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09:05 < waxwing> lnd seems to be running pretty stably here last several days
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09:06 < waxwing> only got a couple of channels and just done 3 or 4 payments, but good all the same.
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09:23 <@mlz> waxwing, you haven't had a failed payment?
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10:42 < waxwing> mlz, with acinq a few times (was mostly trying that), with lnd maybe, don't remember, only tried a few times as i say. more a comment about the software being stable than the network, if that makes any sense.
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10:44 <@mlz> waxwing, ah ok :D
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13:33 <@roasbeef> waxwing: also re that 10-15s gap with larger hops, most likely due to haveing to rediscover past failures lnd incurred in the past, with a "hot cache" things can go thru relatively quickly 
13:33 <@roasbeef> cold cache needs to re-build the prior set of known edges/vertexes to prune, just a result of the naive "mission control" implementation we currently have 
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13:34 <@roasbeef> for example, it can passively prob, persistently remember prior attempts, and assign decaying scores for edges/vertexes based on prior attempted paymetn flows 
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14:06 < waxwing> roasbeef, presumably 'passively prob' = 'passively probe'?
14:06 < waxwing> but thanks. at some point i may actually start reading lnd code again, in some timeline :)
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15:00 <@roasbeef> waxwing: yeh 
15:00 <@roasbeef> waxwing: basically the heuritics to avoid prior failures can really use improvement 
15:00 <@roasbeef> for example: if i try to route across an edge and I get a tempchanfailure for 5k satoshis, then i likely should skip that edge in the short term if i'm trying to send thru 15k satoshis
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18:32 <@mlz> we need moarrrrr stores on LN! 
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21:14 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] merehap opened pull request #1094: Add friendlier error message when EOFs occur in ConnectToPeer (master...server_errors) https://git.io/vpeXL
21:15 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] parakeety opened pull request #1095: docs: update Go version to 1.9 in Contribution Checklist (master...update-version-in-contribution-guide) https://git.io/vpeXY
21:20 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] parakeety opened pull request #1096: main: Stop setting GOMAXPROCS to NumCPU explicitly (master...remove-gomaxprocs) https://git.io/vpeXn
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