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[lnd] joostjager opened pull request #2354: Invoice state (master...invoice-state) https://git.io/fheBO 01:00 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-ufhwikdemopqlyvp] has left #lnd [] 01:02 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:d943:c0b9:80e8:b3e8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:23 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has joined #lnd 01:33 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 01:34 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #lnd 01:36 -!- botka [~nodebot@static.171.39.76.144.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:37 -!- botka [~nodebot@static.171.39.76.144.clients.your-server.de] has joined #lnd 01:37 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has joined #lnd 01:42 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:44 -!- farmerwampum 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invoices: create package (master...move-invoices) https://git.io/fheVx 02:59 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-xpwgannxaoiimasq] has left #lnd [] 02:59 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 03:04 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Quit: farmerwampum] 03:04 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 03:11 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-xuaqegzwonmzhebg] has joined #lnd 03:11 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] joostjager opened pull request #2356: invoices: add subscribesingleinvoice [no review] (master...invoices-subserver) https://git.io/fhewo 03:11 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-xuaqegzwonmzhebg] has left #lnd [] 03:14 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Quit: farmerwampum] 03:14 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 03:14 < tuxx> [lncli] unable to read macaroon path (check the network setting!): open /home/lnd/.lnd/data/chain/bitcoin/mainnet/admin.macaroon: no such file or directory 03:15 < tuxx> i'm running lnd with bitcoind and i get that when running "lncli getinfo" 03:16 < tuxx> ah --no-macaroons :D 03:16 < tuxx> jesus macaroons are obnoxious :D 03:17 < tuxx> lncli --no-macaroons create also gives me an error: 03:17 < tuxx> [lncli] unable to generate seed: rpc error: code = Unimplemented desc = unknown service lnrpc.WalletUnlocker 03:24 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has joined #lnd 03:28 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:30 < Veggen> tuxx: don't use no-macaroons? 03:30 < Veggen> ever? 03:30 < tuxx> Veggen: well i'm using bitcoind 03:30 -!- aielima [~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:31 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 03:31 < Veggen> uh..but macaroons are towards LND, not bitcoind? 03:31 -!- 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testnet so haven't tried simnet 08:50 < tuxx> molz: ah well if you are developing you can just say mine 100 blocks now! 08:50 < tuxx> in testnet you have to wait 10mins :D 08:51 < molz> yea haha 08:51 < molz> tuxx, so docker works ok now? 08:53 < tuxx> yea 08:53 < tuxx> i'm working on making it more fancy with more bling bling 08:53 < molz> haha cool :D 08:54 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:00 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 09:00 < tuxx> We need at least 100 blocks because coinbase funds can’t be spent until after 100 confirmations 09:00 < tuxx> what is the rational behind that i wonder 09:01 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:02 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 09:02 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:04 -!- farmerwampum 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09:32 < tuxx> slightly confusing at times :) 09:42 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:42 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 09:46 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has joined #lnd 09:49 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:49 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:50 < tuxx> sweet my first successful simnet payment 09:54 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:55 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:56 < molz> tuxx the 100 block rule is bitcoin's rule 09:56 < molz> for coinbase coins 09:56 < tuxx> oh rly.. 09:58 < tuxx> wasnt aware actually 10:00 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05 < tuxx> i wish lightning app was available for android :/ 10:12 < buZz> tuxx: there are LN programs for that platform? 10:12 < buZz> i mean, there are 10:12 < buZz> what makes you think there arent? 10:17 < Talkless> tuxx: like enclair? 10:17 < tuxx> which can only send payments not accept right? 10:18 < tuxx> i never said their arent.. i said i wish "lightning app" from lightning labs was android enabled 10:18 < Talkless> right, literally "lightning app" :) 10:18 < tuxx> Talkless: last i checked you can cld only send ln payments using eclair not receive any 10:19 < Talkless> tuxx: yeah probably, we kinda need watchtowers to support offlining-nondes better I guess 10:19 < Talkless> ndoes* 10:19 < Talkless> nodes** 10:19 < Talkless> does "Linghting Wallet" support receiving on Desktop? 10:19 < tuxx> Talkless: we're speaking about lightning app? 10:20 < Talkless> sorry yeah "App" not "wallet" 10:20 < tuxx> yea it does 10:20 < Talkless> I see, that's cool. 10:21 < tuxx> i want to setup lightning with my flatmates and when we owe eachother money we will send eachother symbolically testnet bitcoins... and at the end of the month we redeem for real cash :D 10:23 < Talkless> actually, I guess enclair could too receive with lock time of two weeks for example, and pushing local notification as reminder to turn it on for checking for breaches :) 10:23 < Talkless> Yeah I am dreaming too, that one day we (the friends) could split the bills using lightning :) 10:23 < Talkless> "Thank's talkless for bringing pica! how much? - 30k satoshis. :) " 10:25 < buZz> 'app' lol 10:25 * buZz wishes people spoke english 10:26 < Talkless> Okok, "Computer Program", if you will :) 10:27 < buZz> Talkless: so not a 'app' that runs in a VM only? 10:28 < Talkless> VM? You mean in Electron "browser-app" ? 10:30 < buZz> no 10:30 < buZz> android is a java virtual machine 10:30 < buZz> the 'apps' on it depend on the virtual machine for operation 10:30 < buZz> they dont exist outside of it 10:30 < buZz> 'computer programs' otoh actually run on the OS 10:31 < molz> buZz, there's "Lightning-App" :P 10:32 < molz> in testing 10:32 < buZz> rofl 10:32 < buZz> molz: on android? 10:32 < molz> no 10:32 < molz> not yet 10:32 < buZz> where then? 10:32 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has joined #lnd 10:32 < molz> lnd 10:33 < molz> https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app 10:33 < buZz> looks like a website 10:33 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:33 < buZz> ah, it -is- a website 10:33 < buZz> yeah i'd never use that 10:33 < molz> probably not for you :P 10:33 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 10:34 < molz> but the app runs on neutrino 10:34 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Quit: farmerwampum] 10:34 < buZz> i agree, it would be my go-to program if i was complaining my LN transactions werent taking enough cpu and ram 10:34 < buZz> somehow i never was in that position :D 10:34 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 10:34 < Talkless> I've got disconnected, what have I missed? 10:35 < buZz> targets, deadlines 10:36 < molz> lol 10:37 < molz> Talkless, what was the last line you saw? 10:37 < Talkless> molz: [20:28] VM? You mean in Electron "browser-app" ? 10:37 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:38 < molz> Talkless, https://dpaste.de/Lgyv 10:38 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Client Quit] 10:39 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 10:39 < Talkless> thanks molz 10:52 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has joined #lnd 10:52 -!- thomasanderson [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:a0cc:6468:c649:328a] has quit [Client Quit] 10:59 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Quit: farmerwampum] 10:59 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 11:03 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has quit [Client Quit] 11:04 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@184.75.220.66] has joined #lnd 11:31 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has quit [Quit: https://www.Quanto.ga/] 11:35 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has joined #lnd 11:37 < ekiro> when tlaking about btc and lnd, do you say "bitcoin over lightning" or "bitcoin lightning" 11:39 -!- kim0 [uid105149@ubuntu/member/kim0] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:42 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@77.70.119.51] has joined #lnd 11:57 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:57 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 12:03 < molz> ekiro, layer2 12:04 < ekiro> bitcoin layer 2? 12:04 < ekiro> that's not good for marketing 12:05 < ekiro> bitcoin over the lightning network, bitcoin over lightning ("bitcoin lighting") 12:05 < ekiro> better for marketing 12:06 < ekiro> i'm working on putting a cool short video together demonstrating placing an actual order on blockstream, make a micro payment on satoshis.place, then end if with a "2 days later..." showing my order from blockstream arrived... gives people the idea that real money was ecvhanged and a physical good received. 12:06 < ekiro> I'll try to make the video look as nice as possible in the most optimal setting. 12:07 < ekiro> I was so impressed how fast my first txn went through that i felt compelled to repeat it by recording it and showing it to the world 12:07 < ekiro> hope it speads on youtube and whatnot and gets more people behind ln 12:08 < ekiro> I've been thinking of using the title: Bitcoin over Lightning is stupid fast! :) 12:09 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:09 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 12:16 < Talkless> ekiro: "Bitcoin using Lightning Network", "Bitcoin via Lightning Network" ? 12:16 < ekiro> Bitcoin via Lightning Network. +1 12:19 < Talkless> ekiro: it could be via Liquid or via RSK, in time, when they will be popular/functional enought :) 12:20 < Talkless> kbye 12:20 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:25 < ekiro> indeed 12:30 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: drexl] 12:30 -!- drexl [~drexl@cpc130676-camd16-2-0-cust445.know.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 12:39 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 12:40 < ctrlbreak> LN/BTC 12:49 -!- e4xit [~e4xit@cpc123762-trow7-2-0-cust7.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lnd 13:05 -!- manantial [~tecnecio@unaffiliated/manantial] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:25 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:26 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has joined #lnd 13:29 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:38 < spaced0ut> do you get a bounty for noticing dishonest transactions on lightning? 13:38 < spaced0ut> was reading this page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2612069.0 13:39 < spaced0ut> describing a hypothetical chess game and one of the lines is "Dog will then be awarded the full 1 BTC, and Cat will lose all her remaining money. Anyone else observing the matter may also catch Cat out, and receive a small bounty from the total balance for doing so." 13:39 < lndbot> Yes you can get a bounty but this is not implemented in lnd yet 13:39 < spaced0ut> how would an outside observer notice or be able to prove that someone broadcast a dishonest tx? 13:40 < spaced0ut> if they somehow witnessed a later signature in the other peoples lightning channel? 13:40 < lndbot> They are scanning for transactions that match things they know about 13:41 < spaced0ut> ah so basically any node would be able to do that 13:41 < lndbot> If they know the proper state of things 13:41 < spaced0ut> would they be choosing to save that witness data unrelated to them or is that done by default? 13:58 < lndbot> They would have to set some space aside for it, likely nothing would ever happen 13:59 < lndbot> I’ve run my node with many hundreds of peers and channels for a year and had zero breach attempts 14:03 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hbfbirqgvckyptqt] has joined #lnd 14:03 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] joostjager opened pull request #2357: htlcswitch: remove lnrpc dependency (master...remove-lnrpc-dep) https://git.io/fhvgA 14:03 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hbfbirqgvckyptqt] has left #lnd [] 14:03 < Veggen> alexbosworth: not even the accidental one? 14:04 < lndbot> I never had any 14:04 < Veggen> skyrus actually tried to give me more money than I was enntitled. And my node didn't accept that, so it took it all ;) 14:05 < Veggen> (of course, this being at the stage where we basically talked about channels personally, I gave it back to him) 14:12 -!- laptop__ [~laptop@host86-175-127-233.range86-175.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:52 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:53 < molz> yea that happened in March 15:20 < ekiro> what is this #reckless lightning heads talk about.? 15:24 < molz> wow.. ekiro how long have you been in bitcoin world? 15:24 < ekiro> 2013 15:24 < ekiro> but more as an investor/holder 15:25 < molz> oh really 15:25 < ekiro> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154233 15:30 < ekiro> what drew me in were the casascius physical bitcoins mike caldwell made. looked so nice. scooped up as many rolls as i could. 15:30 < ekiro> got them graded too 15:31 < ekiro> https://miza.org/ekiroCas.jpg 15:34 < ekiro> https://miza.org/ekiroCasBar.jpg 16:00 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@host86-140-18-12.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lnd 16:26 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 16:31 <@roasbeef> lnd is doing 16:43 < midnightmagic> you're gonna trigger sigyn lol 16:53 < molz> lol 17:16 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hefblqidatufvrzf] has joined #lnd 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/fhvXL 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master cfe8c88 Federico Bond: Remove unused LightningWallet.rootKey field 17:16 -github-lnd:#lnd- lnd/master bd0177d Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #2325 from federicobond/remove-unused-rootkey... 17:16 -!- github-lnd [github-lnd@gateway/service/github.com/x-hefblqidatufvrzf] has left #lnd [] 17:19 < tuxx> roasbeef: hey .. is this the most up-to-date lighning wire specification? https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc 17:20 <@roasbeef> yee 17:20 < tuxx> kewl 17:20 <@roasbeef> also: https://godoc.org/github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/lnwire 17:20 <@roasbeef> slightly diff view 17:21 < tuxx> i'm going to give c-lightning fuzzing another shot 17:21 < tuxx> i kinda got bored last time and stopped digging 17:21 < tuxx> but i'd like to try fuzzing the wire protocol.. 17:21 < tuxx> should be fairly easy to drill into it... or is there alot of state involved? 17:24 < tuxx> are there statistics of how many people are running which version of lightning? i.e. lnd vs c-lightning? 17:24 < tuxx> maybe ask shodan :) 17:31 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has joined #lnd 17:50 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:51 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:02 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@host86-140-18-12.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 18:03 <@roasbeef> tuxx: no official stuff, but routing node network is mostly lnd in terms of coins in chans 18:06 < tuxx> roasbeef: i guess none of the ports publically leak any version headers or anything like that? 18:07 < tuxx> do ln nodes announce themselves to eachother? 18:07 < tuxx> i guess they do.. or else autopilot wouldnt work 18:08 < tuxx> or routing for that matter 18:08 < tuxx> would be cool to write a crawler that fingerprints the hosts inside the network 18:11 <@roasbeef> version? not but not too hard to fingerprint rn based on things like default node alias and channel policy 18:14 -!- e4xit [~e4xit@cpc123762-trow7-2-0-cust7.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:18 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@247.83.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has joined #lnd 19:09 -!- frib [~dynorsau@pool-71-167-9-152.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lnd 19:55 -!- midnightmagic [~midnightm@unaffiliated/midnightmagic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:27 -!- sbong [~sbong@216.221.228.6] has joined #lnd 20:27 -!- sbong [~sbong@216.221.228.6] has quit [Client Quit] 20:30 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has quit [Quit: ekiro] 20:31 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has joined #lnd 20:32 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has quit [Client Quit] 20:33 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 20:34 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:39 -!- ekiro [~ekiro@unaffiliated/ekiro] has joined #lnd 20:41 < ekiro> there a cmd to get ln's blockchain size? 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