--- Day changed Sun Aug 11 2019 00:05 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 00:54 -!- Adam40 [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 00:55 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:56 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has joined #lnd 00:57 -!- Adam40 [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:01 -!- Jax [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:01 -!- Jax [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has left #lnd [] 01:02 -!- kakaka [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:06 -!- kakaka [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15 -!- alec [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:15 -!- alec is now known as Guest26903 01:21 -!- Guest26903 [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.5] 01:31 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:32 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has left #lnd [] 01:34 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 01:36 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:41 -!- MaxSan [~four@82.102.23.131] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:43 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.5] 01:44 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:49 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52 -!- MaxSan [~four@185.156.175.171] has joined #lnd 01:57 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 01:57 < foolmeTwice> Hello 01:58 < foolmeTwice> I need some help debugging my node 02:11 < foolmeTwice> The problem is, my node Caffeine https://1ml.com/node/022d509049e143b1c5fc5383210acb97a3e5a4b0e0d31dd4c920eee92a4aacd312 02:11 < foolmeTwice> is online since forever but it is not processing any transcation 02:11 < foolmeTwice> it has inbound 02:12 < foolmeTwice> the tor service looks good 02:12 < foolmeTwice> the variables also 02:12 < foolmeTwice> I cannot figure out what is the problem 02:12 < foolmeTwice> I just want to be sure that the network can use my node, that it is accessible. 02:12 < foolmeTwice> Any clue? 02:19 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:20 -!- alec [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 02:20 -!- alec is now known as Guest3794 02:22 -!- foolmeTwice47 [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 02:23 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:25 -!- Guest3794 [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:27 -!- foolmeTwice47 [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:29 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 02:29 < foolmeTwice> ... 02:31 -!- foolmeTwice [~alec@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has left #lnd [] 02:32 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 02:32 < foolmeTwice> Do you guys read me? 02:36 < molz> probably none of your remote peers have spent any money and neither their peers 02:36 < molz> and have you spent any money? 02:36 < molz> if nobody wants to buy anything, money doesn't move by itself 02:50 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:56 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 02:57 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Client Quit] 02:58 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 02:58 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Client Quit] 02:59 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 03:03 < foolmeTwice> I thought the nodes were going to be use to pass transactions anyway, I don't need to spend them. I do have inbound capacity 03:04 < foolmeTwice> I want to be sure my node is able to rout payments around. So far nothing was routed. 03:13 < molz> how do you have inbound capacity? from other nodes that open channels to your node? 03:13 < foolmeTwice> Yes, I have used loop out to get it 03:14 < foolmeTwice> this is my node. https://1ml.com/node/022d509049e143b1c5fc5383210acb97a3e5a4b0e0d31dd4c920eee92a4aacd312 03:14 < molz> i don't need to see it 03:15 < foolmeTwice> you can see my channels and how they are financed 03:15 < molz> so you don't have users who want to spend their money to connect to your node? 03:15 < molz> that's not the point, you need to understand how routing works 03:16 < foolmeTwice> I thought my node would have been picked to route some payments soon or later 03:16 < molz> nope 03:16 < foolmeTwice> then I didn't get how routing works 03:17 < Veggen> well. If you are a detour on the way to the destination, you're not really going to be used much. 03:18 < Veggen> my nodes sees period with no routing fees, and periods where the liquidity elsewhere is probably low, and suddently I have 100 tx per day over a few days. 03:18 < Veggen> eh, my node. 03:19 < foolmeTwice> I have understood that if Alice wants to pay Bob, the BTC will be "moved" channel by channel until Bob received, and that the routing algorithm would make the route for Alice. Finally, that my node would be part of some of the routes. 03:23 < foolmeTwice> And after like 6 months that my node is online I would have expect it to route at least one transaction. 03:24 < foolmeTwice> IF not, then I need some extra info on how to properly connect my node to the network, because like this it's just a waste. I want to help the network, not just stay in standby forever. 03:25 < molz> get on testnet with a few nodes and find out 03:26 < foolmeTwice> Why would it be different, I would simply change the lnd.conf to use testnet instead of mainnet 03:26 < foolmeTwice> ? 03:28 < Veggen> no, you need a new node. 03:28 < Veggen> on testnet, you can afford to fool around much more, learn stuff. create more nodes. etc. 03:28 < Veggen> because coins there are worthless. 03:35 < Veggen> I can see that whenever I try to construct a route toh you with 400000 satoshi or more, it becomes expensive. 03:37 < Veggen> there's a lot of nodes that takes barely no fees, but the one with significant liquidity to you have decided he'll want fees. 03:38 < foolmeTwice> I have let autopilot do the job... 03:38 < Veggen> autopilot isn't *that* smart, yet. 03:39 < foolmeTwice> so, shall I just disconnect the expensive nodes and connect to others? 03:40 < Veggen> depending if you need that liquidity elsewhere, they don't do all that much harm. 03:41 < foolmeTwice> I just want my node to be used. As I said, it's disappointing not having it routing anything since months. I want to understand how it can be fixed. 03:47 -!- Guest91415 [sid297174@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prlvmvzrudofrenx] has quit [Changing host] 03:47 -!- Guest91415 [sid297174@unaffiliated/schmidty] has joined #lnd 03:47 -!- Guest91415 [sid297174@unaffiliated/schmidty] has quit [Changing host] 03:47 -!- Guest91415 [sid297174@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-prlvmvzrudofrenx] has joined #lnd 03:48 -!- Guest91415 is now known as schmidty 04:00 < Veggen> mmmf, need to set up tor :) 04:00 < foolmeTwice> ? it is set up correctly I believe 04:02 < Veggen> *I* need to set up tor :) 04:03 < foolmeTwice> Ooops.. ok. Need help for that? 04:03 < Veggen> probably not, just lazy :) 04:16 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 04:20 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:26 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 04:29 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:31 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 04:40 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:03 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:04 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixucufbknewttpny] has joined #lnd 08:10 -!- Jimi [8dd9cb97@141.217.203.151] has joined #lnd 08:19 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:20 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lnd 08:43 -!- jpe [~jpe@185.216.35.254] has joined #lnd 09:09 -!- lnostdal [~lnostdal@213.239.101.226] has quit [Quit: "Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism." -- Ayn Rand] 09:11 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:12 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 09:16 -!- jpe [~jpe@185.216.35.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:14 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:15 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 10:15 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has joined #lnd 10:21 -!- ddustin [~ddustin@unaffiliated/ddustin] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:35 -!- EvaristeGalois [~Surd@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has left #lnd ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."] 10:42 -!- EvaristeGalois [~Surd@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 10:49 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 10:52 < lndbot> Routing requires some finesse 10:53 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@118-40.echostar.pl] has joined #lnd 11:11 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixucufbknewttpny] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:22 < lndbot> If you just want to route more period I would just create capitalized, balanced channels with lots of nodes and set your fees and cltv deltas super low 11:46 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lnd 11:47 -!- spoke0__ [~spoke0@92.116.88.140] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:47 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.88.140] has joined #lnd 11:52 -!- spoke0 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