--- Day changed Wed Jul 04 2018 00:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 00:18 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 00:22 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:26 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:31 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:32 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 00:36 -!- drrty [~drrty@89.238.154.20] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:43 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 00:54 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 00:57 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc894f.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 00:57 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc894f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 00:57 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 01:17 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:23 -!- j9m [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:24 -!- j9m [~j9m@103.86.96.2] has joined #lnd 01:28 -!- j9m_ [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has joined #lnd 01:29 -!- j9m [~j9m@103.86.96.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:32 -!- JackH [~laptop@212.78.169.180] has joined #lnd 01:33 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 01:43 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc894f.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 01:44 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc894f.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 01:44 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 02:12 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:13 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] vapopov opened pull request #1501: lnwallet: fix loosing balance of unmined transaction for neutrino (master...zerobalance) https://git.io/fbxrN 02:24 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 02:26 -!- RusAlex [~Chel@unaffiliated/rusalex] has joined #lnd 02:33 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc8aa4.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 02:33 -!- tiagotrs [~user@x59cc8aa4.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Changing host] 02:33 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lnd 02:36 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-175-193-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 03:07 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:41 -!- lndtester11 [~Beast@59.6.64.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 03:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:27 < RusAlex> Having error during start lnd daemon 04:27 < RusAlex> 2018-07-04 13:27:31.306 [INF] LTND: Initializing bitcoind backed fee estimator 04:27 < RusAlex> unable to create chain control: status code: 403, response: "" 04:27 < RusAlex> 2018-07-04 13:27:31.307 [INF] LTND: Shutdown complete 04:28 < RusAlex> it was working. then I turned off computer for a week =) and cannot start properly now 04:30 < RusAlex> lnd --alias=RusAlex --bitcoin.active --rpclisten=localhost:10001 --listen=localhost:10002 --restlisten=localhost:8001 --bitcoin.mainnet --bitcoin.node=bitcoind --bitcoind.zmqpath=tcp://127.0.0.1:28332 --noencryptwallet --no-macaroons 04:36 < RusAlex> bitcoind also seems running well with no changes in config. lncli version 'lncli version 0.4.2 commit=a0b2fadea35fa4642daf4e9f56e6ecfe31d22ce1 05:33 < Veggen> 403 is an error from bitcoind. wrong RPC credentials? 05:56 -!- lndtester11 [~Beast@59.6.64.209] has joined #lnd 05:56 < lndtester11> how do most of you interface with your lnd node? just using lncli? 06:09 -!- j9m_ [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:14 < RusAlex> is it possible to know what lnd version bitrefill runs ? Lightning wallet developer refers to this issue: https://github.com/btcontract/lnwallet/issues/6#issuecomment-400184449 06:16 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lnd 06:25 < Veggen> lndtester11: Using it as a personal wallet, I use lncli. 06:25 < Veggen> but I also have it as a backend from a woocommerce shop I am toying with. 06:26 < Veggen> then it's REST. 06:34 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 06:35 < lndtester11> is there any way to see how much you are earning in fees? 06:36 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:36 < lndtester11> the whole setting fees for channels thing seems complicated 06:36 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #lnd 06:36 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@S01061cabc0b054b3.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Changing host] 06:36 -!- murrayn [~dafuq@unaffiliated/murrayn] has joined #lnd 06:38 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:03 < Veggen> lncli feereport sows a summary for upto a month back. 07:16 < lndtester11> its not very detailed though 07:17 < lndtester11> wonder what strategies people will adopt to maximise fee gain 07:18 < lndtester11> also curious how people are solving channel balancing now if you want to just set up a node for passive income 07:28 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 07:33 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 07:34 -!- booyah_ [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:42 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43 < Veggen> lndtester11: I think you'd have to use a service like { "address": "3PDNMmw3ryZcwTPMK8fNKNqAK8g71RJrbH" 07:43 < Veggen> uah. 07:43 < Veggen> wrong paste buffer :) 07:43 < Veggen> https://lightningconductor.net/ 07:43 < Veggen> was the one I was after. 07:44 < Veggen> i.e. get the coins out of the channel again. 07:44 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 07:50 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:51 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 07:54 < molz> lndtester11, there's no passive income with ln right now, if that's all the reason you want to get into ln 07:54 < cjd[m]> no = preciously little or no = zero ? 07:55 < molz> sub zero 07:55 < cjd[m]> fee stuff is not yet implemented 07:55 < cjd[m]> ? 07:56 < molz> it is implemented but if fees are higher than onchain fees, what's the point for lightning? 07:58 -!- lndtester11 [~Beast@59.6.64.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:58 < cjd[m]> ok so fees exist but are preciously small 08:27 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 <@roasbeef> RusAlex: would mean that auth is off, as in wrong password, etc 08:27 <@roasbeef> lndtester11: look at feereport and fwdinghistory, the 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I wonder if it would be worth setting up a matchmaking service for reciprocal channel opening until we get channel factories. 17:47 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxrogkburwyhlotw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:47 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 17:56 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:56 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:57 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 18:00 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:00 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 18:11 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:12 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 18:15 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:27 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lnd 18:31 -!- lndtester11 [~Beast@59.6.64.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:35 -!- lndtester11 [~Beast@59.6.64.209] has joined #lnd 18:38 < qubenix> when opening channels, what benefit is there to push some balance to the remote side? 18:41 < molz> it helps to route payments 18:42 < qubenix> thx :) 18:43 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 18:46 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 18:48 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 19:04 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:08 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:08 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 19:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12 -!- usil [~foo@odisej.fmf.uni-lj.si] has joined #lnd 19:17 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:18 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 19:20 -!- cryptodechange [~cryptodec@host86-184-159-196.range86-184.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:25 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:28 -!- cryptodechange [~cryptodec@host86-172-250-18.range86-172.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 19:29 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:40 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:40 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 19:45 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 19:50 < qubenix> do i need to close all channels before restarting the daemon? if so, that means config changes require all channels to close and to restart daemon to take effect? 19:50 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:57 < molz> no you don't need to close all channels 19:58 < qubenix> thx again 19:59 < molz> np 19:59 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:00 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 20:04 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:06 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:07 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 20:10 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:25 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:25 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 20:27 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:30 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:31 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:33 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 20:42 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:47 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has joined #lnd 20:47 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 20:52 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 21:13 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:20 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 21:42 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 21:47 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:10 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 22:21 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:22 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lnd 22:34 < lndtester11> for testnet port forwarding for router, is it still 9735? 22:35 <@roasbeef> yep ports are always the same 22:35 < lndtester11> ok thank you 22:36 < lndtester11> and i take it my node will only show up on explorers if i set externalip and port forward correctly 23:13 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] SuriyaaKudoIsc opened pull request #1502: Use HTTPS instead of HTTP in README.md (master...patch-1) https://git.io/fbpil 23:33 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 23:36 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 23:41 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:48 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@109.160.62.107] has joined #lnd 23:54 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@109.160.62.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:54 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@109.160.62.107] has joined #lnd