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ZZZzzz…] 08:44 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has joined #lnd 09:02 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:04 -!- qxt [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has joined #lnd 09:05 < qxt> Did a git pull and updated my code. Think it broke my setup. Anybody else have this happen? 09:06 < haakonn> restarting lnd after about a day. it seems to do a ton of catch-up work; logs lots of "Ignoring update" etc. meanwhile 'lncli payinvoice' just hangs. how long is this supposed to take? 09:06 < qxt> haakonn when I do a sendpayment nothing happens. Same here 09:07 < haakonn> qxt: ok. i also just updated from git (for some reason git did a merge commit in my name, wtf) 09:07 < qxt> yeah same here 09:08 < haakonn> probably some history rewriting going on 09:08 < qxt> roasbeef, lord beef care to help out some poor souls here =) 09:08 <@molz> wut 09:09 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 09:09 <@molz> i updated one node last night, saw nothing unusual 09:10 <@molz> haakonn, how did you update? 09:10 < qxt> git pull in my case 09:10 < haakonn> molz: following the steps in README.md 09:10 < haakonn> git pull is of course one of the steps, yeah 09:10 <@molz> i did git fetch 09:10 <@molz> git checkout origin/master 09:10 < haakonn> fetch happens as part of pull 09:11 < qxt> git pull && glide install 09:11 < qxt> go install . ./cmd/... 09:12 < qxt> if I do a lncli sendpayment --pay_req=xxxxx just hangs now =/ 09:12 <@molz> try: lncli payinvoice 09:12 < qxt> will do 09:14 < haakonn> i'm using payinvoice, and it hangs 09:14 < qxt> molz, same thing. Nothing happens 09:15 <@molz> qxt, did you wipe the old database before the update? 09:15 < qxt> no should I? 09:16 <@molz> yes we have the rule here like roasbeef said, if you didn't then you have to downgrade to the previous commit, close out all channels, wipe the database, then update 09:17 < haakonn> when should we wipe? like every day? 09:17 <@molz> before every update 09:17 < haakonn> that's a bit brutal 09:17 <@molz> we're still in alpha 09:17 <@molz> yes i know haakonn, we've done this for a year now so it's normal to me :P 09:18 < qxt> molz when you say wipe you mean just rm it right? 09:18 < haakonn> so *every* single git commit potentially breaks the db? i mean alpha is fine, but ... wow 09:18 <@molz> and thank God for Linus with his amazing linux system, fast to upgrade anything even when you have to delete your old data 09:18 <@molz> qxt ya 09:19 < qxt> Ill give it a go molz thx. I would think this is going to wipe my pub id etc right? 09:20 < qxt> have like 30 channels open ... 09:24 < qxt> molz, when you say the database do you mean channel.db ? 09:25 < haakonn> i'm now back on the commit from yesterday, when payinvoice worked. and it still hangs 09:29 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:29 <@molz> qxt, the whole .lnd 09:29 < qxt> I lol'd a little but ok =) 09:30 < haakonn> closechannel hangs too :P 09:30 <@molz> qxt, do you see your channels? 09:30 <@molz> qxt, probably you don't need to downgrade, just close out your channels? 09:30 < haakonn> so we're supposed to wipe everything, get new testcoins, start over 09:30 <@molz> and then delete channel.db and upgrade 09:31 <@molz> haakonn, yea that's what i normally do but some people try to keep their pubkey so they only delete the channel.db 09:31 < qxt> ....and slaughter a chicken next to black candle 09:31 <@molz> lol 09:34 < haakonn> ah, it no longer hangs! now i get "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination" 09:39 < haakonn> probably because i succeeded in closing the channel (even if it hung). re-opening 09:57 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:25 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:27 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has joined #lnd 10:33 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:44 < haakonn> new channel is open, but same error. and sometimes "payment_error": "unable to route payment to destination: UnknownNextPeer" 10:49 <@molz> haakonn, which node did you open a channel with? 10:50 < haakonn> same one as yesterday, i just reused the command from shell history :P i believe it was bitrefill 10:51 < haakonn> i updated to HEAD and restarted lnd, going to let it run for a long time and see if that resolves the hanging issues 10:53 -!- wxss [~user@45.248.77.252] has joined #lnd 11:02 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 11:05 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 11:06 -!- yongo [4e23f0ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.35.240.172] has joined #lnd 11:11 -!- yongo [4e23f0ac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.35.240.172] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:13 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 11:35 -!- byt411 [5c392576@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.57.37.118] has joined #lnd 11:35 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 < byt411> hey, im running the lightning desktop app, but can't seem to connect to any nodes nor open any channels 11:36 < byt411> any ideas why? maybe i need to open some port? 11:40 <@molz> is it synced? 11:40 < byt411> yes 11:41 <@molz> do you have some test coins in your wallet? 11:41 < byt411> i did 11:41 < byt411> now ive got a channel thats "pending open" 11:41 < byt411> i used 10k sat for the channel, had 100mil sat 11:42 < byt411> but my balance now shows 0 11:42 <@molz> well the channel is in pending 11:42 <@molz> wait for 3 confirmations 11:43 < byt411> yeah, but why did all my btc go poof tho? 11:43 < byt411> shouldnt only 10k been used for channel? 11:47 < lndbot1> You had 1M sat and sent 10k sat to a channel and 990000 sat to change. That’s pending so you have 0 currently available 11:52 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has joined #lnd 11:55 < haakonn> lnd has run for 1 hour and payinvoice still hangs. may have to bite the bullet and actually wipe my node as adviced. but if that's really something one has to do as a matter of routine, i'm frankly very disappointed 11:57 < lightningbot4> @haakonn: what do the logs say? 11:57 < lightningbot4> when it hangs 11:58 < haakonn> johan: there's something about updating an htlc. a bit hard to copy/paste it because the log file is flooding with debug messages 11:59 < lightningbot4> log for "MissionControl" 11:59 < lightningbot4> *look 12:01 < haakonn> 2018-01-07 21:00:48.556 [DBG] CRTR: Mission Control returning prune view of 0 edges, 0 vertexes 12:01 < haakonn> 2018-01-07 21:00:48.663 [DBG] PEER: Sending UpdateAddHTLC(chan_id=2351fe510dbd601cfb4556fbcab5b4bdbae0a500963542b81e46a5c15d444f0a, id=3, amt=101000 mSAT, expiry=1258053, hash=eeae18b2dc2ebaee7e3e78b17fe9cd534386547cee735f1d4ccb411f89d03c04) to 52.18.61.50:9735 12:01 < zyp> haakonn, you're disappointed that software under development is still under development? 12:02 < haakonn> zyp: i just thought it was a little bit further along :P 12:02 < lightningbot4> do you see more (like never ending) of these? 12:03 < lightningbot4> would be awesome if you could post the details of how you ended up in this state and your logs here: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/536#issuecomment-355820947 12:03 < haakonn> johan: it's just one, every time i call 'lncli payinvoice ...'. and then thousands of lines of various stuff follows. i should probably pastebin it all 12:03 < lightningbot4> yeah. do that :slightly_smiling_face: 12:04 < haakonn> ah, github issue looks related 12:06 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:07 < naribia> im much more savvy with html+php but should I learn nodejs ? 12:07 < naribia> in the context of connecting web <-> lnd 12:11 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:13 -!- creslin_ [~textual@5.32.134.14] has joined #lnd 12:15 -!- creslin [~textual@5.32.134.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17 < haakonn> is there a way to increase the log file size? mine currently only holds 2 minutes worth of entries before it rotates, and then it only keeps 3 .gz archives 12:20 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@73.181.185.197] has joined #lnd 12:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@73.181.185.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:27 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mrqbfgiciljwaxxj] has joined #lnd 12:28 < byt411> im getting "EOF" when I try to open a channel 12:28 < byt411> what does that mean? 12:30 -!- windsok_ [~windsok@45.63.59.8] has joined #lnd 12:33 -!- stevenroose_ [~steven@vps.weuste.club] has joined #lnd 12:35 -!- Netsplit over, joins: lio17 12:36 -!- JediWed [wed@rv1025.1blu.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 12:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:48 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:51 <@molz> byt411, probably the node is down or gone? 12:52 <@molz> byt411, which node are you trying to open a channel with? 12:56 < lndbot1> New pub key here ghost channels cause issues obv. 0298d0c6987e2e64451c7f723e15aff4dfca92f0e3973d214e206257abb0d1dd55@lnd.bitrefill.com 12:56 < byt411> hey 12:57 < byt411> bitrefill 12:57 < byt411> and i've tried with a bunch from the map and none work 12:57 <@molz> that explorer is not a map! 12:58 <@molz> justin oh.. bitrefill just got updated? 12:58 <@molz> justin please make an announcement in here next time before you update and change the pubkey :P 12:59 < lndbot1> had to, nothing worked lol 12:59 < lndbot1> changed the medium articles if that helps :) 12:59 <@molz> yea i often have to check by looking at your blog 13:00 < byt411> finally opened the channel 13:00 < byt411> thanks 13:03 <@molz> byt411, yup, normally if you can't open a channel with a node it's because the node is down or gone 13:03 <@molz> we're in testing so expect this to happen 13:03 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gnskkzftdixbwclr] has joined #lnd 13:04 < byt411> hmm 13:04 < byt411> then the ones on the explorer arent all working? 13:04 < tumi> my node crashed due to segmnetation fault https://pastebin.com/CqLfvYHC 13:05 -!- bonks [~bonks@unaffiliated/bonks] has joined #lnd 13:05 < tumi> can't start it up again because of invalid data in .db files https://pastebin.com/wNMdW6wG 13:06 < bonks> How many confirmations does it take for a pending closing channel to drop? 13:07 -!- kpcyrd [~kpcyrd@2a03:b0c0:0:1010::16f:4001] has joined #lnd 13:07 -!- derbumi [sid186430@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czxvbayqzwzoyxxa] has joined #lnd 13:07 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:11 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 13:12 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has joined #lnd 13:14 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 13:14 -!- asasssa [5c573e1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.87.62.28] has joined #lnd 13:18 -!- asasssa [5c573e1c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.87.62.28] has quit [Client Quit] 13:18 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:21 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 13:27 < lndbot1> tumi: I'd wipe and update to master 13:34 < bonks> I just setup lnd and eclair and opened a couple channels with funds from the faucet. I tried to order from starblocks but the lightning payment still says pending in eclair. What is it waiting for? 13:35 -!- byt411 [5c392576@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.57.37.118] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:37 < qxt> This keeps showing up in my lnd [ERR] CMGR: Can't accept connection: chacha20poly1305: message authentication failed 13:38 < qxt> just flashes by now and then. What is causing this? 13:39 < qxt> bonks, did you update your lnd code and not delete the db? 13:40 < qxt> bonks, lot of ppl had this issue. I was one of them . 13:40 < bonks> qxt: This is my first time setting it up it finished syncing btcd last night 13:41 < qxt> what about lnd? 13:41 < bonks> I did a pull last night 13:42 < qxt> When you do a sendpayment --pay_req or something like that it just stops right? 13:42 < qxt> and never actually sends 13:43 < bonks> I made the payment from eclair 13:43 < bonks> Oops, maybe this is the wrong channel to ask 13:43 < qxt> might be 13:54 <@molz> qxt, not sure how you got this problem, i've been making payments with no problems, only can't do it if i don't have a channel with the node or there's no route to it 13:55 <@molz> qxt, you mean absolutely you can't open a channel with anyone ? 14:07 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:14 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:15 -!- wxss [~user@45.248.77.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:18 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 14:22 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:22 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:22 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:25 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has joined #lnd 14:28 < qxt> molz, looking into into. wipped all of lnd and am doing a fresh instill off of git. 14:28 < qxt> molz, but yes I could make channels with most ppl 14:29 < qxt> seems chacha20 was not liked by my setup. No idea why. 14:30 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:31 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:32 < bonks> What are the other test vendors aside from starblocks? 14:33 < qxt> bonks I am working on pwnstars of bcash. Should be done soon =) 14:34 < lndbot1> bonks you can try lncast.com 14:36 <@molz> qxt, ignore chacha20 14:36 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:36 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:36 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:36 < bonks> Cool thanks! 14:37 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mrqbfgiciljwaxxj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:39 < qxt> molz, yeah I am doing that. Might be that I had to do some fuckery with how RPC authenticated to my python. 14:39 < qxt> cert = open( '%s/.lnd/tls.cert' % (os.environ["LND_CERT_HOME"],)).read() 14:40 <@molz> qxt, im not sure what you're doing 14:41 < qxt> Setting up a site called PwnStars of Bcash. Pay a few sat and see "sexy" pictures of ppl like Roger Ver. You know leather and and other gross stuff =) 14:42 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:42 < qxt> Just playing around with the tutorials and elaborating on them. 14:44 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 14:44 < qxt> molz, but yes there is a issue with Exception Value: <_Rendezvous of RPC that terminated with (StatusCode.UNAVAILABLE, Endpoint read failed)> 14:44 < qxt> so I had to work around it and though maybe I broke something else. 14:44 <@molz> lol 14:49 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:49 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:49 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@x59cc8226.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 14:49 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 14:55 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:04 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 15:05 <@roasbeef> haakonn: unknownnextpeer is a normal routing error, it just means that a peer in the path wasn't online 15:05 -!- alreadylate [~textual@46.39.118.13] has joined #lnd 15:06 <@roasbeef> haakonn: it isn't a matter of routine, just a breaking change was made, there's code n place to do db migrations, but they aren't worth the maintanence at this stage 15:07 <@roasbeef> tumi: there was a breaking db change last week, you'll need to revert to a commit to close out your channels then update 15:08 <@roasbeef> fwiw starblocks wasn't reachable for me yesterday, the node that endurance was conneted to just wasn't present at all 15:08 <@roasbeef> keep in mind it's just a single node y'all (single homed in the graph, so poor path redundancy to the service) 15:09 < alreadylate> hey, does lnd work with an spv node? 15:10 < qxt> roasbeef, if you were to take a guess when do you think we might see a beta version? Just a stab in the dark. 15:10 < qxt> roasbeef, 1 2 3 years =) 15:10 <@roasbeef> haakonn: every git commit doesn't break the db, it was a planned change 15:10 <@roasbeef> much sooner than that 15:11 <@roasbeef> alreadylate: yeh there's a light client mode 15:11 <@roasbeef> even then once tsuff is out, you won't see 100% adoption over night 15:11 < alreadylate> @roasbeef thanx 15:11 <@roasbeef> even on testnet know services that seek to integrate shuld already be hashing out prototypes 15:11 < qxt> seems hard enough to get ppl to even use segwit. 15:12 < qxt> The key to adoption is that the avg retard out there can pickup their iphone and push the "me buy shit" button. 15:13 < qxt> Never underestimate just how stupid people can be. It is amazing. 15:15 <@roasbeef> ton more in bitcoin itself to be done before you just push a "me buy shit" button 15:16 < qxt> There was a time I use to buy lunch everyday with bitcoin at the local donut stand. Gosh I really wish I had not done that =) 15:16 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has left #lnd ["Leaving"] 15:16 <@molz> qxt, some local donut stand buys bitcoin? :P 15:17 <@molz> i mean lets you buy their donuts with bitcoin? 15:17 < qxt> molz, yeah back in 2012 or so. 15:17 <@molz> where 15:17 < qxt> Here in Linköping Sweden 15:17 <@molz> oh really 15:18 <@molz> sweden is so beautiful in the winter, i showed justin a pic the other day 15:18 < alreadylate> ännu en svensk här 15:18 < alreadylate> :) 15:18 < qxt> hej på dig 15:19 < qxt> molz, not really. No snow where I live. Just dark as ... well dark 15:21 < alreadylate> i actually don't think we should be so scared of letting some of the more technical usage at this point in time. remember there was a time when people actually we're open and curious about typing http://www. followed by an address, followed by .com. that's super abnormal and different from ordinary language, but people learned it 15:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:22 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:23 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 15:23 < qxt> alreadylate, maybe but we still of the issues guys like Mike Hearn brought up. Miners got us by the balls with fees and most ppl don't care about centralization. Would like to see Bitcoin over come its issues. 15:24 < qxt> before shitcoins like bcash can catch up. 15:24 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:25 < alreadylate> qxt i agree bitcoin needs a *lot* of work on design and user experience thought 15:25 < alreadylate> though* 15:25 < alreadylate> but i think there are some hidden gems in the use patterns we already have, waiting to be clarified 15:26 < qxt> I was very iffy about side channels at first. Now I am starting to see the incredible potential of them. So many spin offs. 15:26 < alreadylate> it's a new frontier for sure 15:28 < qxt> molz, yeah I looked at my old core wallet. Spend about 200 BTC back in 2012-2013 on feed and other dumb stuff. 15:28 < qxt> food^ statoshi dice etc 15:28 < alreadylate> does anyone know if there's an irc chat for bcoin? the javascript node by jj 15:30 < qxt> inte vad jag vet. 15:30 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 15:30 <@molz> qxt, wow.. did you mine bitcoin? 15:30 < qxt> yeah 15:31 < qxt> started with my Pentium then some AMD GPUs 15:31 < qxt> then I got a Avalon 15:31 < qxt> and waited a zillion years for my BFL crap 15:32 <@molz> yea i heard about BFL 15:32 < qxt> Luke-Jr sold me my first BTC on bitcoin-otc 15:32 < qxt> was a long time ago. Don't worry. i am not that rich. 15:33 < qxt> blow most of it xD 15:33 < qxt> blew ^ 15:34 <@molz> what do you mean Luke-Jr sold me my first BTC on bitcoin-otc ? you weren't mining bitcoin then? 15:34 < qxt> molz, got into BTC in oct 2012 15:34 < qxt> was luke that sold me some with PP 15:35 <@molz> ah 15:35 < qxt> then I got hooked 15:35 <@molz> and you still could mine with your Pentium in 2012? 15:36 < qxt> Used his mining software and he helped me set up 15:36 < qxt> Was the very very end and not really well 15:36 < qxt> but GPUs did work 15:36 < qxt> ASICs had not really broken out yet. The Avalon was the first IIRC 15:40 -!- alreadylate [~textual@46.39.118.13] has quit [] 15:40 < qxt> lol here is a old video from 2013. Just playing around stuff I made. https://youtu.be/uC-HO9hegMY 15:41 < qxt> little USB ASICs. Did 333 M/Hs IIRC. Cost like 1BTC each back then??? 15:42 < qxt> BTW I am onryo =) 15:42 -!- anomie_ [~anomie@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lnd 15:42 -!- anomie_ is now known as Guest14661 15:43 <@roasbeef> think I have a good grasp on that dangling htlc bug now, thx for the reports with logs etc y'all. gonna dig down for a few hours and have a crack at a bug ifx 15:43 * roasbeef goes into the coding dungeon 15:43 -!- Guest14661 [~anomie@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:44 < qxt> roasbeef, would be nice. That bug has been really a pain 15:44 -!- anome [~alreadyla@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lnd 15:47 -!- anome [~alreadyla@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [Client Quit] 15:57 < qxt> lncast.com works fine for me. https://starblocks.acinq.co is not working. Is that just me? 16:02 <@roasbeef> starblocks has been unreachable lately 16:02 -!- kuyjfknjoi [5240177c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.64.23.124] has joined #lnd 16:03 -!- kuyjfknjoi [5240177c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.64.23.124] has quit [Client Quit] 16:03 < qxt> roasbeef, is this just a lnd thing? I just tired it from my phone app EClair and it seems to work. 16:03 < qxt> roasbeef, have the right channels setup. 16:05 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-aqeetahhvcmvpjrg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gnskkzftdixbwclr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zdupdnerazayyzqz] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- cjd[m] [cdelisle1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pueozwgtuveofswq] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qslgyhpfgqhhjfcz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:05 <@molz> qxt, you mean the coffe site is not opened for you? 16:07 < qxt> molz, seems that way with lnd. Other sites are working though. On my phone I can pay though 16:07 < qxt> going make sure they are both using the same channels 16:11 <@roasbeef> qxt: eclair app auto makes a direct channel to it 16:11 <@molz> ok, my eclair mobile has one channel with endurance, one with htlc.me, and one with one of my lnd nodes, my lnd node doesn't have a channel with bitrefill but i just paid to bitrefill from the eclair mobile 16:13 < qxt> ah ok that explains a lot this roasbeef 16:13 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ptiuzsjhpmycqwtc] has joined #lnd 16:13 < qxt> *ok not going to use a autospell* 16:15 -!- jl2012 [sid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jauxjnntatagdssi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:16 -!- anome [~anome@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- anome [~anome@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has left #lnd [] 16:18 < qxt> roasbeef, there leeching off there channel lncli openchannel 022c315d7588cf1714159915baae386dc87462b669a7036df33850e9c0a3265893 --local_amt=16000000 16:19 -!- ninjahamstah [~ninjahams@unaffiliated/ninjamastah] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 16:19 < qxt> their^ *spell you retarded plugin* 16:20 -!- cjd[m] [cdelisle1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zwgydxgcusyvfrcr] has joined #lnd 16:20 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zqrauxenmbmamehj] has joined #lnd 16:20 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-abpslagtnfpjpwab] has joined #lnd 16:20 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xtcqbneeryxrfdux] has joined #lnd 16:21 -!- ninjahamstah [~ninjahams@2001:bc8:4400:2800::4b29] has joined #lnd 16:31 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjrwwrpdgbsbnhom] has joined #lnd 16:32 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:34 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has joined #lnd 17:18 -!- haarts [~haarts@dev.mindshards.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:19 -!- haarts [~haarts@dev.mindshards.net] has joined #lnd 17:41 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:9c6b:4d67:8891:f153] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:11 -!- jl2012 [sid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uccrcimhdzoypblx] has joined #lnd 18:12 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:13 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:14 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@104.250.164.64] has joined #lnd 18:24 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@188.72.105.201] has joined #lnd 18:28 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@104.250.164.64] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 18:38 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@188.72.105.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:38 -!- quizme [49aa7f17@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.170.127.23] has joined #lnd 18:40 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjrwwrpdgbsbnhom] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:44 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mzsbrohjcshchmvt] has joined #lnd 18:49 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 18:56 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@KD111103034253.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:56 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@240f:d:e193:1:fc2b:f63e:a1b1:216a] has joined #lnd 19:00 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@240f:d:e193:1:fc2b:f63e:a1b1:216a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18 <@roasbeef> aight tracked down source of the stuck htlc, and the panic on restart related to retransmission some peeps have been running into lately 19:19 <@roasbeef> combo of a few bugs, working on fixety fixety 19:21 < qxt> whats gmaxwell up to these days? He still doing his c-lighting thingy? 19:23 < qxt> Last I heard to moved to SF. Have not tired c-lighting. Just have not got around to it. 19:24 < lndbot1> I don't think gmaxwell has ever worked on it? 19:24 <@roasbeef> nah he hasn't written any code for c-lightning 19:24 <@roasbeef> that's decker and rusty 19:26 < qxt> ah he just sort of faded out of irc a few weeks ago. I guess I could ask him. Was telling about how nice SF was but I did not know what he was doing. 19:28 < qxt> I know zippo nada about java. What does this mean. fatal error: javafx/application/Application 19:29 < qxt> tried to run a jar on Debain 9 GNU/Linux 19:32 < qxt> Got a few lnd servers up. Thought I would toss up a eclair one too. Headless works fine. For some reason they are not using QT ..hate java xD 19:34 -!- qxt is now known as onryo 19:34 -!- onryo [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has quit [Changing host] 19:34 -!- onryo [~qxxt@unaffiliated/onryo] has joined #lnd 19:38 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:52 < quizme> do you guys have an idea of approximately when lightning is going to be released for production ? Is it like days, weeks, months, or years ? 19:59 < onryo> quizme, still in alfa 19:59 < quizme> so on the order of months ? 19:59 < quizme> onryo, so on the order of months ? 20:00 < onryo> production is a bold word. Guess would be at the end of this year. Depends on who you ask 20:01 < quizme> onryo, i see thank you. 20:01 < onryo> quizme, I know ppl that have tested it on mainnet now. 20:04 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: richard87] 20:04 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 20:08 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:08 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 20:31 < bonks> What are other basic ways to test LN beside lnd/eclair -> starblocks / other nodes? 20:42 -!- mkdir [ac3ad9a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.58.217.168] has joined #lnd 20:42 < mkdir> hi 20:43 < mkdir> is the lightning network git managed by lightning labs? 21:03 <@molz> the lnd implementation, yes 21:03 -!- mkdir [ac3ad9a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.58.217.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:04 <@molz> onryo, are you on Eclair gitter? 21:05 -!- alevchuk [45b5f9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.181.249.230] has joined #lnd 21:20 -!- naribia [adefe878@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:28 < onryo> molz, got it figured out. Was a thingy I needed install openjfx 21:30 < onryo> molz, eclair-node-gui-0.2-alpha8-8edb2a4.jar 21:32 < onryo> Something about jars make me uneasy. Think it is because 10 years ago in university they force fed us java 21:32 <@molz> i haven't installed eclair on desktop, only running an eclair mobile wannt 21:33 < onryo> I just tried it in a qemu instance. 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