--- Day changed Wed Dec 20 2017 00:03 -!- FBP [4da13f33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.161.63.51] has joined #lnd 00:21 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:22 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 00:27 -!- FBP [4da13f33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.161.63.51] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:27 < devachandra> roasbeef: today initial channel openening transaction have lots of confirmations. i created new payment request and sent to my friend, but problem still persists: "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination". 00:29 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:30 -!- yoctopede [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 00:30 < devachandra> when i am trying to send payment, lnd outputs this message: [DBG] CRTR: Mission Control returning prune view of 0 edges, 0 vertexes 00:45 -!- icechip [~i@user-94-254-151-41.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:49 < devachandra> when my friend running lncli listchannels, there is active: false in his output, maybe that's the issue 00:54 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bsjyxkazjwgzecok] has joined #lnd 01:00 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 01:00 -!- yoctopede is now known as intcat 01:07 < devachandra> how to activate channel? it's strange, because mine is active, his is not. we opened channels almost the same time yesterday 01:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 01:18 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@BSN-77-87-226.static.siol.net] has joined #lnd 01:25 -!- brandon967 [b9160e36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.22.14.54] has joined #lnd 01:28 < brandon967> hey everbody, what's the address or way to donate to Lightning Network development? 01:31 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-winttpqgshlxwsjd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:31 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:32 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 01:55 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:57 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@BSN-77-87-226.static.siol.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:12 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 02:14 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:18 -!- creslin [~textual@46.164.128.194] has joined #lnd 02:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 02:29 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 02:31 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:31 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 02:35 < lightningbot4> devachandra: the peer on the other end of the channel must be online, if not the channel will be inactive until it comes back 02:35 < lightningbot4> rawphunky: take a look at the issues in the github repo :slightly_smiling_face: 02:38 < devachandra> johan: remote node is lightning faucet node, so it must be online all the time. does faucet node route payments at all? 02:39 < lightningbot4> yeah, should be active 02:39 < lightningbot4> can you ping it? 02:42 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:42 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 02:42 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:43 < devachandra> johan: from my side channel was active, it was not from my friends side and he's now away, but he claimed that fauced node was in peers list 02:44 < devachandra> does anybody have open active channel with faucet node? 02:44 < snadge> this is the dumbest question ever.. but i've been drinking.. and i have a few bitcoins i want to sell so i can buy my son a christmas present :p 02:46 < snadge> i was basically wondering what the status of support for lightning in core was.. i guess we were all kind of hoping that we'd be further along where things are by now 02:48 < snadge> i fully expect the value of btc to keep going up, and i guess like a lot of people, im guessing that lnd is going to alleviate the current transaction problem somewhat.. which would likely have a further positive influence on its value 02:49 < snadge> and alleviate some of the games we're seeing being place with BCH.. and movement between them 02:53 < stevenroose> Lol,didn't know writing to stdout froze when scrolling in tmux 02:53 < stevenroose> it actually makes the rpc freeze as well 03:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 03:12 -!- LiveJay [36f0c621@gateway/web/freenode/ip.54.240.198.33] has joined #lnd 03:13 -!- LiveJay [36f0c621@gateway/web/freenode/ip.54.240.198.33] has quit [Client Quit] 03:15 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:16 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 03:27 -!- creslin [~textual@46.164.128.194] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 03:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axjzpfiqllxcpxoz] has joined #lnd 03:32 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 03:32 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@185.73.88.133] has joined #lnd 03:41 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 03:41 < SopaXorzTaker> What will I need to host an LN node? 03:41 < SopaXorzTaker> (storage, etc) 03:42 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 03:47 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:58 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:09 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 04:09 -!- Styil [~Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 04:18 -!- jigawatt [4b88a91f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.136.169.31] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:20 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 04:27 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:28 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 04:31 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:44 -!- brandon967 [b9160e36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.22.14.54] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:46 < Rozal> Can anyone asset questions avoid LN? 04:46 < Rozal> Can anyone answer my above question regarding amount of inputs and fees? 05:21 < Sentineo> not really sure what the question is 05:21 < Sentineo> but am no ln expert, so it does not matter :) 05:25 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 05:29 -!- Spark_ [58990704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.153.7.4] has joined #lnd 05:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:30 -!- Spark_ [58990704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.153.7.4] has quit [Client Quit] 05:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 05:54 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:57 <@molz> Rozal, have you installed LND yet? 06:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 06:03 < Rozal> I have a bit ago 06:03 < Rozal> 11:11 PM If the fee is per byte of data, and hundreds of participants would require hundreds of inputs to register those participants' coins. Would a multi hop really lower fees? 06:05 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fueumphnkcmpzvdf] has joined #lnd 06:08 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 06:10 < Rozal> The only reason I ask is because of debate I got into - simply seek more information 06:11 <@molz> Rozal, i'm not sure i understand the question nor do I know how that works 06:12 <@molz> and tbf with you, don't waste your time on "debates", i'd rather spend my time helping LN with testing and trying to learn this system for myself 06:12 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-axjzpfiqllxcpxoz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:12 < Rozal> LN works to help with scaling by splitting the fee among the different ‘hop’ or transactions in the channel 06:13 < Rozal> I’ve tried LN. It’s great. I just am curious to see how it works with scaling, and I can educate others 06:13 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 06:19 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bsjyxkazjwgzecok] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:29 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 06:32 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 06:40 < Sentineo> Rozal: educating is important, but be sure the other purson is willing to learn :) So what do you mean by would multihop really lower fees? 07:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05 <@molz> multihops can save fees by you not opening another channel or two, which means you save money in tx fees 07:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 07:11 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 07:15 < Sentineo> how does paying to hops happen? they take some amount out of the forwarded tx? 07:21 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 07:33 < stevenroose> SopaXorzTaker: very little 07:34 < SopaXorzTaker> stevenroose, elaborate 07:34 < SopaXorzTaker> how much HDD, etc? 07:35 < stevenroose> I had a node with ~10 peers and 120 channels on the smallest instance of my provider. Like a single core, 1 GiB 07:36 < stevenroose> My disk has 3.7 GB in use. That's with CentOS 7 07:36 < stevenroose> The lnd data folder is 210M 07:37 < stevenroose> SopaXorzTaker: it's really small. However, keep in mind that this is with a separate full node machine. 07:38 < stevenroose> If you run lnd with the neutrino light client, your footprint will be larger. Can't tell you how much larger, should still be very reasonable. 07:38 < stevenroose> --- 07:39 < stevenroose> Unrelated question: Currently, all non-wallet data is in channel.db, right? That means also the peers etc. So to update for the breaking db chance, I have to delete channel.db and lose the peers, I guess. 07:44 < SopaXorzTaker> stevenroose, but it requires a synced bitcoind, doesn't it 07:45 < stevenroose> It doesn't. You have two options: 1) run a separate full node (btcd or bitcoind in the future) or 2) use the built-in light client 07:45 < stevenroose> In the first case, yes you need a full btcd/bitcoind node with the entire blockchain. 07:45 < stevenroose> In the second case, you don't need anything else than lnd and it will use a built-in secure light client called Neutrino. 07:45 < stevenroose> Do lnd --help to see how to configure neutrino 07:49 < stevenroose> Rozal | LN works to help with scaling by splitting the fee among the different ‘hop’ or transactions in the channel 07:49 < stevenroose> That's not true. LN helps with scaling because individual transactions don't have a footprint on the blockchain, but are only processed by the nodes in the "payment path" from the sender to the receiver. 07:50 < stevenroose> This means that individual payments don't have to pay a mining fee at all. 07:50 < stevenroose> The fee you pay is to the intermediate nodes that are part of your "payment path", because they provide you with their channel liquidity to help make your payment. 07:51 < stevenroose> If Alice wants to pay Bob through the path A -> C -> D -> B, than she has to pay C and D because they help reach B(ob) 07:51 < stevenroose> C and D don't have an inherit cost to participating in the payment, so they can offer a very low fee of only a few satoshis. 07:52 < stevenroose> If there is another path A -> X -> Y -> B and the fees from C + D are higher than the fees from X + Y, than you will just use X + Y 07:54 < Rozal> stevenroose: don’t individual transactions still have inputs? 07:54 < Rozal> Within the channel? 07:55 < Rozal> So if there is multiple hops, or multiple transactions - there should be a fee associated with the tax weight 07:55 < Rozal> Tx* 07:55 < stevenroose> Rozal: within channels, payments aren't a real thing, there is no transaction in the traditional sense like in bitcoin with inputs and outputs 07:55 < stevenroose> give me a sec, need to do something here 07:55 < Rozal> Is it true that large channels with more tx would have a higher fee than a 1 transaction channel? 07:56 < Rozal> Gotcha 07:59 < Rozal> Thanks a ton, I really love learning 08:01 < SopaXorzTaker> stevenroose, so how do I run the light node? 08:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: marwin79 08:02 < devachandra> finally managed to do some multihop payments! it's awesome!!! so fast 08:02 < devachandra> anybody knows how to list incoming payments with lncli? 08:04 < lndbot1> lncli listinvoices 08:05 < devachandra> moli: thx! 08:05 < stevenroose> SopaXorzTaker: lnd --help, there is a section on neutrino 08:06 < stevenroose> Rozal: so there is no relation whatsoever between lightning payments and the number of hops/fees in them and bitcoin payments 08:06 < stevenroose> shit, srry I'm at work and I'm getting bothered :D 08:07 < SopaXorzTaker> stevenroose, can you link to a tutorial? 08:07 < SopaXorzTaker> I have this cute little odroid-xu 08:07 < SopaXorzTaker> which would host a node if it's true 08:08 < stevenroose> SopaXorzTaker: this one should work, might be slightly outdated: http://dev.lightning.community/guides/installation/ 08:09 < stevenroose> so, Rozal, think of it like this, its a bit simplified: every channel is actually just a single Bitcoin transaction that is not in the blockchain yet 08:10 < stevenroose> So when A and B have a channel, they have this tx AB that f.e. sends 50 btc to A and 50 btc to B 08:10 < Sentineo> oh wow 08:10 < Sentineo> so lnd and neutrino!? :) will try that! 08:10 < Sentineo> btcd was stoping me mostly :) 08:11 < Sentineo> have 5GB of space, testnet can not sync there 08:12 < stevenroose> When A wants to send 1 btc to B in channel AB, they change the tx AB to send 49 to A and 51 to B, but this tx does not go to the lbockchain yet 08:13 < stevenroose> So if X sends Y over X -> A -> B -> Y, then X, A, B and Y have to update the transctions XA, AB and BY to have new outputs, but none of these transactions are actually broadcast to the blockchain, so no one pays any miner fee 08:14 < stevenroose> Also, these transactions just change to represent the new balances inside the channel, so A gets 1 in XA, B gets 1 in AB and Y gets one in BY. But these changes are totally independent of how long that path is 08:16 < stevenroose> Sentineo: yeah full nodes are heavy beasts. I haven't run lnd with neutrino myself, but it should work fine. If you succeed, please let me know what the data footprint is. 08:16 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:17 < devachandra> Sentineo: im running lnd with neutrino, awesome ) 08:17 -!- jigawatt [4b88a91f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.136.169.31] has joined #lnd 08:17 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:22 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@185.73.88.133] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:23 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:24 < stevenroose> devachandra: out of curiosity, how much data does neutrino store? 08:30 < devachandra> stevenroose: all lnd + neutrino data 440 Mb 08:32 < Sentineo> wow cool! 08:32 -!- marwe [54ca3ff3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.202.63.243] has joined #lnd 08:32 < Sentineo> it is cli, though right? 08:33 < stevenroose> devachandra: assuming s/Mb/MB/, that'd be 200 MB for neutrino (I had 210MB without), that's cool 08:37 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 08:51 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:54 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:56 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [] 08:57 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 09:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:10 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 09:23 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@73.248.248.9] has joined #lnd 09:23 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 -!- moctos [~moctos@cpe-107-9-138-59.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 09:32 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 09:38 < stevenroose> 2 09:38 < stevenroose> nvm 09:39 -!- moctos [~moctos@cpe-107-9-138-59.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39 < Sentineo> wow 09:39 < Sentineo> so much lightning clients 09:39 < Sentineo> imopressed with the choice 10:00 < Rozal> Ok stevenroose 10:01 < Rozal> LN channel with 2 transactions versus one with a millions transactions (and multiple hops) 10:01 < Rozal> They both have the same exact fee, right? 10:01 < Rozal> One is just split much more 10:05 < stevenroose> Are you asking if the bitcoin fee of the channel commitment (Bitcoin) transaction is the same for a channel that has facilitated 2 lightning payments and a channel that has facilitated a million lightning payments? 10:06 < stevenroose> The answer to that is yes. The commitment (bitcoin) tx of a channel has a regular bitcoin fee and that fee does not change when a new lightning payment is made over the channel. 10:06 < stevenroose> "Rozal | One is just split much more": I don't know what you mean with that; nothing is "split" anywhere 10:07 < Rozal> Isn’t the broadcast fee paid among channel participants? Or is it just paid by those closing and opening channels? 10:09 < stevenroose> Rozal: in principle it can be both, shared or payed by the closer. However, since every channel has only 2 participants, that doesn't really matter. 10:10 < stevenroose> When A pays B through A -> X -> Y -> B, the participants in all channels AX, XY, YB stays the same.. 10:10 < Rozal> Wow 10:10 < Rozal> Thank you, moment of clarity 10:11 < stevenroose> Welcome :) it's important for a system to gain traction that users understand and trust it :) 10:12 < Rozal> So let’s say I want to pay you, stevenroose. We both frequent overstock.com to buy stuff using their lightning channel. Overstock=O 10:13 < Rozal> I could send money to you by A->O O->B 10:13 < stevenroose> yes 10:13 < stevenroose> totally correct. note though that there is no such thing as "Overstock's lightning channel", there's two relevant channels in that case 10:13 < stevenroose> AO and OB 10:14 -!- photonclock [~photonclo@47.37.153.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:14 < Rozal> Let’s say LN has matured 20 years. Could in theory, almost send money to anyone? 10:14 -!- photonclock [~photonclo@47.37.153.193] has joined #lnd 10:14 < Rozal> Without opening a direct channel 10:15 < Rozal> It’s safe to say a lot of people use coinbase. If someone had a coinbase channel, I could pay virtually anyone with just a few channels 10:16 < creslin> I get consistent route not found errors when trying to make payment from eclair phone wallet through lnd node on testnet. the channel lists as normal and has plenty of funds 160mbtc. Are there any things I can do to try and debug this. It was working a few days ago. 10:16 < Rozal> Is there an expiration on channels? 10:16 < stevenroose> Rozal: channels don't have to expire, no 10:16 < Rozal> awesome 10:16 < stevenroose> and yes, its possible, or at least we assume/hope it will, that you can pay everyone 10:17 < Rozal> thanks again. This helped a ton 10:17 < stevenroose> it's not sure if it will work like you think it will, with everyone using big "hubs" like coinbase and overstock, since for them to be useful as hubs, they need to have a massive amount of bitcoins in their channels 10:17 < stevenroose> which are "hot wallet" coins and are vulnerable for theft if they get hacked 10:18 < stevenroose> what might happen instead (note that this is all speculation since their has been very limited research on the topic of connectivity in lightning) is that a very highly connected network exists with everyone having ~4 channels with random others 10:19 < stevenroose> as long as the others don't go offline, all of them could have a similar amount of in-channel money 10:19 < stevenroose> when you can't pay someone, you will have to add a channel by finding the best possible guy to connect to or either connecting directly to the person you want to pay 10:19 < creslin> Is that true? I thought the users funds are also tied to their own wallet, any release of funds through a lightning channel needs the user to countersign the transaction -- p0wnind a server with thousands of coins in channels would not give the miscreant any funds 10:20 < stevenroose> creslin: I don't fully get your question.. 10:21 < stevenroose> the problem with big hubs is that a user connected to a hub can only accept as much through that hub as the balance in their channel on the side of the hub 10:22 < stevenroose> so if you want to receive 1 btc through coinbase in lightning, coinbase needs to have 1 btc IN ITS CHANNEL WITH YOU 10:22 < creslin> @stevenroose you said big hubs might not be an attractive proposition as they would hold a hight number of coins in channels and would be a target for hackers. I thought to steal a coin from a channel still needs the end user to to sign and agree the funds are released - so hacking a channel server gives the hacker nothing without also owning the users lightning wallet on their phone/desktop in tandem 10:23 < stevenroose> creslin: I think we're talking about two different things there. I'm not talking about coinbase being the lightning wallet provider for users. 10:23 < stevenroose> replace coinbase with starbucks, f.e. 10:23 < stevenroose> to understand my point 10:24 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fueumphnkcmpzvdf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:25 < stevenroose> let's say everyone wants to pay starbucks for their coffee, in the case where everyone would open a channel with coinbase, that's useful for the users ot pay for coffee, but they will not be able to receive more then the total amount they every payed starbucks. 10:26 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:30 < creslin> Im extremely new to lnd - so there are huge holes in my understanding. But i did not thing that was the way it works. I thought funds from my wallet are in a channel between my wallet my lnd node of choice - be it coinbase or bobs-house-node (lets use bobs-node) etc - when a i buy a coffee i get a request, i accept it QR code etc, and i authorise my channel to release the funds - this gets routed over lnd network to starbucks. Are you 10:30 < creslin> saying unless lnd bob-node also has to have a separate set of funds to cover my transaction? I.e i pay bob, bob pays starbucks?? 10:32 < creslin> I think I need a decent / laymans readme on how lighntning mechanics actually work - can anyone recommend a resource ? 10:35 < stevenroose> creslin: you're right there 10:35 < stevenroose> A -> B -> S 10:35 < stevenroose> if you want to send 10 bits, you need to have 10 bits in AB and Bob needs to have 10 bits in BS 10:37 < stevenroose> So let's say before: A(100)--(100)B(100)--(100)S and after A(90)--(110)B(90)--S(110) so bob keeps 200 in total, just differently allocated over his channels 10:38 < stevenroose> So let's say A and B both open a channel with 100 bits with Starbucks becuase they like it, you get A(100)--(0)S(0)--(100)B with 10:38 < stevenroose> Alice can't send to Bob because Starbucks doesn't have money on the channel 10:38 -!- EmperorSeptim [uid265175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-epejfbgjhzwocjds] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:39 < stevenroose> When Bob pays 10 bits to Starbucks for his coffee, it becomes A(100)--(0)S(10)--(90)B and from that point, Alice can send 10 to Bob through Starbucks 10:56 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:57 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 < creslin> @stevenroose thanks - i just read this "https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/43700/how-does-the-lightning-network-work-in-simple-terms" on reddit which also describes what you said. 11:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:04 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 11:08 < creslin> does a "mid-chain" / "hub" node, who routes in only direction predominantly have to eventually tear downs its channels from left/right to consolidate its funds and recreate them again have even money in each hand / channel. 11:11 < creslin> as in: 11:11 < creslin> A<1.0 - 1.0>B<1.0 - 1.0>C 11:11 < creslin> A<0.5 - 1.5>B<0.5 - 1.5>C 11:11 < creslin> A<0.0 - 2.0>B<0.0 - 2.0>C 11:11 < creslin> What does B do now? 11:13 < stevenroose> creslin: depends 11:14 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:14 < stevenroose> in principle, considering that A and C have the same kind of connectivity with other nodes (they both have an equal number of other channels with equivalent balances), he doesn't care at all 11:14 < stevenroose> he can still receive through C and send through A 11:15 < stevenroose> of course, then A does not have any useful outgoing channels and B never intends to pay A directly, he will want to close the channel 11:15 < stevenroose> the channel with C doesn't cost him anything (his balance is 0), so there's no reason for him to care about the channel with C 11:16 < stevenroose> (note that channel balances never actually reach 0, but keep a tiny minimum reserve amount to desincentivize nodes from trying to cheat without having anything to lose) 11:17 < stevenroose> (to clarify that: if B's balance is 0 with C, the best option for him is to try and close the channel with an old state in which he did get money and hope that C is not online and won't contest his closing.) 11:17 < stevenroose> (when you close a channel with a wrong transaction and the other party catches you, you lose everything you have in the channel, so the minimum reserve you need to have is the amount you will lose when you cheat) 11:18 < stevenroose> anyway, gonna go home, and will prob only be back tomorrow, but feel free to ask, I'm on a bouncer so will read tomorrow 11:18 < creslin> great - thanks. 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FREENODEhjbwaqy: ha 20:03 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEsfhzykw: cryptosoap Styil jopela raucao haar intcat Giszmo gh 20:03 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEqtnqtnyps: ghost43 aakselrod ar 20:03 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLE 20:03 -!- 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SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLE 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLA 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEpgtpbmoy: raucao jopela Styil intcat haar cryptosoap ghost43 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEramrqeibvq: jopela intcat arubi Giszmo haar cryptos 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEqgwifvgnba: thrasher` raucao cryptosoap G 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEtkdsqd: int 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEqtymjcrto: thrasher` Giszmo ghost43 intcat Styil cryptosoap arubi aakse 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLA 20:04 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEfgewtose: ghost43 Sty 20:04 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 20:04 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:04 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODExlngbqokw: thrasher` haar Styil ghost43 cryptosoap intcat aak 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEkmzqsdmw: aakselrod Giszmo Styi 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEawdcnmyv: arubi crypt 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEphpcjacmx: raucao haar jopela arubi aakselrod Giszm 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEulyuflazz: haar cryptosoap aakselrod Gisz 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLE 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLA 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEtkrpvmxna: aakselrod intcat gho 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:05 < aakselrod> i ignored it; suggest y'all do the same. 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEmgsqtu: jopela Styil arubi aakselrod haar 20:05 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLA 20:06 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND 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WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEpzqdmwd: jopela Styil ghost43 thrasher` aakselrod i 20:06 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEsncfugtloi: jopela ghost43 arubi aakselrod thrasher` haar Giszmo raucao 20:06 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLA 20:06 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew 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FREENODEuywxkoe: Giszmo ghost43 cryptosoap jopela aakselrod arubi raucao intcat 20:09 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEf 20:09 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEohpno: jopela cryptos 20:09 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:09 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEwnslgdt: Giszmo ghost43 aakselrod cryptosoap Styil raucao aru 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEhxlxzw: intcat jopela ghost43 cryptosoap aakselrod thrasher` Giszmo Sty 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE 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FREENODEgfefqqgrzn: raucao aakselrod cryptosoap ghost43 intcat jopela 20:10 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:10 -!- mode/#lnd [+r] by molz 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEopkaqhlxsl: aakselrod arubi Gis 20:10 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLE 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLE 20:10 -!- zen513 was kicked from #lnd by molz [zen513] 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEfiucokfxn: ghost43 raucao cryptosoap intc 20:10 < aakselrod> thanks molz :> 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEiamkygjwgw: 20:10 <@molz> sorry 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEn 20:10 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN FREENODEhdkzqjh: haar raucao arubi ghost43 intcat Giszmo Styil cryptosoap thras 20:11 < zen513> ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10308021/filing-history christel sold freenode to Private Internet Access Andrew Lee WHO ALSO OWNS SNOONET AND IS MOVING FREENODE TO THAT SERVER (NEXT MONTH) AND CLOSING DOWN OPEN SOURCE ROOMS PLEASE COMPLAIN IN CHAN 20:11 -!- mode/#lnd [+m] by 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https://freenode.net/kb/answer/channelmodes 20:32 < aakselrod> on dalnet at least, registering a channel automatically sets a +tn modelock 20:38 <@molz> oh is that it 20:38 -!- mode/#lnd [+n] by molz 20:38 -!- mode/#lnd [-n] by ChanServ 20:38 <@molz> wut 20:44 < aakselrod> heh chanserv modelocked this channel to +tz only 20:45 <@molz> hm i guess roasbeef set it like that so gitbot can do the work? 20:45 < aakselrod> oh good point, maybe so 20:45 < aakselrod> but there are other ways to do that 20:57 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 21:00 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:06 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:09 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 21:11 -!- takinbo_ [~takinbo@unaffiliated/takinbo] has joined #lnd 21:13 -!- takinbo [~takinbo@unaffiliated/takinbo] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:13 -!- takinbo_ is now known as takinbo 21:14 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That's for being reckless, I guess... 21:54 < Veggen> nable to fetch chan info: invalid magic in compressed pubkey string: 100 21:54 < Veggen> eh, unable 21:54 < Veggen> upgraded to latest git :) 21:57 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 21:59 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lnd 22:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:12 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 22:15 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:20 -!- MaxSan1 [~user@46.19.137.116] has joined #lnd 22:27 -!- dymurray [dymurray@nat/redhat/x-wtymmpcegquiyqgd] has joined #lnd 22:27 -!- Deadhand [~deadhand@CPE6038e0be3871-CMf0f249a14e40.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:28 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:29 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 22:29 -!- Deadhand [~deadhand@CPE6038e0be3871-CMf0f249a14e40.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #lnd 22:31 <@roasbeef> fkn hell spmmers came back? 22:31 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nslctfukrorvdhuh] has joined #lnd 22:31 -!- ThisAsYou [sid214210@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-knepfrppkqohscyt] has joined #lnd 22:31 -!- provoostenator [~vwDZ2BYsc@2a05:d014:5f:e100:fd30:8af7:2d6a:cbb1] has joined #lnd 22:31 -!- fronti [~fronti@irc.fh-biergarten.de] has joined #lnd 22:31 -!- Rozal [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpxljuzlgwrepjyc] has joined #lnd 22:32 -!- mode/#lnd [+o aakselrod] by roasbeef 22:32 -!- mode/#lnd [+o chjj] by roasbeef 23:12 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:19 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:22 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef opened pull request #507: htlcswitch: fix alignment of the packetQueue's fields for 32-bit systems (master...fix-queue-align) https://git.io/vby0U 23:22 <@roasbeef> to the peeps that had that panic issue on 32 bit systems, can y'all test that PR ^ 23:22 <@roasbeef> thx 23:24 -!- fronti [~fronti@irc.fh-biergarten.de] has joined #lnd 23:24 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rufmykjnsswvdmkm] has joined #lnd 23:25 -!- ThisAsYou [sid214210@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zsjwiiwaqzsylvtm] has joined #lnd 23:25 -!- Rozal [uid50160@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cuknvsokfnkkpbzv] has joined #lnd 23:25 -!- Rozal is now known as Guest32730 23:25 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:26 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:28 -!- provoostenator [~vwDZ2BYsc@2a05:d014:5f:e100:fd30:8af7:2d6a:cbb1] has joined #lnd 23:58 -!- jigawatt [4b88a91f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.136.169.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]