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https://znc.in] 09:09 -!- maurris [~maurris@unaffiliated/maurris] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:13 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lnd 09:33 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lnd 09:50 -!- j9m [~j9m@47.157.125.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:09 -!- COSMODROME [4b50b4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.80.180.252] has joined #lnd 10:11 < COSMODROME> thanks 11:04 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 11:13 -!- ben__ [0c827484@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.132] has joined #lnd 11:23 -!- ben__ [0c827484@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.130.116.132] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:25 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 11:25 -!- benjamintatum [~benjamint@12.130.116.132] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- benjamintatum [~benjamint@12.130.116.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:05 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-181-127-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:16 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-139-044-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 12:48 -!- jrick [~jrick@unaffiliated/jrick] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:03 -!- pcre_ [~quassel@anon-40-112.vpn.ipredator.se] has joined #lnd 13:14 -!- jrick [~jrick@unaffiliated/jrick] has joined #lnd 13:14 < pcre_> What is --fee-base good for? And how to set it smaller 1? like --fee-base 0.5? 13:39 < COSMODROME> please advise 13:39 < COSMODROME> i did git pull make clean make make install 13:39 < COSMODROME> when i start node 13:41 < COSMODROME> LTND: Waiting for wallet encryption password. Use `lncli create` to create a wallet, `lncli unlock` to unlock an existing wallet, or `lncli changepassword` to change the password of an existing wallet and unlock it. unlock 13:43 < COSMODROME> bitcoind running on the same node, 13:44 < jpe_> umm do what it says, run `lncli create` 13:47 < COSMODROME> it will create i need old one 13:49 < COSMODROME> aaaaa please advice how to get back old one 13:50 -!- jpe_ [~jpe@200116b84285530079eef810c99a8f5e.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:51 < COSMODROME> lncli create Input wallet password: Confirm wallet password: Do you have an existing cipher seed mnemonic you want to use? (Enter y/n): n Your cipher seed can optionally be encrypted. Input your passphrase if you wish to encrypt it (or press enter to proceed without a cipher seed passphrase): Generating fresh cipher seed... [lncli] unable to generate seed: rpc error: code = Unknown desc = wallet already exists 13:52 < qubenix> and if you do: lncli unlock? 13:53 < COSMODROME> lncli unlock Input wallet password: 13:53 < COSMODROME> i never setup one 13:54 < qubenix> if you never set one up then how have you been asking all these questions over the past days? 13:59 < molz> guys.. please don't drink and lnd .. 14:00 -!- pcre_ [~quassel@anon-40-112.vpn.ipredator.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:00 -!- pcre [~quassel@anon-34-234.vpn.ipredator.se] has joined #lnd 14:00 < COSMODROME> :(( 14:00 < COSMODROME> what can i do if anything 14:01 < molz> did you save your password somewhere/ 14:01 < COSMODROME> never asked me to setup a password 14:02 < COSMODROME> i installed bitcoind and lnd was not asking for passwprds 14:02 < COSMODROME> all i just did i git pull make clean make make install 14:03 < COSMODROME> got new code as there where 12 updated files 14:03 < molz> did you create your lnd node with --noencryptwallet? 14:03 < COSMODROME> after update it asking me for password 14:05 < COSMODROME> GOD for some reason i missed this param --noencryptwallet 14:06 < COSMODROME> now it's running 14:07 < COSMODROME> should i lncli changepassword 14:08 < COSMODROME> just did lncli changepassword Input current wallet password: Input new wallet password: Confirm new wallet password: [lncli] Wallet is encrypted. Please unlock using 'lncli unlock', or set password using 'lncli create' if this is the first time starting lnd. 14:09 < COSMODROME> lncli unlock Input wallet password: [lncli] Wallet is already unlocked 14:09 < COSMODROME> shitting ma panth 14:12 < COSMODROME> how do i get my seed private key? 14:13 < COSMODROME> from bitcoind 14:16 < molz> im confused, did you get your lnd to start? 14:24 < COSMODROME> yes by adding --noencryptwallet in the lnd param 14:25 < COSMODROME> then i changepassword 14:25 < COSMODROME> and set one up 14:25 < COSMODROME> now i have a question 14:26 < COSMODROME> bitcoin-cli listaccounts { } returns nothing 14:27 < COSMODROME> i want to get a private key 14:27 < COSMODROME> how can i dump it 14:27 < molz> your lnd has its own wallet 14:27 < molz> lnd does not use bitcoin's wallet.dat 14:27 < COSMODROME> does it have private key? 14:28 < molz> it does but afaik there's not a way to get it 14:28 < COSMODROME> ok 14:29 < COSMODROME> so there is a function to unlock wallet 14:29 < COSMODROME> but there is no function to lock it back up? 14:29 < molz> currently if you set up lnd with the seed words, if something happens you can restore the lnd wallet but not the channels 14:29 < molz> lock what backup? 14:30 < molz> if only you know the passphrase to your lnd node, then it's locked up to outsiders 14:30 < COSMODROME> because it's not using bitcoind wallet.dat i asume it's using bitcoind for blocks only ? 14:30 < molz> yes 14:31 < COSMODROME> forget backup. im saying if you can unlock internal LND wallet should be a function to lock it? 14:31 < molz> no there's not 14:32 < COSMODROME> autolock )) 14:32 < COSMODROME> good )) 14:32 < COSMODROME> molz thanks for that --noencryptwallet 14:32 < molz> oh.. that's what you used to create your lnd? 14:32 < COSMODROME> i had it and somehow it was gone, i'm almost shit ma panth 14:33 < molz> does your lnd node have any coin and channel right now? 14:33 < COSMODROME> yes 14:33 < molz> does it show everything ok? 14:33 < COSMODROME> let me check 14:33 < molz> lncli getinfo 14:33 < molz> lncli listchannels 14:33 < molz> lncli walletbalance 14:36 < COSMODROME> === GETINGFO === "identity_pubkey": "xxxx", "alias": "xxx", "num_pending_channels": 0, "num_active_channels": 43, "num_peers": 48, "block_height": 534143, "block_hash": "0000000000000000000278e030723525e64c454a1471787b725dce5c4b1029ca", "synced_to_chain": true, "testnet": false, "chains": [ "bitcoin" ], "uris": [ "xxx@xxx:xxxx" ], "best_header_timestamp": "153281 14:36 < COSMODROME> ==== Walletbalance ==== lncli walletbalance { "total_balance": "45137632", "confirmed_balance": "45137632", "unconfirmed_balance": "0" } 14:38 < COSMODROME> listchannels gives long list of 43 channels 14:41 < COSMODROME> looks ok now 14:41 < pcre> Does this channel also cover c-lightning 14:41 < COSMODROME> so what i did today i install password on my LND internal wallet, correct? 14:42 < pcre> You can also try https://medium.com/coinmonks/bitcoin-setup-your-own-lightning-node-on-mainnet-94337bda09fa to setup a lightning node. 14:43 -!- User__ [~User@1.200.198.248] has joined #lnd 14:43 -!- ken2812221 [~User@1.200.198.248] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:45 < COSMODROME> yes i saw that pcre no article said set password after you secure your wallet with the password 14:45 < COSMODROME> Initial Setup of your Lightning Node 4. Get a lightning deposit address so that you send funds to it 14:45 < COSMODROME> next step fund channel 14:46 < COSMODROME> pcre type /join c-lightning 14:46 < COSMODROME> another channel 14:46 < pcre> thx 14:47 < COSMODROME> at least i can help someone as welll 14:47 < COSMODROME> MOLZ so what i did today i install password on my LND internal wallet, correct? 14:47 -!- ken2812221 [~User@180.217.140.78] has joined #lnd 14:47 -!- User__ [~User@1.200.198.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:47 < COSMODROME> thats the only password to secure LND wallet and protect it 14:49 < molz> COSMODROME, i'm not sure 14:50 < molz> sorry i'm still confused, you said you realized you didn't have any password so you restarted the lnd with --noencryptwallet, correct? 14:52 < COSMODROME> No i start like this: lnd --bitcoin.mainnet --debuglevel=debug --bitcoin.node=bitcoind --bitcoind.rpcuser=xxx --bitcoind.rpcpass=xxxxx$ --bitcoind.zmqpath=tcp://127.0.0.1:28332 --autopilot.active --no-macaroons --nochanupdates 14:52 < COSMODROME> last param was missing 14:52 < COSMODROME> it asked about the password 14:52 < COSMODROME> all thought password was not set 14:52 < molz> oh wow.. you're running lnd with --no-macaroons, that's bad 14:54 < COSMODROME> honestly no freaking idea what that is 14:55 < COSMODROME> this is my last good knowlege of macorones https://www.modcloth.com/dw/image/v2/ABAT_PRD/on/demandware.static/-/Sites-modcloth-master/default/dw6dbe8726/images/10100349_sweet_self-love_macaron_soap_set_multi_MAIN.jpg?sw=913 14:57 < COSMODROME> found article, reading... What are macaroons? You can think of a macaroon as a cookie, in a way 14:57 < COSMODROME> a lot of sweets 15:01 < molz> COSMODROME, https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/docs/macaroons.md 15:01 < molz> without macaroons your coins can be stolen 15:04 < molz> also you're running lnd without a password 15:04 < molz> this is like you're running a testnet lnd, but you're doing it for mainnet.. totally #reckless :P 15:09 < COSMODROME> can you please advise me how to setup password for LND 15:11 < COSMODROME> tell you this 15:11 < COSMODROME> when i remove --nochanupdates it's no longer asking for password 15:13 < COSMODROME> even if there is no processes running 15:13 < molz> hm there's some new stuff with the latest master but im not sure if or how you can create a password and seed words now 15:14 < molz> also you need to run lnd with macaroons, not sure how that works for you now 15:14 < COSMODROME> what was the old way 15:15 < molz> i think the old way was shutting down all channels, withdraw coins, and start with a new lnd node, but the new way i don't know, you have to wait for roasbeef or conner to help you out 15:25 -!- drrty [drrty@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/drrty] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:25 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:30 < COSMODROME> i think i was reading something about it 15:31 < COSMODROME> ad i belived i follow that instruction all though not sure if i finish it 15:33 < COSMODROME> would be nice to find that article again as more understanding today about lnd then before 15:38 -!- SpoekplumpeN [51eca0f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.236.160.240] has joined #lnd 15:43 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:49 < COSMODROME> i was inspired by this artice https://www.marc.cn/2018/06/the-lightning-network-a-huge-opportunity-to-learn-and-earn-money.html 15:49 < COSMODROME> anyway, how and when lightening will be mainstream? 15:49 < COSMODROME> what is needed to happen for it to be a mainstream? 15:59 < molz> COSMODROME, that article is a lie 16:00 < COSMODROME> well after talking to you guys it's clear 16:00 < COSMODROME> but at least i love the concept and learned something new. 16:01 < COSMODROME> will deploy macaroons and enable security 16:02 < COSMODROME> molz are you familiar with http://cosmos.network ? 16:02 < molz> sorry no 16:03 < COSMODROME> very very interesting 16:03 < COSMODROME> this is not a blockchain 16:04 < COSMODROME> Validators are responsible for committing new blocks and ensuring that consensus is reached. getting paid ... i thought lighting was similar 16:11 -!- pcre [~quassel@anon-34-234.vpn.ipredator.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12 < molz> sounds like an altcoin? 16:13 < molz> bitcoin Lightning is not an altcoin or an ICO 16:14 < molz> Lightning Network is a protocol that aims to solve micro transactions so users can pay for small transactions faster with lower fees 16:21 < COSMODROME> 2 coins ATOK stake and photon transactional 16:21 < COSMODROME> ATOM* 16:22 < COSMODROME> molz understood about lighting, objective is securely operate node and possibly make some money with it 16:23 < COSMODROME> it's like virtual mining in some way 16:24 < COSMODROME> all though 2,939 nodes and only 1/3 responds properly 16:33 -!- peevsie1 [~peevsie@2604:2000:f18f:e300::1] has joined #lnd 17:04 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 17:08 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:22 < COSMODROME> autopoot made 45 channels and 16 hours doing nothing 17:22 < COSMODROME> autopilot 17:22 < COSMODROME> lncli walletbalance { "total_balance": "45137632", "confirmed_balance": "45137632", "unconfirmed_balance": "0" } 17:23 -!- peevsie1 [~peevsie@2604:2000:f18f:e300::1] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.2] 17:23 < COSMODROME> there is 5-6 force closed channels 17:31 -!- peevsie [~peevsie@cpe-68-175-120-54.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 17:44 < molz> COSMODROME, why do you want so many channels? 18:07 < COSMODROME> why not 18:08 < COSMODROME> wanna see how server operates under the load 18:09 < COSMODROME> not sure why autopilot is so slow. or is there a hardcoded limit in the code 18:13 < COSMODROME> wanna see if everyone have same opportunity to grow or only few have privilege of lots of channels. then its getting more and more centralized. 18:14 < COSMODROME> i don't know why, just to see my node shine on the map and have my colors there, 18:14 < COSMODROME> whatever reason behind this i dunno 18:17 < COSMODROME> WOW finally for the first time someone routed thru me 18:17 < COSMODROME> amazing 18:17 < COSMODROME> lncli fwdinghistory { "forwarding_events": [ { "timestamp": "1532824662", "chan_id_in": "xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx", "chan_id_out": "yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy", "amt_in": "5766", "amt_out": "5766", "fee": "0" } ], "last_offset_index": 1 } 18:18 < COSMODROME> this is with 0 fee 18:18 < COSMODROME> infrastructure is there and no traffic no transactions and no business. 18:19 < COSMODROME> any large corps in talk with lighting ? Say Amazon? 18:20 < COSMODROME> I mean just amazon and goople app store can start a new age of this payments 18:20 < molz> more nodes is not better for you or the network 18:21 < molz> the numbers of big nodes with too many channels make Lightning Network look very fake with artificial growth, not organic growth at all 18:23 < COSMODROME> how many nodes at bitcoin? 18:24 < COSMODROME> 9582 18:24 < COSMODROME> 1000 LND can handle entire bitcoin tx 18:27 < bob333> the bitcoin node count isn't really relevant here 18:28 < bob333> my bitcoin nodes aren't helping the network much - they're validating transactions for my own benefit, so I can know whether a tx is real or not 18:29 < COSMODROME> well open and close channel is public tx on chaine 18:29 < COSMODROME> chain* 18:31 < bob333> that's true, but also unrelated to the bitcoin node count 18:39 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 18:43 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:44 -!- COSMODROME [4b50b4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.80.180.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:25 -!- camonz [~camonz@153.red-79-150-125.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #lnd 19:50 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 19:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:21 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:41 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 21:48 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lnd 21:54 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:48 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lnd 23:52 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:53 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@050-090-083-229.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]