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And just something that is "way before LN was born" until "way after now" :) 06:17 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 06:18 < Veggen> lncli fwdinghistory iwthout arguments give last 24h 06:22 < django> very useful cmd! Seems I have been used to relay a few sat =) 06:22 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:31 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 06:33 < math_> Can someone recommend a good tutorial for getting lnd setup the first time? 06:36 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 06:41 -!- OS-11936 [~OS-11936-@unaffiliated/os-11936] has joined #lnd 06:42 < Veggen> math: https://brettmorrison.com/running-a-bitcoin-lightning-full-node-on-raspberry-pi 06:42 < Veggen> pretty hardcode, I thik I have an easier one somewhere... 06:42 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:42 < Veggen> need to replacer something ifrunning on other architecture than rpi. 06:43 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:44 < Veggen> I have more or less followed this setup: https://medium.com/@stadicus/perfect-low-cost-%EF%B8%8Flightning%EF%B8%8F-node-4c2f42a4ff7b 06:45 < Veggen> first one is better if you want to be able to compile yourself. 06:46 < Veggen> I did the second, but compiled myself instead of using precompiled binaries) 06:50 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 06:52 < molz> math_, here's the original install guide: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/INSTALL.md 06:52 < molz> that's for linux, mac, no windows but you can use the linux guide for windows pretty much 06:54 < math_> thanks you too, will check them out! 06:55 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:58 < molz> yea, go to the original of lnd install guide, i've found the 2nd or 3rd party guides are often confusing and newbies can't learn anything from them 07:04 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 07:09 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:10 -!- 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bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 12:32 <@roasbeef> molz: back up now, forgot to restart when modifying it a bit 12:32 <@roasbeef> justin: ayyyyee 12:32 <@roasbeef> justin: what's the week looking like? 12:33 < lndbot2> low, just upped fees a bit recently: "week_fee_sum": "5359", 12:35 < molz> thanks, roasbeef 12:38 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:39 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:40 < Veggen> what feerate are people using? 12:40 < Veggen> ...when upping them? 12:41 < Veggen> I belie base_fee is reasonable too, but feerate might be higher. 12:44 <@roasbeef> peeps i've seen have been raising th fee rate 12:45 <@roasbeef> the default is 0.0001% 12:46 < Veggen> yah. or a millionth. 12:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vhBhH 12:56 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 4af9da4 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: htlcswitch: fix alignment in packetQueue for ARM... 12:56 -!- math_ [~mario@p54923E7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:03 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 13:24 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC463CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lnd 13:24 -!- tiagotrs [~user@p5DC463CB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 13:24 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 13:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 13:59 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:06 < molz> PatBoy, your tx got mined finally: https://www.smartbit.com.au/tx/53555015d834de15d236c0e488da201885172eac2fd15042f7877643d1ad3a5c 14:07 < PatBoy> ooo damn 14:07 < PatBoy> big thx to your friend m8 ! 14:07 < molz> yea i'll tell him :D 14:08 < molz> roasbeef, look at that tx, feesize: 0.35 sat/B, something is wrong with lnd? 14:09 < PatBoy> and thx tu you too :) 14:09 < PatBoy> to* 14:10 < molz> you're welcome! :D 14:15 -!- nodweber 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I've seen it happen after. 15:14 < molz> then we need to look at the fix? 15:15 < Veggen> yah. 15:16 < Veggen> but there's an issue created with a suggestion to set the minimum fee to 253. 15:16 < Veggen> ...I've mostly seen it happen when LND proposes fees below that. 15:16 < Veggen> so was the case in the case I saw lately, too. 15:17 < Veggen> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/1317 15:17 < Veggen> this one. I think it was dismissed prematurely. 15:20 < Veggen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kgr8pwTdVB/ 15:22 < C-Otto> Veggen: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/1330 15:24 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 15:25 < Veggen> yup, I saw it. 15:27 -!- grafcaps_ [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 15:27 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:29 < molz> haha..."@Roasbeef Roasbeef changed the title from Set minimum fee to 253 sat/ksipa to Set minimum fee to 253 sat/kw 2 hours ago" :))))) 15:29 < molz> silly rusty :D 15:30 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 15:30 <@roasbeef> yeh pretty easy to crank it up 15:30 <@roasbeef> the thing is, some nodes set this dynamically 15:31 <@roasbeef> but we can just add this floor for now, so it plays nicer with the rest of the network 15:31 < Veggen> @roasbeef most of the cases I have seen have been with lower than 253 sat/lw. 15:31 < Veggen> eh, sat/kw 15:31 < Veggen> that was a typo, I wasn't trying to introduce a new unit :) 15:32 -!- grafcaps_ [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:32 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 15:34 <@roasbeef> Veggen: yeh what i mean though is that it's node to node even 15:34 <@roasbeef> atm we well ask the node we're connecvted to what their min fee rate is 15:35 <@roasbeef> but if another node has a diff min fee rate, well then you can't really reconcile that 15:35 < Veggen> well, no. if you don't agree, then you don't agree. 15:35 < Veggen> still, I think 253 is a reasonable lower bar, will help a lot. 15:36 <@roasbeef> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnwallet/fee_estimator.go#L296 15:38 <@roasbeef> hmm, that's actually also a slightly diff value 15:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 15:50 -!- 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