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03:58 < queip> roasbeef: fyi I think many users now are kind of scared, considering the security bug (not checking signatures)
03:58 < queip> probably should do independant security audit at some point, and then announce it loudly
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10:32 <@roasbeef> queip: huh? 
10:33 <@roasbeef> oh the CVE? 
10:33 <@roasbeef> sigs were chceked, it was an encoding issue 
11:17 < queip> roasbeef: that bug like over half-year ago when signatures were not checked in some place in basically all LN implementations
11:18 < queip> if this was not done yet, then it would be great to get a very stable release of some LN software and have it as a whole verified. That would be cool
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12:06 <@roasbeef> queip: you mean the fake channel one? 
12:06 < queip> roasbeef: could be. the one that was in all implementations and was serious
12:07 < queip> as an user, I feel like it would be nice if at some point developers come out and say: ok this version XYZ is reaaaly well tested, also audited externally. there should be no money-losing bugs, it's safe to use it for a bit bigger funds too
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12:27 < lnd-bot> [lnd] guggero opened pull request #4744: discovery: allow DNS seeds to be overwritten (master...dns-seed-config) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4744
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12:53 <@roasbeef> queip: one of the things re external audits, is that they'll usually not catch stuff liek what the domain experts have in the past 
12:53 <@roasbeef> since there're very subtle interactions that require deep knowledge of the protocol 
12:53 <@roasbeef> our approach has always been do do thing gradually, which is why there're even still limits on stuff like channel sizes now even if you enable wumbo 
12:54 <@roasbeef> imo external audits are mostly a thing for external observers to have a "stamp" of approval 
12:54 <@roasbeef> but ofc just because an audit was done, doesn't mean there're no bugs, you can never really claim that 
12:54 <@roasbeef> we've been working in the backgruond on our own internal audit, and we'll also have our bug bounty program live by the EOY 
12:59 < queip> roasbeef: what about the idea to recommend long default channel closing times, the time you have to unilaterally close on blockchain in case if someone is not cooperative or attacks you, perhaps 7 days
12:59 <@roasbeef> if a channel is above .16, it default to 2016 blocks in the software 
12:59 <@roasbeef> in terms of the csv delay 
12:59 < queip> to remove the opinion that totally filled mempool for few days = risking funds
12:59 < queip> ah ok
12:59 < queip> and the short term for small channels?
12:59 <@roasbeef> 0.12 will also let ppl set longer values on a per-channel basis as well 
13:01 < queip> if I would operate LND node it would be cool to set the minimum CSV (both offerend and accepted) to some time I choose (I guess 2016 too, for all channel sizes) once in a configuration
13:01 <@roasbeef> yep that's a setting 
13:01 <@roasbeef> perhaps could be documented a bit better 
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17:25 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 38c74f6 Matheus Degiovani: signal: do not trap SIGABRT
17:25 < lnd-bot> lnd/master cf5c670 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #4627 from matheusdtech/sigabrt
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17:30 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef merged pull request #4674: Update C# gRPC documentation (master...master) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4674
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17:30 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 1 commit to master: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/compare/cf5c670a2bf8...fd544e00ee5a
17:30 < lnd-bot> lnd/master fd544e0 Daniel Babbev: docs: update C# documentation
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17:30 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef merged pull request #4675: htlcswitch,rpc: expose onion blob for intercepts (master...sphinx_interceptor) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4675
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17:30 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/compare/fd544e00ee5a...21b9f24d288b
17:30 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 033c5b7 Juan Pablo Civile: htlcswitch,rpc: expose onion blob for intercepts
17:30 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 21b9f24 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #4675 from champo/sphinx_interceptor
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17:35 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef merged pull request #4701: multi: remove experimential build flag for assumechanvalid (master...4581-removeexperimential) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4701
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17:35 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/compare/21b9f24d288b...297c6141265a
17:35 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 325deb3 carla: sample-conf: add assumechanvalid to sample conf
17:35 < lnd-bot> lnd/master c92b030 carla: multi: remove experimential build flag for assumechanvalid
17:35 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 297c614 Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #4701 from carlaKC/4581-removeexperimential
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17:35 < lnd-bot> [lnd] Roasbeef merged pull request #4703: btcwallet: return chain best timestamp while backend is syncing (master...is-synced-timestamp-inconsistency) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/4703
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17:35 < lnd-bot> lnd/master 1ad0dba Wilmer Paulino: btcwallet: return chain best timestamp while backend is syncing
17:35 < lnd-bot> lnd/master fbb430a Olaoluwa Osuntokun: Merge pull request #4703 from wpaulino/is-synced-timestamp-inconsistency
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