--- Day changed Fri May 24 2019 00:17 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 00:22 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:24 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 00:27 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 00:35 -!- dongcarl [sid321684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzncccinhiyhvoyi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:35 -!- pierre_rochard [sid299882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwgvhemjnsjdvxgh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:37 -!- junderw [sid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smhbfnuuaabsovzi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:37 < lndbot> x000 it will be increasingly difficult for nodes to have knowledge of all other channels as the network increases, so you will imagine not every node will know about every other node's channels. so at some point there will be nodes which have more insight into the network then others. 00:43 -!- pierre_rochard [sid299882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrnidxvyeecaupml] has joined #lnd 00:44 -!- junderw [sid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upbezbtkrvlhsugk] has joined #lnd 00:48 -!- dongcarl [sid321684@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-afypfpqlkpwckppz] has joined #lnd 00:53 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@static-91-225-135-27.devs.futuro.pl] has joined #lnd 01:07 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-midqjhdtdxxxpojh] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:10 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fycyamfjdfnhbxri] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:10 -!- pierre_rochard [sid299882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrnidxvyeecaupml] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:11 -!- rompert_ [sid13298@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjyaeqdggxvgrmvo] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:11 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vfzkxrzsqvjevwdv] has joined #lnd 01:11 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cvjzmtcswfivhrfv] has joined #lnd 01:12 -!- rompert_ [sid13298@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxijeubfstfvmzfj] has joined #lnd 01:13 -!- pierre_rochard [sid299882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-udqkopijuxlfymqn] has joined #lnd 01:18 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 01:19 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:19 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 01:20 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 01:42 -!- scoop_ [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:45 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:46 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 01:46 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:47 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 01:52 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:04 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has joined #lnd 02:11 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 02:14 -!- chunkypuffs [~chunkypuf@2a01:4f9:2b:16d5::1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:16 -!- chunkypuffs [~chunkypuf@2a01:4f9:2b:16d5::1] has joined #lnd 02:16 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:17 -!- manantial [~tecnecio@unaffiliated/manantial] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:19 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 02:24 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:30 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 02:55 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 03:04 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:06 -!- MaxSan [~four@46.19.137.116] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:24 < x000> dude 03:24 < x000> this is exactly my point 03:24 < x000> this is the functionality behind "sharding" feature of ethereum 03:25 < x000> well almost.. 03:26 < x000> except you cannot say there will be nodes which have insight that others don't 03:26 < x000> just "nodes which have a little bit more insight than others" 03:26 < x000> that still gives a bit more power to some nodes ? 03:27 < x000> I thought verification worked in an array 03:27 < x000> of nodes, all nodes 03:28 < x000> so with sharding only X amount of nodes will verify the payments closest to that shard 03:28 < x000> and those nodes are called shards 03:29 < x000> sry Im just studying alternative blockchins 03:31 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 03:32 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@static-91-225-135-27.devs.futuro.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:35 -!- MaxSan [~four@46.19.137.116] has joined #lnd 03:36 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:38 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.110.166] has joined #lnd 03:48 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 03:55 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has joined #lnd 03:56 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has quit [Client Quit] 03:56 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:00 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has joined #lnd 04:01 -!- MaxSan [~four@46.19.137.116] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:08 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 04:20 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 04:21 < molz> roasbeef said many times you don't need to know *every* node or *every* channel, and you will never do 04:21 < molz> there are `private` channels that only the nodes connected to them get to know them 04:25 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:29 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.67.9.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 04:42 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.67.9.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:43 -!- slivera [slivera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/slivera] has joined #lnd 04:46 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 04:52 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:53 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has joined #lnd 04:59 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 05:00 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 05:04 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 05:05 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:11 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 05:11 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 05:26 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:31 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has joined #lnd 05:31 < waxwing> is `make lint` supposed to produce no errors on current master? 05:34 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has quit [Client Quit] 05:35 -!- jchia_1 [~jchia@58.32.39.123] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:39 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has joined #lnd 05:44 < waxwing> i get `go fmt -s` errors and also package not found errors (same on release, checked just in case). 05:46 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 05:56 < lndbot> : I don’t think this is the right channel to discuss sharding. This is a channel to discuss lnd development and Bitcoin, Lightning and lnd don’t use sharding. There are also no planned proposals to use sharding. Bitcoin has global consensus: the blockchain and local consensus: offchain and second layer implementations like Lightning. Sharding is an attempt to maintain global consensus by only have a subset of the network verifying cer 05:56 < lndbot> transasctions/state. It is experimental and there are open questions as to whether a node can/should rely on subsets of the network without being able to verify all transactions/state themselves. Happy to chat in a DM but I doubt lnd devs on this channel are interested in this discussion. 05:57 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 06:04 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.110.166] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 < lndbot> @michaelfolkson he's on the IRC channel which IRC and slack DM/PM don't work, he can't pm you 06:08 < lndbot> For some reason I can’t send messages on the lnd IRC channel but can on other IRC channels. I’ll try to sort it out 06:09 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.161] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 06:09 < lndbot> @michaelfolkson are you on IRC? 06:10 < lndbot> Yup 06:10 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has joined #lnd 06:11 < lndbot> I get this error on the lnd channel though… Message(404): Cannot send to nick/channel 06:12 < lndbot> I will try reregistering to the channel. I have no problems on other IRC channels 06:12 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has left #lnd [] 06:13 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has joined #lnd 06:15 < waxwing> huh that's weird, i don't think #lnd requires nick registration 06:18 < lndbot> Very weird, I’m a little perplexed as it is only channel I have this problem with. I’ll try to sort it 06:21 < molz> yea not sure why, you're not in the ban/quiet lists either 06:31 < michaelfolkson> Testing 06:31 < michaelfolkson> Ok cool, think that has sorted it. 06:44 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 07:13 -!- qprime [~irc@gateway/tor-sasl/qprime] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14 -!- qprime [~irc@gateway/tor-sasl/qprime] has joined #lnd 07:14 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 07:37 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@62.60.61.162] has quit [Quit: Sleep mode] 07:49 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 < molz> queip, i just created a new lnd on my laptop with crappy internet, it took 21 min for lnd to be "synced_to_chain": true, 08:01 < molz> (testnet) 08:05 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@178.255.154.107] has joined #lnd 08:12 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:25 -!- slivera [slivera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/slivera] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:31 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 08:39 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Quit: see ya] 08:40 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lnd 08:42 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:43 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 08:52 < waxwing> chuckle https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnrpc/signrpc/signer.proto#L55-L56 09:04 < lndbot> bitconner: it seems to me the only point of sending the duplicate settle is to trigger `ackSettleFail` since it won't happen when the incoming link commits the settle. It then seems a little wasteful to send in batch all of these settle packets to the switch whose only purpose is to call `ackSettleFail`. But maybe this is the desired behavior in the switch, to de-dup the packets and ack them. It is possible that they don't get acked on the first try 09:04 < lndbot> user must wait until restart to have them get acked 09:05 < lndbot> eh, not user, the link has to restart I mean 09:08 < lndbot> So it seems that the issue is actually quite simple - something like `go l.forwardBatch(settlePacket)` with proper circuit identifiers 09:09 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:12 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has joined #lnd 09:15 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 09:28 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:02 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:06 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:07 -!- sh_smith [~sh_smith@cpe-76-174-26-91.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lnd 10:20 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 10:20 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:29 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 10:34 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:49 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@dsl-154-81.bl26.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:51 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 11:21 -!- schmidty__ [sid297174@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jhpclfhdqdhsufrs] has joined #lnd 11:22 -!- schmidty__ [sid297174@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jhpclfhdqdhsufrs] has quit [Client Quit] 11:23 -!- schmidty [sid297174@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjzyivrdwxoeeacc] has joined #lnd 11:23 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@176.78.154.81] has joined #lnd 11:39 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 12:08 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@178.255.154.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:08 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 12:09 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:10 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 12:10 <@roasbeef> molz: with a full node? 12:12 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@178.255.154.107] has joined #lnd 12:14 < molz> roasbeef, yes 12:17 <@roasbeef> yeh it can be prety slow 12:17 <@roasbeef> with 0.7 it should be a few seconds instead 12:17 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:17 <@roasbeef> for a new full node 12:26 -!- sfhi [~sfhi@178.255.154.107] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 < molz> roasbeef, hm maybe it was my eyeball guessing last time, but i just started a new node and from looking at the log it took only about 12 min to sync 12:32 < molz> 2019-05-24 15:09:45.621 [INF] LTND: Active chain: Bitcoin (network=testnet) 12:32 < molz> 2019-05-24 15:21:43.533 [INF] LTND: Chain backend is fully synced (end_height=1518269)! 12:40 -!- jrick [~jrick@unaffiliated/jrick] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:44 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lnd 12:46 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 12:51 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:52 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 13:06 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-5-173-65-176.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 13:06 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@2a00:23c5:be04:e501:15c0:9b9b:7c2d:da2] has joined #lnd 13:08 -!- pioklo [Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:11 -!- michaelfolkson [~textual@2a00:23c5:be04:e501:15c0:9b9b:7c2d:da2] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:13 -!- jrick [~jrick@unaffiliated/jrick] has joined #lnd 13:13 -!- Pioklo_ [~Pioklo@user-5-173-65-176.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:15 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:16 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lnd 13:17 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-5-173-56-163.play-internet.pl] has joined #lnd 13:44 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:46 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 14:46 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:51 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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We would go to chain for the outgoing link 16:41 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@user-5-173-56-163.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:43 < lndbot> Then the circuit map would show the link as closed because of the pipelined settle. Then, iiuc, a resolution msg that comes in would not know where to be routed because `ErrCircuitClosing` would be triggered 16:43 < lndbot> Although there may be things that I'm not seeing here as I didn't write the code heh 16:44 < bitconner> if it gets ErrCircuitClosing then the htlc has already been delivered/queued to the incoming link and it gets delivered when it comes back online 16:45 < lndbot> Hm ok I'm overthinking this, maybe need to look at the code some more 16:45 < lndbot> thanks, ill look at the ticker code 16:47 < bitconner> no these are good q's. if we get ErrCircuitClosing then pipelined settle went through and ended up in the incoming link's downstream mailbox. if the link is online, then it has the settle. if it isn't the mailbox gets replayed to it every time the links starts up 16:48 < lndbot> Gotcha that makes sense, I still need to read more about the fwdpkg's and the mailorchestrator 16:48 < lndbot> The htlcswitch + contractcourt packages are by far the most intimidating 16:52 < bitconner> indeed, many nuanced interactions to be aware of :) 16:54 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 16:54 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 16:59 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:01 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 17:02 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:03 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 17:07 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:21 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 17:23 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:33 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 17:33 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 17:34 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:37 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:39 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 17:45 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 17:47 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #lnd 17:48 -!- marijnfs [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:49 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 17:53 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 17:58 -!- marijnfs_ [~marijnfs@x5f725c8d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:05 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:06 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:21 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@176.78.154.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:23 -!- Kostenko [~Kostenko@176.78.154.81] has joined #lnd 18:24 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 18:28 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:38 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:41 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 -!- ddustin_ [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:41 -!- ddustin_ [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:41 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 18:54 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 19:06 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:12 < Asara> what does thsi imply: TemporaryChannelFailure(update=(*lnwire.ChannelUpdate? 19:12 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:15 <@roasbeef> edge rejected that HTLC 19:18 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 19:20 < Asara> edge? 19:20 <@roasbeef> a channel 19:20 < Asara> hm. what can I do to get this payment to go through? 19:21 < lndbot> Try a different channel? 19:23 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 19:23 < Asara> hm all I did was: lncli sendpayment --pay_req=PAYMENT_REQ 19:23 < lndbot> How did you select your peers? 19:24 < Asara> er.... automatically? 19:24 < Asara> :/ 19:25 < lndbot> Are you using an app or lnd directly? 19:25 < Asara> lnd directly 19:26 < lndbot> Is this on mainnet or testnet? 19:26 < Asara> mainnet 19:26 < Asara> lncli version 0.6.1-beta commit=v0.6.1-beta 19:26 < lndbot> I wouldn’t use lnd autopilot on mainnet 19:26 < lndbot> What peers did it connect you to? 19:26 < Asara> Bitcoin Core RPC client version v0.18.0 19:27 < lndbot> Also, I would use Bitcoin Core 0.17.1 or 0.17.0 19:27 <@roasbeef> you have a single channel? 19:27 < Asara> i have 5 open channels right now via autopilot 19:27 < Asara> each of htem has more than enough to pay the payment 19:33 < Asara> https://1ml.com/node/0214b1f6b48998b9eb19d8a756af39a027202cecfe608450109465bbccf3bb74ed 19:33 < Asara> here is my node 19:33 < Asara> if that helps 19:33 <@roasbeef> Asara: if the destination doesn't have enough to recv in their channels, then the payment won't go through for example 19:33 < Asara> the recv is https://www.excellion.com... 19:33 * Asara just wants a hat lol 19:33 < lndbot> Can you paste the payreq? 19:33 < lndbot> The issue may be on the other side 19:35 < Asara> lnbc3475465600p1pww3x6epp57tls2ta7xz3vglj654effu3f4yrmz57gnja4tj4tkc3d2vl87thsdxgg4uxxetvd35k7m36yqersgz42dzzqen0wgs9kwn9dew4yetrddkx2umnypyxzapqgfkxzcmttva856za2fjkx6mvv4ehxg89hz77ttvsyr5mhy0g3xe9kwjt2fw4yetrddkx2umnypyxzapqgfkxzcmttvax5c2a2fjkx6mvv4ehxgzgv96zqsnvv93kkke6t5s8sgp3xqyjw5qcqp2rzjqvppch6l2uezws8yae5nv3f2m5vacl48enusvd0e2yv6hq4x9t3xszyasqqqvrgqqyqqqqlgqqqp8zqqpswdp4dked6zpzgn3kxnqsv0qxv030nh5rt9nkj 19:35 < Asara> 848malsrx68e8cpmgyahpvnpqkj3j2y852rujlklqx5ljpcdvju7vumecka9eeyfsspu89jaz 19:35 < lndbot> I also have trouble paying it 19:36 < lndbot> The store operator may lack inbound liquidity 19:36 < Asara> hm... :/. I'll reach out to them. 19:36 < Asara> Thanks! 19:38 < lndbot> I’ll open a channel to them 19:39 < lndbot> I actually have a direct channel already with enough liquidity but your pathfinding probably can’t find my node 19:39 < lndbot> lnd has some in-dev upgrades that will help find liquidity if it is scarce 19:40 < Asara> running mt node behind tor shouldn't effect this right? 19:40 < lndbot> Yes it will 19:41 < Asara> :/ 19:42 < lndbot> Should also be addressed with some in-dev stuff 19:49 < Asara> is there anywhere i can follow along with that? 19:51 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:51 < lndbot> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/2802 https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/2973 19:51 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 19:54 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@118-92-86-182.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #lnd 19:55 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:03 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 20:05 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:12 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 20:13 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 20:17 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:18 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:21 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@118-92-86-182.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:21 < Asara> :thumbs-up: thanks a ton alexbosworth 20:22 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@118-92-86-182.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has joined #lnd 20:27 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@118-92-86-182.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:29 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@118.149.153.174] has joined #lnd 20:36 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 20:36 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 20:50 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:53 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 20:53 -!- spaced0ut [~spaced0ut@unaffiliated/spaced0ut] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:54 <@roasbeef> someone gimmie an invoice....for science 20:56 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56 < lndbot> `lnbc550n1pww309epp5409gkh7hdjx898vgfck6mts2tcfwm98d3nvyty842qeeclgknpfsdzq2pshjmt9de6zqen0wgsr2dfqwp5hsetvwvsxzapqwdshgmmndp5hxtnsd3skxefwxqzjccqp2rzjqtspxelp67qc5l56p6999wkatsexzhs826xmupyhk6j8lxl038t27z9tsqqqgpgqqqqqqqlgqqqqqzsqpc0e20wegdekv90c3t7f0scr6vdydmmtcm5qq6vua9cvscv3s4uzckwuynjtxc3e925le6ynds6pecp6dsrexd5w5thcusvlvul6t7jhqqsnnuev` 20:56 -!- scoop_ [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 21:06 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 21:10 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:11 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #lnd 21:16 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 21:56 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has joined #lnd 22:36 -!- scoop_ [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 22:38 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:38 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 22:46 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 22:50 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:54 -!- scoop [~scoop@205.178.77.52] has joined #lnd 23:19 -!- ccdle12 [~ccdle12@n218103251046.netvigator.com] has joined #lnd 23:42 -!- x000 [~x000@unaffiliated/x000] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]