--- Day changed Sat Mar 23 2019 00:00 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:04 -!- RonNa [~quassel@220-133-223-206.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #lnd 00:58 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 01:05 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:53 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 01:59 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:08 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 02:18 -!- aerth [~aerth@gateway/tor-sasl/aerth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19 -!- aerth [~aerth@gateway/tor-sasl/aerth] has joined #lnd 02:24 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 02:40 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:19 < Talkless> fwdinghistory dissapears after restart? 03:23 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 03:33 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 03:37 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Client Quit] 03:38 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 03:45 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 03:47 < molz> Talkless, what do you mean? 03:48 < Talkless> molz: hi, either I don't know how to use it, or this history is kept only until restart..? I don't see any record, though there where some time ago 03:51 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 03:51 < Talkless> molz: i've closed most of lnbig channels, but still got sort of spam, and packets where incomming from basically all peers. I see correlation of lnd traffic and hdd utilization. It feels as if somewhoe spams whole lnd network? 03:52 < Talkless> I could not pinpoint single peer, I get receives from number of them 03:54 < Talkless> Now hdd usage low, and I did payment in ~6 seconds, while during load I takes forever... or just timeouts... 04:00 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 04:11 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 04:11 < molz> Talkless, that history only last 24 hours 04:12 < molz> there's a way to see from date to date of the history 04:12 < Talkless> oh, see. It would be nice to have statistics for longer period :) 04:12 < molz> you can also do 'lncli feereport' 04:12 < molz> read the manual, luke 04:12 < molz> lncli fwdinghistory -h 04:12 < Talkless> although for bigger nodes that would be just lost's of waste data... 04:12 < molz> i don't care for bigger nodes 04:13 < molz> they're a bunch of nuisance 04:13 < Talkless> molz: -h suggests start end dates, tried end 99999..., no records 04:13 < molz> no idea then 04:13 < Talkless> molz: I mean if fwdinghistory would be kept for longer time, it would consume memory/hdd for big nodes, it's unreasonable to ask to keep history longer. 04:13 < molz> but it's not 04:14 < Talkless> molz: well you explained that it only lasts for 24 hours, that's understandable then. 04:14 < Talkless> molz: do you know any work on this "spam" in lnd? 04:14 < Talkless> to handle "spam" ? 04:14 < Talkless> to reduce writes etc..? 04:14 < molz> you have to ban them in iptables 04:15 < Talkless> molz: that's kinda regular work 04:15 < molz> that's how networking works 04:15 < Talkless> and I really don't see THE node that spams, I see traffic from number of them, as if it is replayed from some more distance 04:16 < Talkless> and that "spam", it's challen updates? 04:16 < Talkless> channel* 04:16 < Talkless> lnd stores this info on disk? 04:18 < molz> https://paste.ee/p/rok5m#hIVsCoZWKtqJNxa6kIbxs1icIzcg88pE 04:19 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:21 < Talkless> molz: I know how to drp packets, etc.. that's not the point 04:21 < Talkless> I'm talking about some sort of lnd optimization to reduce hdd load on "spam", whateer that spam is 04:21 < Talkless> not to store immediately on disk, bach or just ignore lot's of updates, whetever.. something. 04:24 < molz> Talkless, you can contribute to the code, it's always welcomed 04:44 < molz> Talkless, our next release will fix much of the flappy channels and enable/disable spam 04:45 < Talkless> molz: that's encouraging! :) 04:55 < molz> but i don't expect any other software to do this for me while iptables already can 04:59 < molz> Talkless, this is not the first spam, we had spams with dust channels over a year ago, now we have spams with big channels, expect more spams and adversaries, this is old story with bitcoin and bitcoin related projects 05:01 < molz> spams on bitcoin nodes happen all the time 05:01 < molz> brought up a node on a new IP, within 5 minutes I has 12 inbound connections... all of them were mass connectors on my published banlists... 05:01 < molz> so are mass connectors chewing up >10% of inbound port capacity? 05:01 < molz> My list of banworthy unsubtle bitcoin spies and mass connectors has been updated! https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.cli.txt https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.gui.txt 05:10 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 05:10 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Client Quit] 05:28 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 05:30 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Client Quit] 05:41 < Talkless> molz: yeah I've imported that banslist 06:24 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 07:03 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 07:07 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:27 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:27 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lnd 07:40 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 08:00 -!- booyah_ is now known as booyah 08:20 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 08:27 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:37 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:40 -!- pokazef [~mikael@gally.nute.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 08:41 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:42 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lnd 08:42 -!- pokazef [~mikael@gally.nute.net] has joined #lnd 08:51 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 09:10 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 09:18 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has joined #lnd 09:25 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@146.185.56.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:36 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:37 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 13:03 < Akihabara> hi guys. how are you? i want to setup a full node in mainnet. do you suggest to order a VPS instead of a home device? 13:08 -!- hsmiths [uid95325@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmxtfnbvjnubucve] has joined #lnd 13:12 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 13:26 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:37 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 13:40 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 13:45 < lndbot> Depends on your use-case, you can do either one 13:55 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:55 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:10 < Talkless> Akihabara: so what's your decidion? 14:10 < Talkless> decision* ugh.. 14:20 < Talkless> alexbosworth: is this fine "blocks_til_maturity": -611 ? 14:20 < lndbot> Yeah 14:20 < Talkless> it's in pending_force_closing_channels 14:22 < Talkless> alexbosworth is lnd waiting for lock time to pass..? But I would imaging "maturiti" would actually mean that... 14:23 < lndbot> It’s no longer constrained by the locktime 14:23 < lndbot> Are you on master? 14:25 < Talkless> no, latest tag 14:25 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:25 < Talkless> 0.5.2 I believe 14:25 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:25 < Talkless> so why I still see it in pending channels? 14:26 < Talkless> maybe ammount is too small, not worth to return to wallet? (it's 1023 sat) 14:30 < lndbot> There are changes coming that will make it more aggressive about cleaning up small amounts, in 0.5.2 it leaves them alone if they are too small 14:31 < molz> Talkless, is that amount in your 'walletbalance' ? 14:31 < Talkless> molz: all zeroes 14:32 < molz> probably not enough to be swept but once you have another tx it might be swept with that tx 14:32 < Talkless> ok 14:33 < molz> hm or maybe 0.5.2 doesn't have this feature yet, 14:33 < lndbot> It doesn’t 14:33 < molz> i had a few txs with dust amts and they got swept when i updated to master back in Dec or Jan 14:39 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:40 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:42 < Akihabara> i ran a full node on testnet last year 14:42 < Akihabara> i really want to become a good member of ln 14:42 < Akihabara> i want to study and understand in depth and experime t 14:42 < Akihabara> i prefer to run it on a vps 14:43 < lndbot> Go for it 14:45 < Akihabara> where can i start studying about ln again? any good source?? 14:46 < lndbot> There is a wiki setup https://lightningwiki.net/ 14:46 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 14:58 < molz> Talkless, koalaty time is going to be on in one minute if you want to tune in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xag62MEmq-Q&feature=youtu.be 15:00 < molz> LightningKoala is going to chat with Stephan Livera how he got into Lightning and what he's been working on 15:00 < Talkless> cool 15:00 < lndbot> fascinating 15:00 < Talkless> I do listen SLP time to time, during workout, nice interviews. 15:03 < molz> they're on 15:08 -!- marijnfs__ [~marijnfs@x4d097cce.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13 < Akihabara> thanks lndbot 15:22 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:25 < Akihabara> hi molly!!! 15:47 -!- JackH [~laptop@92.118.153.193] has joined #lnd 15:57 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:59 < molz> well that was a good show 16:00 < molz> hi Akihabara 16:11 < Akihabara> im going to start my dedicated node very soon 16:26 -!- JackH [~laptop@92.118.153.193] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:03 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@185.86.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has joined #lnd 17:20 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:50 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@185.86.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:58 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 20:16 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:32 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]