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But some wallets (AFAIK so far only Phoenix wallet offers this) open channels to you once you receive money. So it does work for users that don't have any bitcoin though it's not fully trustless anymore (because with Phoenix you can only have channels opened by the wallet developer's server and not with any node on the network). 08:12 -!- arowser_ [~arowser1@192.69.88.248] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:12 -!- arowser_ [~arowser1@192.69.88.248] has joined #lnd 08:39 < melande> gugger: thanks a lot for you replies 08:40 < melande> Talkless: I asked if addresses generated with "lncli newaddress" will stay forever. And I asked if it's possible to receive lightning payments without owning any bitcoin beforehand 08:41 < Talkless> melande: for address reuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3urPFkx8g 08:47 < melande> I know reusing addresses is bad. I asked it because I ran the command about a dozen times, but I still kinda really wanted to use the very first address that was listed 08:58 < mol> i don't think there's any 'first address' or in that order, and it's not important to have a 'first address' 08:59 < lndbot> yeah, address reuse only refers to receiving funds to the same address more than once. but when generating multiple addresses it doesn't matter which one you actually publish/use 09:00 < mol> "Also, is there a way to see all addresses that have been generated at some point?" If addresses are generated but not used, then no 09:04 < Talkless> mol: that's kinda strange, "newaddress" maybe should not give new address unless old one was not yet used? 09:10 -!- wed [~wed@HSI-KBW-109-192-072-244.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in] 09:12 -!- wed [~wed@HSI-KBW-109-192-072-244.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lnd 09:18 < mol> Talkless, what do you mean? 09:18 < Talkless> what's the point to show new and new address if old is not ever used? 09:19 < Talkless> in Electrum for example it will suggest you first unused address when you open "receive" tab 09:19 < mol> but this isn't electrum 09:19 < mol> it's safer to get a new address every time you need one 09:36 -!- Pada [4d1b33cf@207.51.27.77.dynamic.reverse-mundo-r.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09 -!- ddustin_ is now known as ddustin 10:36 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@unaffiliated/dongcarl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:36 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