--- Day changed Sat Feb 10 2018 00:07 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:19 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@2a01:c22:7a12:d500:ec09:35f3:d59:10ee] has joined #lnd 00:20 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:30 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lnd 00:30 -!- ppp [47c74857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.199.72.87] has joined #lnd 00:31 -!- ppp [47c74857@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.199.72.87] has quit [Client Quit] 00:43 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 00:45 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@2a01:c22:7a12:d500:ec09:35f3:d59:10ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:50 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@x5ce385e6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 00:51 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Quit: dionysus69] 00:52 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 00:52 < grzs> we had a streaker :) 00:56 < midnightmagic> lol 01:07 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Quit: See You Later] 01:08 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 01:11 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:a52d:8e07:df05:4b01] has joined #lnd 01:23 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:24 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:25 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 01:33 < grzs> midnightmagic: did you call? 01:33 < midnightmagic> For a streaker? Definitely not. 01:37 -!- cryptodechange_ [~cryptodec@host86-144-239-58.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 01:37 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-120-64.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:38 -!- cryptodechange [~cryptodec@host86-172-250-93.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:38 -!- cryptodechange_ is now known as cryptodechange 01:56 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:59 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@x5ce385e6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:02 -!- rabidus [~rabidus@91-145-120-64.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lnd 02:08 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lnd 02:25 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 02:26 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:12 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkkkrqjijchndkae] has joined #lnd 03:29 -!- iv4n [~iv4n@1.46.162.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:31 < grzs> midnightmagic: the number he specifically told us to call 04:03 < midnightmagic> grzs: Oh! Hah, no. Did you? 04:03 < midnightmagic> Was it busy? 04:04 < grzs> :) 04:16 < booyah> is it yet implemented to export state of my node that allows me to confirm what invoices were paid, along with crypto proofs? 04:16 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 04:32 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 04:39 < mlz> hey midnightmagic :D 04:47 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lnd 04:57 < midnightmagic> hey 04:59 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 05:02 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:11 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 05:15 -!- sovjet_ [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:21 < MaxSan> let me get this 05:21 < MaxSan> at 10:30 on roasbeef video on hardening lightning 05:21 < MaxSan> it basically answers this above question ^^ 05:21 < MaxSan> (01:00:35 PM) MaxSan: Can a watching third party node essentially have a deterministic seed that can trapdoor the HTLC in the event of an unexpected onchain movement in regards to a security breach? So without re-sharing any information a third party can onook to a payment channel and when "unexpected" behavior happens, essentially sweep it to a safety deposit 05:22 < MaxSan> with symmetric state escape mechanism 05:23 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkkkrqjijchndkae] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:38 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 05:42 -!- iv4n [~iv4n@1.46.9.153] has joined #lnd 05:49 < mlz> booyah, are you running lnd? 05:51 < booyah> mlz: why? 05:51 < booyah> oh in regards to my question. It was a general Q, can any LN do it now, are there plans to. mlz 06:03 < mlz> if you run lnd then you know the answer 06:09 < mlz> cool.. i got two nodes (testnet) on the same server in two different users, now they can have channels and pay to each other.. but that was somehow broken a few days ago 06:31 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lnd 06:42 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:42 -!- dionysus70 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 06:44 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:44 -!- dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 06:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lnd 07:04 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:06 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 07:11 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-204-28-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:17 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 08:18 < slip> Node has been up for a week or so and worked perfectly. This morning I started getting this error. 08:18 < slip> [ERR] SRVR: unable to get channel links: unable to locate channel link bydestination hop id 02f6725f9c1c40333b67faea92fd211c183050f28df32cac3f9d69685fe9665432 08:18 -!- lnostdal_ [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 08:20 < slip> umm yeah that is sleepyark. He should still be up. Any ideas what this means? 08:22 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:25 < booyah> what is current state of any bugs in LN, did anyone anytime lost any funds? 08:28 < slip> booyah, not me not yet. Just a matter of time. Cost only 50 cents to open a channel and dropped in about 20 bucks so who cares if I do. 08:28 < slip> booyah, got stickers coming out of my ass 08:28 -!- lnostdal_ [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:29 -!- SevenTimes__ [SevenTimes@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/seventimes] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:35 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has joined #lnd 08:41 -!- lnostdal_ [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 08:52 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has joined #lnd 09:09 -!- iv4n [~iv4n@1.46.9.153] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14 -!- mbaril010 [~valkir_cr@2601:646:c100:7557:e:ec16:aca3:4311] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- marshmallow [~xyz@unaffiliated/marshmallow] has joined #lnd 09:17 < marshmallow> Hello, there are some thing which are not clear. So, do I have to pay the btc network fee when I move funds into an LN channel? Or can I use an LN channel already opened (by others?) and never pay the cost of opening the channel? 09:29 < AndyS2> marshmallow: if someone pays you over ln, they might create a channel with you for that 09:29 < AndyS2> then they'd pay the fees, I guess 09:35 < zyp> if you already have other channels open, they might find a route to you through one of those 09:55 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 09:59 -!- JackH [~laptop@host-80-47-80-55.as13285.net] has joined #lnd 10:06 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhgznrvvphilmobx] has joined #lnd 10:08 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:31 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@2a01:c22:7a12:d500:ec09:35f3:d59:10ee] has joined #lnd 10:36 -!- tenev [~tenev@176-12-6-187.pon.spectrumnet.bg] has joined #lnd 10:38 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:46 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [] 10:49 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 10:57 -!- kunla [~kunla@148.63.54.31] has joined #lnd 11:29 -!- kunla [~kunla@148.63.54.31] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:30 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 11:31 < DraconPern> heya, just got my lnd up and running waiting for funding on testnet to confirm 11:31 < DraconPern> I am curious why lnd can't just use bitcoind's wallet 11:35 < zyp> because lnd is not tied that closely to bitcoind 11:36 < zyp> keep in mind lnd doesn't need bitcoind at all, you can replace it with another blockchain backend, which doesn't necessarily have a wallet at all 11:37 < zyp> see neutrino for instance 11:38 < mlz> DraconPern, keep running bitcoind if you can 11:38 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:38 < mlz> if you run neutrino you have to depend on someone's charity for a bitcoin full node 11:44 < DraconPern> yeah, I got a few full node running just to see how things work 11:45 < zyp> I didn't make any arguments for or against using bitcoind, just explaining how relying on bitcoind's wallet is not beneficial 11:46 < DraconPern> hmm.. what happen if lnd can directly use the backend's addresses? 11:46 < DraconPern> that way.. there's no need to do that initial fund. 11:47 < zyp> assuming you already have funds in the bitcoind wallet 11:48 < zyp> if either is empty, there's not really a difference 11:48 < DraconPern> hmm.. how about an import? 11:51 < DraconPern> my initial impression (just setting it up) was that lnd acts like a wallet software 11:52 < zyp> that is correct 11:53 < DraconPern> I hope I can contribute, need to read up on go though. I mainly c++. 11:54 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:56 < DraconPern> hmm. this bug sounds kind of like what I was talking about? https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/478 11:57 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 11:58 < slip> why do I get "peer_id": 0 when I do ... 11:58 < slip> lncli connect 02f6725f9c1c40333b67faea92fd211c183050f28df32cac3f9d69685fe9665432@104.198.32.198:9735 11:58 < slip> dat booshit 11:58 < slip> can anybody else make a peer connection to that ? 11:59 < slip> Was connected to sleepyark for a week. looks like he is up but I am not sure. 12:14 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 12:21 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uhgznrvvphilmobx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:21 < DraconPern> slip, I think it's a bug 12:22 < DraconPern> getpeers return the right id 12:22 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 12:22 < DraconPern> err listpeers 12:22 < mlz> slip, did you update but didn't close out your channel? 12:23 < DraconPern> mlz, you get that output if you just connect w/o a channel 12:23 < mlz> DraconPern, only eclair has their software to send coins from bitcoin core wallet to open a channel (if you use their desktop app) 12:24 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 12:24 < slip> mlz, wokeup this morning and sleepyark was no longer connected to me. Don't know why. Backed up my wallet.dat and deleted .lnd. Did a upgrade and used the old db. Seems to work 12:24 < slip> mlz, but I had not open channels when I deleted .lnd and did the upgrade 12:24 < mlz> slip, you did an update and put the old db back? 12:24 < slip> yeah 12:25 < slip> Just the wallet.db 12:25 < mlz> wait.. when was your last update before this last update? 12:25 < slip> mlz, like a week ago 12:26 < mlz> hm before or after roasbeef did a huge update in changing the db directory? 12:26 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 12:28 < slip> mlz, Ill send the funds to a on chain wallet and just do reinstall. Yeah roasbeef said something last night about ppl having upgrade issues iirc. 12:29 < slip> can lnd btcd send to a bech32 wallet? Thought I would toss up Electrum and try it out. 12:29 < slip> the sendcoins thingy 12:30 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@67.240.56.42] has joined #lnd 12:33 < DraconPern> hum.. curious, does https://faucet.lightning.community/ have a way to see a 'sending' channel? 12:34 < DraconPern> I assume the openchannel command online opens an unidirectional channel? 12:40 < mlz> btcd and bitcoind are used as backends, not as wallets, lnd has its own wallet in wallet.db 12:40 -!- marshmallow [~xyz@unaffiliated/marshmallow] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 12:41 < mlz> backends to scan the blockchain for tx verifications 12:42 -!- jigawatt [2f2ae8cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.42.232.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:47 -!- tenev [~tenev@176-12-6-187.pon.spectrumnet.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:52 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has joined #lnd 12:54 < slip> Can sendcoins send to a BIP173 wallet? 12:58 < mlz> sure 12:59 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:00 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 13:02 < mlz> lnd wallet has been compatible to native segwit for a long time, and roasbeef created his own native segwit address type even before we heard of bech32 13:03 < mlz> i think he used bip142, then core devs ditched that bip and switched to bech32 so roasbeef again got it right away for lnd wallet 13:03 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lnd 13:11 < blademccool> notices that listinvoices is showing a ton of expired invoices that can't be paid. should probably purge unpayable invoices from memory. 13:13 -!- marijnfs [~smuxi@2a01:c22:7a12:d500:ec09:35f3:d59:10ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:14 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:15 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@67.240.56.42] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 13:16 < slip> Is there a way mlz thx. One really annoying detail is trying to send the entire wallet balance but not having the funds since the fee is not deducted. 13:16 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 13:16 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 13:16 < slip> Is there a way to have the fee deducted or am I just doing it wrong? 13:17 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:33 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:34 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:40 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:41 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-swjingryjasdynyy] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- pvl1 [pi@unaffiliated/pvl1] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- devachandra [~devachand@netris.ru] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- weex [sid152634@fsf/member/weex] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- jl2012 [sid133844@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-abyxswqabcudhbfl] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- stevenroose [~steven@vps.weuste.club] has joined #lnd 13:42 < DraconPern> don't mind me... my isp is testing disconnects for me lol.. 13:43 -!- eamonnw [~eamonnw@iceland.sdf.org] has joined #lnd 13:44 < DraconPern> okay, this may sound dumb, is there a easy way to look at the stack 13:45 -!- JackH [~laptop@host-80-47-80-55.as13285.net] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:72a3:5780:f492:1888] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- drrty [~drrty@209.205.123.174] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- ptoohill [~ptoohill@2001:4800:7813:516:be76:4eff:fe04:487b] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- ThisAsYou [sid214210@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mxjzullkumdhsbra] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- Bosma [sid103570@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qzxjlyiuyymbrimi] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- lio17 [~lio17@80.ip-145-239-89.eu] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- slip [~slim@s91904427.blix.com] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- mlz [~IRCIdent@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.25.237] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- tristian [~tristian@unaffiliated/tristian] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- tm604 [~tom@pdpc/supporter/professional/tm604] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- Tootoot222 [~Toot@unaffiliated/toottoot222] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- fattrat [~fattrat@85.214.132.154] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- q-biq [q-biq@unaffiiliated/q-biq] has joined #lnd 13:45 -!- haakonn [~haakonn@pdpc/supporter/active/haakonn] has joined #lnd 13:46 <@roasbeef> slip: could be the case it (c-lightning) got in some weird error state, then will refuse to connect until like 100 blocks or something like that 13:46 -!- rrol[m] [rrolmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-kyoecxinvusskcbj] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:46 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-swjingryjasdynyy] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:46 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lxewjvbrknsligtw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fhkvxdlyyvfzkagr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-veevvcetxgbwtnxt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-faekecbgylomhrbj] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:46 -!- cjd[m] [cdelisle1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-thuxcpkwewyhdejb] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:47 -!- dymurray [dymurray@nat/redhat/session] has joined #lnd 13:48 -!- dymurray [dymurray@nat/redhat/session] has quit [Changing host] 13:48 -!- dymurray [dymurray@nat/redhat/x-xejuwennxfkyumhh] has joined #lnd 13:58 -!- kunla [~kunla@81.193.53.189] has joined #lnd 14:00 < slip> roasbeef, oh its like that huh. c-lightning is getting all cool and shit. 14:00 <@roasbeef> ? 14:00 <@roasbeef> u wot m8? 14:00 < slip> roasbeef, refuse to connect until like 100 blocks or something like that 14:01 <@roasbeef> if it closed out a chan 14:01 < slip> roasbeef, yeah they did. Was not my fault. 14:10 < DraconPern> roasbeef, I just watched the BPASE '18 talk 14:11 < mlz> roasbeef, i hope someone will open a better store using LND when LND is ready for mainnet :D 14:11 < DraconPern> I am curious, is the info on https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/understanding-the-lightning-network-part-building-a-bidirectional-payment-channel-1464710791/ still good? 14:13 <@roasbeef> DraconPern: yes it's a very good high-level explanation on how channels work 14:14 < DraconPern> cool 14:19 < DraconPern> So understand the high level, but there still a big gap to understanding lnd it seems like. 14:20 < grubles> what's up with blockchain's thunder? 14:20 < grubles> no commits in 10 months? 14:21 < slip> mlz yeah think bip39 is already supported. Saw something about it in github 14:21 < mlz> no, it's a PR but roasbeef changed his mind, he's going to use something else, but if you need it for mainnet it's still good to have right now 14:21 < slip> mlz, ah 14:22 <@roasbeef> grubles: it's abandoned afaik 14:22 < grubles> hm any idea why? 14:23 <@roasbeef> they added eth and bcash instead? 14:23 <@roasbeef> idk 14:29 <@roasbeef> grubles: they hired a dev who works on open source stuff exculsively afaik, but he dables with the other LN projects, so idk if they're gonna revive thunder, it's pretty far out of spec with how things are looking atm 14:29 <@roasbeef> the real lsat commit on the project was over 2 years ago 14:30 <@roasbeef> (as in substantial updates) 14:30 < grubles> i see 14:30 <@roasbeef> slip: yeh there's a seed format we have in the works, it isn't bip39 tho: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/719#issuecomment-362769025 14:31 <@roasbeef> it encodes a version, the wallet's birthday, and the entropy, runs that thru a strong psuedo random permutation, then encodes the ciphertext using the word lis 14:31 <@roasbeef> t 14:31 <@roasbeef> fwiw you can take an old bip39 seed (what you get after runnin the mnenic thru with the kdf) then encode it with this format 14:32 <@roasbeef> working on updating the internal wallet atm to let key derivation be a bit more flexible, whereas atm it always assumes bip44 14:32 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:32 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 14:37 < slip> roasbeef, looks cool! Cant wait to see it! 14:37 -!- BladeMcCool_ [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lnd 14:38 < slip> Just paid 30 cents to open a channel and it was open first block to come by 14:38 < slip> https://blockchain.info/tx/dc83873ae70ae3a064f42fecf50561dbb72edab1707f350f835c22d2652efece 14:39 <@roasbeef> also there's a PR for pruned node support now 14:39 < slip> roasbeef, lot of ppl going to love that 14:39 <@roasbeef> yee shouts out to wilmer 14:41 -!- blademccool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:42 < slip> roasbeef, Would be cool as hell if we see lighting support [one day] on hw wallets. My Trezor T should be coming next month. Any talk about hw? 14:46 < slip> watch -n1 'grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |sort -k4rn' 14:46 < DraconPern> hmm 6+ conf, but listchannel shows nothing, what am I missing... https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/6ccd44fae760d8bb039328edff590e9229ee71c281f329542dba1f80de0a8267/ 14:49 < DraconPern> command I used is lncli openchannel 02fa77e0f4ca666f7d158c4bb6675d1436e339903a9feeeaacbd6e55021b98e7ee 9000 14:50 < DraconPern> the lightning channel faucet 14:52 < DraconPern> oh, i guess this is a better link https://testnet.blockchain.info/tx/6ccd44fae760d8bb039328edff590e9229ee71c281f329542dba1f80de0a8267?show_adv=true 14:53 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 15:06 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fjbslhmjiqdaxmbf] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- cjd[m] [cdelisle1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dkhvbnjhesyehmdm] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- rrol[m] [rrolmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qeinqjljnqnkqeyo] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gimhvzgvxgmwwhjw] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- georgeangel[m] [georgeange@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-isjpuzqwqjzqdenc] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bsunmmckmroajbbq] has joined #lnd 15:15 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-llgopkgdbzwtbbuc] has joined #lnd 15:21 -!- BladeMcCool_ [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:24 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has joined #lnd 15:24 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 15:26 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:28 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has joined #lnd 15:32 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 15:43 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 15:44 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:a52d:8e07:df05:4b01] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:46 -!- bosinova [d13a8804@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.58.136.4] has joined #lnd 15:50 -!- bosinova [d13a8804@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.58.136.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:08 -!- kunla [~kunla@81.193.53.189] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:09 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:10 < slip> Its it possible to just send a tip without them asking in advance? 16:11 < slip> Think I saw something like that with Eclair a while back. 16:12 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llrakklndjzbmpes] has joined #lnd 16:12 -!- lnostdal_ [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:13 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@gateway/tor-sasl/lnostdal] has joined #lnd 16:18 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl10-85-39.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lnd 16:21 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 16:21 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lnd 16:23 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 16:24 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:32 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:39 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 16:41 < DraconPern> anyone trying lnd with bitcoind? 16:52 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:53 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 16:56 -!- Osso [~osso@37.168.216.21] has joined #lnd 17:03 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl10-85-39.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:06 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl10-85-39.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lnd 17:09 < DraconPern> sigh. well, anyways.. trying to open a channel didn't work for me 17:11 < grubles> yeah i had it working previously DraconPern 17:12 < DraconPern> I see the channel tx's confirmed but... lnd seems to have just forgotten it 17:14 < DraconPern> curious, what command have worked for you so far? grubles 17:16 < grubles> worked for what 17:16 < DraconPern> you said working previously 17:20 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:34 < mlz> DraconPern, i've been running lnd nodes with bitcoind 17:34 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 17:34 < mlz> me and someone else were the first to test bitcoind with lnd :P 17:35 < mlz> (not counting the devs, ofc) 17:35 < DraconPern> ahhh 17:37 < DraconPern> but silent errors... :( 18:28 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl10-85-39.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 18:36 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:38 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:03 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:07 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has joined #lnd 19:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has joined #lnd 19:28 -!- iv4n [~iv4n@1.46.9.153] has joined #lnd 19:39 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:40 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:41 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 19:43 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:07 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has joined #lnd 20:59 -!- Osso [~osso@37.168.216.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:04 -!- DraconPern [~DraconPer@cpe-67-11-139-36.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:06 -!- B0g4r7 [nobody@208.76.201.166] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:07 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.219.137.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:48 -!- creslin [~textual@deposing-waterfront.volia.net] has joined #lnd 23:00 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:38 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41 -!- tenev [~tenev@176-12-6-187.pon.spectrumnet.bg] has joined #lnd 23:55 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 23:59 -!- tenev [~tenev@176-12-6-187.pon.spectrumnet.bg] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]