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01:06 < molz> miketwenty1, i don't have that issue, which lnd version are you using?
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01:31 <@roasbeef> waxwing: what pubkeys? you mean the keys of a particular output? it's on the walletcontroller interface, but not rpc, what's your us case? 
01:31 <@roasbeef> stevenroose: rust-bitcoin? idk, we only let users send and make invoices of regular sat amounts atm 
01:31 <@roasbeef> qubenix: nah it'll only say info for a signel net 
01:33 <@roasbeef> qubenix: it assumes the most common set ups if any, how else is it to know that it can connect to hidden service addrs if the flag isn't active? 
01:33 <@roasbeef> miketwenty1: could hang maybe if the remot peer is hanging 
01:33 <@roasbeef> or if broadcasting took a while 
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03:06 < waxwing> roasbeef, yes of a particular output. use case is process a psbt.
03:06 < waxwing> so to attach sigs need to sign, which can def do without directly reading pubkey from an output, but partial sigs in psbt must include pubkeys.
03:07 < waxwing> hmm just thought, if i sign it i get a scriptsig/witness with the pubkey. maybe that's fine.
03:07 <@roasbeef> sign what? 
03:08 <@roasbeef> could make IsOurAddr return teh pubkey info if found 
03:09 <@roasbeef> ComputeInputScript doesn't require key descs to be set 
03:09 <@roasbeef> it was made before they were a thing, and never updated 
03:09 < waxwing> roasbeef, e.g. a coinjoin
03:10 <@roasbeef> only need to set the script: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnwallet/btcwallet/signer.go#L196
03:10 < waxwing> ah ok, i was wondering that yesterday before i got distracted :)
03:10 <@roasbeef> hehe
03:11 <@roasbeef> splicing+coinjoin tx synergizes quite well 
03:11 < waxwing> def have to extract pubkey though. but, shrug, not sure if there's anything that might be worth changing.
03:11 <@roasbeef> as you'll be able to have multie inputs and outputs in the splicing tx 
03:11 < waxwing> i'll try to write it out.
03:11 <@roasbeef> extract? you just need the script there 
03:11 <@roasbeef> btw have you tried wasabi wallet? wonder how well they do against active attacks 
03:11 < waxwing> i'm saying i need to take the pubkey out to put into the partial sig psbt field
03:11 <@roasbeef> ahh gtocha, can just get it from the witness
03:11 < waxwing> right
03:11 <@roasbeef> that method gives you the full input scrpt 
03:12 < waxwing> wasabi: yes, tried it, re: active attacks, i think there are various Qs to pay attention to, they do use a utxo banning approach tho'
03:12 < waxwing> iirc
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03:14 < waxwing> hmm a splice itself might be quite good for anonymity sets. haven't really thought about that stuff yet.
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03:32 <@roasbeef> waxwing: in a world of using a 2-of-2 ecdsa, or schnorr for the funding output, it looks lik a sendmany or a coinjoin 
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04:03 < booyah> would it be hard to directly send bitcoins to the open-channel address? saving one onchain fee
04:04 < booyah> the problem is that you need an advanced wallet to sign such transaction?
04:05 < booyah> LND would need to construct the tx, and hold (1 of 2) private keys to it (so it can update/close it), and other wallet that has the inputs would sign? 
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05:24 < qubenix> roasbeef: how does bitcoind know it can connect to onion nodes? i've got onlynet=onion on bitcoind from the same vm with no issue.
05:29 < qubenix> roasbeef: you should use env vars according to this: https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Tor_friendly_applications_best_practices
05:34 < qubenix> one more point, as the user, if i tell lnd to connect to an onion node it should at least try. otherwise it is not respecting my freedom imo.
05:40 < miketwenty1> molz, it's 5.0 beta .... maybe there is something im doing something wrong with the openchannel command? 
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05:41 < molz> miketwenty1, not sure, how did you do it?
05:41 < miketwenty1> roasbeef, I own both nodes that were connecting.. both online with 9735 alive and well (or at least i thought) ... how would i make sure the one receiving connections is fast and quick?
05:42 < molz> hm.. my c-lightning node has an onion peer.. 
05:42 < miketwenty1> roasbeef, I noticed this when using bitcoind as the backend.. im now trying out neutrino in testnet.. so not sure what my experience would be with btcd or w/e
05:43 < molz> ohhhh... he's on both clear and onion
05:43 < miketwenty1> molz, I was running both nodes with this kind of conf
05:43 < miketwenty1> [Application Options] datadir=~/.lnd/data logdir=~/.lnd/logs maxlogfiles=3 maxlogfilesize=10 ; no-macaroons=true externalip=35.221.19.201 maxpendingchannels=5 alias=u1workshop color=#FF00FF listen=127.0.0.1:9735  [Bitcoin] bitcoin.active=1 bitcoin.node=neutrino bitcoin.testnet=1 ; bitcoin.defaultchanconfs=1  [neutrino] neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community  [autopilot] ; autopilot.active=1 ; autopilot.maxchannels=5
05:45 < miketwenty1> is there something i should do to make my nodes auto accept channels... or request channels the right way?
05:46 < molz> hm not sure
05:46 < miketwenty1> I'll do something that looks like this...........
05:46 < miketwenty1> lncli openchannel 025b17864bc22bf35a4bfc1ada2e8c26a128d2aa1d364a79b7270fac457c2b4a54 50000
05:46 < miketwenty1> and then... just hangs... i would imagine it takes a couple seconds.. i've let this sit sometimes over 2-3 minutes
05:46 < miketwenty1> and i'll ^C... and then you will see it as pending
05:47 < molz> can't find that node
05:47 < miketwenty1> this was last night
05:47 < miketwenty1> hold on let me spin it back up
05:50 < miketwenty1> 025b17864bc22bf35a4bfc1ada2e8c26a128d2aa1d364a79b7270fac457c2b4a54@35.236.244.61:9735
05:50 < miketwenty1> molz, this is on testnet
05:50 < miketwenty1> if you want to see if you can connect here.. this is now live
05:50 < miketwenty1> i can connect just fine... just opening the channels is what gives me issues
05:52 < molz> miketwenty1, i wouldn't waste time to dwell on a node, try another node
05:53 < miketwenty1> these are my nodes.,
05:53 < molz> oh     
05:53 < miketwenty1> molz, i spun up 3 nodes last night trying to test this out with myself
05:53 < molz> are they on a same machine?
05:53 < miketwenty1> no     
05:53 < molz> are the ports opened?
05:53 < miketwenty1> yes     
05:54 < miketwenty1> listening and firewall is set right.. netcat and nmap both showing so as well.. and was able to open channels .. it's just hacky
05:54 < miketwenty1> for instance in my eclair testnet wallet
05:54 < miketwenty1> it says "WAIT_FOR_ACCEPT_CHANNEL"
05:54 < miketwenty1> almost like my node is waiting on me to confirm the channel
05:55 < miketwenty1> or something
05:55 < molz> im trying to open a channel to your node, it hangs too
05:55 < molz> so something is wrong with your node
05:55 < miketwenty1> so my node is configured incorrectly.. but this happened with neutrino and bitcoind .......
05:55 < miketwenty1> so im not sure what's configured wrong
05:57 < miketwenty1> running another make & make install
05:59 < miketwenty1> molz, i only need port 9735 open right?
05:59 < molz> https://paste.ee/p/c4mf8#qvOi2LcOyhSh0HmDPab3RBwTGTOvJAnS
06:00 < molz> yea port 9735 needs to be opened if you want incoming connections
06:02 < miketwenty1> https://paste.ee/p/0x0y3
06:02 < miketwenty1> maybe im running lnd daemon wrong
06:03 < miketwenty1> what version of lnd are you running?
06:05 < molz>  "version": "0.5.0-beta commit=v0.5-beta-305-gc0fadcc89b2f09c193e5c313001582b562793615"
06:10 < molz> im updating now to the most latest master
06:10 < molz> Previous HEAD position was c0fadcc... Merge pull request #1944 from joostjager/sendroute-pubkey
06:10 < molz> HEAD is now at d4b042d... Merge pull request #2159 from halseth/integration-tests-net-aware-db
06:10 < miketwenty1> i accidentally was using master... i switched to v0.5-beta
06:11 < miketwenty1> and make & make install
06:11 < miketwenty1> we'll see if that changes anything
06:11 < molz> i wouldn't use 0.5-beta
06:11 < miketwenty1> what would you recommend?
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06:11 < molz> im running master on mainnet too
06:11 < molz> git fetch
06:11 < miketwenty1> im only doing testnet
06:11 < molz> git checkout origin/master
06:11 < miketwenty1> you recommend master?
06:12 < molz> 0.5-beta had bugs that got fixed in master
06:13 < miketwenty1> can't find import: "github.com/golang/protobuf/proto"
06:14 < miketwenty1> gocode/src/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/vendor/google.golang.org/grpc/grpclb/grpc_lb_v1: no such file or directory
06:14 < miketwenty1> chainntnfs/neutrinonotify/neutrino.go:945:26: n.p2pNode.GetBlockHeight undefined (type *neutrino.ChainService has no field or method GetBlockHeight)
06:14 < miketwenty1> seems like im getting errors
06:14 < molz> miketwenty1, "make clean"
06:15 < miketwenty1> did a make clean
06:16 < miketwenty1> did a make & make install
06:16 < miketwenty1> Makefile:140: recipe for target 'install' failed make: *** [install] Error 2 [1]+  Done                    make
06:16 < miketwenty1> maybe it was this??
06:16 < miketwenty1> ../../btcsuite/btcwallet/walletdb/bdb/db.go:12:2: imported and not used: "github.com/coreos/bbolt" ../../btcsuite/btcwallet/walletdb/bdb/db.go:55:10: undefined: bolt
06:17 < molz> maybe update btcd
06:18 < molz> https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd#linuxbsdmacosxposix---build-from-source-1
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06:18 < miketwenty1> ok... i think everyone is kinda running btcd?
06:19 < miketwenty1> i was trying to go the route of not installing it
06:19 < molz> well even if you're not using it you need to update it
06:19 < molz> it's in the package
06:19 < molz> don't ask me why, ask roasbeef :D
06:20 < miketwenty1> molz, thanks we'll see if that works
06:21 < miketwenty1> if you try to run a node from scratch using bitcoind only or neutrino
06:21 < miketwenty1> im guessing you would fall in the same pits as me
06:21 < miketwenty1> so this might be it
06:24 < miketwenty1> thanks molz i'll let you know ... this needs to be added to the install README.md if so.. i can make a PR if this works
06:26 < miketwenty1> hmmm still seems to be hanging
06:27 < miketwenty1> with the opening of channels
06:27 < miketwenty1> with the opening of channels to the node*
06:28 < molz> you have this in the lnd.conf for this node?: externalip=35.221.19.201
06:28 < molz> isn't a different ip?
06:29 < qubenix> miketwenty1: many of us run with bitcoind without channel issues
06:30 < molz> he's running this with neutrino
06:30 < qubenix> < miketwenty1> ok... i think everyone is kinda running btcd? < i was referencing that
06:31 < molz> and whichever the backend he's using, it's not the issue here
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07:41 < miketwenty1> molz, not sure if you responded lost all the conversation.. is there a log of this channel anywhere?
07:43 < molz> miketwenty1, sorry there's no public log 
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07:47 < molz> miketwenty1, is there another lnd or c-lightning node running on the same machine with this node?
07:48 < molz> or eclair node
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08:30 < miketwenty1> molz, no it's a clean server ubuntu 16.04
08:30 < miketwenty1> only has go 
08:30 < miketwenty1> and now btcd
08:30 < miketwenty1> pretty much just following the README.md install guide
08:31 < miketwenty1> ubuntu 16.04 LTS on google cloud
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09:11 < molz> miketwenty1, can that node connect/openchannel to another node?
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09:52 < miketwenty1> molz, we are going through the install completely from scratch again
09:52 < miketwenty1> now getting a new error
09:52 < miketwenty1> [ERR] SRVR: Unable to retrieve initial bootstrap peers: no addresses found
09:52 < miketwenty1> why would it do this?
09:53 < miketwenty1> 2018-11-10 17:52:35.140 [ERR] DISC: Unable to query bootstrapper BOLT-0010 DNS Seed: [[test.nodes.lightning.directory soa.nodes.lightning.directory]]: lookup soa.nodes.lightning.directory on 169.254.169.254:53: server misbehaving
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09:56 < miketwenty1> im guessing neutrino node that is used for most of the bootstrapping is down right now?
09:56 < miketwenty1> running `lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --bitcoin.node=neutrino --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community`
09:56 < molz> hm not sure
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10:45 < miketwenty1> roasbeef, seems that dns or some bootstrap node for neutrino testnet is down..
10:45 < miketwenty1> molz, ^ maybe there's another server i can specify for neutrino?
10:47 < molz> it seems the node cluster is down or something, if you have a local btcd, you can run your lnd and use the local btcd as the neutrino backend
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11:26 < miketwenty1> molz, even though im not able to get peers or routes.. everything is working fine now
11:27 < miketwenty1> with my network of nodes
11:30 < molz> oh cool
11:30 < miketwenty1> molz, so btcd is running
11:30 < miketwenty1> i did the make btcd 
11:30 < miketwenty1> and ran it with simple command.. i think that did something 
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14:39 < waxwing> when i restart btcd simnet after a computer restart, and then start my local lnd, i get " SRVR: unable to start server: -1: Block number out of range". i'm forgetting something dumb; the simnet instance is still there, at block height 821.
14:39 < waxwing> more specifically it says:
14:40 < waxwing> 2018-11-10 23:39:15.204 [INF] CRTR: Prune tip for Channel Graph: height=822, hash=58dcb5e80fa6bd610aef6bb396871edfc79d612b81824921d8917a6bd5025bac
14:40 < waxwing> 2018-11-10 23:39:15.204 [ERR] SRVR: unable to start server: -1: Block number out of range
14:44 < waxwing> generating a new block fixed it, which is .. weird :)
15:04 < waxwing> cool, i can decode psbts :)
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16:34 <@roasbeef> qubenix: yeh it sets a flag, same a lnd, it expects a flag 
16:35 <@roasbeef> waxwing: gotta mine a block every so often 
16:35 <@roasbeef> otherwise it thinks things aren't synced 
16:37 < molz> roasbeef, are you exploring the Outback?
16:39 < qubenix> roasbeef: what sets a flag, bitcoind? when i run bitcoind default i can still connect to onion nodes if i tell it to.
16:39 <@roasbeef> fought a kangaroon the other day 
16:39 <@roasbeef> qubenix: only-net, or w/e it is? 
16:40 < qubenix> i can connect to onion nodes without that setting
16:40 < qubenix> lnd is the only app ive ever come across that treats me like i don't know how to use my own tor
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16:41 <@roasbeef> yeh we enforce a more explicit set up 
16:41 <@roasbeef> heh     
16:41 <@roasbeef> well it attempts to make it easy for noob users, and let advanced users configure the rest via proxies and the torcfg file 
16:41 <@roasbeef> so you want lnd to attempt to connect to tor addrs always even if the config isn't set? 
16:42 < qubenix> if i tell it to
16:42 <@roasbeef> and how would you prefer to tell it to? 
16:43 < qubenix> if tor.active=1 && tor.socks=not localhost then allow listening on other interfaces
16:43 < qubenix> that would resolve it
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16:44 < qubenix> but also the user should be able to override anything with "lncli connect blabla.onion"
16:44 <@roasbeef> you can do that today, just don't set tor active, and then use the torcfg to proxy into localhost, and allow to listen on other interfaces 
16:44 <@roasbeef> we don't expose a hybrid set up by default 
16:45 < qubenix> right but then it dont let me connect to onions
16:45 < qubenix> i want to remain in tor network if possible
16:50 < qubenix> once we get this worked out i can work on an onion-grater profile for lnd. i just made one for bitcoind that got merged into Whonix.
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17:20 < stevenroose> Veggen, roasbeef, thanks. yeah working quite a bit on rust-bitcoin recently, enjoying it :)
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