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Someone had a visualisation of it though... duno if the links is available somewhere 09:45 < MaxSan> Looks like the tests are going out on to mainnet now 09:45 < MaxSan> cluelessperson: https://twitter.com/lightning 09:46 < Sentineo> but that is an atomic swap, right? 09:46 < MaxSan> no? 09:46 < MaxSan> its a multihop payment 09:46 < MaxSan> between the three different clients 09:46 < MaxSan> the new demo ^^ 09:46 -!- Cod3R [c321daa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.33.218.166] has joined #lnd 09:53 < Sentineo> ah ok 09:54 < Sentineo> not really sure what the difference is between a lighning swap and an atomic swap 10:03 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:07 < Cod3R> hi 10:11 -!- Cod3R [c321daa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.33.218.166] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 10:25 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:26 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:27 < mlz> Lightning integration test results: https://twitter.com/Snyke/status/938453747897946112 10:30 < mlz> "Announcing the first-ever interoperable Lightning transactions using real bitcoin with @acinq_co @blockstream! We bought a Starblocks coffee ☕️ and a http://yalls.org article 📰. https://medium.com/@lightning_network/lightning-protocol-1-0-compatibility-achieved-f9d22b7b19c4" https://twitter.com/lightning/status/938453165967515648 10:32 < cluelessperson> So, I have a question. In order for lightning to work, does lightning include all the signatures in the form of a segwit transaction? 10:32 < cluelessperson> OR, do you have to send bitcoin to a lightning channel in bitcoin first? 10:33 < cluelessperson> and the lightning channel uses one segwit transaction with one set of signatures? 10:43 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:44 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 10:47 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 10:53 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 11:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:12 -!- yoink [~yoink@unaffiliated/yoink] has joined #lnd 11:14 -!- richard87 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photonclock> I assume syncing must complete before I can get down to business ;-) 15:55 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:03 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mddjhpvaoczcfxtm] has joined #lnd 16:08 < aakselrod> that's correct, photonclock 16:08 -!- rhavar_ [uid237883@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxshqsbsyevuqzxd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:11 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fqeeoajuupuedfwh] has joined #lnd 16:11 -!- cjd[m] [cdelisle1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-barulumfkwbarpol] has joined #lnd 16:17 < photonclock> syncing is progressing - I guess it’s going to take a while. Got about 465MB so far 16:18 < photonclock> what’s the substantive difference between a “lightning hub” and any particular user that has several channels open? 16:18 < photonclock> is there a meaningful distinction? 16:19 < aakselrod> there's no concept of a "hub" but it's recommended to open the lnd port if you want to forward payments for others so they can connect to you 16:20 < aakselrod> eventually we'll have better automated support for that - upnp, tor hidden services, etc. 16:20 < aakselrod> if you have several channels open but all of the money is allocated to you, then no one can send money TO you and thus THROUGH you 16:21 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:22 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 16:23 -!- Sentineo [~Undefined@unaffiliated/sentineo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:40 < photonclock> I see traffic on ports 18333 and 9735 16:40 < photonclock> 9735 needs to be open to inbound? 16:46 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:47 -!- ianthius [~ianthius@unaffiliated/ianthius] has joined #lnd 16:48 < ianthius> roasbeef: Thanks so much for the video today man. It really made my day seeing this on youtube. Is there another LN channel that is not implemenation specifc? 16:52 < MaxSan> LN channel and the implementation are different things 16:53 < MaxSan> LN channel is a connection between two nodes 16:54 < MaxSan> the protocol which is developed is shared between the main current clients which can be found at https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/00-introduction.md 16:54 < MaxSan> its much more flexible than consensus on bitcoin so creating a "private channel" with a different ruleset is actually part of the consideration in its development 16:55 < ianthius> MaxSan: I actually meant IRC channel. Is there a LN IRC channel besides this one? I wasn't sure if this IRC channel was specific to the implemenataion of LN that roasbeef works on 16:55 < MaxSan> oh ha 16:55 < MaxSan> my bad 16:55 < MaxSan> lightning-dev i think 16:55 < ianthius> no worries 16:56 < MaxSan> it focuses more on c-lightning i think 16:58 < ianthius> that's the blockstream implementation? 17:00 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 17:13 < MaxSan> yes it is ianthius 17:13 < MaxSan> im not sure about ACINQ 17:21 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #460: Update INSTALL.md (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vbCl6 17:28 <@roasbeef> ianthius: #lightning-dev is general ln dev stuff 17:31 < photonclock> which port needs to be open for inbound ? 17:32 < photonclock> syncing doesn’t seem to be progressing much beyond 466MB but my LN wallet shows an active balance with the testnet faucet deposit - 3 different CID numbers 17:34 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #457: multi: fix reliable re-processing+re-transmission of FundingLocked factoring in ChannelReestabilshment (master...funding-locked-fix) https://git.io/vbn3D 17:48 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lnghmimkpwlqblsn] has quit [] 17:48 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tdpkihraknyfzitt] has joined #lnd 17:49 -!- meshcollider is now known as mesh_ 17:55 < aakselrod> photonclock: it's a light client, it shouldn't get as big as the entire blockchain. if you have CID numbers active, you have channels. 17:55 < aakselrod> 9735 only needs to be allowed inbound if you want other people to connect to you and create channels so they can forward through you. 17:56 < photonclock> yeah I wanna try stuff ! ;-) 17:57 < photonclock> you say I have channels - I see those. But I thought I had to send BTC to open a channel? 17:57 < Styil> Someone has to contribute BTC to open a channel 17:57 < Styil> if not them then you 17:57 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmhoazmpbqsocmdk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:57 < photonclock> Ok I opened a channel on this URI 03933884aaf1d6b108397e5efe5c86bcf2d8ca8d2f700eda99db9214fc2712b134@endurance.acinq.co:9735 17:58 < photonclock> I have 3 CID’s and two that are status “opening” pending-open 17:58 -!- meshcollider_ [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tdpkihraknyfzitt] has quit [] 17:58 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozgzxpxdpmrojxkf] has joined #lnd 17:59 < photonclock> sent a payment of 1500 to starblocks cart - failed 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:06.330 [INF] RPCS: [sendcoins] addr=lightning:lntb15u1pdz3gzypp567l4leqcew2kcav7qqs9kacrfangx9u73pcl2vhw9dk6x5exr5ssdq4xysyymr0vd4kzcmrd9hx7enqkepqwqjvs9py76dlu9cfkpsxtraf4hyf0g3yadqpc32w60hpkaks2u3hrfcwgqxacg20se77nfg5a8l0eezjqrnmudvazgepa3zsqr8zzqz, amt=0.000015 BTC, sat/byte=50 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:18.250 [INF] RPCS: [listchannels] fetched 5 channels from DB 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:18.944 [ERR] HSWC: unable to find links by destination unable to locate channel link bydestination hop id 02a35187c5a71676da4930d93faaf30f6d5e19e3bbe8f3ead400b898967e1dc475 18:00 <@roasbeef> seems they updated their fees but didn't send out an update announcement 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:18.944 [ERR] CRTR: Attempt to send payment d7bf5fe418cb956c759e00205b77034f6683179e8871f532ee2b6da353261d21 failed: UnknownNextPeer 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:19.159 [ERR] HSWC: unable to find links by destination unable to locate channel link bydestination hop id 02f6d66509f7ef98d9470ab5dc3998f8785112c545f86e50b9811772a9166f99dc 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:19.159 [ERR] CRTR: Attempt to send payment d7bf5fe418cb956c759e00205b77034f6683179e8871f532ee2b6da353261d21 failed: UnknownNextPeer 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:19.362 [ERR] HSWC: unable to find links by destination unable to locate channel link bydestination hop id 02531c51256c7539a4804e3870d4ec81859e7e452039b663f268d508634fdfe25a 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:19.362 [ERR] CRTR: Attempt to send payment d7bf5fe418cb956c759e00205b77034f6683179e8871f532ee2b6da353261d21 failed: UnknownNextPeer 18:00 < photonclock> 2017-12-06 17:59:38.251 [INF] RPCS: [listchannels] fetched 5 channels from DB 18:00 < photonclock> 18:00 <@roasbeef> i've had issues paying to their testnet node lately, not sure if it's active 18:00 < photonclock> ok how do I open a channel to YOU 18:03 < photonclock> If I provde my pubkey someone can open a channel with me? 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22:11 < cluelessperson> I have a VM set up for lightning and all to test. :) 22:14 < mlz> no 22:16 < mlz> it's explained here: https://medium.com/@lightning_network/lightning-protocol-1-0-compatibility-achieved-f9d22b7b19c4 22:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:25 < cluelessperson> mlz: thanks, sorry for the annoyance. 22:47 -!- booyah_ is now known as booyah 22:58 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mssqmlrrmazaprfp] has joined #lnd 23:10 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:15 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 23:18 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:19 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd55d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 23:19 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:35 -!- mo_ [63628041@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.98.128.65] has joined #lnd 23:40 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd