--- Day changed Wed Jan 24 2018 00:13 -!- sdfdssdf [~sdfgsdfg@60-241-56-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #lnd 00:17 -!- sdfgsdf [~sdfgsdfg@60-240-86-144.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:18 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 < fronti> just a question to lnd and transaction fees for the tx to open a channel. is there a way to define this with maybe a maximum amount (SAT/KB) lnd should use to open or update a channel? 00:41 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 00:43 < Veggen> there is optional arguments for it. 00:43 < Veggen> lncli openchannel without arguments to see the full syntax. 00:43 < Veggen> (not sure wht actually works or not ;) 00:45 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:46 < fronti> thanks.. i'm thinking on this as I run at the moment in autopliot and like not to have eaten the walletbalance from fees with automated generated channels (as long as in testnet its fine sure) 01:00 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 01:03 -!- whphhg_ [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 01:04 < stevenroose> roasbeef: yeah bumped into that. I thought it was because I had a free student-license at that time. Didn't retry since. Enterprise (aka organizations) repos should be able to do that. 01:04 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:08 -!- whphhg_ is now known as whphhg 01:09 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 01:12 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:14 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 01:47 -!- legonina [5432c518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.50.197.24] has joined #lnd 01:54 -!- legonina [5432c518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.50.197.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:57 -!- sour [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has joined #lnd 01:58 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:b840:13c0:9d69:fbae] has joined #lnd 01:58 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:b840:13c0:9d69:fbae] has quit [Client Quit] 02:00 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:b840:13c0:9d69:fbae] has joined #lnd 02:07 -!- fcooker [6d3316f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.51.22.246] has joined #lnd 02:09 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:13 < takinbo> so I'm trying to close all channels so I can upgrade. I co-operatively closed some channels and then had to force close the others. I see under pendingchannels that some of those closures need up to 2016 blocks to mature. Is it safe to delete channels.db and do the upgrade or I have to wait? 02:13 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:13 -!- ciel [7557d1ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.87.209.239] has joined #lnd 02:14 -!- ciel is now known as Guest39562 02:14 -!- Guest39562 [7557d1ef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.87.209.239] has quit [Client Quit] 02:18 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:20 < lndbot> do you still have a channelbalance or is it 0 ? 02:43 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 02:45 -!- creslin_ [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 02:45 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:46 -!- fcooker [6d3316f6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.51.22.246] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:55 -!- wxss [~user@185.145.38.233] has joined #lnd 03:03 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 03:04 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has joined #lnd 03:07 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:16 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51 -!- SpoekplumpeN [c20ecbfe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.14.203.254] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:51 < Veggen> takinbo: Is this testnet, I presume? :) 03:51 < Veggen> I did s you did, no idea if I get back the coins in the force closed channels... 04:08 < takinbo> Veggen: yes, testnet 04:08 -!- whphhg_ [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lnd 04:09 < takinbo> lndbot: there's no channel balance though 04:10 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:25 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hyqmqmuasiekvgsa] has joined #lnd 05:27 -!- devachandra [~devachand@netris.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:30 -!- rafalcpp_ is now known as rafalcpp 05:46 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:48 -!- devachandra [~devachand@netris.ru] has joined #lnd 05:59 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has joined #lnd 06:08 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] MeshCollider opened pull request #666: [WIP] Add Tor Support (master...201801_tor_support_rebased) https://git.io/vNKUW 06:09 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] MeshCollider closed pull request #389: WIP - multi: Added Tor support (master...tor) https://git.io/vdpeE 06:14 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:15 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 06:27 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:30 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 06:32 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 06:40 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:40 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 06:45 -!- alfa [uid11513@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hyqmqmuasiekvgsa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:46 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:46 -!- creslin_ [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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I understand it already, just want friends to. 07:41 < Veggen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrr_zPmEiME ? 07:42 < Veggen> Andreas Antonopoulos has also created a few good vieos. No links at hand now, though. 07:42 < fearlessmew> :thumbsup: 07:46 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has joined #lnd 07:49 -!- sour [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:49 -!- sour [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has joined #lnd 07:56 -!- brocktice [~brock@unaffiliated/brocktice] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 08:07 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 08:18 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 08:24 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 08:27 -!- iateadonut [~dan@222.96.39.245] has joined #lnd 08:33 < iateadonut> this is still on testnet? 08:37 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:40 < cjd[m]1> Yes, some people have started a mainnet network but none of the developers are at all involved in that so they're basically fooling around 08:43 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:43 < iateadonut> that's the best kind of -ing around 08:46 < cjd[m]1> :) 08:53 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:57 < blademccool> i'd like to get it running on mainnet myself for fun. will report back if i make progress. 08:59 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 09:06 < mlz> lol 09:08 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 09:10 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwcabvtkfmybtjpt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:13 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 09:14 < Veggen> blademccool: how many BTC do you plan to lose, in that process? 09:15 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 09:16 < blademccool> Veggen: between ten and fifty bux worth. 09:17 < Veggen> So, you'll not fund any channels with anything more than a couple of bucks? 09:17 -!- jukuli [jrasi@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:18 < vitaminc> slightly off-topic, but when people tweet about mainnet LN, are they being a bit disingenuous? 09:19 < Veggen> vitaminc: It's simply premature. SUre, *some* of the mainnet testing is necessary, but at this time anything but small and controlled tests are just waste. Of BTC, of blockchain space, and of everything. 09:22 -!- flaxscrip [b84bdfeb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.75.223.235] has joined #lnd 09:22 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 09:23 -!- jukuli [jrasi@kapsi.fi] has joined #lnd 09:25 < vitaminc> the @Lightningb0t node appears to be down - anyone know of any other "shops" that i could play with? 09:25 < mlz> you won't get to understand how LN works if you just want to have a node on mainnet.. it would be much more satisfying for you if you play with it on testnet first, get a good grasp of how LN works so when you're on mainnet, if you have an issue, at least you know what it might be 09:26 < Veggen> Also, on testnet you'd not be so afraid of breaking anything. You'd be free to experiment. Lose coins. 09:26 < mlz> exactly 09:26 < mlz> on testnet, you can just wipe, delete, discard, bomb the test coins and not worry 09:26 < Veggen> You'd get a much better grasp and understanding of the tech that way. I have lost coins on testnet twice. 09:27 < vitaminc> i have to say that i consider myself fairly proficient and the LN complexity is mind-boggling, anyone tinkering with it on mainnet is aiming a machine gun at their feet 09:27 < mlz> vitaminc, yup, you're right 09:27 < Veggen> vitaminc: At this point, yes. Though I dare say the progress of the merge 2 days ago looked kind of impressive on the "not losing coins" side of things. 09:28 < vitaminc> which is why i think the "look at my mainnet LN" stuff tweets are a kind of a disservice to the community, but i digress 09:30 < lndbot> i have no problem with people, at their own risk and willingness to lose funds and later deal with breaking code changes, using mainnet 09:30 < lndbot> _after they've also spent a lot of time on testnet_ 09:31 < lndbot> the ones i worry about are the folks jumping in here and immediately asking how to setup on mainnet having never used testnet before 09:31 < lndbot> some seem to care more about looking cool on Twitter as opposed to understanding or attempting to better the underlying technology 09:32 < vitaminc> so it looks like lnd creates P2WPKH outputs, is that part of the lightning spec? (given how the addresses for those aren't widely supprted yet) 09:35 < iateadonut> was lndbot about to give tips on looking cool on twitter? 09:38 < mlz> vitaminc, it's supported in bitcoin master and soon in v0.16.0 09:42 < cjd[m]1> Maybe when I'm done with this webassembly project I'm doing, I'll try setting up a node, testnet coins.. yay I can be a testnet-coin millionaire :D 09:43 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:44 < lndbot> i think satoshionaire has a nice ring to it 09:44 < lndbot> hahha 09:45 < lndbot> @vitaminc i noticed this as well 09:45 < lndbot> even if you fund your wallet originally with p2sh segwit 09:45 < blademccool> i'm happy with the little victories. like finally getting lnd in my vm to talk to bitcoin core on the host. (it was talking to btcd in the vm before but thats less exciting) 09:45 < lndbot> open a channel in theory with p2sh segwit funds 09:45 < lndbot> if you close the channel 09:45 < lndbot> outputs appear to use bech32 09:45 < lndbot> back to ln wallet 09:46 < lndbot> so if you want to move from your ln wallet back "out" not a lot of things currently supporting bech32 segwith 09:46 < lndbot> i guess you could dump your privatekeys and chuck it into electrum worst case 09:49 < iateadonut> cjd[m]1, i'm banking on a bug that turns our testnet coins into real coins. 09:50 < iateadonut> gn 09:50 -!- iateadonut [~dan@222.96.39.245] has left #lnd [] 09:52 < mlz> branden.hughes it's very easy to compile bitcoin and get the master 09:56 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 09:56 < vitaminc> branden.hughes: i did "lncli sendcoins" and it (of course) respects the destination address type, but the change output is p2wpkh. which is fine. funny - testnet.blockchain.info actually creates bech32 addresses now, though they are not searchable and and in every other respect their testnet is screwed up 09:56 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:58 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 09:58 < lndbot> true point, sendcoins should work just fine, I was just thinking of trying to limit # of extra onchains 09:59 < lndbot> I wouldn't be surprised if later on, an open was added to close channel which could allow for the local or remote party to set their output address 10:02 < vitaminc> i don't quite yet understand the lnd <-> btcd interaction, but it's interesting that lnd keeps its own wallet rather than delegate that entirely to btcd (or bitcoind) 10:07 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 10:09 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 10:11 -!- tot [b758b87f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.88.184.127] has joined #lnd 10:19 -!- rodarmor [sid210835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcgcavgpmfcwnrgt] has joined #lnd 10:27 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 10:42 -!- Felix123123 [d8d095a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.208.149.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:43 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 10:46 -!- tot [b758b87f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.183.88.184.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:57 -!- jake__ [602dcab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.45.202.182] has joined #lnd 11:18 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:24 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30 -!- dermoth [~dermoth@gateway/tor-sasl/dermoth] has joined #lnd 11:31 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has joined #lnd 11:40 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:41 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 11:53 -!- jake__ [602dcab6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.45.202.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:08 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:17 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:18 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@2001:569:bda8:9400:3412:4293:2642:b31e] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 12:18 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lnd 12:22 -!- flaxscrip [b84bdfeb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.75.223.235] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:27 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 12:27 < anome> my first lightning app is almost done 12:27 < anome> at least beta 12:27 < anome> or whatever 12:28 < anome> nothing advanced but i'm proud and amazed how quick it took to be up and running with this 12:30 < anome> would it be feasible to use mnemonic public keys in lightning? i think mnemonics are the best ux idea ever in bitcoin 12:31 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 12:35 -!- cirius [~IceChat78@191.142.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has joined #lnd 12:42 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 12:49 -!- cspr [5e0ea7d8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.14.167.216] has joined #lnd 12:49 -!- cspr [5e0ea7d8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.14.167.216] has quit [Client Quit] 12:51 -!- danielh [~danielh@speedtest.sbbs.se] has joined #lnd 12:52 < danielh> After closing a channel the state is stuck in ONCHAIND_MUTUAL, I cant create a new channel to the same URI or fund it. Anyone know how to resolve this or what I'm doing wrong? 12:56 -!- r00tc0in [c4342718@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.39.24] has joined #lnd 12:58 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:14 -!- Luzer [~Luzer@162-204-57-190.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 13:17 -!- bajohns [bajohns@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bajohns] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:26 -!- nektarios [55494b2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.73.75.42] has joined #lnd 13:27 < nektarios> Hi all, I'm a LN newbie and I'm trying to setup lnd+bitcoind on arch linux 13:28 < nektarios> I run the latest revision of LND and I'm stuck in creating a new adress via lncli. should I create a p2wkh, np2wkh or p2pkh address? 13:29 < lndbot> `np2wkh` 13:30 < nektarios> thanks :) 13:32 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 13:33 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:40 < Luzer> hi, im trying to send a test payment to yalls and get an error "[lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = target not found" so i manually connected the node and get the same error. when i try make a direct connection i get "[lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = already connected to peer: 45.77.115.33:9735" 13:42 < Luzer> no pending channels and i dont see it on my list of channels 13:43 < nektarios> does lnd support running in mainnet? It doesn't seem to have an option for that, does it need a compile flag to enable it? 13:44 < blademccool> nektarios that kind of recklessness is not supported here. myself i'm waiting for my bitcoin core mainnet to reindex before I try and see if my hax to master will get it talking on mainnet. 13:45 < nektarios> blademccool: oh ok, but hey I can spare to lose 50-100$ worth of btc 13:46 < blademccool> nektarios: hehe me too, though i'll probably actually build something fun with ln and try it on testnet first before i roll it onto mainnet. i just want to be _able_ to roll it onto main net hehe. 13:47 < blademccool> plus my hacked branch has alias and color support so i just want to see my stuff pretty on recksplorer 13:48 < nektarios> hehehe 13:48 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 13:51 < nektarios> so you are saying that we have to hack it to make it work in mainnet? 13:52 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aictmwivytctoebf] has joined #lnd 13:54 < blademccool> yes. so far i have added only a few small additions to get it to try and talk to bitcoin core rpc. (a mainnet node option, settting activeNetParams from bitcoinMainNetParams in config.go and defining bitcionMainNetParams over in chainparams.go with the "correct" rpc port) 13:55 < nektarios> yeah I figured that the port was hardcoded to keep out people like us 13:55 < vitaminc> Luzer: you have a connection, but now you need to openchannel, then you can make a payment 13:55 -!- sour [50febceb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.254.188.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:56 < blademccool> whats funny is that the hardcoded port for bitcoin core is off by 2 and then it takes 2 off. so in chainparams.go it defines the testnet port as 18334 ... i copied that and just made it 8334 for mainnet, which gets -2'd later when it goes to use it (or so it seems) 13:56 < nektarios> well, you seem to be a developer and so am I, why don't they want more devs for testing? 13:57 < blademccool> i know they want more devs for testing, but the responsible thing to do is test rigorously on testnet so lost coins dont matter and this thing doesnt get a bad rep for losing pepoles money oout of the gate. 13:57 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:58 < blademccool> i'm just getting into it tho, kind of easing in after taking a year off work to relax. would love to find a way to make ln related dev work into a "job" that pays me "money" 14:06 < vitaminc> i just bought a Starblocks, and i see that a node charged be 10 satoshis - is there a way to see the route and fees prior to payment? 14:06 < vitaminc> s/charged be/charged me/ 14:06 < Deelight> queryroute maybe 14:08 < vitaminc> thx... queryroutes but what is the --dest argument? all i have is the invoice 14:08 -!- vigorousbearhunt [~vigorousb@gateway/tor-sasl/vigorousbearhunt] has joined #lnd 14:09 < Deelight> lncli decodepayreq invoice 14:09 < nektarios> blademccool: that port stuff was funny 14:09 < Deelight> queryroutes seems very slow, dunno if it actually works 14:09 < nektarios> blademccool: yeah I want to get involved too, this is history in the making we have to be a part of it!! 14:10 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 14:11 < nektarios> blademccool: although I work full time and don't have lots of spare time, I would like to spend some on this 14:12 < vitaminc> queryroutes is hanging here too... 14:13 -!- cirius [~IceChat78@191.142.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has left #lnd [] 14:13 < blademccool> nektarios indeed, what an exciting time this is. 14:15 < vitaminc> i have bob -> alice and alice -> faucet and alice -> acinq. when bob paid for starblocks, it chose the bob->alice->faucet->?->destination. when alice paid it was alice->acinq->dest. 14:16 < vitaminc> i'm curious why that one time it decided to go through the faucet channel, even though there was a direct one to acinq open 14:19 < Luzer> @vitaminc ok thanks, ill give it a try. 14:24 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:25 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 14:25 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 14:26 < Luzer> when i lncli sendpayment --pay_req=lnt........ i get the error{ 14:26 < Luzer> "payment_error": "unable to find a path to destination", 14:26 < Luzer> "payment_preimage": "", 14:26 < Luzer> "payment_route": null 14:26 < Luzer> } 14:32 < Luzer> i see, its pending. thanks for the help. is there a good "noob" friendly doc? so far im using about 4 and putting them together. 14:36 -!- vitaminc_ [~vitaminc@pool-71-114-78-15.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 14:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 14:38 -!- vitaminc [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:40 -!- vitaminc_ [~vitaminc@pool-71-114-78-15.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:43 -!- mxg [~mxg@cpe-76-91-1-28.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: afk] 14:44 -!- wxss [~user@185.145.38.233] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:48 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 14:51 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:51 -!- vitaminc [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has joined #lnd 14:52 -!- vitaminc_ [~vitaminc@192.5.151.254] has joined #lnd 14:53 < vitaminc> Luzer: I'm new to lnd and the only "doc" I used was the docker stuff in the lnd repo and the lncli reference, that's all. 14:56 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #lnd 14:58 < mlz> Luzer, do you have a channel with someone? 15:00 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:06 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:07 -!- vigorousbearhunt [~vigorousb@gateway/tor-sasl/vigorousbearhunt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:08 -!- fearlessmew [6cb33a42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.179.58.66] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:09 -!- vigorousbearhunt [~vigorousb@gateway/tor-sasl/vigorousbearhunt] has joined #lnd 15:10 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has joined #lnd 15:18 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 15:21 <@roasbeef> vitaminc: the faucet path prob had lower fees 15:30 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:b840:13c0:9d69:fbae] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:35 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN649 15:35 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 7bf057c Olaoluwa Osuntokun: glide: update to latest btcwallet+neutrino+gozmq builds... 15:37 < vitaminc> any reason why "lncli sendpayment --pay_req=..." would just hang, is there anything i can do to try to figure out what it's doing? 15:40 < vitaminc> i see that listchannels has "pending_htlcs": [ ... which wasn't there before 15:41 <@roasbeef> vitaminc: check the logs, it may be retrying options in the background 15:41 < vitaminc> and starblocks hasn't seen the payment it looks like... 15:41 <@roasbeef> should prob create a one off mode with a session id, and base pruning off of that 15:41 <@roasbeef> starblocks usually has spotty connectivity, but no one is incentivzed to improve it, as it's just testnet 15:43 < vitaminc> kinda hard to tell what's going on, the log is quite busy 15:45 < vitaminc> i see a lot of "[DBG] SRVR: Broadcasting 1 messages" - i don't know if its related to the payment or lnd just likes saying this 15:47 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 15:52 <@roasbeef> nah that's just it sending ann's to other peers 15:53 <@roasbeef> you should look for the CRTR sub-system 15:55 -!- noobie_ [5cec7620@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.236.118.32] has joined #lnd 15:57 < noobie_> Hey can anyone help, i'm trying to set a channel up with bitrefil but it says routing failure, where can I find some more channels to try and connect to? 15:58 < noobie_> i have test btc and 2 other channel set up but I cant send lightining payment still 15:58 < blademccool> noobie_: i used acinq's explorer in "force graph" mode to find some well connected nodes and open channels. the endurance node was what i went thru to get to starblocks 15:59 < noobie_> Thanks @blade i shall check it out 16:00 < vitaminc> try the faucet: lncli connect 02c39955c1579afe4824dc0ef4493fdf7f3660b158cf6d367d8570b9f19683afb5@159.203.125.125 16:00 -!- figitaki [~careyjane@c-76-102-244-48.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 16:00 -!- vigorousbearhunt [~vigorousb@gateway/tor-sasl/vigorousbearhunt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:01 < vitaminc> noobie_: also this worked for me: lncli connect 03933884aaf1d6b108397e5efe5c86bcf2d8ca8d2f700eda99db9214fc2712b134@endurance.acinq.co:9735 16:02 < noobie_> thanks i have now opened a channel with endurance, worked smoother than the other 2 channels I did. I shall report back when channel is done. 16:02 < vitaminc> roasbeef: it's still hanging, i'll just let it be - does it ever time out? 16:05 -!- RedBlue [6b4dcb8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.203.142] has joined #lnd 16:06 < RedBlue> Apologies if this is already known but the Slack link on GitHub isn't active anymore. 16:06 < RedBlue> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/README.md 16:07 < meshcollider> RedBlue: thanks for letting us know but yep someone has already opened a pull request to update it :) 16:07 < meshcollider> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/575 16:08 < RedBlue> Cool. Thanks. 16:13 -!- RedBlue [6b4dcb8e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.77.203.142] has left #lnd [] 16:13 -!- noobie_ [5cec7620@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.236.118.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:17 < mlz> i have an updated list of nodes and sites for Testnet if you want to use them: https://paste.ee/p/nPfaN#Z6Gqlg6T6P1Qpgi9B88LRsuOQqV9gUE8 16:20 < vitaminc> so if lnd decided on a route, and one of the nodes decided to go offline, the payment should just fail, or will it retry it with a different route eventually? 16:29 -!- mlz [~IRCIdent@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:34 -!- mlz [~IRCIdent@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lnd 16:35 <@roasbeef> vitaminc: it should timeout, do you see it continually still trying rouites? 16:48 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #467: cmd/lncli+lnd: Add alias and color customization (master...feature/customize-alias-and-color) https://git.io/vb4Eo 16:54 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 17:01 < meshcollider> \o/ 17:07 < mlz> woohoo 17:18 < blademccool> sweet 17:23 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 17:23 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lnd 17:52 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 17:58 < vitaminc> roasbeef: i ctrl-c'd it a little while back, i don't know what it was doing. i suspect the starblocks node has gone bad somehow 17:59 -!- truk_ [~truk@76-227-238-58.lightspeed.frsctx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:02 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 18:03 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:04 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 18:07 -!- pvl1 [pi@unaffiliated/pvl1] has joined #lnd 18:07 < pvl1> welp,i dont have enough storage space for the testnet to run a node 18:09 < danielh> hey, I'm trying to close some channels to increase the capacity however after closing the channels they are stuck in ONCHAIND_MUTUAL state which makes me unable to establish a new channel to the same node. Anyone know what Im missing? 18:10 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.43] has joined #lnd 18:13 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:15 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 18:23 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:27 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 18:29 < mlz> danielh, are you running clightning? 18:30 < mlz> that sounds more like an issue that you can ask in channel #c-lightning 18:30 < danielh> yes, thanks 18:36 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 18:50 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:51 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 18:58 -!- bajohns [bajohns@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/bajohns] has joined #lnd 19:24 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 19:28 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:31 -!- r00tc0in [c4342718@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.39.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aictmwivytctoebf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:34 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:37 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:54f6:f913:b30f:722e] has joined #lnd 19:42 < mlz> lmao.. 19:42 < mlz> 2018-01-25 05:41:45.540 [INF] NTFN: New block: height=505985, sha=00000000000000000075a505996a1c3ef42e02340cd5e5a09575dd9c4d441165 19:42 < mlz> 2018-01-25 05:41:45.540 [INF] UTXN: Attempting to graduate height=505985: num_kids=0, num_babies=0 19:43 < mlz> oops 19:43 < mlz> lmao 20:06 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 -!- mlz [~IRCIdent@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:16 -!- mlz [~IRCIdent@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lnd 20:20 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:28 -!- Henry__ [ae3f249e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.63.36.158] has joined #lnd 20:28 -!- Henry__ [ae3f249e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.63.36.158] has quit [Client Quit] 20:32 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 20:42 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-igrkulieriyritqa] has joined #lnd 21:03 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:12 < grubles> heh num_babies 21:12 < mlz> 2018-01-25 00:10:47.455 [INF] NTFN: New block: height=1260398, sha=0000000000000494473c1921b37148ff01e5ce262d8df1e1fe1695f8ba5e0185 21:12 < mlz> 2018-01-25 00:10:47.455 [INF] UTXN: Attempting to graduate height=1260398: num_kids=0, num_babies=0 21:13 < mlz> grubles, update, that error has been fixed, the log is much calmer now :D 21:34 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 21:43 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.156.175.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN6Dg 21:53 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 4559438 Alex: config.go: check for RPCUser AND RPCPass (AND ZMQPath for bitcoind)... 21:55 <@roasbeef> heads up, updating the faucet, will be down for a bit 21:56 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:57 <@roasbeef> updating to the latest stuffs 22:13 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN6y2 22:13 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master e30f869 Alexandre Viau: readme: update Slack invite link 22:15 -!- figitaki [~careyjane@c-76-102-244-48.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:16 -!- figitaki [~careyjane@c-76-102-244-48.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 22:26 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 22:39 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 22:53 < Veggen> hrmf. I think LN is launched. Two businesses sponsoring channel fees of people connecting with them. 23:08 -!- sycofly [7963f02c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.99.240.44] has joined #lnd 23:20 -!- daouzo23 [~daouzo23@62.68.195.173] has joined #lnd 23:27 < Sentineo> isn't that premature, though? 23:35 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 23:43 < meshcollider> Sentineo: yes, but they won't listen when people tell them that, its always "we know the risks and we choose to anyway" 23:43 -!- YungMoon [~me@unaffiliated/boscop] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:44 < Sentineo> yeah, but I am afraid it is not them who are at risk :) 23:44 < zyp> I don't see why that has to be so negative 23:45 < meshcollider> not negative just worried :) 23:46 < Sentineo> I am just worried about the bitcoin new commers who try out LN and will loose money :) 23:46 < Sentineo> but not sure how well can they handle LN now, not really noob friendly at this stage 23:51 -!- gaf_ [~fag@12.smos-linux.org] has quit [Quit: SMOS - http://smos-linux.org] 23:56 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 23:58 < sycofly> I was node 1127 deployed from New Zealand few hours back .. 23:59 < sycofly> on test net