--- Day changed Thu Aug 15 2019 00:04 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has joined #lnd 00:07 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has joined #lnd 00:19 -!- douglas__ [~douglas@c-73-253-27-42.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lnd 00:20 -!- pioklo [~Pioklo@ip-91.246.70.194.skyware.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:22 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-253-27-42.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:25 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:25 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has joined #lnd 00:26 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 00:26 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has joined #lnd 00:27 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #lnd 00:32 -!- foolmeTwice [5451eab9@ip5451eab9.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:44 < molz> alexbosworth nope he's gone 00:47 < molz> that was all hogwash about "misleading guides and post I have found online..." he couldn't provide any links so he left 01:06 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 01:10 -!- EvaristeGalois [~Surd@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has joined #lnd 01:24 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-55-184-vdsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 01:24 < e4xit> " It’s more difficult to route as a Tor node because regular non-Tor nodes can’t connect to you" -- is this true for routing though? or only for getting new (random) channels from unknown peers. If I have a Tor node with plenty of in and outbound channels, there is no difference to routing just because Tor, right? 01:24 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:e84d:9fde:8781:261c] has joined #lnd 01:25 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@dslb-002-204-250-186.002.204.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 01:27 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:e84d:9fde:8781:261c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:28 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@dslb-002-204-250-186.002.204.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #lnd 01:30 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:53 < molz> i don't think that's what alex meant 01:54 -!- EvaristeGalois [~Surd@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 01:56 < molz> it's more like a case that for example, if you're a tor node and you have a channel with bitrefill.. i'm looking at the route i think hm maybe you can route my payments for me, but i can't open a channel to you because im a 'non-tor node' 02:51 -!- slivera [slivera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/slivera] has joined #lnd 03:43 -!- Styil [Styil@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/styil] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:50 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has joined #lnd 04:01 -!- melvin_ [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:02 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 04:22 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 04:32 -!- libertyprime [~libertypr@101.98.42.91] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:59 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:01 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-190.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lnd 05:20 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@dslb-002-204-250-186.002.204.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:20 -!- spoke0_ [~spoke0@dslb-002-204-250-186.002.204.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #lnd 06:11 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-suyldvjepiomikod] has joined #lnd 07:03 -!- slivera [slivera@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/slivera] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:47 -!- spoke0_ [~spoke0@dslb-002-204-250-186.002.204.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:55 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:07 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08 -!- rh0nj [~rh0nj@88.99.167.175] has joined #lnd 09:08 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.103.222] has joined #lnd 10:25 < lndbot> It only makes a difference for acquiring inbound liquidity 10:54 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 11:49 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@hst-227-49.splius.lt] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:51 -!- gethh [uid264798@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-suyldvjepiomikod] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:01 -!- greypw [~greypw@unaffiliated/greypw] 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[~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lnd 12:52 -!- mauz555 [~mauz555@2a01:e35:8ab1:dea0:e84d:9fde:8781:261c] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:16 -!- greypw [~greypw@unaffiliated/greypw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:17 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.103.222] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:20 -!- greypw [~greypw@unaffiliated/greypw] has joined #lnd 13:20 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.103.222] has joined #lnd 13:25 -!- spoke0 [~spoke0@92.116.103.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:32 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #lnd 13:44 -!- niceplace [~nplace@185.128.25.132] has joined #lnd 13:46 < molz> from his convo it seemed he had no inbound channels 13:46 < molz> only kept saying "but i looped out" lulz 13:47 < lndbot> Loop Out will give you inbound liquidity 13:47 < lndbot> I actually tried paying through his node and it worked 13:47 < lndbot> It took me a min to setup the route and then he left before I finished 13:55 < molz> but a normie like me won't bother to figure out how to set up a route like that 13:56 < lndbot> He just wanted to test to see if he could possibly route 13:56 < lndbot> IMO the issue he had was peer selection and capital underallocation, not a channel imbalance 13:57 < molz> of course he could if he had some inbound channels from *not just anyone, but someone or their peers who would spend money on lightning* 13:57 < molz> if every joe and their friends only set up nodes to "route" and nobody wants to spend money... we would have a serious problem 13:59 < lndbot> Unless they’re all rebalancing like crazy 14:07 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 14:11 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:14 -!- cubo-cube [~quassel@unaffiliated/evaristegalois] has joined #lnd 14:16 -!- cubo-cube 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