--- Day changed Wed Oct 10 2018 00:03 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-ttlmhqauvtksomig] has joined #lnd 00:03 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] karliatto opened pull request #2026: docs/DOCKER.md: adding missing = (master...doc-docker-typo) https://git.io/fxCv6 00:03 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-ttlmhqauvtksomig] has left #lnd [] 00:05 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 00:08 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzudclywrwvxjahb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:08 -!- trotski2000 [sid206086@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwdkgdsfuwizoile] has joined #lnd 00:11 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:44 -!- jpe [~jp@fnord.cryptophone.de] has joined #lnd 00:48 -github-onion:#lnd- [lightning-onion] borisd opened pull request #30: Update README.md (master...patch-1) https://git.io/fxCU0 00:49 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:51 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 01:05 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lnd 01:26 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 01:31 -!- JackH_ [~laptop@host86-182-8-23.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:35 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-wthblvsmzjrfidey] has joined #lnd 01:35 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] mrwhythat opened pull request #2027: Option to disable incoming push amounts on channel opening (master...no-incoming-push-amounts-option) https://git.io/fxCIp 01:35 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-wthblvsmzjrfidey] has left #lnd [] 01:52 -!- kalle [~kalle@2a00:801:e0:30:1cd1:a55b:1e49:a6dc] has joined #lnd 02:04 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-dvsjxtwvzqwspgwb] has joined #lnd 02:04 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth opened pull request #2028: [trivial] travis: correctly set RACE=TRUE in build matrix (master...travis-race-env) https://git.io/fxCqY 02:04 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-dvsjxtwvzqwspgwb] has left #lnd [] 02:19 -!- Empact [~textual@zz2014411797B6F89E83.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has joined #lnd 02:19 -!- kabaum [d4f7d3c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.247.211.200] has joined #lnd 02:23 < kabaum> Hi, how can I get the base58-encoded xpub of an account from a ScopedKeyManager? I see that I can call String() on ExtendedKey, but I can't find a way to get hold of the ExtendedKey from the ScopedKeyManager. 02:28 -!- Empact [~textual@zz2014411797B6F89E83.userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 02:47 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@198.211.112.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:04 -!- Sentineo_ [~Undefined@node.ispol.sk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:04 -!- Sentineo [~Undefined@unaffiliated/sentineo] has joined #lnd 03:06 < queip> roasbeef: for some reason my LND stopped working randomly 03:07 < queip> There is something happening. 03:07 < bobazY> queip: logs? 03:07 < queip> wallet (that Android wallet with stupid name) was showing it as SLEEPING/offline. afte restart it now is at SLEEPING/online. 03:08 < queip> it might be 2nd time this happens. Works for few days, then bam "SLEEPING" state. Though one time at least previously was reset and the waiting for unlock 03:13 -!- COSMODROME [4b50b4fc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.80.180.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:14 < queip> bobazY I don't see anything wrong in logs, but they are quite long. I can grep something... 03:21 < queip> molz any idea? this seems like a serious problem. Coupled with the very short (144) default close time 03:54 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-owmnhpeozyutsokg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:57 < molz> wallet (that Android wallet with stupid name) <== which wallet? 03:58 < queip> molz, "Bitcoin Lightning Wallet" 03:59 < molz> queip, and that wallet says your LND is offline when it is online? 04:05 < queip> molz: well the LND server had some issues 04:05 < queip> at that time android wallet showed that LND node as sleeping/offline 04:05 < queip> then after restarting lnd server 04:05 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 04:05 < queip> now androud wallet was shogin it as slpeeing/online, and few minutes later as open/online so all ok 04:05 < queip> but why was that restart needed 04:05 < queip> manually 04:06 < molz> queip, but that wallet isn't authoritative 04:06 < queip> molz: no such problem with other nodes 04:06 < molz> what other nodes? 04:07 < queip> molz: some other nodes it connects to, like bitrefill 04:07 < queip> ofc it might be still bug in the wallet, then a debug would help to report it to wallet developer 04:07 < queip> (in android wallet) 04:09 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:09 < molz> queip, bitrefill node is an LND node, so maybe something wrong with your setup? 04:11 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 04:15 < queip> I'm ready to debug with someone, anyone can suggest instructions? 04:19 -!- Elshan [596862b6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.104.98.182] has joined #lnd 04:20 < molz> queip are you on the latest master? 04:20 < molz> if you have more than one LND node, you can test them with each other, and not with the phone app 04:23 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-jahhtqqglakvouzr] has joined #lnd 04:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] halseth pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fxCEH 04:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 2c62f3e Johan T. Halseth: travis: correctly set RACE=TRUE in build matrix 04:23 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master b00e43e Johan T. Halseth: Merge pull request #2028 from halseth/travis-race-env... 04:23 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-jahhtqqglakvouzr] has left #lnd [] 04:23 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 04:26 < Elshan> hello , Are there people who can answer a few questions? 04:26 < queip> Elshan: yes, for example scientists, the jury, witnesses in court, information desk workers etc 04:27 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 04:27 -!- drexl__ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 04:27 < queip> also do not ask to ask, just ask your question, Elshan 04:31 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:31 -!- drexl_ [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:55 -!- ChunkyPuffs [~ChunkyPuf@gateway/tor-sasl/chunkypuffs] has quit 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`make` 08:07 -!- as1nc [~as1nc@ax213-1-82-66-157-194.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:08 < molz> try `make clean` 08:09 < qubenix> that did it, thanks molz 08:09 < molz> np :) 08:33 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@139.59.211.187] has quit [Quit: see ya] 08:33 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 09:03 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:08 -!- SopaXorzTaker [~SopaXorzT@unaffiliated/sopaxorztaker] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09 -!- spaced0ut_ [~spaced0ut@198.211.112.88] has joined #lnd 09:09 -!- spaced0ut_ [~spaced0ut@198.211.112.88] has quit [Changing host] 09:09 -!- spaced0ut_ [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 09:12 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:13 -!- g687 [~quassel@nz177l45.bb122100.ctm.net] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:14 -!- g687 [~quassel@nz177l45.bb122100.ctm.net] has joined #lnd 09:30 -!- spaced0ut_ is now known as spaced0ut 09:33 -!- JackH [~laptop@host86-182-8-23.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 09:46 -!- g687_ [~quassel@37.58.58.232] has joined #lnd 09:49 -!- g687 [~quassel@nz177l45.bb122100.ctm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:08 -!- g687_ [~quassel@37.58.58.232] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11 -!- g687 [~quassel@nz177l45.bb122100.ctm.net] has joined #lnd 10:22 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lnd 10:41 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:25 -!- ezzzy [~ezzzy@unaffiliated/ezzzy] has joined #lnd 11:46 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 11:53 < ezzzy> hello, what introductory resources would you recommend to someone interested in contributing to lnd development? 11:54 < molz> ezzzy, do you know how lnd works? 11:54 < ezzzy> molz: nope 11:54 < molz> i would start from there first 11:57 < ezzzy> so something like https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf ? 11:58 < molz> no 11:59 < ezzzy> why not? 12:00 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has joined #lnd 12:01 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:01 < molz> the link is in the topic https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd 12:02 < molz> the white paper is outdated we're using BOLTS 12:11 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:15 < ezzzy> thx, and regarding the lnd codebase, what's a good component to start with (eg. reading the code)? 12:41 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:48 -!- ezzzy [~ezzzy@unaffiliated/ezzzy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:06 -!- ezzzy [~ezzzy@unaffiliated/ezzzy] has joined #lnd 13:12 -!- ezzzy [~ezzzy@unaffiliated/ezzzy] has quit 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my total fees were almost 4000 combined. is it just me, or is that crazy? i only paid 154 on chain to open the channel this morning. 15:18 < booyah> qubenix: sounds like if overpaid 15:19 < booyah> normally I pay like 0.01 - 1 sometimes 2, 3 sat per LN tx btc mainnet 15:19 -!- Orion3k [~Orion3k@24-176-200-142.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined #lnd 15:20 < qubenix> i better start using --fee_limit i guess. 15:24 < lndbot> yes, I wouldn't send at all without a fee_limit 15:45 < molz> well low fees onchain can make your txs unconfirmed forever, because miners don't want to mine too low fees 15:52 < qubenix> i know how fees work, i don't mind waiting 12 hours for confs if i have to. i've been using 1 sat for almost every tx this year. 16:01 < molz> oh im sure you know how fees work and yes 1 sat/B can move your coin but im wondering if you know with lnd 1 sat can happen to be 0.99 sat and that's what im talking about 16:03 < lndbot> Also make more channels, the path finding will attempt to find the cheapest route possible 16:09 < qubenix> molz: i didn't know that there was a chance of that. happened to me once with joinmarket, but the tx eventually got replaced then. thanks for the heads up. alexbosworth: thanks for the tip. 16:11 < molz> i've been trying to helps some people with stuck txs because at 0.99 sat/B most miners don't see the txs, so i know a miner and ask him to mine those txs but today he even said the txs i gave him have too low fees 16:12 < lndbot> A transaction at 1 sat/B wouldn’t be stuck 16:12 < molz> Fee per kVB 0.00000992BTC 16:13 < wpaulino> molz: the fee rate issue should no longer be a problem going forwards 16:13 < wpaulino> it's just that we haven't yet provided a way to get the existing ones unstuck 16:14 < wpaulino> qubenix: the tools are there to not get rekt ;) 16:14 < wpaulino> can either specify the limit as an absolute value or percentage of the payment 16:14 < molz> wpaulino, i hope so 16:15 < wpaulino> should hopefully have a way to reconcile those with stuck txs by 0.5.2 16:17 < molz> i've been wondering how lnd calculates fees, if it's based on bitcoind estimated fees, it shouldn't have such low fees? 16:18 < lndbot> I set my own fee rates 16:24 < molz> yea me too, but when i open or close a channel on lnd, i dare not use 1 sat/B 16:25 < molz> because im afraid lnd would blink and see it as 0.99 sat/B 16:25 < molz> not worth the trouble 16:26 -!- Pioklo_ [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:26 < wpaulino> molz: it's safe to do so now 16:26 < lndbot> Yeah I used to do that before some of the fee fixes but now I want to test if it is going to screw up so I always use 1 16:33 < molz> oh i see, i'll test on testnet too 16:33 < wpaulino> well testnet is different since fees are just all over the place 16:36 < wpaulino> iirc the problem was due to bitcoind rounding up, so 1 sat/b ends up being 253 sat/kw, rather than the 250 sat/kw lnd had originally used 16:37 < 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stopped working" is very vague. can you explain what exactly wasn't working? 17:20 < wpaulino> you can also grep the lnd logs for the node pubkey of the mobile wallet to see what could be going on 17:31 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 17:49 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:37 -!- s7r_ [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has joined #lnd 18:37 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ethioqwfygurmjiw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38 -!- s7r [~s7r@openvpn/user/s7r] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:38 -!- s7r_ is now known as s7r 18:44 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-snurvzqpnukwlrke] has joined #lnd 18:57 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 19:13 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@58.32.38.137] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@58.32.38.137] has joined 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