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09:29 < BB-Martino> Before I (re-)submit an issue on Github, I wanted to know if I'm missing anything so I'm going to ask here: 09:29 < BB-Martino> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/1867 09:29 -!- foureighttwonine [~foureight@82.102.28.107] has quit [Quit: foureighttwonine] 09:29 < BB-Martino> This was closed in reference to a separate bug about payments not closing until a restart. Some feedback to other users was "increase your read timeout" 09:31 < BB-Martino> My assumption is that even if I break the connection and stop reading (already it's sketchy because it wouldn't be atomic), for example I set the read timeout to 10 seconds and the payment completes in 15 seconds, it will still go through, I just won't know about it. Am I incorrect? 09:32 < BB-Martino> If not, invoice payments desperately need a timeout that I can set. Through a web-interface, I would really prefer to give it say 10-20 seconds max and then reject it if no route has been found in that time. Currently I don't think it's possible to do. 09:48 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hbhticbyalbephxt] has joined #lnd 10:07 -!- sanket1729 [~sanket172@mobile-130-126-255-49.near.illinois.edu] has joined #lnd 10:09 -!- jungly [~quassel@79.8.200.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:13 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:14 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 10:15 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:bc02:4d2:4cb9:a6ef] has joined #lnd 10:17 -!- pinkTiger [pinkTiger@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/pinktiger] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:19 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 10:22 < lndbot> There are design limitations 10:23 < lndbot> I would read about the cltv locks before opening an issue 10:25 -!- pinkTiger [~pinkTiger@174-16-164-138.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lnd 10:25 < sanket1729> is this channel logged somewhere? 10:25 < molz> no 10:33 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:bc02:4d2:4cb9:a6ef] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:37 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:bc02:4d2:4cb9:a6ef] has joined #lnd 10:50 < sanket1729> What rpc's can I use to figure out my total receive capacity? 10:53 -!- _Sam-- [greybits@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/sam--/x-37783179] has joined #lnd 10:55 < lndbot> List channels 10:56 < lndbot> I have a command line tool you can look at https://github.com/alexbosworth/balanceofsatoshis but it will only show you the total not individual limit 10:59 -!- chunkypuffs [~chunkypuf@2a01:4f9:2b:16d5::1] has joined #lnd 11:00 < sanket1729> If I want to receive amount more than balance of any single channel, but less than total amount, is that taken care automatically? Do I need separate invoices? 11:00 < sanket1729> sorry, by balance, I mean the receive capacity 11:02 < lndbot> You currently need separate invoices 11:03 < lndbot> In the future there will be features like base AMP and other AMP formulations that allow a single invoice 11:15 < BB-Martino> Alex: thanks for the response. I have done that, but it's still foggy how/why CLTV prevents the path finding from taking forever. Maybe I can better understand it if you could tell me: what defines or what constitutes the limitation for the maximum amount of time I *must* wait before an invoice payment attempt is given up? 11:15 < BB-Martino> Or to demonstrate using a practical hypothetical: let's say I issued a `payinvoice` request and then cut the plug and lit the node on fire - is there a period of time during which the payment could get processed no matter what I did? 11:17 < BB-Martino> Just to clarify, I'm not talking about opening/closing channels, just paying an invoice alone. 11:20 -!- so_ [~so@unaffiliated/so] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:20 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:20 -!- so [~so@unaffiliated/so] has joined #lnd 11:22 < lndbot> Cltv defines the timeout if the tx goes to chain 11:22 < lndbot> Each hop has a cltv delta it adds 11:24 < lndbot> There’s an upcoming feature to allow you to choose a maximal timeout 11:24 < lndbot> Lower cltv restrictions could mean more expensive routes or unavailable routes though 11:28 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:bc02:4d2:4cb9:a6ef] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:29 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:40 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 11:41 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:49 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:00 -!- pinkTiger [~pinkTiger@174-16-164-138.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:07 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@203.86.194.68] has joined #lnd 12:27 -!- rafalcpp_ [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has joined #lnd 12:28 -!- rafalcpp [~racalcppp@84-10-11-234.static.chello.pl] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:00 -!- booyah_ is now known as booyah 13:12 -!- rlsy [~rls@192.96.205.163] has quit [Quit: rip] 13:30 -!- melvin_ 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BIP39 and it would have 24 words, but then he ditched that,here's the PR: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/719 14:30 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:9c07:c41b:3d42:c71] has joined #lnd 14:31 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:31 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 14:31 < molz> he then chose AEZEED and also 24 words, in this PR: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/773 14:32 < molz> we never used BIP39 in production, it was only on testnet for 20 days 14:43 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:9c07:c41b:3d42:c71] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:49 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:9c07:c41b:3d42:c71] has joined #lnd 14:55 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@2605:a601:b021:f00:9c07:c41b:3d42:c71] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:55 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:55 -!- DeanGuss 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