--- Day changed Mon Mar 26 2018 00:00 < Veggen> can do lsof - p 00:11 < cluelessperson> sweet 00:11 < cluelessperson> this is working 00:11 < cluelessperson> and I could produce my own gui around it quite easily given this rpc 00:11 < cluelessperson> this is actually really well done. :) 00:14 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has joined #lnd 00:16 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:24 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 00:29 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 00:35 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:48 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 00:49 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 00:58 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 00:58 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 00:59 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:03 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 01:05 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:13 -!- naribia [2fbd49aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.189.73.170] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:16 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 01:17 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 01:30 -!- justice [~user@103.77.78.240] has joined #lnd 01:56 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 02:05 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 02:11 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 02:45 -!- offerm [c7cb6522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.203.101.34] has joined #lnd 02:52 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 02:57 < CubicEarths> cluelessperson: Do have an open channel? 03:00 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Quit: dionysus69] 03:01 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 03:01 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Client Quit] 03:04 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 03:20 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Quit: dionysus69] 03:21 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 03:56 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 04:02 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:02 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 04:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:38 -!- sepsekabbasap [57d51608@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.213.22.8] has joined #lnd 04:39 < sepsekabbasap> so yeah .. running a Lightning Node (whoohoo!) not really sure what all the logs mean still 04:39 < sepsekabbasap> now I suppose I need to fund it somehow. 04:39 < sepsekabbasap> To create channels 04:39 < sepsekabbasap> otherwise I'm not routing anything.... or am I? 04:39 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-37-38-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 04:40 < sepsekabbasap> If I haven't funded any channels yet, how come that I'm seeing log messages saying: 04:40 < sepsekabbasap> > New channel update applied: 04:40 < sepsekabbasap> and Received ChannelUpdate(chain_hash= 04:44 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-126-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:49 < lndbot> You are receiving network updates from the peers you are connected too. 05:08 -!- _Sam-- [greybits@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sam--/x-37783179] has joined #lnd 05:08 -!- jambi [~jim@213.152.161.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:10 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 05:17 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 05:31 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 05:35 -!- Mark__ [5bd4cf04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.212.207.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:36 < sepsekabbasap> Is there anybody here that can answer some basic questions? 05:37 -!- MaxSan [~user@91.207.102.163] has joined #lnd 05:37 < sepsekabbasap> If I fund the main bitcoin account created by LND .. would the node then automatically fund channels? Or should I specify the amounts too? 05:38 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:39 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 05:40 -!- tdtrgrdg [4f6ec9c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.110.201.201] has joined #lnd 05:47 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 05:49 -!- offerm [c7cb6522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.203.101.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:51 < NoImNotNineVolt> pretty sure you need to establish your own channels. 05:51 < NoImNotNineVolt> though there is an 'autopilot', and i have no idea what it does. 05:56 < rabidus> how about lnd autopilot? 05:56 < sepsekabbasap> Is there a manual somewhere on how to specify the addresses that you want to create a channel with? 05:57 <@mlz> the manual is in your software 05:57 <@mlz> you're running linux? 05:57 < sepsekabbasap> yeah 05:57 <@mlz> lncli openchannel -h 05:58 < sepsekabbasap> I can read the software, but that's a bit more time than I'm willing to invest right now. I thought LND was at the beta-point where the features for users are clear and should be somewhat usable 05:58 < sepsekabbasap> Thanks... I'll have a look at those options in `lncli openchannel` 05:59 <@mlz> it takes longer to spend time in complaining than learning 05:59 < rabidus> ^ 06:00 < sepsekabbasap> If you're implying that I'm complaining, please don't... I was explaining my goals. 06:01 < rabidus> lncli help and google is massive friend to you then 06:02 < sepsekabbasap> Yes, however not as good as people that are willing to listen to you and are better at understanding your goals than Google at this point in time. 06:03 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:15 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:17 <@mlz> sepsekabbasap, if this is your first time to install LND and you are not familiar with how to use, i'd strongly suggest you to run it on TESTNET, and not Mainnet, test coins are free and if you lose them, it doesn't matter 06:18 <@mlz> sepsekabbasap, most people who run LND nodes on mainnet have learned first by using Testnet 06:20 -!- botka [~nodebot@static.171.39.76.144.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:20 -!- botka [~nodebot@static.171.39.76.144.clients.your-server.de] has joined #lnd 06:23 -!- User__ [~User@133-203.dorm.ncu.edu.tw] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:24 -!- ken2812221 [~User@133-203.dorm.ncu.edu.tw] has joined #lnd 06:27 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 06:28 < sepsekabbasap> That's fine. Although losing actual coins makes more impact as a lesson ;) 06:36 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:43 -!- MaxSan [~user@91.207.102.163] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50 -!- dougsland [douglas@nat/redhat/x-apsuuyykmgujvhor] has joined #lnd 06:58 -!- _Sam-- [greybits@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sam--/x-37783179] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:00 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vqoulstqjkxoeqen] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:04 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 07:04 -!- justice [~user@103.77.78.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:11 -!- jim__ [~jim@213.152.161.25] has joined #lnd 07:11 -!- _Sam-- [greybits@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sam--/x-37783179] has joined #lnd 07:19 -!- jim__ [~jim@213.152.161.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:20 -!- jim__ [~jim@213.152.161.25] has joined #lnd 07:22 -!- justice [~user@103.77.78.248] has joined #lnd 07:28 -!- nixbox [~kodi@c-69-181-66-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:29 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:2072:11ba:3449:fbf4] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:29 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 07:41 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:5dff:aed9:f184:8dfb] has joined #lnd 07:42 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:49 -!- sepsekabbasap [57d51608@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.213.22.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:02 -!- sepsekabbasap [3e8c842e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.140.132.46] has joined #lnd 08:04 < sepsekabbasap> if I close channels, delete my old keys and regenerate a new wallet... is there nothing left to identify me as the same node? 08:05 < sepsekabbasap> Apart from IP address and alias .... 08:07 < lndbot> Nope, the IP will be the only thing I'm aware of that will correlate the two (and alias/color if you have them set) 08:07 < sepsekabbasap> I happened to find the `autopilot` config option in ~/.lnd/lnd.conf and have set it to =1 and max channels =5 (did not activate the allocation part... assuming that default is 100%) 08:11 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 08:13 < sepsekabbasap> Now that I started it, without funding the local wallet, it doesn't seem to give any errors. However I don't see any open channels with `lncli listchannels` 08:20 -!- sepsekabbasap [3e8c842e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.140.132.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:23 < lndbot> if you create new keys, you are starting from scratch 08:23 < lndbot> channels included 08:36 < NoImNotNineVolt> lnd may actually motivate me to learn golang. 08:42 < lndbot> I think it's a good balance between maintainability, readability and proper handling of low-level data structures -- it makes it just a little bit harder to do things the wrong way. 08:43 < Veggen> I didn't know any goland too. But I have done a patch that I submitted (and one that I didn't submit, someone beat me to it :) to LND. 08:43 < NoImNotNineVolt> i'll disagree with the first two points on the basis that nobody knows golang :P 08:44 < lndbot> what do you mean nobody knows golang? 08:45 < NoImNotNineVolt> it's not exactly java. 08:45 < NoImNotNineVolt> (not that i'm saying lnd [or anything, really] should be written in java) 08:45 -!- sebapkessap [51cfa27c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.162.124] has joined #lnd 08:46 < lndbot> ah, you're just saying there are relatively few Golang developers in relation to other languages 08:46 < NoImNotNineVolt> indeed. 08:48 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has joined #lnd 08:48 < NoImNotNineVolt> trying to weigh whether it's easier for me to learn golang and play with autopilot heuristics than to build something outside of lnd in my language of choice. 08:49 < lndbot> I suggest just doing it in Go natively, but I may be a little biased. My reasoning is Go is (can be) a pretty simple scripting language too, plus any code you do write can be PR'd against the main repo if you end up making something cool. 08:50 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:53 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 08:58 -!- fusion44 [~fusion44@p5483A68A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 09:06 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 09:15 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 09:17 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 09:17 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lnd 09:23 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has joined #lnd 09:37 < sebapkessap> Is there a history of this IRC channel? 09:38 < sebapkessap> I had to re-connect and am not sure if anybody responded to my previous questions above... 09:40 -!- nizhanali [ddde8322@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.222.131.34] has joined #lnd 09:41 < nizhanali> Hi,everyone. Someone know c-lightning ? 09:41 < nizhanali> I have some problems for run c-lightning 09:42 -!- LN-Hero [c434540c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.84.12] has joined #lnd 09:44 <@mlz> nizhanali, there's #c-lightning channel you can join 09:45 -!- LN-Hero [c434540c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.52.84.12] has quit [Client Quit] 09:45 < nizhanali> Thanks！@LN-Hero 09:45 < nizhanali> Hi,everyone. I have some problems for run c-lightning . 09:46 < nizhanali> I set up a bitcoin miannet node . When i pay 0.0005btc for my bitcoin address. Command looks like 'docker exec lightning lightning-cli newaddr { "address" : "3GudabJFZZXDsvWbrEWThZZizq8eCbed8R" } ' ，but no result is empty ' docker exec lightning lightning-cli listfunds { "outputs" : [ ], "channels" : [ ] } ' :joy: . Who know ? 09:47 < nizhanali> My local blockchain data is update new now 09:47 < nizhanali> docker logs bitcoind_mainnet --tail "10" 2018-03-26 16:03:18 UpdateTip: new best=0000000000000000003f96ed186921817036f9d24c6e532778166682fd8799d3 height=515258 version=0x20000000 log2_work=88.440768 tx=306802827 date='2018-03-26 16:03:02' progress=1.000000 cache=288.3MiB(1804930txo) 09:52 <@mlz> nizhanali, type this: /join #c-lightning 09:53 < lndbot> sebapkessap: my answer was "if you create new keys, you are starting from scratch, channels included" 09:53 < nizhanali> Sorry 09:54 -!- sebapkessap [51cfa27c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.207.162.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:12 -!- moriarty [~ql1yi8a1@unaffiliated/moriarty] has joined #lnd 10:13 -!- tdtrgrdg [4f6ec9c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.110.201.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:15 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 10:20 < k1234> @mlz: sorry. had to step away. About my "unconfirmed total." You asked for an unconfirmed tx. That's what so strange: I don't HAVE any unconfirmed txns. All of the transactions on lncli listchaintxns are confirmed... So: how is the "unconfirmed balance" calculated in lncli walletbalance? Something is screwy here... 10:23 <@mlz> k1234, no clue, maybe update your lnd source and see if it can help 10:23 < k1234> yeah... planning to. Am waiting for 0.4.1 and then I'll do so. 10:30 <@mlz> we've had updates, you can do now and not having to wait for 4.1 10:31 <@mlz> k1234, also, have you tried to withdraw to see if you can? 10:32 -!- brunocrt [b19fa555@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.159.165.85] has joined #lnd 10:33 -!- brunocrt [b19fa555@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.159.165.85] has quit [Client Quit] 10:37 < k1234> mlz: I have tried withdraw... able to withdraw confirmed balance, but not unconfirmed balance: [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = insufficient funds available to construct transaction 10:37 <@mlz> hm that's very odd 10:38 < k1234> i know... i'm confused... it's not a large amount, but I'm just trying to figure out what the hell is happening with the tx... 10:39 <@mlz> i normally would look into the logs to see if it says anything there 10:40 <@mlz> but it's been a few days right? so not sure if you still have the log 10:40 < k1234> agreed... any suggestions of waht I'm looking for? My log file is huge... 10:40 <@mlz> looking for the TXID of that amount 10:40 < k1234> yes: been like 5 days... but it seems the log files are getting gzipped in the log directory... some of them.... 10:40 <@mlz> s/looking/look/ 10:41 <@mlz> yea probably get the oldest log to see 10:44 < k1234> no matching txid... 10:49 < rabidus> my log files get filled up within hours 10:50 < rabidus> altough my debug level is info 10:50 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:51 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has joined #lnd 11:00 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has joined #lnd 11:07 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@45.32.62.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:08 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has joined #lnd 11:10 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@unaffiliated/galileopy] has joined #lnd 11:11 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has quit [Client Quit] 11:12 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@nagini-315.dynamic.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 11:12 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@116.192.18.160] has joined #lnd 11:13 -!- justice [~user@103.77.78.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:19 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has quit [Quit: Qapla] 11:20 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has joined #lnd 11:31 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has quit [Quit: Qapla] 11:32 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has joined #lnd 11:35 -!- epoch314 [~epoch314@199.254.238.208] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36 -!- mode/#lnd [+o roasbeef] by aakselrod 11:37 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@176.59.15.27] has joined #lnd 11:40 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@176.59.15.27] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:40 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@176.59.15.27] has joined #lnd 11:44 -!- conundrum [~conundrum@172.86.120.144] has quit [Disconnected by services] 11:45 -!- nizhanali [ddde8322@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.222.131.34] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:51 -!- conundrum_ [~conundrum@172.86.120.144] has joined #lnd 11:56 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lnd 12:10 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@nagini-315.dynamic.rpi.edu] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 12:14 < cluelessperson> CubicEarths: yup, I have open channels. :) 12:14 < cluelessperson> sepkabbasap: my understanding is you have to send bitcoin to the lightning wallet, then use that to fund a channel opening 12:33 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plpkxloxqkcrszzr] has joined #lnd 12:41 -!- oldmanpeabody [~oldmanpea@47.42.232.204] has joined #lnd 12:46 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@lithosphere-201.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has joined #lnd 12:51 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 12:57 -!- bjh4 [~bjh4@cpe-173-95-130-175.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 12:59 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] jimpo opened pull request #945: Move DecayedLog from lightning-onion to htlcswitch. (master...decayedlog) https://git.io/vxuUo 12:59 -!- rls [~rls@74.120.222.234] has joined #lnd 13:00 -!- sovjet [~sovjet@user182.c2.sevnica.kabelnet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:04 < cluelessperson> You guys seeing the news about the guy that lost his funds? 13:04 -!- galileopy [~galileopy@unaffiliated/galileopy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:04 < cluelessperson> Can you tell me if it was something he did, or is it remotely possible for a glitch to occur that can forfeit funds? 13:04 < cluelessperson> not that I blame you at all, it's still in testing and mainnet is told not to use 13:05 < cluelessperson> sounds like fud to me anyway 13:07 < lndbot> he restored from an old state and force closed his channels, which caused his peers with channels to automatically punish him since he published an old state. Network worked as it should but the user did something he shouldn't have, or maybe should have done with a lot more caution. 13:09 -!- fusion44 [~fusion44@p5483A68A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:10 < lndbot> in it's infancy, you can probably get other mainnet participants to close their channels with you if you lose data, rather than restoring from an old backup and trying to do it yourself. in any case the lesson learned is what it's always been: be #craeful, be prepared to lose funds, the software is still in beta (as is the entire Bitcoin network, too, btw), and a new lesson is understand what you're doing before you do it, and the risks of doing it. 13:12 -!- zapp-the-noob [c4de80af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.222.128.175] has joined #lnd 13:12 < zapp-the-noob> hi guys 13:12 < lndbot> maybe lessons most already know, but I've seen some people working with Lightning that do make me wonder if they're really properly educated on what they're doing and how the technology works, even just on the first layer, Bitcoin. 13:13 -!- omp_ [~daniel@47.42.232.204] has joined #lnd 13:15 < cluelessperson> zapp-the-noob: sup 13:16 < cluelessperson> tyzbit I'm just wondering if the user ran a command to rebroadcast the old state, or if the node came back online and did it for him 13:17 < cluelessperson> sounds to me like user error 13:17 < lndbot> they restored an old channeldb and then force closed 13:17 < lndbot> I'm not sure if lnd would have caught up normally after the restore and how much of it was user error, but it was definitely some percentage user error 13:18 < cluelessperson> tyzbit Ah. Still, a user himself trying to revert the application's database is stupid 13:19 < lndbot> I don't know the full details, but I don't think the user intended to revert the database. 13:19 < CubicEarths> I can think of at least one way to solve the "backup issue" (I think). Basically and LN txs would need to pass through one or more intermediary computers that the use trusted before being sent to the other side of the channel. 13:20 < CubicEarths> It seems like it must be a serial process. Attempting to backups in parallel would always open up the chance of something going wrong 13:20 -!- jim__ [~jim@213.152.161.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:20 -!- jim__ [~jim@213.152.161.25] has joined #lnd 13:20 < cluelessperson> tyzbit to be specific, If I deleted out my lightning node and reloaded the wallet from seed words, would the channels be preserved? 13:20 < lndbot> The benefits of open cryptos is the decentralization of trust, I don't think it would be a good thing to bolt on centralized trust again. I think it would end up making something less useful than either decentrlized or fully federated designs. 13:21 < lndbot> cluelessperson: today? No. If you need to update LND or restore, you should close all channels first and let them confirm, and probably also prevent new channels from opening with you. 13:22 < lndbot> in the future, there will be some level of channel resumption. 13:22 < cluelessperson> tyzbit If the user had simply restored his wallet and let the old channels die, would he have lost funds? 13:22 * cluelessperson is guessing no 13:24 < zapp-the-noob> sup mr.clueless 13:25 < lndbot> if the other end never closed the channels: yes. If the other end broadcasted previous states (that he couldn't contest): yes. If the other end force closed channels without cheating: I don't think so... Maybe. 13:27 < zapp-the-noob> lightning bringing trustless superfast payments to th masses 13:27 < cluelessperson> zapp-the-noob: These people work really hard. :) 13:34 < cluelessperson> Can "externalip" be a domain name? 13:35 < bjh4> cluelessperson: help file says "ip" specifically, but you never know til you try :) 13:36 < cluelessperson> trying! 13:37 < cluelessperson> 035f5c97f84a86f2d6f7901d032a7ac19585f69d7e88216a32eaa1e9c62e970254@76.85.20.142:9735 13:37 < cluelessperson> hm, maybe it worked 13:37 < bjh4> what's the domain name? 13:39 < cluelessperson> clueless.fun or cluelessperson.com 13:40 < bjh4> well... I was able to hit you with telnet 13:40 < zapp-the-noob> lol clueless guy having fun with lnd 13:41 < zapp-the-noob> bjh4 try UDP 13:42 < cluelessperson> udp isn't open 13:44 < bjh4> zapp-the-noob: the telnet UDP function is broken in this client. 13:44 < cluelessperson> Btw 13:44 < cluelessperson> If anyone wishes to attack my node, go nuts 13:44 < bjh4> cluelessperson: what version of lnd are you running? 13:45 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 < zapp-the-noob> lol clueless ddosing u right away 13:45 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@lithosphere-201.dynamic2.rpi.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:46 < bjh4> well that was my next issue... everytime I run my lnd instance CPU goes through the ceiling 13:47 < bjh4> then it crashes 13:47 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Quit: richard87] 13:47 < cluelessperson> bjh4: latest 13:47 < cluelessperson> The heaviest services on my machine are 13:48 < cluelessperson> electrum, an adult website decentralized helper, bitcoind 13:48 < cluelessperson> lnd somestimes appears on the list, but seems fine 13:50 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lnd 13:50 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:903:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has joined #lnd 13:57 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:01 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 14:07 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:903:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:07 -!- zapp-the-noob [c4de80af@gateway/web/freenode/ip.196.222.128.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:08 < bjh4> Just cloned the repo and seem to be getting a compile error: # github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/htlcswitch 14:08 < bjh4> htlcswitch/circuit.go:21: syntax error: unexpected = in type declaration 14:17 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:25 < lndbot> not sure exactly what the issue is but make sure to run dep ensure before compiling just as a general rule 14:28 < Veggen> or, too old go? 14:29 < Veggen> should use go 1.10 14:29 < Veggen> that is probably go v1.8 14:29 < Veggen> what does "go version" say? 14:48 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:c06:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has joined #lnd 14:48 -!- dougsland [douglas@nat/redhat/x-apsuuyykmgujvhor] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:50 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:c06:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has quit [Client Quit] 14:51 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:c06:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has joined #lnd 15:11 -!- rls [~rls@74.120.222.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@2620:0:2820:c06:5ee0:c5ff:fe8c:502d] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:17 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has joined #lnd 15:26 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:32 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:33 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 15:46 -!- nixbox [~kodi@c-69-181-66-7.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 15:48 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 15:54 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 15:57 -!- moriarty [~ql1yi8a1@unaffiliated/moriarty] has left #lnd [] 15:59 -!- RusAlex_ [~Chel@89-212-19-164.static.t-2.net] has joined #lnd 16:00 -92AAC05YY:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 3 new commits to master: https://git.io/vxuBW 16:00 -92AAC05YY:#lnd- lnd/master af4afdb Olaoluwa Osuntokun: lnwallet: use btcutil.NewAmount for BTC -> SAT conversions... 16:00 -92AAC05YY:#lnd- lnd/master 4253b85 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: test: ensure tests convert from BTC to SAT properly... 16:00 -92AAC05YY:#lnd- lnd/master b49d29c Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #943 from Roasbeef/btc-rounding-fix... 16:00 -7GHAAGD71:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #943: lnwallet: use btcutil.NewAmount for BTC -> SAT conversions (master...btc-rounding-fix) https://git.io/vx0s5 16:02 -!- RusAlex [~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@176.59.15.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:05 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 16:10 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 16:14 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:15 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 16:15 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 16:16 <@roasbeef> cluelessperson: answer is no 16:18 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19 < cluelessperson> roasbeef: thanks for your attention. :) 16:19 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 16:19 < cluelessperson> roasbeef: your guys help today helped shape the response of a bch user here: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/877ivd/lightning_client_has_catastrophic_bug_causing/dwb62j0/ 16:44 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 16:55 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:55 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 17:41 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 17:51 -!- nizhanali [ddde8322@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.222.131.34] has joined #lnd 17:52 < nizhanali> #clightning 18:06 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 18:10 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:26 < cluelessperson> so, I'm going to kill my server for like, a week 18:27 < CubicEarths> cluelessperson: ? 18:27 < cluelessperson> I assume I just need to close channels? 18:28 < CubicEarths> If you are going to be offline for that long? It would be a good idea 18:32 <@roasbeef> cluelessperson: yeh there's a closeallchannels command 18:34 < cluelessperson> sweet 18:34 < CubicEarths> roasbeef: Wish I was gonna be there for your talk. Looking forward to the video 18:35 < cluelessperson> roasbeef: giving a talk somewhere? I'd like to watch. :) 18:35 -!- DJDN [48c500ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.197.0.236] has joined #lnd 18:35 < DJDN> howdy gentlemen. anyone who knows a thing or two about a thing or two awake? 18:35 < cluelessperson> Btw, setting your externalip=example.com does work 18:35 < cluelessperson> :) 18:36 < DJDN> I'm wondering why my REST request to open a new payment channel is giving me {"error":"amount pushed to remote peer for initial state must be below the local funding amount","code":2} 18:36 < DJDN> var client = GetLNClient(NodeFolder, NodeAddress); RestRequest request = new RestRequest("v1/channels", Method.POST); request.RequestFormat = DataFormat.Json; request.AddJsonBody(new { node_pubkey_string = (PubID) }); request.AddJsonBody(new { node_pubkey = ByteArrayToString(System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(PubID)) }); request.AddJsonBody(n 18:36 < DJDN> anyone got any ideas? 18:37 < DJDN> request.AddJsonBody(new { local_funding_amount = 50000.ToString("X2") }); request.AddJsonBody(new { push_sat = 25000.ToString("X2") }); 18:37 < lndbot> Are you sure you want to give “money away” to the other node ? 18:37 < DJDN> pretty much no matter what I try in whatever encoding always gives me that message 18:38 < DJDN> I was assuming that on channel close it would come back to sender 18:38 < lndbot> the push_sat ammount no 18:39 < lndbot> You are actually saying. let me open this channel with 50000 sats on my side and send 25000 to the other node. 18:39 < DJDN> is it accurate to represent it in hex form? or should it just be "Satoshi#" 18:41 < DJDN> so local_funding_amount should == push_sat? 18:41 -!- cluelessperson [~cluelessp@unaffiliated/cluelessperson] has quit [Quit: Laters] 18:42 < DJDN> or do I need to calculate fees in order to set the proper values? 18:43 < DJDN> with the CLI I only need to specify a local amount so I guess I'll see what it's doing 18:44 < lndbot> local_fund --> funds are yours push_sat -> funds are not yours when the channel closes. 18:46 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 18:57 < bjh4> thx Veggen. you nailed it. 19:01 < DJDN> but my issue is - no matter what I try, no matter what the values- it always gives that message 19:03 < DJDN> request.AddJsonBody(new { local_funding_amount = 50000 }); request.AddJsonBody(new { push_sat = 0 }); 19:03 < DJDN> {"error":"amount pushed to remote peer for initial state must be below the local funding amount","code":2} 19:03 < DJDN> I got max tracing but no real info 19:11 < bjh4> can a wallet.db file be used from .3 to .4, or do you need to open 2 instances and transfer the funds? 19:11 < bjh4> 2 instances of lnd* 19:19 < DJDN> let me ask a super uber nooby question... is the Node to LN Wallet 1:1? Or can we have a generic node that services multiple LN identities via the Macaroons? 19:24 <@mlz> bjh4, if you still have v.03 you need to close out all channels, withdraw your fund, then delete the whole .lnd database 19:33 -!- omp_ [~daniel@47.42.232.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:34 < bjh4> mlz: makes sense. Thank you. 19:38 < lndbot> Make a backup then delete lol 19:40 -!- omp_ [~daniel@47.42.232.204] has joined #lnd 19:41 -!- nizhanali [ddde8322@gateway/web/freenode/ip.221.222.131.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:05 -!- x5tevex [~x5tevex@2604:a880:cad:d0::1c:9001] has joined #lnd 20:09 -!- quitobro [quitobro@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/quitobro] has quit [Quit: quitobro] 20:15 -!- DJDN [48c500ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.197.0.236] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:20 -!- ultra1 is now known as ultra2 20:27 -!- camulos [~user@103.77.78.248] has joined #lnd 20:39 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 20:40 -!- x5tevex [~x5tevex@2604:a880:cad:d0::1c:9001] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- omp_ [~daniel@47.42.232.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:51 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 20:55 -!- x5tevex [~x5tevex@138.197.133.197] has joined #lnd 21:12 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:12 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has joined #lnd 21:16 -!- naribia [2fbd49aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.189.73.170] has joined #lnd 21:17 -!- Lairem [~User@unaffiliated/lairem] has joined #lnd 21:17 -!- x5tevex [~x5tevex@138.197.133.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:17 < Lairem> hello can anyone link to a guide to set up and lnd node with 0.16? 21:23 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plpkxloxqkcrszzr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:24 -!- wooten [a64e9ce7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.78.156.231] has joined #lnd 21:25 < naribia> Lairem: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 21:25 < wooten> Is this a proto version issue? Anyone familiar? 'Can't accept connection: Act One: invalid handshake version: 80, only 0 is valid' 21:38 < Lairem> ty 21:38 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: colatkinson] 22:00 -!- wooten [a64e9ce7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.78.156.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:01 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lnd 22:16 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:29 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:49 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50 -!- colatkinson [~colatkins@cpe-67-240-56-42.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 22:53 -!- richard87 [~richard87@237.92-221-98.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lnd 23:07 -!- naribia [2fbd49aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.189.73.170] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:14 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:25 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has joined #lnd 23:30 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@50.90.83.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:51 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lnd 23:54 -!- RusAlex_ [~Chel@89-212-19-164.static.t-2.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 23:55 -!- RusAlex [~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex] has joined #lnd 23:55 -!- camulos [~user@103.77.78.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]