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06:07 < dennist100> hi     
06:07 < dennist100> anyone here
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06:09 < dennist100> anyone here?
06:11 < bobazXY> :)     
06:15 < dennist100> I have 2 channels, but #1 channel always be used to pay invoice. How can I pay invoice using other channel?
06:16 < bobazXY> routing is automagic  right?
06:16 < dennist100> yes     
06:19 < dennist100> fail payment always happen
06:20 < dennist100> show in "pending_htlcs" and lock the funds
06:20 < bobazXY> hmm     
06:20 < bobazXY> the slack is more active
06:20 < bobazXY> do you know where to find that? :)
06:22 < dennist100> find what?
06:24 < bobazXY> slack
06:25 < bobazXY> https://join.slack.com/t/lightningcommunity/shared_invite/enQtMzQ0OTQyNjE5NjU1LWRiMGNmOTZiNzU0MTVmYzc1ZGFkZTUyNzUwOGJjMjYwNWRkNWQzZWE3MTkwZjdjZGE5ZGNiNGVkMzI2MDU4ZTE
06:25 < dennist100> ok thanks
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12:22 < rafalcpp> bcashers claim your developer proposes to add inflation to BTC.  https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9qq80g/lightning_developer_introduces_the_idea_of/
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12:58 < molz> rafalcpp, don't they have more rotten-to-the-core problems within their 'community'? and who cares what those idiots say? they never can understand LN, all they do is repeating their shitty fuds all day while their coin is going down to toilet
13:01 < molz> lnd is doing 
13:01 < molz> bcashers are fudding
13:01 < molz> damn if they understand lnd, damn if they don't
13:02 < molz> anyways, this week is nerds' week in NYC and people are excited discussing Lightning, don't let the stupid bcashers waste your time
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13:04 <@roasbeef> rafalcpp: which dev? ofc it's an out of context quote, the post outlines a future where people _may_ advocate for inflation if fees are insuffcient 
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14:52 < molz> "Thanks @fulmolightning for squeezing me in as a speaker at the NYC Hack Day going on this weekend https://lightninghackday.fulmo.org/#schedule 
14:52 < molz> Looks like tickets are still available for the event, plus buy your ticket using your LN wallet or submarine swap provider and get $45 off the ticket price." https://twitter.com/alexbosworth/status/1054813318643359745
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15:23 < fiatjaf> I have a bitcoin core node running in a remote machine and try to use it as the lnd backend
15:23 < fiatjaf> whenever lnd loses connection to that remote host it crashes
15:24 < fiatjaf> and it's not even clear if it has done any syncing that it can continue later or if it has to start from scratch
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15:39 <@roasbeef> fiatjaf: remote host? so the bitcoind is remote?
15:39 <@roasbeef> it     
15:39 <@roasbeef> it'll be slow to get it spun up, but also the connection for bitcoind by default is plaintext and unauthenticated, so could run into some weirdness with just that 
15:46 < fiatjaf> roasbeef, bitcoind is remote
15:47 < fiatjaf> I'm connecting through zerotier, so there's a layer of security there
15:48 < fiatjaf> also the place where bitcoind is running has poor internet, so I guess because of that the connection is broken sometimes, lnd then crashes
15:48 < fiatjaf> lnd says at startup: "waiting until backend is fully synced"
15:49 < fiatjaf> however bitcoind is fully synced (at least according to some online blockchain explorer api)
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15:58 < lndbot> <bvu> test
16:06 < lndbot> <moli> test
16:06 < molz> test
16:06 < lndbot> <moli> thanks, @bvu!  :)
16:07 < lndbot> <bvu> np! sorry it took so long :slightly_smiling_face:
16:10 < molz> 👍 no problem at all
16:12 <@roasbeef> fiatjaf: ahh that's lnd to sync the internal wallet to bitcoind 
16:12 <@roasbeef> we do this so it's able to handle re-orgs, and also switch between diff chain backends 
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17:07 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #1888: lnrpc+routing: fix unmarshallRoute and simplify route structure (master...routestruct) https://git.io/fAo00
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17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/fxXuA
17:17 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master ccc1dff Olaoluwa Osuntokun: routing: minor style clean ups
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17:27 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] wpaulino opened pull request #2088: chainntnfs/interface_test: lower mempool spend check timeout (master...lower-mempool-spend-check-timeout) https://git.io/fxXzi
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17:39 < fiatjaf> 2018-10-23 22:36:29.100 [INF] LNWL: Catching up block hashes to height 547081, this will take a while...
17:39 < fiatjaf> 2018-10-23 22:36:29.193 [INF] LTND: Waiting for chain backend to finish sync, start_height=547081
17:39 < fiatjaf> 2018-10-23 22:36:29.498 [INF] LNWL: Caught up to height 0
17:42 <@roasbeef> fiatjaf: yep need to wait there, if the node isn't responding for w/e reason or it isn't connected, or the connection is poor it can take some time 
17:42 <@roasbeef> we know of a future method to make the start up near instant
17:42 <@roasbeef> but that won't be in until likely the next major version 
17:43 < fiatjaf> right
17:43 < fiatjaf> I was just confused by these messages
17:43 < molz> have your bitcoind locally will help solve these issues
17:43 <@roasbeef> in the logs, you should see the # go up slowly 
17:43 <@roasbeef> remote start up atm, will take some time 
17:43 < fiatjaf> ok     
17:43 < fiatjaf> I get it
17:44 < fiatjaf> thank you, sorry for flooding the channel :P
17:44 <@roasbeef> np!     
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18:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fxX29
18:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master 9827517 sevastos: discovery/gossiper: fix logging on failed channel update
18:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master d0a2936 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #2079 from sevastos/patch-1...
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19:17 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fxXwg
19:17 -github-neutrino:#lnd- neutrino/master 328dc45 Johan T. Halseth: blockmanager: avoid dereferencing nil checkpoint hash...
19:17 -github-neutrino:#lnd- neutrino/master 23d294f Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #105 from halseth/checkpoint-nil-pointer-dereference...
19:19 -github-neutrino:#lnd- [neutrino] Roasbeef closed pull request #106: blockmanager: fix off-by-one lastHeight calculation (master...query-sync-repeated-interval) https://git.io/fxKXd
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19:59 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef closed pull request #2059: rpc: prevent spending unconfirmed funds within OpenChannel by default (master...openchannel-unconfirmed-funds) https://git.io/fxglw
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