--- Day changed Sun Dec 03 2017 00:01 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 00:40 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jajmpmfjkxgpoohe] has joined #lnd 00:44 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [] 01:32 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 01:49 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 01:51 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:03 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:24 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-046-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 02:54 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:10 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 03:23 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 03:54 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:09 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-046-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:10 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@080-250-079-220-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 04:13 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:29 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:30 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 05:57 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 06:16 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [] 06:24 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hgugcdpnahfpclsc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:27 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 07:02 < sovjet> i read a few pages, but i am sure i dont know shit 07:03 < mlz> it's easier to understand if you install the lnd software and play with it 07:03 < sovjet> this ln thing will help at scalability problem btc has 07:06 < sovjet> i somehow understand the explanation with 2 persons, but it must be the network that is the real thing 07:07 < cluelessperson> I read there are three lightning categories 07:08 < mlz> cluelessperson, categories? 07:08 < mlz> you mean implementations? 07:09 < cluelessperson> yes 07:09 < mlz> there're more than 3 but i think we're focusing on the 3 to get them interoperable with each other 07:09 < cluelessperson> Where can I learn about them? 07:09 < mlz> cluelessperson, i never could get you to bother with lnd :/ 07:09 < cluelessperson> mlz: Yes 07:09 < cluelessperson> mlz: YET 07:09 < cluelessperson> mlz: now aht? 07:10 < cluelessperson> mlz: I havne't bothered specifically because what you've recommended runs in freaking "Go" 07:11 < mlz> that's the problem, so it's a waste of time to try then? 07:11 < mlz> lnd is written in go and you think it's "freaking" 07:11 < cluelessperson> mlz: I'm avoiding installing random things on my server 07:11 < mlz> then why are you here? :p 07:12 < cluelessperson> I try to more tightly control my environments. 07:12 < mlz> cluelessperson, listen, LND is written in Go 07:12 < cluelessperson> mlz: Because I want to run lightning without having to install Go 07:12 < mlz> cluelessperson, go to c-lightning channel 07:12 * cluelessperson is probably going setup a VM for it 07:19 -!- interestedUser [4e9dcf8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.157.207.143] has joined #lnd 08:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:12 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:13 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:26 < richard87> Hi guys! Is it possible for a 3rd party, to fund a channel on behalf of different user? 08:27 < richard87> (what if they are directly in connection with each other, and if they need to go via different routes) 08:44 < cluelessperson> so I setup a VM for lnd testing 08:58 < B0g4r7_> You'll need btcd first, I think. 08:58 < B0g4r7_> The roasbeef fork of btcd, that is. 09:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 09:20 -!- interestedUser [4e9dcf8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.157.207.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:28 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 11:12 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:13 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:19 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:39 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:40 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.121.70.79] has joined #lnd 12:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 12:48 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.121.70.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:54 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 12:57 <@roasbeef> something that may not be immedately obvious now: channels no longer insta propagate, we only had the batch flush setting low before for the sake of integration tests, they'yre now set to a proper default outaide of th tests, so may takes a few mins for new channels to propagate depending on how far you are away from the epcienter 12:58 <@roasbeef> richard87: we called the "side-car channels", if I'm interpretting your question properly 12:58 <@roasbeef> so this is the case of intro-ing someone to bitcoin, but directly on LN, you'd fund a channel sidecar style, then hand it off to a diff node on the network who advertised the proper bit to run the protoocl 12:58 <@roasbeef> this way they gain a high availability channel 12:59 <@roasbeef> windsok: UnknownNextPeer means the next peer in the line just wasn't online 13:02 <@roasbeef> the error shown back at the command line is just the *last* error shown, not neccerilsy the primary error 13:02 <@roasbeef> the channel from y'alls to the faucet was such that it could've receive, re-balancing it now (poor mans rebalance) 13:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 13:22 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.121.70.79] has joined #lnd 13:31 < windsok> thanks roasbeef. Is there a debug mode or something to see all the errors, not just the last one? 13:31 < windsok> ah yes debuglevel=debug 13:38 -!- icechip [~i@user-94-254-149-187.play-internet.pl] has quit [Quit: bye] 13:39 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 14:03 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyjsuzlizahzqoss] has joined #lnd 14:07 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 14:09 -!- takinbo [~takinbo@unaffiliated/takinbo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:19 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 14:42 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 14:44 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:59 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 15:02 -!- blyat [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 15:57 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:58 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 16:13 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14 -!- mnkk___ [~mnk4@ip5f5bf13b.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [] 16:35 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #446: channeldb: fix channel_test scoping error (master...ml/442) https://git.io/vbtQE 16:48 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbOy7 16:48 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master a234e01 Nalin Bhardwaj: lnrpc+proto: Modify WalletBalance to include detailed balance info 16:48 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master eb13be9 Nalin Bhardwaj: tests: Modify to handle changes to WalletBalance response 16:48 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 965fcf5 Nalin Bhardwaj: docs: Modify example WalletBalance responses 16:54 <@roasbeef> master will now show confirmed+unconfirmed in walletbalance 17:00 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 17:04 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 17:04 < lndbot1> nooooice 17:04 < lndbot1> whoaaaa 17:06 < lndbot1> how about list chain tx? 17:06 < lndbot1> can we also have something like what mably said, if we choose: `lncli sendcoins addr --sendall --sat_per_byte=30` it will send all coins in the wallet and take the fee out of the amount, so we don't have make so many txs to transfer coins from lnd wallet to another wallet? 17:07 < lndbot1> I need to fix my notifications code, I keep getting “you have received $1000” as mac notifications as autopilot opens new channels :slightly_smiling_face: 17:07 <@roasbeef> what about list chain tx? 17:07 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:07 < lndbot1> it doesn’t show unconfirmed afaik 17:07 <@roasbeef> pretty sure it does 17:08 <@roasbeef> the field name in the proto has changed btw (for wallet balance) 17:08 <@roasbeef> moli: you can just manually set a low fee which'll prob go thru 17:10 < lndbot1> I’m not seeing unconfirmed in listchaintxns 17:10 < lndbot1> It does broadcast it though 17:12 < lndbot1> mably also had an interesting idea where you would like to shut down autopilot with the sendall - if you close channels with the intent of moving all funds out autopilot might not realize it and try to help by starting new channels 17:13 < lndbot1> yea i have to restart lnd with no --externalip 17:35 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 17:45 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jajmpmfjkxgpoohe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:03 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oyjsuzlizahzqoss] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:10 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 18:31 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 19:06 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 19:09 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:12 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:25 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 19:45 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:00 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 20:12 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:21 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 20:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 20:22 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 20:23 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 20:29 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 20:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 21:10 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 21:18 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:03 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:28 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 22:30 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:47 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 23:23 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:39 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pnxbawoshzwesjrl] has joined #lnd 23:44 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44 -!- arubi_ [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 23:52 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bpvmxtpvrnlgfevw] has joined #lnd