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02:49 < creslin> If you say 'lnd' backwards it sounds exactly like "Merry Christmas Everybody", or close enough, merry christmas everybody 
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03:08 < Veggen> hrm...
03:08 < Veggen> I have a pending LN channel with blocks_till_open=-162.
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03:48 < drexl> roasbeef should I install your fork of btcd instead of the original ?
03:49 <@roasbeef> drexl: yep it's in the installation instructions 
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04:22 < Veggen> roasbeef - is there any reason a pending channel could be stuck?
04:23 < Veggen>             "blocks_till_open": -167,
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07:13 < provoostenator> eck: I started syncing btcd on mainnet about two weeks ago to get a head start for whenever the beta starts... :-)
07:13 < provoostenator> It's doing about 5 blocks a minute now around height 480K.
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07:26 <@molz> yea it took me about 7 days for my btcd node to fully sync on a VPS 
07:26 <@molz> i have two LND nodes running with Bitcoind now using this patch:  https://gist.github.com/aakselrod/5644b9319041a796ba6ffca28062376e
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07:30 < cengaver> hello guys, i believe current implementation of LND uses gossip protocol as routing. Can any of you guys confirm this?
07:35 <@molz> cengaver, you can read the spec here:  https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/
07:36 <@molz> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd#lightning-network-specification-compliance
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07:38 < cengaver> thank you molz, i will
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12:09 < drexl> where can I find some nodes to open a channel ?
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12:46 <@molz> drexl, https://paste.ee/p/eWATq#yqQGlCtQZHMTPOiKdDfsx4uThZhOJZ0t
12:46 < drexl> ty     
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14:07 < drexl> hmm is this normal ? "blocks_till_open": -2
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14:16 <@molz> i think roasbeef said he's going to get rid of it
14:18 <@molz> it means your channel should've opened two blocks ago
14:19 <@molz> his comment on slack: "roasbeef [1 day ago] 
14:19 <@molz> negative blocks till open is meaningless, I might just remove that for now since it seems to be confusing people" 
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15:04 < ajunas> wooo got lnd running with btcd server
15:05 < ajunas> now what lol
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15:11 <@molz> haha cool
15:11 <@molz> you got lnd installed?
15:11 <@molz> OH WAIT
15:11 < ajunas> yes!
15:11 <@molz> misread lol
15:11 < ajunas> oh     
15:11 <@molz> now connect to some nodes
15:11 <@molz> https://paste.ee/p/eWATq#yqQGlCtQZHMTPOiKdDfsx4uThZhOJZ0t
15:12 < ajunas> cool ok
15:12 <@molz> connect to yalls.org and pay to read contents :D
15:12 < ajunas> dont know how to use lnd yet
15:12 <@molz> if you need btc test coins, let me know
15:12 <@molz> oh     
15:12 <@molz> do this: lnd newaddress np2wkh
15:12 <@molz> and give me your address
15:13 < ajunas> ok, workin on it, its complaining about rpc credentials, i have RPC auth setup for btcd but not lnd
15:14 <@molz> make sure your btcd is fully synced
15:14 < ajunas> it is
15:14 < ajunas> lol     
15:14 < ajunas> spent 1.5 days syncing
15:14 <@molz> ok how did you start your lnd?
15:14 < ajunas> only to immediately delete the data
15:14 < ajunas> and had to re-sync
15:15 < ajunas> I used the command from the guide: "lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --bitcoin.rpcuser=kek --bitcoin.rpcpass=kek --externalip=X.X.X.X"
15:15 < ajunas> oh     
15:15 < ajunas> i did setup rpc
15:15 < ajunas> lol     
15:16 < ajunas> ok its doin something
15:16 <@molz> with the latest commit you can skip the rpcuser and rpcpass
15:16 < ajunas> complained about lnd.conf no such file or directory and now is paused?
15:16 <@molz> lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --core.active --debuglevel=debug --noencryptwallet 
15:17 <@molz> oops
15:17 <@molz> don't use that
15:17 < ajunas> ok, well i just typed "lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --bitcoin.rpcusedr=[user] --bitcoin.rpcpass=[pass] newaddress np2wkh"
15:17 < ajunas> and its paused or something
15:18 <@molz> lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --noencryptwallet --externalip=xx.xx.xx.xx
15:18 <@molz> that's how i start mine ^^
15:20 <@molz> and then you need to let the lnd node to sync too but it's really fast 
15:20 < ajunas> ah ok
15:21 < ajunas> i dont really understand the bitcoin.active flag?
15:26 <@molz> ajunas, it's because LND also has the backend for litecoin so you have to have that flag
15:27 < ajunas> molz: i think you meant lncli earlier
15:27 < ajunas> thats why mine was frozen
15:27 < ajunas> and ok i see
15:27 < ajunas> i feel like --bitcoin.testnet should be adquit indicator its bitcoin but whatevz
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15:29 < ajunas> sweeeeeet
15:29 < ajunas> it worked
15:29 < ajunas> "lncli newaddress np2wkh"
15:30 < ajunas> 2NCmoUZpvhSisLvXCospUMpjuNCTAoeuU5A
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15:30 <@molz> oh yea, sorry
15:30 <@molz> haha USA at the end
15:31 <@molz> ok 3 tBTC sent
15:32 <@molz> https://testnet.smartbit.com.au/tx/17e439fffc4b69032cda4321285fa522d33c1a61aad0fd1b04ca6e28f141a674
15:34 < ajunas> oh cool, is this like a funding txn ?
15:34 < ajunas> oh no
15:34 < ajunas> ur just sending me coins
15:35 < ajunas> i was studying the lnd smart contract framework but haven't played around with lnd at all yet
15:35 <@molz> i sent coins to your regular wallet
15:35 <@molz> then from there you can open channels and it takes coins from your regular wallet
15:36 <@molz> when this tx has one confirmation you can open a channel
15:37 < ajunas> ok i see
15:37 < ajunas> sweet!!
15:38 <@molz> first off, you can connect to yalls.org as a peer: lncli connect 03c1a21de20ea7468b2c700be821574b1391febcf41fa7eab578ad4fccdcadb890@45.77.115.33
15:38 <@molz> to open a channel: lncli openchannel 03c1a21de20ea7468b2c700be821574b1391febcf41fa7eab578ad4fccdcadb890 16000000 10000
15:39 <@molz> 16000000 is the total funding, 10000 is the push amt, if you don't want to send a push amt you can skip that
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15:57 < ajunas> sweet ill try that in a bit
16:01 <@molz> testnet blocks are slow these days
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16:06 < ajunas> whys that
16:08 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] waltonseymour opened pull request #521: Rename decodepayreq to decodeinvoice (master...decodeinvoice) https://git.io/vb7Fv
16:08 < cloaks> wowowowo didnt know that
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16:14 < ajunas> i just did lncli connect to 2 nodes from the paste.ee link, the 2nd one said "peer_id": 0, shouldn't it be 1 ?
16:19 <@molz> ajunas, it's been like that, not sure why
16:19 < ajunas> ok i did listpeers and i got 3 peers connected, yeah must be a bug
16:19 <@molz> i just learned something... we can set --sat_per_byte for the txs on lnd too
16:20 <@molz> ajunas, i don't think it's a bug
16:20 < ajunas> why not?
16:20 <@molz> you mean you got auto peers?
16:20 < ajunas> no, just wondering why it says peer_id = 0 for each new peer i connect
16:21 <@molz> ah no it's not a bug, i think there's a reason but i dont know
16:21 < ajunas> gotcha
16:21 < ajunas> so connecting to peers is not the same thing as having channels with them i guess
16:21 <@molz> right, for LND node on terminal
16:22 <@molz> but if you run Eclair mobile wallet, you don't need to do "lncli connect..." 
16:22 <@molz> same with lightning-app
16:28 < ajunas> do those connect to a lnd backend ?
16:37 < sdfgsdfg> I heard mainnet is going live with lnd real soon
16:37 < sdfgsdfg> big news coming real soon
16:37 < sdfgsdfg> its sick
16:37 < sdfgsdfg> lnd will be the first implementation, not even blockstream 
16:37 < ajunas> lez do this
16:38 < ajunas> LN > altcoins
16:39 < drexl> I found my node on https://explorer.acinq.co but it says No public IP
16:40 < drexl> can I make it public?
16:40 < lndbot1> <justin> --externalip=xxxxxx
16:40 < lndbot1> <justin> open up port
16:40 < drexl> cheers
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16:52 < ajunas> how do i add an alias to my node?
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16:56 <@molz> i don't think we can yet
16:58 < drexl> hmm I guess the --externalip=xxxxxx trick wont work if I use a vpn right?
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17:01 < ajunas> how come? i see node with aliases in the eclair explorer
17:03 <@molz> oh really
17:04 < ajunas> ok heres a question
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17:05 < ajunas> is it possible to save the channel and wallet state somehow, and upload it onto a different software instance / server and resume all the channel states ?
17:05 < ajunas> like moving the abstract LN node to a different IP node
17:06 <@molz> hm those are probably eclair nodes
17:06 < ajunas> oh really
17:06 < cloaks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgA2RYoSEn0
17:07 <@molz> ajunas, .lnd is the database folder that you can copy and put it on another computer to run
17:07 < ajunas> oh sweet
17:08 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] waltonseymour opened pull request #522: Display help with closechannel (master...closechannel-help) https://git.io/vb7b2
17:10 < ajunas> so you could actually move the .lnd node, but if you took too long then I suppose many of the channels will have been closed out
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17:21 < ajunas> hm can you have multiple instances of the lnd node??
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19:24 < ajunas> alright so im a little confused
19:24 < ajunas> looks like you can only fund the channel yourself when requesting to open a channel, then how could you ever receive money?
19:28 < lndbot1> <justin> you spend first? Or someone opens up a channel with you like and exchange sending you a withdrawal but opening a channel at the same time, depends
19:30 < ajunas> hm     
19:31 < ajunas> am I interpreting the "--push_amt" flag right that it is basically like an initial spending
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22:04 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wilmerpaulino opened pull request #523: bolt11: handle r field fee spec change (master...update-r-field) https://git.io/vb5vJ
22:04 < cloaks> orly
22:19 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] sangaman opened pull request #524: Add detail to setting up PATH (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vb5v4
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23:21 < Rozal> are you guys being sneaky?
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