--- Day changed Mon Sep 17 2018 00:13 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:42 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 01:34 -!- JackH [~laptop@76.red-83-57-119.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #lnd 01:36 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lnd 01:37 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 01:52 -!- umaxx25 [~umaxx@143.248.219.92] has joined #lnd 01:54 -!- umaxx25 [~umaxx@143.248.219.92] has quit [K-Lined] 02:05 -!- tomku3 [~tomku@103.91.245.197] has joined #lnd 02:06 -!- tomku3 [~tomku@103.91.245.197] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:10 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 02:48 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:48 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:49 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lnd 02:50 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 02:50 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 02:52 < queip> what happens if someone tries to pay same invoice second time? 02:52 < queip> one that was already paid a moment ago 03:09 < queip> LND doesn't support ipv6? roasbeef 03:09 < queip> on rpc 03:10 < Veggen> should do? 03:10 < Veggen> hmm, yes. I have used ipv6 with rpc and rest. 03:29 < Veggen> queip: LND will (again) stop you from doing it. Has been possible to pay twice. 03:34 -!- weechat4 [~weechat@118-86-185-36.kakt.j-cnet.jp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 03:34 < queip> Veggen: if Alice wants to pay into lnfoobar..., and pays there from her wallet X, and later pays from wallet Y, (e.g. lnd and eclair), and finall recipient Bob would like to "steal" her money, then can he? 03:35 < queip> normally it seems that Bob will reply that he doesn't know the lnfoobar, on 2nd time. but is that his good will 03:41 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] halseth opened pull request #98: Proof-of-concept: Catch up filter headers and block headers in parallel (master...parallel-header-catchup) https://git.io/fAMEI 03:46 -!- ken2812221__ [~ken281222@180.217.128.66] has joined #lnd 03:50 -!- ken2812221 [~ken281222@180.217.128.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:58 < Veggen> queueip: he can. There is nothing that stops an invoice to be paid twice, but wallets might or may not prevent it...both recipients and payers. 04:02 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:21 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 04:36 < molz> Veggen, with v0.5 i've noticed an invoice cannot be paid twice by a same node but it can be paid once by many nodes 04:51 -!- ken2812221__ [~ken281222@180.217.128.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:52 -!- ken2812221 [~ken281222@180.217.128.66] has joined #lnd 04:54 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has joined #lnd 05:12 -!- argonn13 [~argonn@190-78-31-245.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has joined #lnd 05:12 -!- argonn13 [~argonn@190-78-31-245.dyn.dsl.cantv.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:31 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 05:32 < Veggen> molz: yup. The nothing in LN that prevents invoice reuse. 05:32 < Veggen> I think c-lightning doesn't allow it on the receiver end? 05:33 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:35 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:51 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-xcefzeayybhyqpkw] has joined #lnd 05:51 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #1926: Move daemon from main to lnd package (master...lnd-package) https://git.io/fAMKk 05:51 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-xcefzeayybhyqpkw] has left #lnd [] 05:51 < molz> i haven't tested the latest version yet, let me look 06:04 < molz> holy-lnd-app-macaroonies!! my app could pay an invoice from one of my c-lightning nodes!!!! 06:04 < molz> and it has no direct channel to it 06:05 < molz> Veggen, ok just tested, the app could pay this CL invoice but the commandline lnd node could not, so i guess CL invoices can only be paid one time by one node only 06:06 < molz> from the commandline lnd node: "payment_error": "UnknownPaymentHash", 06:16 < Veggen> yes, I think CL node is "nice" and tells the payer that it's paid before :) 06:16 < Veggen> and yes, UI have accidentally paid twice a couple of times. 06:16 < Veggen> I, not UI. 06:17 < molz> Veggen, paid twice on which invoice? 06:24 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 06:49 < Veggen> think it was from LND to LND. 06:49 < Veggen> ...but, fixed now in 0.5. 06:49 < Veggen> 0.5 won't allow it. 06:49 < Veggen> (it checks it client side, too) 07:02 -!- charh [~charh@2402:800:6144:4408:402e:61dc:98f5:3184] has joined #lnd 07:09 -!- charh [~charh@2402:800:6144:4408:402e:61dc:98f5:3184] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:09 < molz> Veggen, not quite 07:10 < Veggen> well. It can't know that a different node has paid it? 07:10 < Veggen> you can't pay twice from same LND node, anymore? 07:10 < molz> Veggen, it can't 07:10 -!- tristero [~tristero@203.134.195.205] has joined #lnd 07:11 < molz> i got an lnd node and a CL node to pay a same invoice 07:11 < molz> (lnd invoice) 07:11 < Veggen> I don't think LND enforces it as the destination. It will happily allow people to pay twice. 07:11 < molz> but at least now an lnd invoice can't be paid multiple times from a same node 07:14 -!- lex [~lex@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 07:14 -!- lex is now known as Guest8597 07:16 -!- Guest8597 [~lex@136.59.207.41] has quit [Client Quit] 07:17 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:17 -!- l3xx [~l3xx@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 07:18 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 07:19 -!- l3xx [~l3xx@136.59.207.41] has quit [Client Quit] 07:19 -!- l3xx [~l3xx@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 07:19 -!- tristero [~tristero@203.134.195.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:24 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@107.147.180.171] has joined #lnd 07:26 -!- l3xx [~l3xx@136.59.207.41] has quit [] 07:26 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 07:30 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@107.147.180.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:33 -!- pierce[m] [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ihifasaqwutbxkhk] has left #lnd ["User left"] 07:36 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@107.147.180.171] has joined #lnd 07:51 -!- azend|vps_ [~azend|vps@110.51.132.103] has joined #lnd 07:53 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@107.147.180.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:55 -!- azend|vps_ [~azend|vps@110.51.132.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lnd 08:12 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 08:30 -!- tweaks [~tweeeaks@unaffiliated/tweeeaks] has joined #lnd 08:40 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 08:43 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-72-54-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:46 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 08:51 -!- Deadhand [~deadhand@kntaon1614w-lp140-05-64-231-106-135.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #lnd 09:02 -!- JW [61646556@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.100.101.86] has joined #lnd 09:02 < JW> how do you change your routing fee from the default (1 sat)? 09:15 -!- Giszmo [~leo@pc-72-54-46-190.cm.vtr.net] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:16 -!- JW [61646556@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.100.101.86] has quit [] 09:18 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 09:20 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:34 -!- helo7 [~helo@183.157.171.42] has joined #lnd 09:36 -!- Duckbuster7 [~Duckbuste@139.192.82.103] has joined #lnd 09:39 -!- Duckbuster7 [~Duckbuste@139.192.82.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42 -!- helo7 [~helo@183.157.171.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:05 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 10:06 < Talkless> What should be force close timeout by default? My lnd is rescanning addresses, and its ~24hours for ~300k height. 10:07 < Veggen> JW: lncli updatechanpolicy 10:07 < Veggen> it's 1 sat plus 1 millionth of the amount, btw. 10:07 < Veggen> I've for example changed it to 0.5 sat plus 1/100k of the amount. 10:16 -!- Deadhand [~deadhand@kntaon1614w-lp140-05-64-231-106-135.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:20 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-teriovphzvkpcuog] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:37 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:54 -!- JackH [~laptop@76.red-83-57-119.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:55 -!- JackH [~laptop@76.red-83-57-119.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has joined #lnd 11:02 -!- JackH [~laptop@76.red-83-57-119.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:05 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-rfdjwgcebvxmbwcw] has joined #lnd 11:05 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fADs1 11:05 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 10b9761 Oliver Gugger: rpcserver: handle unconfirmed TX properly when listing all transactions 11:05 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 9a3e19b Johan T. Halseth: Merge pull request #1916 from guggero/crash-on-listchaintxns... 11:05 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-rfdjwgcebvxmbwcw] has left #lnd [] 11:09 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:31 -!- Deadlyelder [~textual@2001:7e8:cc90:1000:d414:59e:4cb0:a1bd] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- jkqxz16 [~jkqxz@95.107.240.17] has joined #lnd 11:49 -!- jkqxz16 [~jkqxz@95.107.240.17] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:51 -!- flabrus16 [~flabrus@156.219.254.230] has joined #lnd 11:52 -!- flabrus16 [~flabrus@156.219.254.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:59 -!- Deadlyelder [~textual@2001:7e8:cc90:1000:d414:59e:4cb0:a1bd] has quit [Quit: Deadlyelder] 12:02 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:15 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-109-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:16 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-156-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lnd 12:16 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 12:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lnd 12:22 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 12:32 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 12:36 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:42 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:45 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 12:49 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58 -!- thomasfedb20 [~thomasfed@69.57.246.241] has joined #lnd 13:05 -!- thomasfedb20 [~thomasfed@69.57.246.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:06 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 13:10 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:13 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 13:33 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:34 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 13:42 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:55 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has joined #lnd 13:56 -!- evilolive [~qxt@unaffiliated/onryo] has joined #lnd 13:57 < evilolive> is is possible to close all channels with a single cmd and set the fee for closing the channels? 14:00 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.114.234.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:11 < molz> evilolive, lncli help closeallchannels 14:38 < evilolive> molz, thx 15:11 < evilolive> So I just updated to v0.5-beta-rc2. For some reason when I try to start lnd I now get unknown option: bitcoind.zmqpath. I am using the same lnd.conf as before. 15:12 < evilolive> Something change? Using core bitcoind 15:12 < evilolive> My lnd.conf has this bitcoind.zmqpath=tcp://127.0.0.1:28332 15:19 < Veggen> something changed. 15:20 < Veggen> you need to change in bitcoin.conf. Put zmqpubrawblock and zmqpubrawtx on different port. 15:21 < evilolive> Veggen, Like 28333 ? 15:21 < Veggen> yup, that's fine. 15:21 < evilolive> k thx 15:21 < Veggen> then restart bitcoind. 15:21 < evilolive> will do 15:21 < Veggen> and in lnd.conf you will need to do similar changes. 15:22 < Veggen> bitcoind.zmqpubrawblock= 15:22 < Veggen> and bitcoind.zmqpubrawtx= 15:22 < Veggen> (instead of bitcoind.zmqpath) 15:23 < Veggen> put in correct line: bitcoind.zmqpubrawblock=tcp://127.0.0.1:28332 and bitcoind.zmqpubrawtx=tcp://127.0.0.1:28333 15:31 < Veggen> well, night. 15:32 -!- OmnipotentOwl0 [~Omnipoten@41.218.206.86] has joined #lnd 15:34 -!- OmnipotentOwl0 [~Omnipoten@41.218.206.86] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 15:36 < evilolive> Veggen, sry for not getting back to you right way. OK I changed the bitcoin.conf to reflect what you said. Then restarted. Then changed the lnd.conf to match 15:36 < evilolive> Veggen, unknown option: bitcoind.zmqpubrawblock 15:36 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:37 < evilolive> Veggen, you sure that is right? I can post my conf of both bitcoin.conf and lnd.conf ... if you can take a look 15:39 < evilolive> This has been working for months. Just conked out after the upgrade. 15:41 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-sybcgardfnzwribe] has joined #lnd 15:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fAD1z 15:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 974ec02 Conner Fromknecht: channeldb/migrations: improve performance of edge update migration... 15:41 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 032234c Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #1925 from cfromknecht/migration-efficiency... 15:41 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-sybcgardfnzwribe] has left #lnd [] 15:46 -!- fetzie_ [~fetzie_@host237-24-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lnd 15:46 -!- fetzie_ [~fetzie_@host237-24-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56 <@roasbeef> queip: we support ipv6 15:57 <@roasbeef> queip: we won't allow clients to pay again, but atm, we'll _accept_ that second payment 15:57 <@roasbeef> in the next major version, we should no longer accept the second payment 16:00 -!- crypto_dev [5339240d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.57.36.13] has joined #lnd 16:00 -!- crypto_dev [5339240d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.57.36.13] has quit [Client Quit] 16:09 <@roasbeef> Talkless: it may take some time to finish the rescan 16:15 <@roasbeef> but also the time lock will scale based on the size of the channel 16:19 <@roasbeef> evilolive: the args changed, check out the release notes 16:20 <@roasbeef> also generally check your config for stray items, the parsing is a bit more strict now 16:21 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has joined #lnd 16:24 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:26 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jykejdmcqlnsjmjs] has joined #lnd 16:33 < evilolive> roasbeef, ikd looks good to me. You see anything in this conf ? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/3i9O2R0oYmaWXYGyRMMrrQ 16:37 < lndbot> evilolive, you’re missing `bitcoin.` in front of the zmq options 16:40 < evilolive> lnd.conf:15: unknown option: bitcoin.zmqpubrawblock 16:41 < lndbot> evilolve: the prefix should be `bitcoind` i think? 16:41 < lndbot> evilolive* sorry 16:42 < lndbot> whoops, yeah should be bitcoind 16:47 < evilolive> looks like https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/WW0oeINxJGukbq8MzjglKg now but still getting lnd.conf:15: unknown option: bitcoind.zmqpubrawblock 16:48 < evilolive> using core 16.2 16:48 < evilolive> by the way thx! 16:49 < lndbot> evilolive, last thing is to add a [Bitcoind] section header before the zmq options 16:50 < evilolive> Ill give it a shot thx! 16:54 -!- drexl__ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has joined #lnd 16:54 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:58 < evilolive> thx got it working! Had to put a few more things under the new header but it works now! 17:09 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:11 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 17:13 -!- sc11tr19 [~sc11tr@171.228.214.43] has joined #lnd 17:15 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has joined #lnd 17:16 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:16 -!- drexl__ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:17 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@62.112.9.165] has quit [Client Quit] 17:17 -!- sc11tr19 [~sc11tr@171.228.214.43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:19 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 17:25 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:31 < molz> bitcoin just got two new tags: v0.16.3 and v0.17.0rc4 17:37 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 17:40 -!- user132421 [~user1324@171.229.255.147] has joined #lnd 17:41 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:44 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 17:47 -!- user132421 [~user1324@171.229.255.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:51 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 17:52 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:53 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lnd 17:56 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:58 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-yopnvhwgrfryhzxi] has joined #lnd 17:58 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Desuuuu opened pull request #1932: tor/controller: fix response parsing for values containing the '=' character (master...tor-controller-parse-fix) https://git.io/fAD71 17:58 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-yopnvhwgrfryhzxi] has left #lnd [] 17:59 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:06 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 18:07 -!- rhavar [uid237883@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ealcdeabjnnkcsyi] has joined #lnd 18:08 -!- grafcaps [~haroldbr@75.112.211.230] has joined #lnd 18:10 < iratemin> I'm just getting started here and trying to understand how lightning works in practice. I'm currently setting up my btc node and then will be adding lnd so maybe it'll make more sense later. Is it possible and how is it done, for a party to receive more money than they have? Say I'm a merchant or holding a yard sale. How can I just receive funds from others without having to open a channel, fund it with what I think I'd ever 18:10 < iratemin> need, and then spend that amount so its open to receive? 18:22 < molz> iratemin, think of it this way: if you're a merchant, what do you have to exchange for other people's money? 18:26 -!- stiell [~stian@fsf/member/stiell] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:41 < iratemin> im not following. If they get a physical product from my store shelves, I want their money but Id have to have spent more money than they are going to give me in order to have room right? So how can I realize a profit? 18:43 < molz> nobody said you have to have spent more money than they are going to give you 18:44 < molz> if you're a merchant and you want to be on LN, all you do is set up a stable node so people can connect to your node, have a stable website so they can mae orders from your website, and most importantly you do deliver what you sell 18:45 < iratemin> its completely possible I'm missing something. I'm new, I create a wallet in my phone app, open and fund a channel with 1 BTC. I can not receive any funds unless I spend some of that right? 18:46 < molz> oh so you're not a merchant, forget what i said then 18:46 -!- stiell [~stian@fsf/member/stiell] has joined #lnd 18:46 < iratemin> at this time, its hypothetical. trying to understand 18:47 < iratemin> so merchant and private are handled differently? Your saying from just running the lnd node, I can receive as many payments as I want with a 0 starting balance? 18:48 < molz> if someone opens a direct channel to you, you can ofc receive if you give him an invoice 18:52 < iratemin> ok, from what I was reading that wasnt clear. Thanks. 19:05 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 19:11 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.125] has joined #lnd 19:19 <@roasbeef> iratemin: you can't recv more than is in the channel 19:20 <@roasbeef> there's an incentive for others to open up chans to a newer service in order to corner the initila fees as well 19:25 -!- sneakerhax [~sneakers@unaffiliated/sneakerhead] has joined #lnd 19:26 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:32 <@roasbeef> oh but there are ways to free that up as well 20:07 < evilolive> Is it normal that I see this for 4 hours? [INF] CHDB: Migrating database to properly prune edge update index ? 20:08 < evilolive> Its all good if it is. No hurry but I am wondering if something got stuck. 20:09 < lndbot> evilolive, yes it’s possible that it can take a long time 20:09 < evilolive> ok no biggie 20:09 < evilolive> thx 20:09 < lndbot> if you’re interested in speeding it up, you can update to the latest master and try again 20:10 < evilolive> I pulled this like 4 hours ago. Is that new enough? 20:10 < lndbot> commit should be 032234c 20:11 < lndbot> it was 4 hours ago as well, so could be you were minutes off 20:13 < evilolive> lol missed it with like 3min xD 20:13 < evilolive> watch -n1 "grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |sort k4rn" .... yeah that is eating my cores. 20:14 -!- sneakerhax [~sneakers@unaffiliated/sneakerhead] has quit [Quit: Back later] 20:14 < evilolive> watch -n1 "grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo |sort -k4rn ... blah 20:18 < evilolive> On a side note it has been a while since I have heard about AMP. It sounded cool. Any development in that area to be expected? 20:19 < lndbot> soon :slightly_smiling_face: 20:19 < evilolive> smirk or smile =P 20:21 < evilolive> well w/e is is going to wipe that stupid grin off the faces of all the BCH shrills. Can't wait. 20:49 <@roasbeef> evilolive: it's also a bit faster on master 20:49 <@roasbeef> evilolive: yep we're starting to get some of the primitvies for amp in 20:50 <@roasbeef> should have an initial version of it in by 0.6, and prob in master of some sort till then 20:50 <@roasbeef> before we do full AMP, will prob also get sphinx send stuff in, so you can send w/o invoice s 20:50 <@roasbeef> as they used the same primitves to a degree 20:53 <@roasbeef> use* 20:55 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-uoyufmjbdvjapika] has joined #lnd 20:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fADxv 20:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 23c03cc Desuuuu: tor/controller: fix response parsing for values containing the '=' character 20:55 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 8a2b3bf Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #1932 from Desuuuu/tor-controller-parse-fix... 20:55 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-uoyufmjbdvjapika] has left #lnd [] 21:11 < lndbot> Excellent, exciting stuff! 21:11 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-zvqksnywehorgrmo] has joined #lnd 21:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 8 new commits to master: https://git.io/fADx0 21:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 2d255e3 Joost Jager: routing: use fixed time value in tests 21:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 5daf75b Joost Jager: routing: restructure test context creation 21:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master c5c580a Joost Jager: routing: add private key map to test graph instance 21:11 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-zvqksnywehorgrmo] has left #lnd [] 21:41 < Veggen> Did the dust tx stuff change? My strategic continue patch failed to apply... 21:41 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@195.133.220.177] has joined #lnd 21:43 -!- irate_min [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 21:45 < Veggen> yup, there's a c.Stop() in there... 21:46 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@195.133.220.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:50 < Veggen> now, I have two nodes. One fresh without quirks, one old with a multitude of old issues but (soon) nothing else in it than those old issues. 21:51 < Veggen> time to go experimental on those, I guess :) 22:11 <@roasbeef> dust stuff still there rn 22:12 <@roasbeef> there's an open PR wchi'll detct that the fees are too low or w/e, and then try to re-sign 22:12 <@roasbeef> if it's an issue with a commitment where you accidentally accepted a state that gave you a dust output, then we should have the 'abandonchannel' PR in sometime this week 22:12 <@roasbeef> which will let you just _delete_ that state and move on 22:22 < Veggen> roasbeef: 1704? Just merged in that in my borked-node-buid :) 22:23 < Veggen> I have some of those forever pending closes there. 22:23 < Veggen> decided to make a new clean node and then go a bit more experimental to clean up old issues in th old one. 22:27 < Veggen> 2018-09-18 07:19:05.251 [TRC] CNCT: ChannelArbitrator(00ed181d67cacc3ebc8a9e0f3775ded4aa21c60727528d5d12a420b31dfab4d8:0): attempting state step with trigger=chainTrigger from state=StateContractClosed 22:27 < Veggen> 2018-09-18 07:19:05.251 [ERR] CNCT: unable to fetch contract resolutions: no contract resolutions exist 22:27 < Veggen> think issue might be different. 22:43 -!- hapax [~yaje@unaffiliated/yaje] has joined #lnd 22:43 -!- hapax [~yaje@unaffiliated/yaje] has left #lnd [] 22:49 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 22:54 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:58 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 23:00 -!- irate_min [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:09 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:10 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 23:25 -!- jlvillal25 [~jlvillal@116.123.6.22] has joined #lnd 23:27 -!- jlvillal25 [~jlvillal@116.123.6.22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:45 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45 -!- glyph16 [~glyph@134.236.73.57] has joined #lnd 23:45 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 23:47 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has joined #lnd 23:48 -!- glyph16 [~glyph@134.236.73.57] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 -!- iratemin [~iratemin@66-191-1-121.dhcp.knwc.wa.charter.com] has joined #lnd 23:52 -!- [l3x] [~l3x]@136.59.207.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:55 -!- pierre_bear8 [~pierre_be@93.93.12.135] has joined #lnd 23:56 -!- pierre_bear8 [~pierre_be@93.93.12.135] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]