--- Day changed Wed Jan 17 2018 00:05 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 00:08 -!- daouzo231 [~daraki235@81-223-13-90.static.upcbusiness.at] has joined #lnd 00:08 -!- daouzo231 [~daraki235@81-223-13-90.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Client Quit] 00:31 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:34 < artlav> What does getting WIRE_FINAL_INCORRECT_CLTV_EXPIRY mean? I'm trying to pay to yalls. 00:35 <@roasbeef> block race condition? 00:35 <@roasbeef> try again 00:36 < artlav> Tried 5 times, same thing every time. 00:42 <@roasbeef> just paid on my end, is your node synced? 00:43 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@81.17.30.86] has joined #lnd 00:45 -!- bitconto_ [~bitconto@81.17.30.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 < artlav> All synced. Weird, now it says it can't find a route. 00:50 < artlav> roasbeef: Which node is your channel that worked with? 00:58 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvjebftmsukauvpp] has joined #lnd 00:58 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvjebftmsukauvpp] has quit [Changing host] 00:58 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@unaffiliated/trotski2000] has joined #lnd 00:58 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@unaffiliated/trotski2000] has quit [Changing host] 00:58 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvjebftmsukauvpp] has joined #lnd 01:19 -!- format37 [bc23bc24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.35.188.36] has joined #lnd 01:20 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:23 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 01:35 < mlz> artlav, lnd node 01:37 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 01:43 -!- Pioklo__ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:47 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:48 -!- seaelem [~seaelem@c114-76-134-244.sunsh2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lnd 01:54 -!- artlav [~artlav@91.206.14.91] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:02 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 02:07 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 02:17 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 02:30 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 02:31 -!- EmperorSeptim [uid265175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqgmcnfgqcuwjayc] has joined #lnd 02:31 -!- seaelem [~seaelem@c114-76-134-244.sunsh2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:32 -!- seaelem [~seaelem@c114-76-134-244.sunsh2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lnd 02:32 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-69-235.mtel.net] has joined #lnd 02:34 -!- seaelem [~seaelem@c114-76-134-244.sunsh2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Client Quit] 02:42 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@85-118-69-235.mtel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:46 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@2001:a18:0:b23::6] has joined #lnd 02:50 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 02:57 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 03:02 -!- tomatopeel [~tomatopee@unaffiliated/tomatopeel] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:09 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@2001:a18:0:b23::6] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:11 < cluelessperson> alright 03:11 < cluelessperson> finally 03:11 < cluelessperson> mlz: can I PM? 03:11 < cluelessperson> !tops 03:14 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:d8de:22aa:3586:75c0] has joined #lnd 03:30 -!- wxss [~user@85.159.233.232] has joined #lnd 03:35 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has joined #lnd 04:17 < akihabara> goodmorning guys 04:29 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:33 -!- gaf_ [~fag@12.smos-linux.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:42 -!- gaf_ [~fag@12.smos-linux.org] has joined #lnd 05:00 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:01 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 05:05 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:08 -!- format37 [bc23bc24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.35.188.36] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:08 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has joined #lnd 05:12 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 05:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:38 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:00 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:03 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 06:05 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:12 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has joined #lnd 06:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:16 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:31 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 06:46 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 07:05 -!- centaur [62e74a5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.74.93] has joined #lnd 07:28 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.121.86.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:31 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:33 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Quit: https://quanto.ga/] 07:39 -!- JohnWayne_ [5e8fbdf1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.143.189.241] has joined #lnd 07:39 -!- JohnWayne_ [5e8fbdf1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.143.189.241] has quit [Client Quit] 07:44 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@181.121.86.83] has joined #lnd 07:46 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:50 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 07:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:52 -!- Pioklo__ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:53 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54 < kmordic> if a channel is open to me, funds being on their side. how to i fund the same channel on myside. or do i have to open a new channel? 07:54 -!- crimi [b9b7688d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.183.104.141] has joined #lnd 07:56 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 07:56 < crimi> Hey all, i got c-lightning(ElementsProject) running on main net, when i want to fund a address(newaddr) the output is a bitcoin address like "2N9uoYpfmbXXXXXXXXXXX" for example. Are addresses starting with 2 testnet? lightning-cli getinfo, at least shows me the main net block height If i'll do lightning-cli getinfo i receive { "type" : "ipv6", "address" : "xxxxxxxxxx", "port" : 9735 } ], "version" : "v0.5.2-2016-11-21-1572-gb13c65d", "b 07:56 < crimi> I did start the node with lightningd/lightningd 07:57 < crimi> how can i get lightning-c to get me addresses with 3 ? 07:59 < kmordic> crimi: dont know the answer, but question for you. how many nodes are currently running on mainnet right now? 08:00 < crimi> :=) i hope at least the blockstream node to buy a shirt 08:00 < Veggen> mainnet isn't really recommended. 08:00 < lndbot> https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ 08:00 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-36-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 08:01 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uldznfcpukpmgvpr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 08:02 < Veggen> i.e. you shouldn't create any large channels, and expect to have to close them again just because :) 08:02 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@81.17.30.86] has quit [] 08:03 < crimi> i just want to know if the current version of c-lightning(ElementsProject) even supporting mainnet address generation i cant fund a channel with addresses starting with 2 08:04 < Veggen> oh. Of that, I don't know :) 08:05 < crimi> :) 08:10 -!- crimi [b9b7688d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.185.183.104.141] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:15 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 08:16 -!- daouzo23 [~daraki235@81-223-13-90.static.upcbusiness.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:19 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 08:23 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 08:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:25 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:25 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has joined #lnd 08:25 -!- tenev [~tenev@89.205.125.206] has joined #lnd 08:26 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] romanornr opened pull request #617: Travis: fix sudo required and apt-get update command (master...master) https://git.io/vNBGy 08:29 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:29 -!- kmordic [~kmordic@76.14.28.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:29 -!- Deadlyelder [~deadlyeld@158.64.79.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:33 < mlz> cluelessperson, hey, sure 08:38 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:46 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:48 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 08:56 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:01 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 09:02 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:06 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 09:06 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] aakselrod closed pull request #617: Travis: fix sudo required and apt-get update command (master...master) https://git.io/vNBGy 09:07 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:07 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 09:10 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-36-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:18 -!- kmordic [~kmordic@76.14.28.158] has joined #lnd 09:21 -!- himynameis [b3b475a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.180.117.165] has joined #lnd 09:21 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25 -!- kmordicLT [~kmordicLT@76.14.28.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:25 -!- himynameis [b3b475a5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.179.180.117.165] has quit [Client Quit] 09:26 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:30 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 09:40 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:42 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:45 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:45 < stevenroose> This is what happens when graph drawing software is not meant for overly connected graphs: https://stevenroose.github.io/lightninggraph/ 10:01 -!- Anduck [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has joined #lnd 10:02 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:02 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 10:10 < waxwing> but muh hubs? :) 10:10 < waxwing> heh my firefox can't even load it 10:11 < grubles> yeah neither can mine 10:12 < waxwing> roasbeef, does your IDE autocorrect "Hold" to "Hodl" ;) 10:17 < kmordic> any way i can read more about the autopilot feature? 10:25 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 10:27 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:27 -!- Saevar [2e166296@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.22.98.150] has joined #lnd 10:27 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 10:28 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:29 -!- Saevar [2e166296@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.22.98.150] has quit [Client Quit] 10:30 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 10:33 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:33 -!- aakselrod [aakselrod@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/aakselrod] has joined #lnd 10:34 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 10:36 < aakselrod> kmordic: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases <-- scroll down to the autopilot section 10:38 < kmordic> aakselrod: thank you 10:38 < aakselrod> np 10:44 -!- zx0w [~zx0w@172.86.120.144] has joined #lnd 10:51 -!- EmperorSeptim [uid265175@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqgmcnfgqcuwjayc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:55 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:56 -!- Saevar [2e166296@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.22.98.150] has joined #lnd 11:00 < grubles> can i enable pruning on btcd and be able to still use lnd? 11:00 < aakselrod> grubles: not at this time (doesn't pruning make txindex impossible anyway?) 11:01 < grubles> yeah i was going to mention txindex 11:01 < grubles> drats 11:01 < grubles> ok thanks 11:01 < aakselrod> we have a TODO to cycle through previous blocks when txindex isn't available for both bitcoind and btcd back-ends 11:01 < grubles> how much space does a node with txindex require nowadays? 11:02 < aakselrod> http://bc.daniel.net.nz/ <-- ~200GB 11:02 < grubles> awesome thanks 11:03 < aakselrod> i have a 512GB flash drive coming today so i can set up a full mainnet node on a raspi 3b, gonna see how it works with lnd *and* bitcoind on it 11:03 < grubles> excellent 11:03 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:04 < aakselrod> if it doesn't work well, i will probably move lnd to a raspi 2b that will still use the 3b as its backing full node 11:04 < grubles> oh do you need btcd or can i use bitcoind? 11:04 < aakselrod> you can now use bitcoind but there's a small bug in our zmq implementation, fix incoming... hopefully today 11:04 < grubles> cool :) 11:04 < aakselrod> make sure your bitcoind is built with zmq support 11:05 < grubles> right 11:09 < grubles> is neutrino mode able to be used on mainnet yet? 11:09 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-135-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 11:10 < aakselrod> no, it won't be until the BIP is finalized 11:10 < grubles> ok thanks! 11:11 < aakselrod> although lnd isn't really able to be used on mainnet unless you hack the params in yourself, either :P 11:11 < aakselrod> so if you're doing that, you *could* enable neutrino on mainnet, but it's definitely not safe 11:11 < grubles> i see 11:11 < grubles> understood 11:12 < aakselrod> and i don't know of anyone running nodes on mainnet capable of serving neutrino-style clients, either 11:12 < aakselrod> which i wouldn't recommend as the spec is still changing 11:12 < grubles> "hack the params" ie btcctl --mainnet? 11:12 < grubles> erm, --bitcoin.mainnet 11:13 < aakselrod> yeah basically 11:13 < aakselrod> we don't recommend that either :) 11:13 < grubles> understood :-) 11:14 < aakselrod> that said, imma be a bit reckless myself when i get that raspi node synced up :P 11:15 < grubles> hehe 11:15 < grubles> yolo 11:16 < kmordic> grubles: good luck 11:16 < grubles> i'm waiting on a rock64 to get here :< 11:16 < aakselrod> nice 11:24 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:26 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 11:26 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 11:30 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:32 -!- wumpus [~quassel@pdpc/supporter/professional/wumpus] has joined #lnd 11:32 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-135-233.219.201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:38 < stevenroose> If lnd gets an invoice it can currently not pay through the available channels, what is the behavior? Will it simply open a one-ended channel with the target node? Or will it run some heuristic to find the best node that allows him to pay the target node? 11:38 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 11:54 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 11:56 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-13-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 12:01 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-13-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:02 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30] has joined #lnd 12:04 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.2.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:15 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:16 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-118-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 12:24 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 12:27 -!- kmordicLT [~kmordicLT@76.14.28.158] has joined #lnd 12:35 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 12:38 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wilmerpaulino opened pull request #618: Change wallet password (master...change-wallet-password) https://git.io/vNB9r 12:42 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-118-236-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:42 -!- Hirama [bce2842b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.226.132.43] has joined #lnd 12:43 < Hirama> Guys how to pay with lightning? 12:44 < Hirama> I want to buy t-short from blockstream store) how to do it? 12:45 < kmordic> you have to run a node on lightning network first 12:45 < kmordic> do you have a link to this "t-shirt store"? 12:46 < Hirama> yes 12:47 < Hirama> I have link 12:47 < Hirama> lnbc2355616170p1pd9lt2fpp57qnqcs0td798xexd74xdk5chk6qmp9vu44rlumu4xcw6a0x4c0ysdylgfkx7cmtwd68yetpd5azqv349ccrqgz42dzzqen0wgsyc6t8dp6xu6twvus8xarfvd4k2u3q0qsrygrpdejzq3r0dcnhggz5wf6hxapwyptx2unfveujugpdypxk2mnnypeks6tjwssz6gzdv4jxjatdypuzqvgcqpg90k8cj45sf7352cqpkdr8sztjy25zl067x6ru8hvn7k2vj2vzu4zgrk5cwf9t5dxh8s6jzl20wsa64fvtx7jsemmasthhajcljvekpgqmduapv 12:47 < Hirama> this one? 12:47 < Hirama> I think it's payment invoice right? 12:48 < kmordic> Hirama: a URl but dont worry i found it. their selling stickers to? oh god... 12:48 < kmordic> yes 12:48 < kmordic> thats an invoice to make a payment 12:49 < kmordic> Hirama: you need to open a channel to make the payment. 12:49 < Hirama> so I need to build lnd? and run it? next I can give this invoice to the my node? 12:49 < Hirama> but how to run lnd in main net? 12:49 < kmordic> Hirama: it sounds easy but you would have to run that on main net witch is not recommended at the moment. 12:49 < Hirama> on github example for test net 12:50 < Hirama> uhhh( ok thank you man! 12:50 < aakselrod> lnd does not support mainnet yet, Hirama 12:51 -!- anthonyism [~anthonyis@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 12:51 < kmordic> aakselrod: are you sure? i can just run btcd on mainchain and then run lnd without --bitcoin.testnet 12:52 < kmordic> aakselrod: shouldnt it connect? 12:52 < aakselrod> kmordic: no, it won't work 12:53 < anthonyism> hey, first time messing with btcd and lnd so bare with me -- everything seemed to install correctly and both btcd and lnd are running, however lnd seems to be stuck on the fee estimator -- my btcd is still syncing (mainnet) is this normal? 12:53 < kmordic> anthonyism: wait for btcd to sync 12:53 < anthonyism> thanks, i figured as much 12:53 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:54 < anthonyism> is it gonna take days? 12:54 < Hirama> yes 12:54 < kmordic> anthonyism: wait main net? 12:54 < anthonyism> yes 12:54 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 12:54 < kmordic> anthonyism: aakselrod says lnd doesnt work on mainnet. ^^ 12:55 < anthonyism> oh -- well that'll stop me dead in my tracks, ok 12:55 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 12:55 < kmordic> anthonyism: wait for it to sync and try. 12:56 < anthonyism> sure -- no one is messing with mainnet yet? 12:56 < kmordic> anthonyism: i dont see any reason it wouldnt honestly but if anyone can answer that question its roasbeef 12:56 < kmordic> anthonyism: not yet still risky. 12:57 < kmordic> anthonyism: still bugs that need to be worked out. 12:57 < anthonyism> kmordic: i bet 12:57 < kmordic> anthonyism: https://store.blockstream.com/ disclaimer YOU MAY LOSE FUNDS! 12:58 < aakselrod> there are a few sites that allow mainnet ln payments, but no software supports it out of the box - you have to modify it yourself, and you're very likely to lose funds at this stage 13:01 < anthonyism> aakselrod: kmordic i totally get it. i've been trying to get a reason to play with some of the tech and this seemed like a good opportunity 13:02 < kmordic> anthonyism: you should but you should run on testnet to get familiar with the program and how the system/network works. 13:02 -!- tenev [~tenev@89.205.125.206] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:02 < kmordic> anthonyism: you can get testnet coins easy just to mess around. if you loose them who cares. 13:03 < anthonyism> kmordic: sounds reasonable --- how long does it take to sync testnet? 13:03 < kmordic> anthonyism: few hours depending on your connection. 13:03 < anthonyism> kmordic: so much less than the 100gb that i've read the mainnet is 13:04 < kmordic> anthonyism: yeah way less 13:04 < grubles> is there a btcd --dbcache flag or similar? 13:05 < anthonyism> kmordic: ok cool, i'm going to mess with that for a bit -- i'm sure i'll be back with questions, are there any good resources you know of so I have a place to reference before I bug you guys 13:05 < kmordic> sure are you running linux? 13:05 < anthonyism> in this instance, now i'm on my mac, but i can be if that is preferable 13:06 < kmordic> anthonyism: do you have lnd installed already? 13:06 < anthonyism> yes 13:06 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:07 < aakselrod> grubles: no 13:07 < grubles> hm can i specify dbcache in btcd.conf? 13:07 * grubles googles 13:08 < grubles> nope 13:08 < kmordic> anthonyism: did you already follow these instructions http://lightning.community/lnd/faucet/2017/01/19/lightning-network-faucet/ 13:09 < kmordic> anthonyism: extra info on LND https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/releases 13:09 < anthonyism> kmordic: i followed the instructions on the github project -- they seem very similar, the only thing I changed was testnet to mainnet 13:10 -!- Hirama [bce2842b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.226.132.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:10 < anthonyism> kmordic: actually i just omitted the bitcoin.testnet piece and just did bitcoin.active 13:11 < kmordic> anthonyism: yeah that will download the bitcoin blockchain are you sure you dont want to run testnet yet? if you cancel the btcd and run testnet, it should shave the progress for main. 13:12 -!- af_ [~af@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 13:12 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 13:14 < anthonyism> kmordic: if i cancel the mainnet download will and start it over will it resume where it stopped or start from the beginning 13:14 -!- anthonyism [~anthonyis@pool-100-14-7-68.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:14 < kmordic> anthonyism: it resumed for me, so i cant see why it wont for you. 13:15 -!- af_ is now known as anthonyism 13:15 < anthonyism> ok 13:16 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 13:19 < anthonyism> kmordic: started testnet -- so i'll let this sync and i'll be back in a few hours -- anything i can read up on while this is going on? 13:24 < anthonyism> i think i'm just going to mess with this (http://dev.lightning.community/tutorial/index.html) for now, any other suggestions are welcome -- thanks! 13:30 < kmordic> anthonyism: everything i sent you above. if anything im at the same level of learning about all of this as you. 13:30 < waxwing> the simnet setup instructions at that link work perfectly, very helpful if you want to tinker with the software itself 13:32 -!- qxt [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has joined #lnd 13:33 < qxt> heh no pressure but mainnet is stating to go live. 13:34 < kmordic> qxt: https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ 29 nodes. reckless indeed. 13:35 < qxt> https://bitcoinexchangerate.org/lightning 13:37 < kmordic> qxt: thanks i couldnt find any other links to mainnet LN. very laggy page though. 13:37 < qxt> kmordic, I know a few others that are are on mainnet just to push around some btc between eachother. They are not on that chart 13:39 < kmordic> qxt: once they connect to anyone on that map they should be seen right? 13:39 < qxt> Three guys in Sweden, 1 in the USA and 1 in Germany made a little network 13:39 < qxt> yeah would think so. Just like testnet then 13:40 < qxt> roasbeef, whats your take on this? 13:41 < kmordic> qxt: you think its the 3 on the outside in this map https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ 13:41 < qxt> Your boss seemed a little ... "stressed" =) 13:41 < qxt> heh yeah maybe. Did not see them out there 13:42 < kmordic> qxt: i figure it would show them if their broadcasting and their ports are set to 9735. 13:44 < qxt> kmordic, there are prolly a lot more then just whats shown here. A katrillion basement dwellers that just do stuff and keep quite about it I would think 13:45 < kmordic> qxt: good the more basement dwellers the better. 13:45 < qxt> yup! 13:46 < qxt> Gotta love the aliases "RECKLESS" =) 13:46 < kmordic> qxt: indeed it is reckless 13:46 < kmordic> qxt: im still working on recovering all my funds on testnet. some channels just wont shutdown. 13:47 < qxt> I guess if you know that you very well could loose your stuff and you love tech...why not 13:47 < qxt> yeah I did a git pull last week and trashed my build 13:50 < qxt> kmordic, Would be kinda funny to have alias "TORICH2CARE" 13:50 < kmordic> qxt: yeah i had to restart from scratch a few times. i dont entirely know what im doing. but in the last few days ive learned allot. not enough to try something reckless of course. 13:50 < kmordic> qxt: lol im sure most of those people are. 13:51 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:52 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pldmweqsgfmyktjs] has joined #lnd 13:53 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:b03d:a081:6cb4:2ec7] has joined #lnd 13:53 -!- ggafo [~ggafo@miami-wifi-vip.cictr.com] has joined #lnd 13:59 < ggafo> hello, anyone here? 13:59 < kmordic> yes people are here 13:59 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Quit: lio17] 14:00 -!- Hoglar [~Thunderbi@31.81-167-122.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 14:03 -!- Hoglar_ [51a77a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.167.122.31] has joined #lnd 14:03 -!- aecc [54d354bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.211.84.188] has joined #lnd 14:04 -!- Hoglar_ [51a77a1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.167.122.31] has quit [Client Quit] 14:04 < ggafo> Can someone suggest a good guide/tutorial that will help me make my first lightning transaction? 14:05 < Hoglar> I have just installed linux for the first time, for lightning! 14:05 < ggafo> Hoglar: now you're installing lnd? 14:06 < Hoglar> i have no idea, dont even know if i have enough space for the bitcoin full node 14:06 < Hoglar> I guess you start on github 14:07 < Hoglar> they have a good guide there, i started there some days ago but quit cause i only had windows 14:07 < ggafo> Are you talking about the docker guide? 14:07 < Hoglar> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 14:07 < Hoglar> this 14:08 < Hoglar> But sorry, im really new to this, gonna spent some time so maybe we can help eachother in some days :P 14:09 < ggafo> Oh yeah, I meant an example of an actual transaction 14:09 < ggafo> Haha that sounds good, I literally installed an IRC client just for this 14:10 < Hoglar> lol. irc kinda popped up on this new linux, didnt know people actually used it still 14:10 -!- Hoglar [~Thunderbi@31.81-167-122.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: Hoglar] 14:11 < kmordic> ggafo: https://paste.ee/p/MA9Nk 14:12 < kmordic> ggafo: http://lightning.community/lnd/faucet/2017/01/19/lightning-network-faucet/ 14:14 < ggafo> kmordic: thank you! 14:18 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 14:18 <@roasbeef> someone had a q? 14:18 <@roasbeef> lost it in csrollbackk 14:20 < kmordic> roasbeef: Three guys in Sweden, 1 in the USA and 1 in Germany made a little network 14:20 < kmordic> yeah would think so. Just like testnet then 14:20 < kmordic> roasbeef, whats your take on this? 14:21 <@roasbeef> ?? 14:21 < qxt> wut? 14:21 < kmordic> roasbeef: qxt> heh no pressure but mainnet is stating to go live. 14:22 < kmordic> roasbeef: qxt> https://bitcoinexchangerate.org/lightning 14:22 < qxt> kmordic, why are your reciting what we talked about 30 min ago for? 14:22 < kmordic> he was referring to that ithink 14:22 <@roasbeef> welp 14:23 < qxt> roasbeef, anyway how you feel about mainnet lighting up with lnd =) 14:23 <@roasbeef> wouldn't recommend it 14:23 <@roasbeef> testnet is fiiine 14:23 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.130.30.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:23 < qxt> roasbeef, Stark seems a little less happy about it 14:24 <@roasbeef> would rather work on fixing the final safety features required in the daemon, than help people get money out of the daemon is they trigger one of the edge cases not yet accounted for 14:24 <@roasbeef> if they* 14:24 < waxwing> what's the value of `to_self_delay` as per bolt3, used? 14:24 <@roasbeef> waxwing: you mean what's the default? 14:25 < waxwing> i guess i do, yeah 14:25 < qxt> roasbeef, have a feeling that this is blockstream's way of cracking a whip over heads...unfortunately. 14:27 < qxt> roasbeef, impossible to answer but gotta ask anyway. When would you guess we might see a release? 14:27 <@roasbeef> waxwing: atm we do linear interoplation over a min and max value taking into account how much stake is in teh channel 14:27 <@roasbeef> the value is configurable tho 14:27 -!- ggafo [~ggafo@miami-wifi-vip.cictr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 14:27 <@roasbeef> note that what you specify is what you want the *remote* party to use for their csv value, they specify your csv value 14:28 <@roasbeef> there are some snaity checks to ensure we don't accept a value of like 1 year or something 14:28 < waxwing> roasbeef, ah ok, i found an estimation function where it just returned 4 :) 14:28 < waxwing> but i think that was remote or something 14:28 <@roasbeef> lol yeh that was pre a recent PR merge 14:28 < waxwing> got distracted since then, i started getting curious when i did a force close and wondered how long it would take 14:29 <@roasbeef> new ting is: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnd.go#L340 14:29 < waxwing> heh was a literal xkcd moment :) 14:29 <@roasbeef> lolol 14:29 <@roasbeef> it use the default param if set, or just fallback to sclaing with the amount in the channel otherwise 14:29 < waxwing> thanks 14:38 < qxt> Has alias been implemented yet? There was some activity a week or two ago with them. 14:39 <@roasbeef> not yet...trying to get out this major feature then will start to clear out the PR backlog 14:39 <@roasbeef> travis has been restored, so that's nice 14:42 < lndbot> Does lnd supports splicing in/out with the current version? 14:42 < grubles> oo TIL about btcdmon 14:42 < qxt> roasbeef, oooh a major feature? What feature you working on? 14:42 -!- lio1754 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 14:44 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:d8de:22aa:3586:75c0] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:44 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:45 < mlz> qxt, "aliases" major feature, what the kids have been bugging him 14:47 -!- nyanz [~nyanz@187.187.205.152] has joined #lnd 14:48 < qxt> mlz, that would be me I guess. 14:48 < mlz> :D 14:48 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:b03d:a081:6cb4:2ec7] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 14:55 -!- BitAlt [7ca88889@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.168.136.137] has joined #lnd 14:56 < BitAlt> Howdy..... Quick questions... To request a payment on behalf of someone else, all I need is SHA256 of the preimage for the signature? 14:56 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:1c2b:91f7:b4d5:49b] has joined #lnd 14:56 < BitAlt> The rest of the LN address can be constructed from there without needing private key? 15:00 <@roasbeef> lol aliases is def not a major fearture 15:01 <@roasbeef> BitAlt: that are no addresses, just payment hashes 15:01 <@roasbeef> BitAlt: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/11-payment-encoding.md 15:04 -!- AndBobsY_ [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 15:04 -!- bule2 [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has joined #lnd 15:05 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:1c2b:91f7:b4d5:49b] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:07 -!- AndBobsY_ [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Client Quit] 15:07 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 15:07 -!- bule [~bule@gateway/tor-sasl/bule] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:16 -!- lio175456 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 15:18 -!- lio1754 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:20 -!- aecc [54d354bc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.211.84.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:23 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 15:27 -!- doug__ [d8e0d6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.224.214.250] has joined #lnd 15:30 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 15:30 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 15:35 -!- doug__ [d8e0d6fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.224.214.250] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:42 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:51 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 15:54 -!- nyanz [~nyanz@187.187.205.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:55 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:57 -!- wxss [~user@85.159.233.232] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:03 -!- qxt [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06 -!- nyanz [~nyanz@187.187.205.152] has joined #lnd 16:09 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-8-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has joined #lnd 16:13 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:13 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 16:15 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:8c9b:3c86:5652:ff48] has joined #lnd 16:15 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:8c9b:3c86:5652:ff48] has quit [Changing host] 16:15 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 16:17 -!- Crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:26 -!- YungMoonHodler_ is now known as YungMoonHodler 16:37 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 16:43 -!- Giszmo [~leo@ip-8-237-219-201.nextelmovil.cl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:46 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:51 < mlz> roasbeef, i've just learned that the commit fee gets increased after each tx, why is that? 16:52 -!- lio175456 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Quit: lio175456] 16:52 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 16:53 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 16:55 -!- lio175456 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 16:57 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 16:57 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:58 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 17:04 -!- lio175456 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Quit: lio175456] 17:04 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 17:05 <@roasbeef> mlz: nope 17:05 <@roasbeef> oh well each block it samples to see if the fee rate has changed, and then acts based upon that 17:05 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Client Quit] 17:06 < mlz> i've done a few txs to yalls, 100 sat each tx, and 100 sat added to the commit fee 17:07 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 17:07 -!- dabura667_ [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 17:07 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:15 <@roasbeef> if one of the transactions is uncleared, and a pending htlc, then you'd see a higher commit fee to cover that 17:17 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.48.158] has joined #lnd 17:40 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:41 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has quit [Quit: lio17] --- Log closed Wed Jan 17 17:55:18 2018 --- Log opened Wed Jan 17 17:55:28 2018 17:55 -!- kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] has joined #lnd 17:55 -!- Irssi: #lnd: Total of 146 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 144 normal] 17:56 -!- Bosma [sid103570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mttbsgrcunolucjj] has joined #lnd 17:56 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kajlnqyvowrcnlly] has joined #lnd 18:00 -!- EvanR [~evan@mail.evanr.info] has joined #lnd 18:00 -!- EvanR [~evan@mail.evanr.info] has quit [Changing host] 18:00 -!- EvanR [~evan@unaffiliated/evanr] has joined #lnd 18:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #lnd was synced in 541 secs 18:05 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@46.243.136.44] has joined #lnd 18:11 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 18:13 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 18:16 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 18:18 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 18:28 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pldmweqsgfmyktjs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:35 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:40 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 18:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@46.243.136.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:45 -!- ghost43 [~daer@unaffiliated/daer] has joined #lnd 18:47 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 18:49 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 18:49 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 19:00 -!- Crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:04 -!- lio17 [~lio17@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lnd 19:18 -github-onion:#lnd- [lightning-onion] cfromknecht opened pull request #17: Obfuscator Serialization (master...obfuscator-serialization) https://git.io/vNRWM 19:20 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 19:24 -!- qxt [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has joined #lnd 19:26 < qxt> roasbeef, looking at this map on mainnet it looks like a lot of them are using lnd. They have aliases like lnd.rompert.com lnd.ros.io etc 19:26 < qxt> https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ 19:26 < qxt> roasbeef, thought you could not set a alias as of yet on lnd? 19:31 -!- Compy_ [sid223296@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvviwzssveicakwq] has joined #lnd 19:31 -!- jl2012 [sid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abyxswqabcudhbfl] has joined #lnd 19:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Nebraskka 19:31 -!- weex [sid152634@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgsqeqrlvshbcrio] has joined #lnd 19:32 -!- weex is now known as Guest65534 19:32 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ivvoaxnvgtfhjijc] has joined #lnd 19:44 < mlz> lol 19:44 <@roasbeef> if peeps are recompilling to enable mainnet, not too far off for them to go ahead and add an alias 19:49 -!- qxt [~qxxt@unaffiliated/qxt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:58 -!- Beast [~Beast@221.146.26.169] has joined #lnd 19:59 -!- rserranon [c4340a1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.10.27] has joined #lnd 19:59 < rserranon> HELP 20:00 <@roasbeef> rserranon: sup? 20:00 < Beast> i am launching this: lnd --rpcport=10001 --peerport=10011 --restport=8001 --datadir=test_data --logdir=test_log --debuglevel=info --no-macaroons --bitcoin.rpcuser=kek --bitcoin.rpcpass=kek --bitcoin.simnet --bitcoin.active 20:00 < Beast> but get lnd --rpcport=10001 --peerport=10011 --restport=8001 --datadir=test_data --logdir=test_log --debuglevel=info --no-macaroons --bitcoin.rpcuser=kek --bitcoin.rpcpass=kek --bitcoin.simnet --bitcoin.active 20:00 < Beast> sorry: lnd --rpcport=10001 --peerport=10011 --restport=8001 --datadir=test_data --logdir=test_log --debuglevel=info --no-macaroons --bitcoin.rpcuser=kek --bitcoin.rpcpass=kek --bitcoin.simnet --bitcoin.active 20:00 < Beast> argh 20:00 <@roasbeef> Beast: you pasted twice it looks like? 20:00 <@roasbeef> clear your buffer lol 20:01 < Beast> unknown flag 'bitcoin.rpcuser' 20:01 < Beast> sorry it was in a VM so not copying :P 20:01 < rserranon> Sorry, I'm new here: Just looking for a guide to try lnd on mainnet with my bitcoind node 20:02 < Beast> following Installation guide and the tutorial 20:02 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwtuxviubttmzzte] has joined #lnd 20:03 <@roasbeef> rserranon: have you looked at the installation instructions? 20:03 <@roasbeef> Beast: ah it's not btcd.rpcuser=XXX 20:03 <@roasbeef> it's now* 20:04 <@roasbeef> Beast: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md#running-lnd-using-the-btcd-backend 20:04 <@roasbeef> may need to update some tuts 20:04 < rserranon> Yes I manage to install with btcd 20:04 <@roasbeef> that was a recent change 20:06 < rserranon> but I have a full bitcoin core node and I would like to try with it 20:07 -!- prokyle123 [49f6c7b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.246.199.183] has joined #lnd 20:08 <@roasbeef> rserranon: yes you can do that too 20:08 <@roasbeef> if you look at those instructions, there's a section for bitcoind 20:08 < rserranon> on mainnet ? 20:09 -!- prokyle123 [49f6c7b7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.246.199.183] has quit [Client Quit] 20:10 < Beast> i am sorry for the stupid questions, but how do i enter commands once btcd/lnd are running? 20:10 < Beast> I will write up and idiot proof noob guide once I get this working 20:12 < rserranon> thx roastbeef, can I connect to mainnet or I will have to wait? 20:21 < rserranon> ? 20:23 < lndbot> rserranon: you should wait 20:24 < rserranon> ok no problem. thx anyway, I will try to comeback later and in the meantime do some tests 20:26 < lndbot> testnet is fun 20:30 <@roasbeef> testnet is where it's at 20:30 <@roasbeef> Beast: if you look at this is goes over some essential lncli commands: http://dev.lightning.community/tutorial/01-lncli/index.html 20:40 -!- rserranon [c4340a1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.10.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:56 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 21:01 < Beast> yes thanks I am working my way through it all now. some of the current documentation doesn't work so isn't as simple as following a step by step guide 21:01 <@roasbeef> Beast: yeh, we need to update them, apologies 21:01 < Beast> figuring it out slowly and will write up a retard guide afterwards 21:01 <@roasbeef> by the week end, hope to have all of them updated with the latst info 21:02 * roasbeef bows 21:02 < Beast> managed to fund everything now, slowly getting there! 21:03 <@roasbeef> dope 21:23 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 21:27 < mlz> There's a new revision of the client-side filtering BIP (aka. the neutrino BIP). I'd appreciate any review/feedback people have. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/636 21:34 -!- jpg [473e5253@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.62.82.83] has joined #lnd 21:44 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:47 -!- t4sk [01342144@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.52.33.68] has joined #lnd 21:48 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 21:49 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 22:06 -!- t4sk [01342144@gateway/web/freenode/ip.1.52.33.68] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:15 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 22:22 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 22:34 -!- Guest65534 is now known as weex 22:34 -!- weex [sid152634@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bgsqeqrlvshbcrio] has quit [Changing host] 22:34 -!- weex [sid152634@fsf/member/weex] has joined #lnd 22:36 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:38 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 22:41 < blyat> Can I used DescribeGraph even if I have no channels open? I'm trying to see global statistics about the network like number of nodes/channels. Or does it only work if I'm connected into the network through a channel? 22:41 < blyat> use* 22:42 < weex> blyat: describegraph works without channels 22:42 < blyat> weex, great, thanks 22:42 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:b01e:6eb6:5f40:d811] has joined #lnd 22:42 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:b01e:6eb6:5f40:d811] has quit [Changing host] 22:42 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 22:43 < weex> getinfo shows you those things too 22:43 < weex> or getnetworkinfo, sorry 22:43 < mlz> it uses graphiz and it's kinda ugly 22:43 < blyat> cool, I'll play around with it. Just wanted to ask first before trying because I don't plan on opening any channels 22:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:44 <@roasbeef> blyat: yeh if you just connect out, you'll sync the net view eventually 22:44 <@roasbeef> then can use that for visualizations, etc 22:44 <@roasbeef> but there's also getnetworkinfo which shows some basic stats 22:44 <@roasbeef> but def more analysis to be done on the data returned 22:44 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:987b:d196:9c80:d6b4] has joined #lnd 22:44 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:987b:d196:9c80:d6b4] has quit [Changing host] 22:44 -!- YungMoonHodler__ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 22:46 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:47 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:50 < Beast> would someone mind opening a channel with me on testnet please? 22:50 < Beast> 02c17fd885a9f976c2ea7a18c6a877aa2d9ca062bdb392ac1ee9604b18b21b8975 22:53 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 22:54 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 23:03 < Beast> or can someone give me a node to connect to, dont seem to be able to open channels with nodes on acinq explorer 23:04 < weex> one sec 23:10 < Sentineo> let me start my node, too 23:14 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has joined #lnd 23:16 < Sentineo> Beast: did not run my testnet node for 7 days, so needs to sync, bare with me please 23:16 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@62.68.195.173] has joined #lnd 23:16 < Beast> no problem 23:17 < Beast> i just want to make sure I have done this right 23:17 < Beast> managed the stage 1 tutorial OK 23:17 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:17 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@62.68.195.173] has quit [Client Quit] 23:18 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@62.68.195.173] has joined #lnd 23:20 < blyat> roasbeef, thanks 23:21 < Sentineo> I did not play much with it Beast , but to open a channel I always needed an IP and a port as well 23:21 < blyat> I'm having a problem getting lnd started because I think it's looking for zmq on the wrong port. How do I set that in the lnd.conf? 23:21 < Sentineo> the pubkey was not enough, for eclair at least 23:21 < Beast> so you always need to use the connect command followed by openchannel? 23:22 < Sentineo> I beleive so 23:22 < Sentineo> it makes sense 23:22 < Sentineo> if you have no public IP, publish a hidden service on tor 23:22 < Sentineo> I can try to connect to you there 23:23 <@roasbeef> blyat: the param is --bitcoind.zmqpath= 23:23 <@roasbeef> Beast: have you seen the testnet faucet? 23:23 < blyat> roasbeef, thanks! 23:25 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 23:26 <@roasbeef> Beast: atm yes, there's a pr to also specify an address with openchannel, will likely be merged soon 23:27 < Beast> ok thanks! 23:31 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwtuxviubttmzzte] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:33 < Beast> which port is it I should forward to my internal ip? rpcserver? 23:35 < Sentineo> Beast: 9735 23:37 <@roasbeef> rpc is 10009 Beast 23:37 <@roasbeef> gRPC 23:37 <@roasbeef> then there's the rest proxy as well 23:44 < Sentineo> hurah! lnd is syncing finally with neutrino :) 23:44 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:46 < blyat> So it wasn't my zmq, It was trying to connect to testnet on port 18332. I used rpchost to change it to 8332 but now I'm getting "mismatched networks". I'm just trying to pull some stats on mainnet, is it possible to do that? 23:46 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 23:49 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd