--- Day changed Sat Jan 20 2018 00:01 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-24-193-56-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 00:02 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:02 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@ip4d15f83e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 00:02 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@ip4d15f83e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:02 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 00:19 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:cfb:9a7d:4a40:17b9] has joined #lnd 00:19 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@2a02:810c:c7c0:1965:cfb:9a7d:4a40:17b9] has quit [Changing host] 00:19 -!- YungMoonHodler_ [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined #lnd 00:22 -!- YungMoonHodler [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:42 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 00:43 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-avmmqdugmytlxuod] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:46 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 00:53 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54 -!- a87ry5_ [~a87ry5@82.102.31.40] has joined #lnd 00:54 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- a87ry5 [~a87ry5@cpe-24-193-56-83.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:59 -!- a87ry5_ [~a87ry5@82.102.31.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:17 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@179.43.188.202] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:18 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@ip4d16c34a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 01:22 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@ip4d16c34a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:39 -!- Bioflap [~Bioflap@541FEC1A.cm-5-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:42 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-swfwxiyzkvjozmqq] has joined #lnd 01:49 < lightningbot1> SpoeklplumpeN, if they broadcast an older state, you’re entitled to sweep all funds in the channel however you want. you can bleed fees from the offending party’s remaining balance using RBF to increase priority of your sweep txn 01:53 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:54 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 01:59 < SpoekplumpeN> lightningbot1: Right, what I'm thinking about is if the base layer is congested and both our tx:s end up in the mempool, the most recent (honest) one with a higher fee it should be picked up first. Is there a posibility that a dishonest miner picks up the older (dishonest) tx first? Or is this tx invalid until the timelock (grace period) runs out? 01:59 < SpoekplumpeN> its a fringe scenario ofcourse, just spending some time thinking on ln 02:06 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 02:13 < melvster> hmm 02:13 < melvster> E: Unable to locate package golang-1.8-go 02:13 < melvster> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'golang-1.8-go' 02:14 < lightningbot1> SpoekplumpeN, the older one is intended to be mined before you can sweep the funds. whenever you broadcast a state, your funds are timlocked to allow the other party to contest. so the ordering is predefined, so long as your sweep txn confirms before the timelock expires 02:18 < SpoekplumpeN> So the grace period starts when the faulty tx is mined, not when it's broadcasted? 02:19 < SpoekplumpeN> I think I misunderstood your wording 02:22 < SpoekplumpeN> the problem I'm thinking about is a full blockchain and you for example choose a too low tx so the time lock period runs out and both txs are in the mempool in a none-timelocked state. The honest tx should still get mined first since you can choose a higher fee on it then the dishonest tx, but miners dont have to mine the highest fee tx 02:22 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:22 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lnd 02:34 < SpoekplumpeN> So I have another question, if Alice routes a payment to me through Bob and I want to bring these funds to the blockchain. I need to close my channel with Bob? If Alice closes her channel to Bob what happends? 02:40 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 02:48 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:8177:e082:c448:4dfd] has joined #lnd 02:55 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:09 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 03:11 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:14 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:14 < melvster> any tips for : 2018-01-20 11:14:16.045 [INF] LTND: Waiting for wallet encryption password. Use `lncli create` to create wallet, or `lncli unlock` to unlock already created wallet. 03:16 -!- Kinetic [5517a357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.23.163.87] has joined #lnd 03:20 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 03:21 < Kinetic> I'm trying to connect to the lightning.community faucet using lncli, but I'm getting a read tcp i/o timeout error. Any suggestions? Running windows 7 03:22 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:23 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 03:24 < Kinetic> Nevermind, it resolved on its own with retry 03:30 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:31 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 03:31 < Veggen> melvster: Did you do an lncli create before? 03:32 < Veggen> I'm guessing no. So, just do an "lncli create" and create a password. this is to create the internal wallet of LND. 03:50 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:55 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 03:56 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 03:57 < spudowiar> Under what circumstances are nodes removed from the topology graph? 04:04 < melvster> Veggen, no i havent, but there didnt seem to be instruction in https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 04:04 < melvster> [lncli] rpc error: code = Unavailable desc = grpc: the connection is unavailable 04:05 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 04:05 < spudowiar> @justin Node is down 04:05 < melvster> when i tried lncli create 04:07 < melvster> i guess it's looking for the rpc server 04:07 < melvster> should be on the default port 04:07 < spudowiar> melvster: What are the last few lines of lnd? 04:07 < spudowiar> (the output) 04:07 < melvster> oic i have to run bot - doh! 04:08 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 04:09 < melvster> ok that worked 04:09 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 04:10 < melvster> ^[[18~2018-01-20 12:09:53.700 [INF] LNWL: Opened wallet 04:10 < melvster> panic: runtime error: index out of range 04:10 < melvster> goroutine 60 [running]: 04:10 < melvster> github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/lightninglabs/gozmq.connFromAddr(0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0) 04:10 < melvster> /home/pi/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/lightninglabs/gozmq/zmq.go:286 +0x380 04:11 < melvster> github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/lightninglabs/gozmq.Subscribe(0x0, 0x0, 0x111f7f48, 0x2, 0x2, 0x5f5e100, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0) 04:11 < melvster> /home/pi/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/lightninglabs/gozmq/zmq.go:312 +0x24 04:11 < melvster> github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcwallet/chain.(*BitcoindClient).socketHandler(0x11194e10) 04:11 < melvster> /home/pi/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcwallet/chain/bitcoind.go:516 +0x94 04:11 < melvster> created by github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcwallet/chain.(*BitcoindClient).Start 04:11 < melvster> /home/pi/gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcwallet/chain/bitcoind.go:368 +0x138 04:21 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:32 < melvster> some progress at least! 04:39 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:39 < melvster> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/621 04:39 < melvster> ah 04:43 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45 < melvster> getting closer ... 04:48 < waxwing> melvster, pls use pastebin for stack traces 04:55 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 04:56 < spudowiar> Right, I managed to open another channel from my TREZOR (on simnet, will try testnet shortly) 04:57 < spudowiar> In other news, I hate JavaScript 04:58 < spudowiar> Well, all dynamically typed languages :P 04:59 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:59 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 04:59 < mlz> we need a bot in here to kick flooders 05:01 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Client Quit] 05:01 < mlz> spudowiar, woha... is your trezor used as an lnd wallet? 05:06 < spudowiar> mlz: Just funding channels 05:08 < Veggen> spudowiar: ah...you sign an unsigned tx with it? 05:09 < Veggen> but - how can your node close a channel without trezor available? 05:09 < spudowiar> Veggen: The node controls the private keys to the channel 05:09 < spudowiar> Veggen: The TREZOR just funds the channel 05:09 < spudowiar> It's not that interesting to be honest :P 05:09 < Veggen> sure...but a closing tx is also a blockchain transaction? 05:10 < spudowiar> Veggen: Yeah, but the private keys are then controlled by the node 05:10 < spudowiar> All this does is turns TREZOR -> lnwallet -> channel creation into TREZOR -> channel creation 05:10 < Veggen> oh. That's nice. 05:10 < spudowiar> channel creation still uses keys from lnwallet 05:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] evilmrburns opened pull request #644: Add Gopher 1.8 repo to installation instructions (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vNzbe 05:11 < Veggen> this means you can actually fund a node from a hardware wallet? 05:12 < Veggen> spudowiar: if a channel is closed, where do the remaining funds end? In LND? 05:12 < spudowiar> Veggen: Yes 05:12 < Veggen> or can you get it sent directly to your hardware wallet? 05:12 < spudowiar> Veggen: You can do that as well 05:12 < spudowiar> (lnd can send funds to any address, anyway) 05:12 < Veggen> need to play with this. 05:13 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:13 < spudowiar> I broke the Socket.io in my Lightning explorer :( 05:14 < Veggen> could you create a funding transaction in a way that guaranteed the closing tx sent the funds to the hardware wallet? 05:14 < spudowiar> Not as far as I know 05:14 < Veggen> that would actually take away some of the security risks. 05:14 < spudowiar> Wouldn't provide much security anyway (the node could just send all the money to the other party) 05:14 < Veggen> ...sure. 05:14 < Veggen> I guess. 05:15 < Veggen> ;) 05:15 < spudowiar> Well, the attacker can just send it to their own node as long as there is a route :P 05:15 < Veggen> yah, I relized. 05:15 < Veggen> realized. 05:16 -!- sdfgsdfg [~fgfsdfgsd@58.84.104.182] has joined #lnd 05:16 -!- sdfgsdfg [~fgfsdfgsd@58.84.104.182] has quit [Changing host] 05:16 -!- sdfgsdfg [~fgfsdfgsd@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has joined #lnd 05:18 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:23 < mlz> eh.. that's no big deal, spudowiar 05:23 < mlz> here i was thinking maybe you could figure out how to get trezor to replace lndwallet 05:24 < spudowiar> mlz: That's why I said, it's not very interesting :) 05:24 < mlz> yea :D 05:25 < Veggen> Now, if you... 05:25 < Veggen> 1) Could create a channel in such a way that the closing tx has to send remains to hardware wallet... 05:26 -!- AT_ [bee12553@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.225.37.83] has joined #lnd 05:26 < Veggen> 2) Have a guaranteed 2FA on *sending* funds directly from LND.. 05:26 < Veggen> (routing, you should of course still be able to do) 05:27 < Veggen> that would have been a bit more interesting? 05:27 < AT_> Hi, I am trying to get into running a lightning node on GCP 05:27 < Veggen> GCP? 05:27 < AT_> google cloud platform 05:27 -!- mebel [6d51d0f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.81.208.245] has joined #lnd 05:28 < Veggen> ah. 05:28 < mebel> hi 05:28 < mebel> so, is LN workign already? 05:28 < AT_> I have to use the $300 but I am wondering if I can just use the container engine 05:28 < mebel> Do I have to download some client? 05:28 < mebel> Can I even test it? 05:28 < AT_> or I have to instance a full VM 05:28 < Veggen> mebel: working but not recommended for main net. There is a testnet. 05:29 < mebel> how can I use the testnet? 05:29 < spudowiar> Right, I fixed the Socket.io 05:29 < mebel> is there some special wallet software? 05:29 < spudowiar> So I just need to draw this on the world map 05:29 < spudowiar> And I have a neat mainnet Lightning graph like ACINQ's 05:29 < spudowiar> And it updates live :) 05:29 < Veggen> mebel: Sounds like you just want to test doing lightning payments? 05:30 < Veggen> mebel: Do you have an android phone? 05:30 < mebel> is there something else I can test? 05:30 < mebel> yes 05:30 < Veggen> try the eclair wallet. download that. 05:30 < mebel> thanks 05:30 < AT_> https://cloud.google.com/kubernetes-engine/ 05:30 < mebel> any linux desktop wallets by chance? :D 05:31 < Veggen> then go to https://testnet.manu.backend.hamburg/faucet and get them to send you some test coins :) 05:31 < mebel> okay, thanks! 05:31 < Veggen> eclair desktop wallet is java based. 05:31 < AT_> or https://cloud.google.com/compute/ 05:31 < mebel> why using testnet is not recommended yet? 05:31 < Veggen> should work on linux, but I have problems running it, it could be that I need an Oracle java. 05:32 < Veggen> mebel: Not recommended yet for production. 05:32 < mebel> this one? https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair 05:32 < mebel> sorry I meant mainnet 05:32 < mebel> I heard peopel already buy things with LN 05:32 < spudowiar> They are reckless idiots :P 05:33 < Veggen> it's a bit risky. 05:33 < Veggen> And it's a distraction from getting it production ready if developers have to support them :) 05:33 < Veggen> mebel: that one, yes. 05:34 < mebel> I will need to run a full bitcoin node, right? 05:35 < mebel> my hdd is full dammit :D 05:35 < Veggen> eclair, not sure. 05:35 < spudowiar> You can use lnd without a full node 05:35 < Veggen> but the testnet blockchain is only around 15GB now anyways. 05:38 < spudowiar> 25G with txindex 05:38 < spudowiar> (which is required) 05:38 < mebel> It says I need to run bitcoin core 05:40 < spudowiar> Well, you're using Eclair, I'm using lnd :) 05:40 < spudowiar> lnd can run in light client mode 05:40 < rabidus> is there gui client for windows? 05:40 < rabidus> .. that works on mainnet 05:43 < mebel> where can I download lnd 05:43 < mebel> ? 05:43 < mebel> ahh 05:43 < mebel> right 05:43 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:45 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:46 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:46 < mebel> dammit, It's too hard for me 05:46 < mebel> I'm so confused 05:47 < mebel> I guess I'll wait for more user-friendly implementations 05:47 < mebel> I get errors all over the screen :( 05:47 < mebel> keep up the good work! 05:47 < mebel> thank you for what you're doing anyway 05:47 -!- mebel [6d51d0f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.81.208.245] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:48 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 05:49 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:53 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:55 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:57 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:58 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 05:59 < melvster> waxwing, thanks for the tip, will do! 06:01 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:05 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:06 -!- AT_ [bee12553@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.225.37.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:08 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:10 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:12 < sdfgsdfg> hey guys the release is really close 06:12 < sdfgsdfg> mainnet coming !! 06:12 < sdfgsdfg> ITS COMING ! 06:12 < sdfgsdfg> ROASTBEEF HAS AN INTERVIEW NEXT WEEK 06:12 < sdfgsdfg> ITS FINALLY HERE 06:13 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:14 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:14 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Client Quit] 06:19 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@ip4d16c34a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lnd 06:19 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:20 -!- sous [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has joined #lnd 06:21 -!- bitconto_ [~bitconto@31.7.63.198] has joined #lnd 06:21 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:23 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@ip4d16c34a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:26 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:32 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 06:35 < Veggen> I believe the release is closer than the doubters say, but I'd be very surprised if it released a beta within a month. Positive surprise, I'd say. But there *is* still work to do :) 06:42 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 06:45 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:47 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:53 < sdfgsdfg> thats true 06:53 < sdfgsdfg> but nothing we can't accomplish 06:53 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 06:53 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:55 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:55 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:57 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 06:58 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:59 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:00 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:00 < Veggen> true. 07:02 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:05 -!- asdfasdf [6de17643@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.225.118.67] has joined #lnd 07:08 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:08 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:08 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 07:11 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:11 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:13 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:13 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:16 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:19 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:20 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:20 -!- ajph_ [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has joined #lnd 07:22 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:23 -!- ajph__ [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has joined #lnd 07:24 -!- ajph [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 07:25 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 07:26 -!- ajph_ [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:28 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:29 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:30 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 07:32 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Client Quit] 07:32 -!- ajph__ [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 07:33 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-swfwxiyzkvjozmqq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:40 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 07:40 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41 -!- Kinetic [5517a357@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.23.163.87] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:44 -!- ajph [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has joined #lnd 07:45 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 07:45 -!- ajph [~ajph@unaffiliated/ajph] has quit [Client Quit] 07:46 < mlz> everyone needs to calm the fuck down about mainnet 07:47 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:47 < mlz> this mainnet PR stunt is doing more harm than good 07:48 -!- asdfasdf [6de17643@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.225.118.67] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:48 < Veggen> It *might* become a PR-success, but in reality the harm of waiting a bit is small. 07:48 < Veggen> And the risk of PR-failure is high. 07:49 < cjd[m]1> What exactly happened ? someone went on the radio and talked about it ? 07:50 < mlz> it's attracting a bunch of noobs on several forums that i've seen, people who never wanted to lift their fingers to test LN on testnet but oh now.. they want YOU to help them set up a node on fcking mainnet 07:50 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 07:50 < Veggen> cjd: reddit etc. 07:51 < cjd[m]1> gotchya 07:51 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 07:53 < mlz> what the devs are concerned is someone might lose money and learns nothing how to run a LN node 07:54 < Veggen> yah. Their risk, but PR-wise a failure. 07:54 < mlz> yea, and it's been a distraction 07:55 < mlz> i've seen noobs who have never run a bitcoin node, so it's like at the bottom of the basics... they just have no clue even how bitcoin works 07:57 < Veggen> mm. 07:58 < Veggen> so..a "task-force" to take load off developers, educational wise? 07:58 < mlz> Veggen, and you'll waste your time, with no pay 07:59 < mlz> i've done it, i'm done 07:59 < Veggen> I don't mind educating some people about the risks at this time, and I do whenever I see it. But should some of us non-developers actually step up here? 07:59 < Veggen> yah. see what you say. 07:59 < mlz> i don't mind to help people like on here who have the right motive and eager to learn and can learn fast 07:59 < Veggen> exactly. 08:00 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:01 < mlz> there's no shortcut for this right now because the software is still in alpha, but we've got noobs who want to know how they can run a node without learning the steps 08:01 < mlz> this is on another forum 08:05 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:09 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:31 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:31 -!- tester123 [d5953e71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.149.62.113] has joined #lnd 08:33 -!- tester123 [d5953e71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.149.62.113] has quit [Client Quit] 08:34 < maret> Out of curiosity why it takes so long to sync nodes? It's basicaly that the node have to verify hashes for blocks and transactions in them? 08:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:46 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 08:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:53 < Veggen> yes. 08:54 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:59 -!- sdfgsdfg [~fgfsdfgsd@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:04 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:05 < spudowiar> Hmm 09:05 < spudowiar> Why does my graph have more channels than lnd says it knows of 09:07 < spudowiar> `lncli getnetworkinfo | jq .num_channels` gives 3892 09:07 < spudowiar> `lncli describegraph | jq ".edges | length"` gives 3924 09:09 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:11 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:12 < troed> on the topic of testnet vs mainnet. disregarding reckless monetary risks, is there a testing reason why one would be preferable? (for someone who does know how things work and is able to report accurately) 09:13 < Veggen> troed: There is a need of testing on mainnet, this is why it's done by some developers now. 09:14 < Veggen> but for learning how to do things, i.e. if you have no clear idea of what specifically you are testing, stick to testnet. 09:15 < Veggen> the reason are twofold: Losting testnet coins, developers that get your bug report does not get the "oh my god, he lost money!"-element in your bug report, it's simply a bug report, you need to fix the bug but getting back the money is of no importance. 09:16 < Veggen> Second reason: Bad PR if money are lost. 09:16 < troed> well, I have no need for my own learning, it's more what would help with testing the most. I.e, best use of my own input. Don't care about the monetary aspect (if it's my own funds) and there won't be any PR if so ;) 09:17 < Veggen> testing on testnet is just as valuable, and noone will feel the obligation or weight of getting your money back. 09:17 < troed> ok, thanks for the feedback! 09:17 < Veggen> even if you don't care, it will put an unneccesary pressure on developers. 09:20 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 09:23 -!- tomichec [~pi@ip-86-49-244-108.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 09:25 -!- sous [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:37 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 09:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 09:49 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:55 < lndbot> @Veggen how does one use Trezor to fund a channel open? 09:55 < lndbot> My current process on lnd is to use Trezor to fund my ln wallet 09:55 < lndbot> thennnn I have to wait until those funds confirm 09:55 < lndbot> before opening a channel with them 09:55 < lndbot> would be fantastic to skip the 1st step and use Trezor to open the channel 09:55 < lndbot> 1 less onchain! :) 09:56 < spudowiar> I have a poor man's ACINQ explorer now :P 09:58 < Deelight> it looks like a lot of people are installing nodes for vanity reasons ("how do i go on mainnet?", "how do i set an alias?") 10:04 -!- chatonlinewith [86c40b80@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.196.11.128] has joined #lnd 10:04 < lndbot> yeah, big time 10:05 < lndbot> it's kind of unfortunate that c-lightning is 'mainnet capable' out of the box 10:05 < lndbot> lnd crew was very smart to pull it out and force people to alter source and recompile 10:05 < lndbot> just that alone keeps probably 95% of the herd out 10:08 < waxwing> lightning has a lot of champagne problems (how do we stop people using our software? how can we handle scaling beyond 10 million users?) 10:08 < spudowiar> waxwing: at the top of INSTALL.md, "sudo rm -rf /" 10:08 < spudowiar> FIXED. 10:08 < AndyS2> where are the problems when we start to approach 10 million users? 10:09 < spudowiar> (btw, don't run that `rm` command!) 10:09 < waxwing> lol i just made that up. problems do start coming in at vast numbers though right. the simplest one is all the funding/closing txs start to stress the base layer 10:10 < waxwing> i have no idea how well the node software would handle *really* large numbers of nodes/channels 10:10 < waxwing> but i guess the base layer/btc chain limits would kick in earlier, once the node software matures. i guess... 10:11 < AndyS2> ah, ok. just wondered if routing tables might become too big or anything like that 10:11 < spudowiar> I wish I knew how to do D3 properly. Then thiis Lightning explorer would actually look nice 10:11 < spudowiar> *this 10:14 < waxwing> spudowiar, have you implemented something yourself? stuff to parse LN messages so you can get a node graph? 10:15 < spudowiar> waxwing: It's just talking to lnd over RPC 10:15 < spudowiar> And streaming it to the browser over Sockets.io 10:15 < spudowiar> Makes a nice world map and plots the nodes and channels 10:15 < waxwing> right, gotcha, so you're trying to do something like the acinq explorer. fun 10:16 < spudowiar> https://i.imgur.com/GBImJXH.jpg 10:16 < spudowiar> I'm going to switch it over to mainnet when btcd is finished 10:17 < waxwing> i got as far as implementing Noise and connecting to my local simnet nodes. implementing parsers for messages is something i might do next to make a "fake" node. just for learning the internals though. 10:17 < spudowiar> I need to get a proper understanding of the actual Lightning network before I can look at the Lightning protocl 10:18 < spudowiar> *protocol 10:18 < waxwing> i'd like to do more useful work (testing PRs), but like a lot of busy projects it's kinda massive and extremely active, not sure what would be most useful 10:18 < spudowiar> yess ^^ 10:19 < waxwing> yeah. for understanding, once you've got the basics down, i think BOLT2 and 3 seem to be most helpful in grokking how it actually translates into software. 10:19 < waxwing> there are some aspects of how the HTLC portion works that i haven't completely got yet. 10:20 < waxwing> would be useful if main software committers could flag PRs and say "these are the ones we really need tested and reviewed" 10:20 < lndbot> hahha champagne problems... i like that 10:21 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Quit: ttfn] 10:22 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has joined #lnd 10:22 < waxwing> spudowiar, nice pic :) 10:23 < spudowiar> It's live updating as well :) 10:23 < spudowiar> Not that that's very useful 10:23 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 10:25 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lnd 10:28 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:28 < mlz> spudowiar, wow nice image 10:30 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:33 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 10:45 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:56 -!- chatonlinewith [86c40b80@gateway/web/freenode/ip.134.196.11.128] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:56 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 11:00 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 11:00 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@91.141.3.222.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:01 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:02 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:06 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lnd 11:10 -!- rost [9b04f009@gateway/web/freenode/ip.155.4.240.9] has joined #lnd 11:11 -!- rost is now known as Guest24892 11:11 -!- Guest24892 is now known as rrostt 11:16 < achow101> How do I set an alias with LND? 11:19 <@roasbeef> will be able to later toda y 11:19 <@roasbeef> on the confi at least 11:19 <@roasbeef> if you wanna do it now, you can recompile lol 11:19 < achow101> k, thanks 11:20 < lndbot> it's in server.go 11:21 < lndbot> it's really easy 11:21 < lndbot> just search for this 11:21 < lndbot> lias, err := lnwire.NewNodeAlias 11:21 < achow101> yup, found it 11:21 < lndbot> replace the contents of the () with "MyNodeName" 11:21 < lndbot> make sure to remove the import too or recompile will fail 11:21 < lndbot> then redo go install and viola 11:21 < lndbot> cool 11:23 <@roasbeef> melvster: that'll be fixed today 11:23 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: fuk yeh on trezor, was actually gonna ask you if you had started messing around with stuff, if the device is stateful, there's a TON that can be done 11:24 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: is it the funding, or also channel updates/ 11:24 <@roasbeef> ? 11:25 <@roasbeef> sdfgsdfg: what interview? also not "t" m8 11:26 < spudowiar> roasbeef: Currently just funding 11:26 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: hmm accounting error somewhere there? w.r.t chans vs network info? or actually I think getnetworkinfo skips some classes of channels, those which aren't fully ann'd 11:26 < spudowiar> roasbeef: Some of the channels reference nodes that aren't in the graph 11:26 < spudowiar> If you take those channels out, the numbers are the same 11:28 <@roasbeef> waxwing: great feedback, have been deep in some changes lately, but nearly done there, so can get back to cleanning up the set of issues, labelling, etc 11:28 <@roasbeef> lol @ champagne problems 11:29 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: if they aren't in the graph, then means we don't have a "full" ann for them, we create a dummy node when we get proper chan anns, but we don't get a full one until that's advertised 11:29 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: cool, commitment signing would be cool too 11:29 <@roasbeef> if needs to be stateful for that though 11:29 <@roasbeef> i remember talking about this with the ledger peeps a bit back 11:30 <@roasbeef> as far as the wear on the memory, how many writes it could surviv etc, but you prob know way more about their arch than I do :) 11:32 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 11:33 <@roasbeef> spudowiar: did you do it via waddrmgr? or just proxied calls? 11:34 <@roasbeef> lol so many nodes, and only 65 reachable from my crawler on testnet 11:34 <@roasbeef> need to get that nat stuff in 11:34 <@roasbeef> some activity on the PR earlier, so that's nice 11:37 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:42 < spudowiar> roasbeef: Regarding flash write limits, there's about 11.75 KiB of space free. So you don't have to do an erase until you've used up all that space. 11:42 <@roasbeef> how manby writes can i do? how fast is each write? is it writen to redundant cells? 11:43 < spudowiar> So, there are about a minimum 10000 erase cycles according to ST. You can store (11.75 * 1024 / 32 = 376) hashes per erase cycle. 11:43 < spudowiar> So that's 3760000 hashes :P 11:44 < spudowiar> Write speed is negligible 11:45 -!- bitconto_ [~bitconto@31.7.63.198] has quit [] 11:47 <@roasbeef> i need to write 48 bytes once, then 64 bytes continually 11:47 <@roasbeef> for the basic version 11:48 <@roasbeef> for the more advanced version it's a tuple with more data 11:48 <@roasbeef> ST? 11:49 < Veggen> roasbeef: btw, how will I know which updates breaks the DB? it's a pita not updating every other day, but I'm not gonna close my channels every day :) 11:49 <@roasbeef> Veggen: i'll give a shout 11:49 < Veggen> I botched the last one, that's why I ask :) 11:49 < Veggen> I think the git commit should have it more prominent :) 11:49 <@roasbeef> there's a way we can set the build flags to list the commit 11:54 -!- centaur [62e74a5d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.74.93] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:05 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jubgyhopsuzuzgmy] has joined #lnd 12:05 -!- btc [60258256@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.37.130.86] has joined #lnd 12:06 -!- btc is now known as Guest64737 12:08 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:21 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:27 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:5860:2ca6:ee28:6510] has joined #lnd 12:42 -!- BladeMcCool_ is now known as blademccool 12:47 -!- tbltzk [~tbltzk@x4db5a122.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 12:47 -!- Guest64737 [60258256@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.37.130.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:33 -!- sergio_ [53653553@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.101.53.83] has joined #lnd 13:33 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 13:41 < melvster> roasbeef, awesome thanks! 13:41 < melvster> btw im trying to talk to the bsafe network people of how we can get more involved 13:42 < melvster> in this case MIT csail and MIT media lab, and maybe some folks from Oxford, let's see 13:43 <@roasbeef> bsafe? 13:43 <@roasbeef> for what 13:43 < melvster> roasbeef, aren't they doing lightning stuff? 13:44 <@roasbeef> no? 13:44 < melvster> roasbeef, https://www.coindesk.com/battle-testing-lightning-26-schools-start-contest-secure-bitcoins-layer-2/ 13:44 < melvster> this? 13:45 <@roasbeef> hmm, don't really see what they're going after 13:45 < melvster> well, ill find out ... only just read this 13:45 <@roasbeef> it's not as if we don't have existing designs, and even future designs 13:45 < melvster> ok! 13:45 <@roasbeef> if they're doing some sort of competeition, imo it should be for a dynamic block size 13:45 < melvster> if you're interested at all in the semantic web, I can help :) 13:47 -!- faboose [4752ddc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.82.221.193] has joined #lnd 13:47 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:48 <@roasbeef> it could be cool tho, many of us have future designs in mind, but are busy building atm 13:48 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has joined #lnd 13:48 < ctrlbreak> Hallllloooo 13:48 <@roasbeef> also keeping in mind that some future designs may require soft-fors 13:48 < ctrlbreak> stupid question I can't seem to find the answer to; 13:49 < ctrlbreak> How can I get LND to refresh my URI? I've changed the TCP port for peer connections in lnd.conf... but it's not being reflected on daemon restart? 13:49 < faboose> has anyone here ever connect lnd from a VM to bitcoind running on the host machine for said vm? 13:49 < melvster> roasbeef, know the feeling! :D 13:50 < lndbot> It looks like their competition is to find flaws/attack vectors 13:51 < ctrlbreak> anyone? 13:52 <@roasbeef> ctrlbreak: there's a PR open to fix that (if you mean the uri field in getinfo) 13:52 < ctrlbreak> AHHHH... cool cool. 13:53 < ctrlbreak> I also noticed I couldn't close a channel gracefully... looks like an issue with endian-ness? https://pastebin.com/xYsQRBgx 13:54 < ctrlbreak> Sorry... I'm super green, but trying to catch up. 13:55 -!- YungMoonHodler_ is now known as YungMoonHodler 13:55 <@roasbeef> > Waiting for confirmation of cooperative close 13:55 <@roasbeef> looks aight 13:55 < ctrlbreak> What about? 2018-01-20 16:12:50.897 [WRN] PEER: unable remove channel link with ChannelPoint(0a9095c4f1d36f523f35a303e7ca0fc05358d4c65183a2eae69187a0406be61c): channel link not found 13:56 < ctrlbreak> Address is backwards? 13:56 < ctrlbreak> NTFN: Dispatching spend notification for outpoint=1ce66b40a08791e6eaa28351c6d45853c00fcae703a3353f526fd3f1c495900a:0 13:56 <@roasbeef> bitcoin does stuff where it reverses the byte order upon display 13:56 < ctrlbreak> Ahhh... my bad. 13:56 < mlz> sup, ctrlbreak 13:56 <@roasbeef> go complaint to satoshi :p 13:56 < ctrlbreak> like I mentioned; am noob. 13:57 <@roasbeef> stuff like that trips up vets even 13:57 < ctrlbreak> mlz, key man! 13:57 < mlz> :D 13:57 < mlz> hey your node is down, force closing all channels 13:57 < ctrlbreak> I've broken my testnet node by trying to switch it to a non-standard peer listener :-( 13:57 <@roasbeef> broken how? 13:58 <@roasbeef> it'll still advertise the new listenin ginterface 13:58 < ctrlbreak> (trying to free up 9735 for eventual mainnet. YOLO!) 13:58 < mlz> ugh 13:58 < ctrlbreak> autopilot not working? 13:58 <@roasbeef> takes a bit to get warmed up sometimes 13:58 < ctrlbreak> Assumed it was because it was using the previous URI. 13:59 <@roasbeef> uri is just display there, so it's a cosmetic bug 13:59 < ctrlbreak> have confirmed it is indeed listening on the alt 8735 as desired... 13:59 < ctrlbreak> ahh... cool just cosmetic. 13:59 <@roasbeef> yee 13:59 < ctrlbreak> I'll try again and see if I can initiate. 14:02 < ctrlbreak> well, I'll be damned... 2 pendings now with autopilot. 14:02 < ctrlbreak> bbiab guys... wife needs somethin' 14:06 -!- scalability-junk [sid6422@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mjyldevcxjgmgulf] has joined #lnd 14:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: fronti, Zouppen, provoostenator, kpcyrd, horlicks 14:06 < faboose> @roastbeef wondering if you could possibly point me in the right direction? I have LND running on a ubuntu VM. Is there a way to point LND to my bitcoind -server running on the windows host? which config file in ~/lnd should I be working with to accomplish this? 14:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: kjellberg 14:07 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ybhbtgmxtwrzucvi] has joined #lnd 14:07 <@roasbeef> faboose: checkout https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md#running-lnd-using-the-bitcoind-backend 14:07 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@2605:e000:1f01:43bf:5860:2ca6:ee28:6510] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:08 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 14:08 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:09 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:09 < faboose> that is where I'm stumped not finding a lnd.conf ... Do I just make one?? the answer is probably yes now that I'm typing it out lol 14:10 <@roasbeef> oh yeh you make one 14:10 <@roasbeef> or you can just pass stuff diretly on the command line as args 14:10 < faboose> right on m8 thanks a ton, overthought that ish lol 14:10 <@roasbeef> heh np :) 14:11 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has joined #lnd 14:12 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lnd 14:12 -!- sergio_ [53653553@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.101.53.83] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:17 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 14:25 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jubgyhopsuzuzgmy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:27 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 14:28 -!- tbltzk [~tbltzk@x4db5a122.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 14:39 -!- faboose [4752ddc1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.82.221.193] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:50 < Veggen> roasbeef: any plans to daemonize lnd properly, soon? 14:57 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58 < Veggen> should really get involved and do that simple stuff myself. 14:59 -!- ninjahamstah [~ninjahams@unaffiliated/ninjamastah] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:59 -!- rompert [sid13298@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hzwzezwakpofwyjr] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:01 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zqrauxenmbmamehj] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:04 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:04 -!- ninjahamstah [~ninjahams@2001:bc8:4400:2800::4b29] has joined #lnd 15:05 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lbnsyqjaujgvitws] has joined #lnd 15:18 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:8177:e082:c448:4dfd] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:28 < ctrlbreak> Can someone attempt to establish a channel with me? 03b0d54ece3b31934a96b8c425aa33759ee9acb876cc9b92bbfe8e1c19af6c11a2@skinneh.is-a-geek.com:8735 15:30 < mlz> ~$ lncli connect 03b0d54ece3b31934a96b8c425aa33759ee9acb876cc9b92bbfe8e1c19af6c11a2@skinneh.is-a-geek.com:8735 15:30 < mlz> { 15:30 < mlz> "peer_id": 0 15:30 < mlz> } 15:31 < ctrlbreak> thanks homie... just saw it scroll by. 15:31 < mlz> oh you said channel, sec 15:33 < ctrlbreak> If I have this working on the alternate port... It should stay up this time :-P 15:35 < mlz> ctrlbreak, i think you have to put "peerport" in lnd.conf right? 15:35 < mlz> peerport=8735 15:36 < ctrlbreak> yuppers... I have. 15:37 < ctrlbreak> tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8735 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 15745/lnd 15:37 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 15:38 < ctrlbreak> I just really wanted to confirm someone could use those coordinates above, and that all my NAT changes were working as expected... (and my previous, and stale URI was in fact, cosmetic in lncli... and wouldn't cause a problem) 15:38 < ctrlbreak> i.e. lncli getinfo still reports: 15:38 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 15:38 < ctrlbreak> "uris": [ 15:38 < ctrlbreak> "03b0d54ece3b31934a96b8c425aa33759ee9acb876cc9b92bbfe8e1c19af6c11a2@47.55.95.227:9735" 15:38 < ctrlbreak> ] 15:39 < ctrlbreak> :-S 15:46 < lndbot> Has anyone seen this error trying to use bitcoind instead of btcd with lnd? 15:46 < lndbot> Cant accept connection: Act One: invalid handshake version: 226, only 0 is valid 15:47 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 15:47 < lndbot> lnd -d=trace --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.mainnet --bitcoin.node=bitcoind --bitcoind.rpcuser=xx --bitcoind.rpcpass=xx --bitcoind.zmqpath=127.0.0.1:29000 --bitcoind.rpchost=127.0.0.1:8332 15:47 < lndbot> ^ trying that 15:50 < mlz> that's mainnet, roasbeef has said no mainnet here 15:54 < lndbot> Right. Has anyone seen this error... on test/sim/anynet? 15:54 < mlz> nope 15:54 < lndbot> btcd keeps crapping out when i have a peer that fails 15:54 < lndbot> so trying out bitcoind as an alternate 15:54 < lndbot> fair enough! 15:57 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 16:03 < Deelight> ctrlbreak: i made a PR for this bug (https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/623) 16:03 < ctrlbreak> mlz, lnd won't function on mainnet yet? 16:04 < Deelight> not sure it's only cosmetic 16:04 < mlz> ctrlbreak, none of the implementations are ready for mainnet 16:04 < ctrlbreak> Deelight, thanks ;-) 16:04 < ctrlbreak> mlz, yes... 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Could they use lighting channels over their phones bluetooth to buy stuff from eachother? 16:50 < onryo1> Then later when in town with internet close the channel? 16:51 < onryo1> mean sort of like a "intranet" 16:51 < lndbot> in theory probably yes 16:51 < lndbot> with neutrino, can run a full node on your phone, so why ot 16:51 < lndbot> *not 16:51 < onryo1> Think about what that would do for the 3ed world 16:52 < lndbot> would just want to set their csv way way high to make sure it took let's say 3 days if someone tried to --force close them 16:54 < onryo1> yeah but having a csv set for say the 1st of every month would not be hard to do would it? 16:54 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 16:55 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55 -!- rompert [sid13298@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vnqdwmyldflzktmh] has joined #lnd 16:56 < lndbot> not at all, but can 'people in the bush' afford to wait that long? 16:56 < lndbot> it cuts both ways i guess 16:56 < lndbot> if they can sometimes go for days at a time w/o internet access 16:56 < lndbot> it protects them from counterparty foolery 16:56 < lndbot> but if they need the cash like right now 16:56 < lndbot> it hurts 16:58 < onryo1> Most of these places are villages with one market. Guess the "cash" would be in the channels that just got passed around. lol kinda like a wall street. 17:00 < lndbot> yeah and onchain is proof of ownership essentially 17:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 17:06 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 < onryo1> There was some apt that make huge networks over bluetooth a few years back that pro-democracy protesters were using in Hong Kong... 17:11 < onryo1> could maybe have something like with with lightning chanels 17:11 < onryo1> https://www.wired.com/2015/10/giant-network-for-free-messaging/ 17:16 < onryo1> roasbeef, what says you ... possible? 17:40 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 17:41 <@roasbeef> Veggen: no plans to do that, it's up to the user 17:42 <@roasbeef> onryo1: yeh totally possible, would be dope 17:42 <@roasbeef> open garden is actually doing some ICO thingy now afaik 17:42 <@roasbeef> they call it "OG" lol 17:43 <@roasbeef> would've picked a diff name myself... 17:45 < onryo1> roasbeef, seriously something like this could really make a difference to people that need it the most. Was just thinking about the implications. 18:23 -!- itsFLIPPENING [1854b076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.176.118] has joined #lnd 18:27 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:28 -!- itsFLIPPENING [1854b076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.176.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:29 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:35 -!- onryo1 [~holyfathe@91.90.44.24] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:40 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:40 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 19:43 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:49 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 20:00 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@114.188.236.55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:05 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Quit: ttfn] 20:07 -!- B0g4r7 [nobody@208.76.201.166] has joined #lnd 20:16 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fptauudtmqyugikn] has joined #lnd 20:21 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 20:50 < mlz> if you guys need a site on tesnet to play with, go to Elaine's store: https://twitter.com/eiaine/status/954910024584720384 20:57 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #lnd 21:07 < mlz> hey I just paid for this tweet! https://twitter.com/lightningb0t/status/954943289173663745 21:07 < mlz> lol 21:14 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 21:33 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:36 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:38 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:40 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 21:44 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:44 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 21:45 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 21:46 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:50 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:52 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:56 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:56 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 21:58 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Client Quit] 22:00 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 22:05 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 22:09 < waxwing> mlz, cool 22:10 < mlz> waxwing, do you think people would pay real btc for tweets? 22:12 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:12 < waxwing> https://twitter.com/lightningb0t/status/954875683653799936 lol 22:13 < waxwing> mlz, sure why not. don't think that kind of stuff is a business model though, if that's what you mean 22:13 < mlz> yea 22:17 < lndbot> I just paid for a tweet as well, not sure yet if related but my lnd crashed for the first time in a week. 22:24 -!- bitconto [~bitconto@141.255.166.214] has joined #lnd 22:33 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:33 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 22:39 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 22:40 < lndbot> It doesn't look like lnd crashed 22:40 < lndbot> it just looks like your payinvoice failed 22:40 < lndbot> can you confirm? 22:42 < lndbot> lnd wasn't running anymore and it also lost the rpc connection to btcd 22:43 < lndbot> the invoice was actually paid 22:43 < lndbot> the tweet went out 22:44 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 22:45 -!- sdfgsdfg [~fgfsdfgsd@58.84.104.182] has joined #lnd 22:45 < lndbot> Okay let's back up 22:46 < lndbot> what's the actual problem? 22:46 < lndbot> payment requested 22:46 < lndbot> payment sent 22:46 < lndbot> payment confirmed 22:46 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fptauudtmqyugikn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:46 < lndbot> Command sent from Slack by branden.hughes: 22:46 < lndbot> ...then *boom* 22:46 < lndbot> ? 22:46 < lndbot> yes 22:46 < lndbot> lol 22:46 < lndbot> testnet? 22:46 < lndbot> yes 22:47 < lndbot> k one sec 22:48 < lndbot> did you get a preimage on your payment? 22:48 < lndbot> I have to see if I find something in the log 22:49 < lndbot> I don't think your payment went through 22:49 < lndbot> Do you know the peer? 22:49 < lndbot> Can you double check remote and local balance? 22:49 < lndbot> 2018-01-21 00:58:26.072 [INF] HSWC: Sent 0 satoshis received 0 satoshis in the last 10 seconds (0.3 tx/sec) 22:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 22:52 < lndbot> my testnet node (021f88ad5e42dc80024e6c8bc968e49ddda4fa4631b97e0b961ae996f69c6b79e9) currently only has one open channel with (03f113414ebdc6c1fb0f33c99cd5a1d09dd79e7fdf2468cf1fe1af6674361695d2), the channel ID is 7999a33c5ec6a9441d60b807ff1c7d99e0922d149e72d6cfa88f9a546a9ef6ce:1 and yes strange it does not look like the balances changed 22:52 < lndbot> so I scammed Elaines twitter bot and got the service for free 22:53 < lndbot> her shop confirmed that the invoice was paid 22:53 < lndbot> Her shop endpoint failed, 0 satoshi were sent successfully 22:53 < lndbot> Interesting 22:53 < lndbot> I bet it's channel liquidity 22:54 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 22:55 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 22:55 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 22:59 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:59 < lndbot> one sec let me re-sync with testnet 22:59 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:00 < lndbot> what's your pubkey + ip? 23:01 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:01 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:03 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:03 < lndbot> 021f88ad5e42dc80024e6c8bc968e49ddda4fa4631b97e0b961ae996f69c6b79e9@155.94.181.232:9735 23:04 < lndbot> still syncing 23:05 < lndbot> I intentionally don't have my IP in the conf because I don't want my node to accept new channels, I am testing if that also prevents nodes from connecting to my node that already know my IP or that were connected with my node before. 23:06 < lndbot> After testing autopilot and having many channels, what I have been doing is testing how to wind down the node and get all funds out :slightly_smiling_face: 23:07 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08 < lndbot> Yeah, I don't either, but I've been fine peering with many others 23:08 < lndbot> Let's see what I see once I sync 23:08 < lndbot> geez testnet gone crazy 23:08 < lndbot> so big now 23:08 < lndbot> blah 23:08 < lndbot> Zzz 23:08 < lndbot> I tried to open a channel with my node from eclair (Android) and its not working so I suppose not advertising the IP is enough to stop nodes from connecting with my node. 23:08 < lndbot> Shouldn't be 23:08 < lndbot> if so that's an eclair issue 23:09 < lndbot> ok lets see once you are synced if you can connect to my node and open a channel 23:09 < lndbot> gawd still sync'n 23:09 < lndbot> yep 23:09 < lndbot> if you can, then I'd like to find out how to stop it lol 23:09 < lndbot> "block_height": 1080007, 23:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tehrcxmpggddxrlo] has joined #lnd 23:10 < lndbot> hahha yeah we can prob do that 23:10 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:11 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@i114-188-236-55.s41.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13 < lndbot> hmm it's hanging even trying to peer with you rn 23:13 < lndbot> what is your node? 23:13 < lndbot> lncli connect 021f88ad5e42dc80024e6c8bc968e49ddda4fa4631b97e0b961ae996f69c6b79e9@155.94.181.232:9735 [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = dial tcp 155.94.181.232:9735: getsockopt: operation timed out 23:14 < lndbot> 0220b3d81b00a4eda70c47ded89ee0cddbba7f98ab7970755ba9e9e5ce8ab80a17@73.7.41.131:9735 23:14 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17 < lndbot> If I don't set -externalip does is prevent nodes from connecting with my node, or does it prevent them from opening a channel 23:18 < mlz> the former 23:18 < lndbot> guess if they can't connect they also can't open channels so both 23:19 < lndbot> strange though, that even after I closed all but one connection yesterday, today I have many peers again 23:20 < lndbot> peers != channels 23:20 < lndbot> but you do have to peer before opening a channel 23:21 < lndbot> yes I know 23:21 < lndbot> I still can't connect to you for whatever reason 23:21 < lndbot> I closed connections with all but one peer yesterday 23:21 < lndbot> and I stopped advertising my Ip 23:22 < lndbot> but I still got many peers connecting to me again 23:22 < mlz> dlog you still can connect to other nodes that have their ports opened 23:22 < lndbot> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/00-introduction.md 23:23 < lndbot> I'm going to guess it's expected behavior based on bolt 02/03 23:23 < lndbot> but I'm not a protocol engineer 23:24 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:24 < lndbot> @dlog in any case, if I can't peer with you, not sure I can help debug 23:25 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:27 < lndbot> lncli connect 0220b3d81b00a4eda70c47ded89ee0cddbba7f98ab7970755ba9e9e5ce8ab80a17@73.7.41.131:9735 [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = connection attempt to 0220b3d81b00a4eda70c47ded89ee0cddbba7f98ab7970755ba9e9e5ce8ab80a17@73.7.41.131:9735 is pending 23:28 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:28 < lndbot> We're yin and yang apparently 23:29 < lndbot> Give me any other peer pubkey + ip that you're connected to 23:30 < lndbot> lncli connect 021f88ad5e42dc80024e6c8bc968e49ddda4fa4631b97e0b961ae996f69c6b79e9@155.94.181.232:9735 [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = dial tcp 155.94.181.232:9735: getsockopt: operation timed out 23:31 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32 -!- zshlyk [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 23:33 < lndbot> I'm connected to 03f113414ebdc6c1fb0f33c99cd5a1d09dd79e7fdf2468cf1fe1af6674361695d2 23:33 < lndbot> ip? 23:33 < lndbot> lncli getnodeinfo 23:33 < lndbot> 5.102.147.62:9735 23:34 < lndbot> got them instantly 23:34 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:37 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 23:38 -!- daouzo235 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 23:40 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:41 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@178.115.129.163.wireless.dyn.drei.com] has joined #lnd 23:43 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:45 -!- ls64 [~ls64@S0106a84e3fe5f3b3.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #lnd 23:46 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:49 -!- erols [~erols@dhcp-077-251-249-036.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 23:50 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:51 < erols> hi - how can I add an alias to my lnd node? 23:52 < lndbot> edit server.go 23:52 < lndbot> and recompile 23:52 < lndbot> be sure to remove the import library too or it'll fail 23:52 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:52 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has joined #lnd 23:53 < erols> tthanks! 23:54 < lndbot> :slightly_smiling_face: 23:56 -!- danielaof [~danielaof@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]