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02:45 < echelon> how much can you make in fees? will it cover the the cost of closing a channel?
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06:46 < queip> we need a channel for lightning
06:46 < queip> there are so many small wallets :/
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07:08 < mol> you're in a channel for lightning
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07:31 < queip> sent money from BLW to Phoenix wallet. BLW says payment failed.   Phoenix says it recieved the money. what now
07:31 < queip> how to we fix LN
07:32 < mol> those wallets have their own chat platforms, you can ask them there
07:34 < queip> would be better to have all devels in one
07:34 < mol> no
07:35 < queip> yes
07:35 < queip> because almost every bug happening for users in LN will be a bug across 2 (or more) implementations
07:36 < queip> always when I see a bug, I feel the lack of such platform where users and devels across platforms can debug problems that happen somewhere in between them
07:36 < mol> that's a different issue than a specific wallet problem
07:36 < queip> mol: well in this case, is it bug in BLW or phoenix?  tbh desu the sender looks more guilty, but still would be good to debug from both ends
07:38 < mol> you have a better chance to get a reply on their chat platform
07:38 < mol> just because someone is a lnd dev doesn't mean he/she has to know everything about other clients
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08:31 < queip> mol: well that was my initial question: we need a lightning channel, to debug and help in face of fragmentation
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08:41 < mol> fragmentation of what?
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10:17 < queip> mol_: it's easier to get support for bitcoin imo, probably because bitcoin core + electrum cover large user base. with LN wallets so far people I know have different ones
10:17 < queip> (for bitcoin onchain wallets)
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11:08 <@roasbeef> queip: I'd make an issue w/ BLW, fwiw i'm not sure how actively developed it is these days, a few months ago the repo was "archived" 
11:10 < queip> roasbeef: when lnd mobile?  I can run full node, electrum X, lnd, whatever on home PC with tor
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15:03 <@roasbeef> queip: it's already here 
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