--- Day changed Sun Jan 28 2018 00:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qunqmfyikqagahew] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:39 -!- erols [~erols@dhcp-077-251-249-036.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 00:52 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:53 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:53 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:54 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 00:59 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:59 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 01:17 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:17 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czistzxhkoypaprr] has joined #lnd 01:18 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:18 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:740c:41b0:c317:c0b6] has joined #lnd 01:20 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:23 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #lnd 01:32 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 01:32 < meshcollider> waxwing: did you hit Travis's abuse detection as well 01:33 < meshcollider> waxwing: I had same issue with lnd and bitcoin, they've had problems with people running crypto miners on their servers apparently so almost anything crypto-related is likely to be picked up 01:34 < meshcollider> But support is very helpful usually yeah :) 01:34 < booyah> travis has it's issues. Are you not using Jenkins or other self-hosted? 01:34 < booyah> *its 01:34 < meshcollider> booyah: lnd and bitcoin both use travis 01:35 < booyah> maybe switching is not that hard 01:38 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:39 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has joined #lnd 02:03 < waxwing> meshcollider, yes i know, that's what i meant (same happened to me, same solution, just contact them) 02:03 < waxwing> point i was making was only that this time the tests did run, so it can't have been that in this case 02:14 < Veggen> How much info do you see about the sender when you receive a transaction? 02:15 < Veggen> It's the same as for routing, right, you only know what channel you got it from? Not if it was routed from further away? 02:27 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kznhcaljmugtckjh] has joined #lnd 02:32 -!- ocb [~ocb@unaffiliated/ocb] has left #lnd ["WeeChat 2.0-dev"] 02:36 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 02:54 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 03:12 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:27 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:28 -!- wxss [~user@5.254.86.220] has joined #lnd 03:50 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 03:50 < erols> i want to change the alias of my node. I know I have to edit server.go and recompile. I also have to "be sure to remove the import library too or it'll fail". What does that mean? 03:51 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 03:51 -!- anome_ [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:53 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 03:54 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:54 -!- anome_ [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 03:54 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 03:58 -!- janaka [bc259766@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.37.151.102] has joined #lnd 03:59 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:02 -!- janaka [bc259766@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.37.151.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:05 < meshcollider> erols: you don't anymore, upgrade to latest master and you can change alias using config file 04:05 < erols> meshcollider: thanks! is that Alias or alias in the conf file 04:07 < erols> meshcollider: can I do --alias on the command line? 04:12 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 04:15 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:15 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 04:42 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 04:47 < anome> @roasbeef hey, it *is* possible to run lnd in the background using "lnd &" 05:02 < Veggen> anome: I use nohup. 05:03 < Veggen> and redirect stdout/stderr to /dev/null. 05:03 < Veggen> nohup lnd 2>&1 >/dev/null & 05:03 < anome> i've used screen so far, is nohup better? 05:03 < Veggen> screen is also good. 05:04 < anome> (: 05:05 < anome> i sometimes get confused by screen though 05:05 < anome> i wish it was more clear how many spawned windows exists etc 05:05 < anome> i'm having trouble with my wallet, after i create it using "lnd create" i can't unlock it 05:06 < Veggen> and since I like to be able to see old logs,I run the following in cron: 05:06 < Veggen> rsync -avh --exclude lnd.log /home/vegard/.lnd/logs/testnet3/bitcoin/ /home/vegard/log/lnd/ 05:06 < anome> i've removed the data directory to try to do a clean install but it still doesn't work :/ 05:06 < Veggen> lncli create 05:06 < anome> lncli create* 05:12 -!- erols_ [~erols@138.199.65.203] has joined #lnd 05:13 -!- erols [~erols@dhcp-077-251-249-036.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:13 -!- erols_ is now known as erols 05:14 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Quit: Vires in numeris] 05:16 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:19 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 05:22 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:25 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:25 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 05:25 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Client Quit] 05:25 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 05:26 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has quit [Client Quit] 05:27 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 05:37 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 -!- jchia_ [~jchia@116.192.16.175] has joined #lnd 05:42 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:45 < anome> i keep getting "Wallet is encrypted. Please unlock using 'lncli unlock', or set password using 'lncli create' if this is the first time starting lnd." 05:46 < anome> i've removed the data directory several times, trying to fix it 05:46 < anome> but i can't create a wallet 05:54 < anome> hmm, maybe it was because i had no noencryptwallet=true 05:54 < anome> makes unlocking impossible 05:54 < anome> this error message could be better :) 05:55 < anome> not confirmed yet though 05:56 < waxwing> screen ftw 05:56 < waxwing> and then the tmux gang arrives :) 06:15 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 06:22 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-czistzxhkoypaprr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:23 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:24 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 06:24 -!- pigeons [~pigeons@androzani.sysevolve.com] has joined #lnd 06:25 -!- pigeons is now known as Guest77766 06:25 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:39 -!- tuxx [~tuxx@ur24.Uranus.fastwebserver.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Quit: Vires in numeris] 06:42 < erols> yup ;-) tmux ftw! 06:50 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 06:53 -!- souspeed [541e4e36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.30.78.54] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:12 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 07:13 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 < grzs> team tmux here, I actually have nothing against screen but just use tmux because of imo saner defaults 07:20 < erols> problem setting alias: I pulled the latest master and recompiled - in lnd.conf I tried alias=erols and alias="erols" - in getinfo I get "alias"="" and not seeing my alias on acinq explorer 07:20 -!- usil [~foo@odisej.fmf.uni-lj.si] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:21 < Veggen> erols: ned to have it in correct section? 07:22 < Veggen> for alias, should be in the Application Options section. 07:24 < erols> Veggen: thanks, will try now 07:26 < erols> Veggen: it is in Application options 07:28 < Veggen> alias=VegardsNode 07:28 < Veggen> (is mine) 07:28 < Veggen> "identity_pubkey": "03925da38e590d75bc6561f51705f8b1241bdc0dfa33041020a21c6d59837c5887", 07:28 < Veggen> "alias": "VegardsNode", 07:29 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 07:30 < erols> my lnd.conf 07:31 < erols> https://paste.gnome.org/p2ii447ys 07:36 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 07:37 < Veggen> can't see anything wrong. 07:38 < Veggen> you did install new version? (go install . ./cmd/...) 07:38 -!- usil [~foo@odisej.fmf.uni-lj.si] has joined #lnd 07:38 < erols> yes 07:38 < erols> I saw an error flash by when I started lnd 07:39 < erols> but I can't find it in the log file 07:44 < Veggen> remember to also check the compressed old logs :) 07:44 < Veggen> i.e check at the startup time. 07:47 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kznhcaljmugtckjh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:48 -!- wiz2 [d06f3025@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.111.48.37] has joined #lnd 07:48 < wiz2> what would cause a channel to have active = false ? 07:49 < Veggen> the other end being down/not working. 07:50 < Veggen> both ends have to be online for a channel to be active. 07:52 < erols> I saw unknown option alias 07:52 < wiz2> hmm, I'm pretty sure the other end is okay... would some protocol incompatibility between the two nodes cause this maybe? 07:52 < erols> maybe it's Alias or NodeAlias? 07:53 < Veggen> nope. I use alias, and it works. 07:53 < Veggen> only explanation is that you're not using a new enough version :) 07:57 < erols> I forgot to install it as you suggested above - sorry 07:57 < erols> I did that but now: unable to start server: invalid magic in compressed pubkey string: 125 07:59 < wiz2> if i do getchaninfo the node2_policy is null 08:00 < wiz2> im running master as of a few hours ago 08:01 < wiz2> i guess ill try closechannel and make a new one 08:02 < wiz2> unless there is some way to manually request the other node to re-send data 08:06 < Veggen> erols: sometimes, channel db format is incompatible... 08:06 < wiz2> hmm closechannel just takes the channel_point as the argument right? 08:06 < Veggen> wiz2: and optional --force 08:06 < Veggen> which you'll need for inactive channels. 08:07 < wiz2> why would it say channel not found if i just copy paste the channel_point from listchannels ? 08:07 < wiz2> oh 08:08 < wiz2> weird just says unable to find channel 08:08 < Veggen> it does. 08:08 < Veggen> a bit misleading. 08:08 < wiz2> oh needed output_index 08:10 < erols> Veggen: ok. I'll revert to a working version, close channels, go back to latest and start again :-) 08:11 < Veggen> :) 08:11 < wiz2> what's a known recent commit hash that's a "working version" ? 08:11 < Veggen> oh, everything is working. 08:11 < wiz2> sure 08:12 < wiz2> any lnd nodes I can open a channel to on mainnet? 08:12 < Veggen> I mean there's no recent versions that work better than other, really. 08:16 < Veggen> sure there are. If you really want to connect to mainnet, you can. 08:16 < erols> wiz2: for me depends on channel db compatibility 08:16 < Veggen> But you need to understand 1) you'll probably have to close all channels several times, 2) there's a significant risk of loss of funds due to bugs. 08:17 < Veggen> https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ shows current mainnet. 08:17 < erols> ok - i'm on testnet so losing funds is ok 08:18 < Veggen> erols: I was talking to wiz2, who was asking about mainnet. 08:18 < erols> oops 08:33 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Quit: Vires in numeris] 08:34 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 08:43 < wiz2> thanks for the help 08:43 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Quit: Vires in numeris] 08:47 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 08:47 -!- wiz2 [d06f3025@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.111.48.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:50 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Client Quit] 08:50 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:50 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 08:58 -!- Guest77766 is now known as pigeons 09:01 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has joined #lnd 09:10 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:16 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 09:24 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 09:41 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 09:47 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lnd 09:58 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in] 10:05 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sngdygvscesedcro] has joined #lnd 10:05 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lnd 10:06 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 10:06 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 10:07 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 10:08 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 10:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] sangaman opened pull request #686: Fixing it's/its typos in comments (master...its-nits) https://git.io/vNDQM 10:34 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lnd 10:45 -!- zaptrem [4a4716aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.71.22.170] has joined #lnd 10:45 < zaptrem> Hello. How do I change the LND autopilot parameters (e.g., increase funds allocated to payment chans)? 10:54 -!- figitaki [~careyjane@c-73-241-109-13.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 11:00 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbqptwkbbuykirnn] has joined #lnd 11:01 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@fctnnbsc38w-47-55-95-227.dhcp-dynamic.fibreop.nb.bellaliant.net] has joined #lnd 11:03 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 11:04 < LordCow> tryin to start muh lightning but it's bitching: 11:04 < LordCow> unable to start wallet: Post http://localhost:18332: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:18332: getsockopt: operation timed out 11:04 < LordCow> unable to create chain control: Post http://localhost:18332: dial tcp 127.0.0.1:18332: getsockopt: operation timed out 11:04 < LordCow> suspect cause i don't have 'localhost', can i give it an IP somewhere 11:10 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Quit: Vires in numeris] 11:13 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lnd 11:20 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has joined #lnd 11:20 -!- RvMp [~Qint@unaffiliated/qint] has quit [Client Quit] 11:27 -!- Maky [~m@BSN-142-247-100.dynamic.siol.net] has joined #lnd 11:30 -!- kunla [~kunla@81.193.53.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:31 < Maky> Hello guys, i am running LNN, and it doesnt show my public ip. Do I have to compile my own LND.exe with the righ settings (changed colors, node alias name, ip address), to be shown on the network? Thanks 11:32 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl4-53-189.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lnd 11:33 < mesh_> Maky: are you using the --externalip argument when you run it? 11:34 < Maky> no 11:34 < Maky> I am running the LND via the lightning-app, and it opens its automaticly... 11:35 < mesh_> Maky: you can use --alias and --color arguments 11:35 < mesh_> You should use --externalip 11:35 < Maky> oh I see 11:36 < Maky> I ll try, thank you! 11:41 < mlz> Maky, you have to forward your port too 11:42 < mlz> hm wait no 11:42 < Maky> Thats taken care of 11:42 < mlz> Acinq explorer still can see your node if your IP doesn't show, you just need to open a channel with someone and wait 11:43 < Maky> Acinq explorer sees my node, and i have 8 channels opened, but the ip is not shown... I guess i have to use thoose parameters, just not sure, where to put them lol 11:43 < Maky> https://explorer.acinq.co/#/n/021df1377db7d7f002af2cac30c9129d49a9216d67755948cdee42e9df28d17a8a 11:43 < Maky> thats the node 11:44 < mlz> you run lnd with --externalip= 11:44 < Maky> Thats the problem, becouse I using the lightning-app, and it opens the lnd byitself 11:45 < mlz> hm i think you can start the app on commandline 11:46 < Maky> hmm 11:47 < Veggen> you can. I always did that. 11:50 < Maky> so you allways started lnd manually, and open lighnting-app after? 11:51 < Maky> ahh 11:51 < Maky> npm run start --externalip 11:51 < Maky> i see 11:54 -!- grea [4da9db14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.169.219.20] has joined #lnd 12:05 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:18 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lnd 12:19 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:22 -!- grea [4da9db14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.169.219.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:36 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:22 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 13:23 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:38 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:52 -!- MTLaleks [8e74dc2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.116.220.47] has joined #lnd 13:54 <@roasbeef> tmux gang, tmux tang, tmux gang 13:55 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: look at 'lnd -h' 13:55 <@roasbeef> LordCow: do you have the full node you're targetting actually running? 13:55 -!- MTLaleks [8e74dc2f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.116.220.47] has quit [Client Quit] 13:56 <@roasbeef> Maky: well most peeps that are running the app are behind a nat, so doesn't matter if you set external ip at all if stuff isn't being forwarded properly 14:01 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:01 < akihabara> whats up guys 14:01 < akihabara> long time since i was here... 14:05 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has joined #lnd 14:13 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 14:17 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 14:20 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbqptwkbbuykirnn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:24 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:31 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:a995:b750:f91b:a786] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:33 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Quit: ttfn] 14:33 <@roasbeef> oy 14:33 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lnd 14:38 < mlz> hey akihabara, you left us :/ 14:40 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 14:49 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:740c:41b0:c317:c0b6] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:00 < akihabara> mlz im moving out and 24hours a day are not enough 15:00 < mlz> oh 15:00 < akihabara> my vm is not working anymore 15:01 < akihabara> im going away from the uk to build a mining farm with solar panels 15:01 < mlz> akihabara, so you don't have a lnd node running on testnet right now? 15:01 < mlz> wow 15:01 < mlz> akihabara, good luck, best wishes to you :D 15:01 < akihabara> no is not. but i want tomorrow to sit down properly and build a proper linux on a vps with public ip 15:02 < mlz> cool ok 15:02 < akihabara> thanks 15:02 < akihabara> are you going to be around tomorrow? 15:02 < mlz> probably 15:02 < akihabara> i see there were some changes, that i need to read 15:02 < akihabara> maybe you can give me a hand 15:02 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:03 < akihabara> lnd is on mainnet now!! happy days 15:03 < akihabara> we are taking over the world hehe 15:03 < mlz> yup, a few days ago roasbeef pushed like over 100 commits to master 15:03 < mlz> akihabara, LND devs still don't want us to be on Mainnet :D 15:03 < akihabara> its very dangerous 15:03 < mlz> oh yes 15:03 < akihabara> a lot of bugs 15:04 < mlz> yes yes 15:04 -!- erols [~erols@138.199.65.203] has quit [Quit: erols] 15:04 < akihabara> i wouldnt imagine me losing 1 btc just because the network crashed lol 15:04 < akihabara> :d 15:05 < mlz> yup, and i wouldn't want to put that much money in a LN node 15:07 < blademccool> does lnd keep track of peers that you dont have channels with yet? eg if i connect lnd to 10 peers then shut it down without opening any channels, should it remember the peers on restart? 15:07 < blademccool> coz mine doesnt seem to :( 15:08 <@roasbeef> blademccool: yeh it does 15:08 < mlz> well if you connect with --perm, it should remember 15:08 <@roasbeef> blademccool: oh that if don't have chans with, no 15:08 <@roasbeef> as they're no more special that any other peer 15:09 < mlz> roasbeef, you can have channels but the peers don't show up in "listpeers", maybe because they go offline at some point? 15:09 < blademccool> roasbeef, mlz: okee cool ty for info 15:11 < blademccool> oh and i suppose the reason is i want to have it have a list of peers that will be online and then engage autopilot 15:13 < akihabara> ok lets begin tonight then lol 15:15 < akihabara> so we need docker, btcd, lnd 15:16 < akihabara> we need golang, and glide 15:16 < akihabara> these 5 things right? 15:17 < mlz> i've never used a docker so probably can't help you there 15:18 < akihabara> how do you install lnd on your linux node then? 15:20 < akihabara> docker is a program which packs other programs into containers for compatibility right? 15:21 < B0g4r7> I've never used docker, and had no trouble installing lnd. 15:21 < akihabara> why do the instructions say about docker? :S 15:22 < mlz> akihabara, very easy to install in linux, are you doing it right now? 15:22 < akihabara> yes 15:22 < akihabara> well ive got the old version 15:22 < mlz> what do you have right now? 15:23 < akihabara> i have the version which was up to date 2-3 weeks ago 15:23 < mlz> ok then update 15:23 < mlz> let me put in a pastebin for you 15:23 < akihabara> the GOPATH variable doesnt work either. i think i messed up a bit 15:25 < mlz> akihabara, https://paste.ee/p/lqPZN#7iUAiukKPKFD4kQtiMvw8JJCssQ5QIfM 15:26 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:29 < akihabara> oh ok GOPATH works! 15:29 < akihabara> i cant remember how i set it up though 15:29 < akihabara> pff 15:30 < blademccool> a lot of ppl define their GOROOT and GOPATH vars in their .bashrc file. 15:31 < akihabara> ah yes 15:31 < akihabara> i think i saved it there 15:34 < akihabara> hmm when i do glide install it says command not found :S 15:38 -!- Deelight [~Deelight@75.68.86.79.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:40 < mlz> akihabara, glide should be in your $GOPATH/bin 15:41 < akihabara> hm 15:42 < akihabara> yes its there 15:42 < akihabara> :S 15:43 < akihabara> i think i got it 15:45 < akihabara> it is there but everytime i do glide install it says permision denied. i do sudo and says sudo glide not found :S 15:46 < akihabara> could not create mkdir vendor permission denied 15:52 < mlz> akihabara, try this: source ~/.profile 15:53 < akihabara> i did it. should i reboot? 15:53 < akihabara> or logout? 15:53 < mlz> not sure 15:54 < akihabara> without logout, it says the same thing 15:54 < akihabara> let me logout and see 15:55 < akihabara> nope 15:55 < akihabara> doesnt work 16:01 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01 < mlz> akihabara, did you export your gopath to ~/.profile ? 16:01 < akihabara> not sure 16:01 < akihabara> let me do it 16:02 < akihabara> i think i did it at first 16:02 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 16:02 < mlz> akihabara, nano ~/.profile 16:02 < mlz> and go to the bottom of that page 16:02 < mlz> what do you see? 16:03 < akihabara> export PATH=$PATH:$GOPATH/bin ?? 16:03 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 16:03 < mlz> akihabara, that's it? 16:03 < mlz> any line above it? 16:04 < akihabara> PATH="$HOME/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH" 16:05 < akihabara> this is what i see 16:06 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:08 < mlz> akihabara, let me pm you 16:38 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 9 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNyLa 16:38 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master bf60010 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: chainntnfs: fix spend notification registration race condition... 16:38 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master bde3828 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: funding: fix format directive in logging statement 16:38 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master a94648e Olaoluwa Osuntokun: channeldb: properly use a read-transaction in FetchChannelEdgesByOutpoint... 16:43 -!- wxss [~user@5.254.86.220] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:44 -!- HMS [49ca39e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.202.57.226] has joined #lnd 16:46 -!- HMS [49ca39e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.202.57.226] has quit [Client Quit] 16:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNytZ 16:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 1819abf Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnwallet: increase size of test reservation due to high funding limit 16:57 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 16:58 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl4-53-189.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:14 < zaptrem> How long should the LND Autopilot take to allocate all funds to the Lightning network? 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNyqr 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master b4e280e Andreas Tasch: docs: update install.md to same content as on lighting-dev-site... 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #612: Update install.md to same content as on lighting-dev-site (master...patch-1) https://git.io/vNC5i 17:18 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: blocks gotta be mined 17:36 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ncbgvmobsysfmjlj] has joined #lnd 17:36 < zaptrem> roasbeef: I set Autopilot to use all available funds in the connected wallet and set the max connections to 999999, but the only channel that has opened (or even been broadcasted) is one I think I created manually hours ago. 17:38 < zaptrem> The wallet is funded with 0.0147 with 0.0011 in a channel. 17:38 <@roasbeef> there is no "max connections" param 17:38 < zaptrem> --autopilot.maxchannels= The maximum number of channels that should be created (5) 17:39 < zaptrem> ? 17:39 <@roasbeef> if you made a channel, an only have a single utxo, then you'll need to wait for that to confirm before anyore are open 17:39 <@roasbeef> also woulnd't advise a value that large... 17:42 < zaptrem> The channel opening transaction confirmed hours ago. Re value: Are there any negative effects of a large number of concurrent channels? 17:44 <@roasbeef> if you don't have enough funds to open another channel, then it won't be opened 17:44 <@roasbeef> lol 999999 is more channels than exists on the entire testnet network 17:49 < zaptrem> Is there a minimum funding amount? Also, if I want it to continue creating and accepting channels forever (as more testers join) why not? 17:50 < zaptrem> Additionally, does the current Lightning protocol allow a payment to be split along multiple payment channels? (Say I want to send $2000 to person X but I only have two $1000 channels open, can I send $1000 over each with one invoice?) 17:55 <@roasbeef> min is something like 2x the dust limit 17:56 <@roasbeef> eh, yeh go ahead, do w/e just that there aren't even 999999 nodes on the networ lol 17:56 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: yep, not implemented yet 17:58 < zaptrem> How does Autopilot choose how much to put in a channel? 17:58 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: peep the code 18:00 < zaptrem> I glanced earlier and it wasn't immediately obvious. I might have been looking in the wrong place (was on a phone riding a train) 18:00 <@roasbeef> also it's just the current default heuritic, nothign itself is hardcoded or set in stone 18:02 < zaptrem> Yep 18:03 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 18:04 < zaptrem> Also, how are the other nodes configured to automatically accept my channel openings? 18:07 -!- conanoc [6f5b8922@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.91.137.34] has joined #lnd 18:08 < zaptrem> Where is btcutil.Amount defined.... 18:08 <@roasbeef> in btcutil, it's just a typedef for satoshis 18:09 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: well it doens't really cost them to accept a new incoming channel, if they don't want to accept channels they could just not listen at all, or we could add a more to reject all incoming channels, etc 18:10 < zaptrem> It looks like the default heuristic shoves the maximum amount of liquidity into every channel until it runs out of funds? 18:10 <@roasbeef> on testnet, yeh 18:13 <@roasbeef> for mainnet, there're many alterntive methods viable, stopped short for testnet as it was sufficient for the moment 18:16 < zaptrem> The default heuristic doesn't seem conducive to a purpose-built test-hub node yet, I think I see what you mean. 18:16 <@roasbeef> purpose-built test-hub node? 18:16 <@roasbeef> it assumes to direct purpose, hence the ability to plug in w/e logic you'd like 18:17 <@roasbeef> it just attempts to promote a small world topology 18:17 <@roasbeef> with minimal graph diameter 18:18 <@roasbeef> there're plans to add additinoal link level hooks to the agent 18:18 < zaptrem> Lightning hub node that is designed to maximize fee revenue 18:18 <@roasbeef> so thigns liek failed inocming htlc's due to insufficnet bandwidth, positive signals, etc 18:18 <@roasbeef> heh "designed to maximize fee revenue", when you put it that way, it sounds so simple :) 18:18 <@roasbeef> but yeh I get what you mean 18:19 <@roasbeef> main question is, what exactly _is_ "optimal"? 18:19 <@roasbeef> hop aboard as we head on this journey towards optimality, dude 18:20 < zaptrem> :D 18:20 * roasbeef lifts his burrito to see if optimality is hiding under there 18:20 <@roasbeef> but do you get what I mean about those link level feartures? 18:21 <@roasbeef> future algos could use them as "fitness" signals, to progressively cull them down, and find what "works" in a few day time span 18:21 < zaptrem> For the most part. The question is whether anyone is currently willing to implement new heuristics once the link level features are implemented. 18:22 <@roasbeef> if the end goal is "maximize fee revenue", don't see why someone *wouldn't* want to :p 18:22 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 18:22 <@roasbeef> Your Network Needs You 18:22 < zaptrem> There isn't currently any revenue to be had unless you're a TBTC hoarder :P 18:23 <@roasbeef> these is my tBTC, and y'all can't have none of it! 18:23 < zaptrem> lol 18:23 < zaptrem> Does LND currently dynamically adjust channel fees to maintain liquidity and fight unbalanced channels? 18:23 <@roasbeef> nope 18:23 <@roasbeef> easy hook in tho 18:24 < zaptrem> I'm pretty sure nobody else does either (as of right now), right? 18:25 <@roasbeef> not that I know of 18:26 <@roasbeef> rome wasn't built in a single day :p 18:27 <@roasbeef> but you've got the right idea, as to the type of optimizations possible 18:27 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 18:43 < zaptrem> Okay, so for now I'll do things manually. If I want my test hub to be "successful" I want to maintain a reasonable amount of liquidity with well-connected peers (which I would connect to manually). However, as payments are routed through my channels could my liquidity be depleted by other people? 18:44 <@roasbeef> why do things manually, when you can write code to do it for you? :p 18:44 <@roasbeef> well depends if there's a single major sink in the network or not, or a few ones 18:44 <@roasbeef> going back to earlier, your wallet doesn't even enough spare funds/utxos to open up channels widely 18:45 <@roasbeef> things are "depleated", just shifted between diff channels, eventually you get more funds over time 18:46 < zaptrem> Couldn't it just fund each channel with something like 0.003 coins? 18:46 -github-onion:#lnd- [lightning-onion] Roasbeef pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vNyO5 18:46 -github-onion:#lnd- lightning-onion/master 57bfe90 Conner Fromknecht: obfuscation: add encode/decode to onion obfuscator 18:46 -github-onion:#lnd- lightning-onion/master cd2eefa Conner Fromknecht: obfuscation_test: test obfuscator serialization 18:46 -github-onion:#lnd- lightning-onion/master d8e664f Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #17 from cfromknecht/obfuscator-serialization... 18:46 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: sure it could, you can modify that easily if you'd like, the real question is _why_ "0.003"? 18:46 < zaptrem> ^ You're on a roll today aren't you 18:46 <@roasbeef> it's what I does 18:47 < zaptrem> Well, on the test net it doesn't really matter, but on a hypothetical future mainnet node that is worth around ~$30 (or more than most "coffee" transactions) 18:47 <@roasbeef> other questions include "is it better to have one biggish chan, or a few smaller ones distributed widely?" 18:47 <@roasbeef> in a future where most payments are actually multi-path, the anser changes 18:48 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: bitcoin is the best medium of account :p 18:48 < zaptrem> As a hub node, many smaller ones seems more beneficial than a few big ones. The opposite is true for a user. 18:48 <@roasbeef> orly? 18:48 < zaptrem> (As I understand it) My understanding is probably flawed :P 18:49 <@roasbeef> depends lol, tons of free variables, which is what makes it all so exciting ^_^ 18:50 < zaptrem> Certainly. Here is my thinking: As a user, I want to get as many funds in the network as possible while paying the lowest fees. As a hub, I want as many routes as possible available to my potential users so I'm more attractive than my competitors. 18:53 <@roasbeef> reasonable model, depends on who your "users" are, where they're sending payments to, how large they are, etc 18:55 < zaptrem> I'm imagining the payments people make the most of throughout their day (Food, more food, transportation, app store purchases, mostly just food really) 18:55 <@roasbeef> how many people pay with bitcoin at the grocery store today? 18:56 < zaptrem> How many people use Lightning with anything of value today? 18:56 <@roasbeef> a few :p 18:56 < zaptrem> Eventually, I see places like Steam and Square implementing it to replace their bloated BTC on-chain implementations 18:57 <@roasbeef> sounds plausible 18:57 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has joined #lnd 18:57 < zaptrem> Most Steam purchases are < ₿0.003 18:58 < zaptrem> idk about Square 18:58 <@roasbeef> yeh me neither 18:58 <@roasbeef> their new feature is generally available now tho 18:58 <@roasbeef> idk if it supports withdrawl or not 19:05 < crom__> are there any python implementations in the works? 19:06 <@roasbeef> there was one started a while back, but then it was abandoned 19:06 <@roasbeef> was never really more than a PoC 19:06 < zaptrem> Here is the current list: 19:06 < zaptrem> LND - Lightning Network Daemon (Golang) eclair - A Scala implementation of the Lightning Network (Scala) c-lightning - A Lightning Network implementation in C lit - Lightning Network node software (Golang) lightning-onion - Onion Routed Micropayments for the Lightning Network (Golang) lightning-integration - Lightning Integration Testing Framework ptarmigan - C++ BOLT-Compliant Lightning Network Implementation [Incomplete] 19:06 <@roasbeef> a proper faul-tolerant node is pretty...involved 19:06 <@roasbeef> lit doesn't implement multi-hop htlc's, or many components of the spec 19:07 <@roasbeef> afaik there's no c++ implementatino 19:07 < zaptrem> Yeah, I'm surprised there are more than 3 *max* 19:07 <@roasbeef> there's a lot of moving parts in a mode impl lol 19:07 < zaptrem> Definitely. 19:08 <@roasbeef> there's "works most of the time", and then "works even when the computer is being beamed by gamma rays and the power grid is unstable" 19:08 < zaptrem> Things are moving along from what I can see 19:08 < zaptrem> , though 19:08 <@roasbeef> nearly there with lnd :D 19:08 <@roasbeef> just a few persistence things in the htlc switch 19:08 <@roasbeef> and seed/recovery along with wallet key derivation 19:08 < zaptrem> Will I want to recreate all of my channels every time I update my node? 19:08 <@roasbeef> shouldn't need to 19:09 <@roasbeef> but if you scan the commits, we'll be doing a better job of pointing out which ones inlude breaking db changes 19:09 < zaptrem> I'm using Bitcoind instead of Btcd for its faster syncing. 19:09 <@roasbeef> there's a migration structure in place, but isn't really being used as we haven't puyt out a stable releease yet 19:09 <@roasbeef> np there, need to optimize btcd a bit more, soooo many things to do :p 19:09 -!- cloaks [~noty@unaffiliated/cloaks] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:10 < crom__> why do you need a go implementation of bitcoin at all? 19:11 < crom__> why not just use bitcoind 19:11 -!- cloaks [~noty@unaffiliated/cloaks] has joined #lnd 19:11 <@roasbeef> becuz mono cultures are bad mkay 19:12 <@roasbeef> bitcoind needs like 1gb+ of ram just to even compile it, and takes minutes to do so 19:12 < crom__> I see 19:12 <@roasbeef> btcd compiles in seconds, is highly concurrent, and has a robust rpc server that can do thing slike actually dish out notifications 19:12 < zaptrem> Also, way too much wacky legacy code 19:12 < zaptrem> (in bitcoind) 19:12 < crom__> ok, thx 19:13 <@roasbeef> the show must go on 19:13 < crom__> :D 19:13 <@roasbeef> i'd say btcd is also easier for peeps newer to bitcoin to dig into 19:13 <@roasbeef> don't need to know years of past project specific history 19:13 < zaptrem> Were there any breaking changes to LND over the weekend? Lots of bug fixing activity. 19:13 <@roasbeef> lots of fixes on the rest interface, bug fixes, but no breaking changes 19:14 <@roasbeef> started to fix a major annoyance, but stopped to finish review of high prio items 19:14 <@roasbeef> (basically the eternal zombie chrun on testnet) 19:14 <@roasbeef> also it's still the weekend :D 19:14 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:14 < zaptrem> So safe to shut down, replace binary, and start up again on the hub test node I mentioned. 19:15 <@roasbeef> should be 19:15 <@roasbeef> if not `git reflog` is your friend 19:15 < zaptrem> Thanks 19:16 < zaptrem> Only the weekend for a few more hours though, onward! Let me know if there's anything those who doesn't know any Go can do to help out. 19:17 <@roasbeef> help test https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/518? 19:17 <@roasbeef> initial port mapping and nat traversal 19:17 < zaptrem> Can I run multiple LND instances simultaneously? 19:18 <@roasbeef> yeh just need to set their listening interfaces and datadirs/logdirs properly 19:18 <@roasbeef> see sample-lnd.conf 19:22 < zaptrem> Might just create another testnet node. 19:22 <@roasbeef> that works too :p 19:22 <@roasbeef> there's a docker setup also, if you're familar with that 19:23 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 19:23 < zaptrem> I am, but my VPS provider can't understand the difference between a Bitcoin node and a Bitcoin miner so I'm stuck on my desktop. 19:35 < zaptrem> Will LND advertise accept incoming channel creation from new nodes (probably created by their Autopilots) by default when --externalip is used? 19:36 <@roasbeef> yeh 19:38 < zaptrem> To the untrained eye, the default heuristic currently looks pretty random. Does it prefer well connected nodes over others, or is it 100% random? 19:42 <@roasbeef> isn't random, but does have some jitter innit 19:42 -!- crom__ [b00a89b3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.10.137.179] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43 < zaptrem> Does it aim for well connected nodes? Or try to avoid centralization 19:44 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@unaffiliated/galileopy] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:45 <@roasbeef> what's centralization mean? 19:58 -!- Ytxyyuu [~Ytxyyuu@78-71-46-150-no260.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:59 < mlz> roasbeef, you know 19:59 <@roasbeef> orly? 19:59 < mlz> it's what fake-satoshi tells them 19:59 <@roasbeef> kek 20:00 < mlz> :D 20:00 < mlz> going to take awhile to remove reddit retardation if it can be done 20:04 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:08 < zaptrem> Aww come on @mlz, I'm better than that. 20:09 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] alexbosworth opened pull request #688: trivial: typo (master...patch-2) https://git.io/vNyG6 20:09 < zaptrem> (If I wasn't I wouldn't be here :P) 20:10 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:10 < zaptrem> I'm just considering the effects of a massively connected node and whether Autopilot aims to aid or avoid that situation 20:11 < mlz> you're still stuck there 20:11 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 20:12 < zaptrem> hm? 20:12 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: don't see an issue, there're natural incentives that tend towards increased path diveristy, start from 1 node, that goes down, then 2 then 3 and so on 20:12 < zaptrem> I considered that too. 20:15 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 20:20 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:20 < zaptrem_> Test 20:21 < zaptrem_> Go away fake zaptrem, for now I am the real zaptrem! 20:21 < zaptrem> ...fine. 20:21 -!- zaptrem [4a4716aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.71.22.170] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:22 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #lnd [] 20:22 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:23 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 20:24 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:26 -!- zaptrem_ [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:34 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:35 < zaptrem> Is it possible to persist a Lightning wallet across devices? (E.g., I have the same wallet open on both my phone, computer, and microwave, so as long as one of those is on my funds are safe) 20:44 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20:45 -!- TheLive1 [~TheLive1@unaffiliated/thelive1] has joined #lnd 20:45 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 20:53 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:55 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ncbgvmobsysfmjlj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:56 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20:56 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:58 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 21:00 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: all three instances would need to ensure they replicate the state amongst them 21:01 < zaptrem> If you wrote anything before your most recent message, I missed it due to a disconnect. 21:03 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com] 21:08 <@roasbeef> 00:00 <@roasbeef> zaptrem: all three instances would need to ensure they replicate the state amongst them 21:08 <@roasbeef> oh no that was it 21:11 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 21:15 -!- zaptrem [~Mutter@cpe-74-71-22-170.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 21:24 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 21:32 < Veggen> roasbeef: got errors trying to install that branch (with natpt etc) 21:32 < Veggen> ./breacharbiter.go:348:41: cannot use &chanPoint (type *"github.com/johng/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcd/wire".OutPoint) as type *"github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/github.com/roasbeef/btcd/wire".OutPoint in argument to b.cfg.DB.MarkChanFullyClosed 21:32 <@roasbeef> did you do `glide install` beforehand? 21:32 < Veggen> yah. 21:32 < Veggen> seems it crashes with my old install. 21:32 <@roasbeef> ah yeh that's just even a compile error, it hasn't been rebased under master 21:33 < Veggen> how to fix? 21:33 <@roasbeef> gotta do it manually to test on the branch, you'll need to likely correct that conclift though 21:34 <@roasbeef> or just pull master in locally 21:35 < Veggen> hmm. I checked out johng/lnd in a totally different tree. 21:36 <@roasbeef> ohh, the paths are off 21:36 <@roasbeef> > johng/lnd/vendor/ 21:37 <@roasbeef> that should just point to the regular lnd directory 21:37 <@roasbeef> you'll need to actually pull in those changes to the OG directory, due to the way pathing works in go 21:37 < Veggen> oh, ok. 21:38 < Veggen> hmm, not that heavy git user :) 21:38 <@roasbeef> https://help.github.com/articles/checking-out-pull-requests-locally/ 21:38 <@roasbeef> or just check out that, then you can do like `git checkout origin/pr/323` 21:39 < Veggen> 518? 21:57 < Veggen> hmmf...why do I get channels with chan_id 0 ? 21:57 < Veggen> happened before. 22:05 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 22:05 <@roasbeef> Veggen: would mean the channel hasn't fully confirmed yet, it's not set in the db until the specified number of confs has been reached 22:07 < Veggen> hrmf, ok. Seems my close of it was a bit premature then :) 22:12 -!- Soopaman [~soopaman@198.16.243.66] has joined #lnd 22:12 < Soopaman> greetings all 22:13 < Soopaman> anyone awake/around? 22:19 < Veggen> sure. 22:23 -!- erols [~erols@dhcp-077-251-249-036.chello.nl] has joined #lnd 22:25 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xavieucymdtpcvrr] has joined #lnd 22:31 -!- conanoc [6f5b8922@gateway/web/freenode/ip.111.91.137.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:47 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@2602:306:b8b6:b970:78db:9b9:7d1a:75de] has joined #lnd 22:51 -!- erols [~erols@dhcp-077-251-249-036.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: erols] 23:04 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:14 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 23:16 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Client Quit] 23:16 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has joined #lnd 23:17 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [AndBobsYou@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/andbobsyouruncle] has quit [Client Quit] 23:18 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 23:28 -!- Styils [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34 < Soopaman> If I want to create a lightning node on a server with the proper amount of storage, is there a way to create smaller instances on rpi's that don't have enough storage? 23:38 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:50 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has joined #lnd