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01:07 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-05-22_bryan-with-ragsdale.png
01:07 < kanzure> that's the guy that was lecturing for http://heybryan.org/school/Biology/notes/output.html
01:07  * kanzure just got back from an awards ceremony with the guy
01:37 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/webalizer/usage_200805.html
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07:54 < fenn> g'day mate
07:55 < fenn> just hit "send" to gershenfeld.. *frump*
08:02 < fenn> btw no, i didn't "make the torus knot using the system" since there is no system in existence
08:08 < kanzure> fenn: you sent the email to gershenfeld?
08:08 < kanzure> or are you telling me to?
08:09 < kanzure> http://www.google.com/Top/Science/Events/Conferences/
08:11 < fenn> i just did. damned english
08:12 < kanzure> fenn: did you explain it all?
08:13 < fenn> no, basically i threw myself begging at his feet
08:13 < kanzure> neat
08:14 < fenn> ok maybe not quite that bad
08:14 < fenn> but i didnt explain skdb
08:15 < fenn> just "i am working on similar things, here's some pictures:"
08:20 < fenn> http://img.cba.mit.edu/browse/070630_norway_bySmari/DSC03443.jpg
08:20 < fenn> that's carl scheffler, not smari
08:21 < fenn> note the image on the laptop
08:22 < fenn> http://img.cba.mit.edu/browse/070927_gadgetoff2007/IMG_2666.jpg
08:22 < fenn> good with ketchup
08:25 < kanzure> heh :)
08:25 < kanzure> I was browsing through gatech.edu and found a manufacturing uh, division, lab or something
08:25 < kanzure> and they organize the industrial conferences it seems
08:25 < kanzure> they have a new format, SMPFF or something, but it doesn't look all that useful
08:26 < kanzure> it's an object-oriented method of doing specs for manufacturing objects or something
08:26 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Exoskeleton has some notes [in the totally wrong place :-)]
08:26 < kanzure> fenn: did you see the pics? http://heybryan.org/ has a new front-page-head-photo, and then I dumped a link some time last night to the full photo
08:26 < fenn> sheet metal part forming format?
08:26 < fenn> good, that's a nice photo
08:27 < fenn> i ran across the exoskeleton vid a couple days ago too (eris be praised!)
08:27 < kanzure> the tether is retarded
08:27 < kanzure> but might just be for demoing
08:27 < kanzure> maybe they have the battery problem solved :)
08:27 < fenn> eh? of course it's for demo
08:28 < fenn> no, they probably just dont want some goddamn chainsaw engine running during the interview
08:28 < fenn> bleex is noisy as hell
08:29 < kanzure> oh, and http://heybryan.org/webalizer/ 
08:29 < kanzure> 200k-hits/mo
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08:30 < kanzure> fenn: heh, I'm #13 for queries on Google over '    "the deepest commitment, the most serious mind"  '
08:30 < kanzure> that's not bad :)
08:31  * kanzure needs to run off to school
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18:06 < kanzure> Hey.
18:16 < kramer3d> hello
18:25 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Sustained_attention#2008-05-23:_Athymhormic_syndrome <-- "mental blankness" and lack of motivation via removal of basal ganglia. 
19:32 < kanzure> VOLSABOX: small fabber that makes secondary-fabbers that process asteroid/moon rock into surface-area that can be assembled into either some giant mirroring system, or a giant space-based solar power satellite (energy beaming via microwaves (2.4 GHz according to CFR))
19:32 < kanzure> the surface area is needed to harvest the output of the sun
19:34 < kanzure> Hm. I had an idea earlier today.
19:35 < kanzure> one of the reasons why solar cells don't capture all of the spectrums of photons, I hear, is mostly because there's not enough 'photon holes' so there's a lot that's missed
19:36 < kanzure> so what if we could focus solar photons into very fine, sub-mm radius, beams of light, and then try to capture all of the photons by using piezos to specifically target molecules with electrons waiting to get the energy?
19:37 < kanzure> or something like that
19:37 < kanzure> the idea is to "hit the ball into the bucket"
19:37 < kanzure> the ball is the photon
19:37 < kanzure> bucket is the electron or molecule or maybe even quantum dot (not sure)
19:37 < kramer3d> focus like with a V shaped solar panel?
19:38 < kramer3d> ah ive to go
19:38 < kramer3d> we shall talk when i get back :)
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19:54 < kanzure> fenn: looks like I have a lot of content to spider from Alex Weirr
19:54 < kanzure> http://fabuntu.org/
19:54 < kanzure> http://fabfoundation.org/
19:54 < kanzure> http://fablab.jp/
20:34  * kanzure frowns at the "151 GB used space" indicator on the data server
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22:20 < kanzure> Hi shogunx.
22:20 < shogunx> indeed kanzure
22:20 < kanzure> fenn: here's your sleekfreak
22:20 < shogunx> heh
22:20 < kanzure> we've been discussing in #solarnet-dev on gnuveau.org and trying to synch some good ideas together
22:20 < shogunx> howdy fenn.  guilty as charged.
22:21 < kanzure> fenn might be dead at the moment, so we'll see
22:22 < fenn> still kickin
22:22 < kanzure> what a shame.
22:22  * fenn twitches uncontrollably
22:24 < shogunx> no need to twitch on my account.
22:25 < fenn> re: photon catcher, i saw a gold (nanoparticle?) terahertz-frequency inductor that could be used for catching infrared light
22:25 < fenn> they had some new printing process that made it feasible for solar panels
22:25 < shogunx> using more of the spectrum for pv is a damn good idea.
22:27 < kanzure> fenn: "catching" IR photons?
22:27 < fenn> its like a radio antenna for light
22:28 < kanzure> I see; can it be a flat surface?
22:28 < fenn> it was on nextbigfuture.com but no googles
22:28 < kanzure> an antenna usually sucks since it's a small cylinder
22:28 < fenn> yeah they had a sheet of plastic covered in this nano-feature pattern
22:28 < kanzure> whereas the local star does massive photoproduction all over the place
22:28 < kanzure> ah
22:28 < kanzure> neat
22:28 < fenn> using soft lithography
22:28  * kanzure needs to find a ref
22:30 < fenn> hey google got some more buttons
22:30 < shogunx> ideally this could be made transparent to other frequencies, and could be used as a laminate for existing pv panels to increase amperage output.
22:30 < fenn> well, not really, it looked like gold aluminum foil
22:31 < fenn> but i think they said it could theoretically be 80% efficient, which is good enough for me
22:31 < shogunx> is there really more energy in IR than in the visible spectrum?
22:31 < fenn> yep
22:31 < fenn> on earth at least
22:32 < shogunx> 80% efficiency would be nice.
22:33 < fenn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Solar_Spectrum.png
22:35 < fenn> shogunx: could you explain the "free dsl over southeastern north america"?
22:36 < shogunx> i was explaining to a friend who was an engineer at bell how there was hole in their radius implementaion.
22:40 < shogunx> it essentially allowed infinite many logins on the same uid
22:44 < shogunx> why do you ask?
22:45 < fenn> it just seemed improbably
22:45 < fenn> i mean, your tracker is barely scraping along :)
22:46 < shogunx> not sure its even on, actually.
22:46 < shogunx> hmm.  apparently so.
22:47 < shogunx> that was many years ago.  sleekfreak will be 10 soon.
22:48 < shogunx> that 2 megabit circuit is often saturated.
22:51 < shogunx> i wonder if alex has a new version of that...
22:51 < shogunx> the cd3wd that is
22:51 < fenn> yes it's expanded to 16GB
22:52 < fenn> mostly due to non-ocr'd pdf files
22:53 < fenn> there's only so much you can do with dead-tree-format though
22:53 < fenn> so this is why we're working on skdb
22:54 < fenn> btw i see your webpage all the time from the ebooks, good work :)
22:55 < shogunx> thanks.  by my estimation i have had several hundred thousand college students eating a little better from that.
22:56 < kanzure> shogunx: http://heybryan.org/textbooks.html for cheap textbooks (purchasable)
22:57 < shogunx> ok i see.
22:57 < kanzure> I'm trying to figure out if I should post my digital textbook sources
22:57 < kanzure> if I'd link to you, that just makes you more of a target :)
22:57 < kanzure> for a while I was being targetted on some boards
22:57 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/docs/screwed.html (search for heybryan.org on the page)
22:58 < shogunx> so you guys want to turn all that data into indexable data.
22:58 < kanzure> sort of
22:58 < kanzure> it's more like "apt-get install <automobile>" ;-)
22:58 < kanzure> where automobile is just a specific implementation of some general manufacturing tools working together
22:59 < shogunx> i dig it.
22:59 < fenn> but realistically more like apt-get install wireless-router because they're much easier to make
23:00 < kanzure> I dunno, cars came before semiconductors
23:00  * fenn mumbles something about vacuum tubes
23:01  * kanzure mumbles something about how hard it is to inhale vigorously without mechanical pressure and explosive setups
23:01 < kanzure> by explosive I mean your pressure tanks and mechanical pistons etc.
23:02 < shogunx> so what ahppened, did someone make you take your books down?
23:02 < fenn> actually you can make a vacuum pump out of a rubber tube
23:03 < kanzure> shogunx: No, it's just that I'm on a residential connection, had zero bandwidth, etc.
23:03 < kanzure> fenn: hm? describe?
23:05 < shogunx> ahh.  yes.  2megabit up with burst to 5, no transfer cap.  1000's of people have ran wget across the whole site.
23:05 < kanzure> heh
23:05 < kanzure> I've had 6 sec ping lags to Google.
23:06 < kanzure> shogunx: maybe I'll run wget on your site soon too :)
23:06 < kanzure> or at least a scheduled job for it, so that I can avoid your waking hours 
23:07 < shogunx> i do not actually USE that machine.  it sits in a rack.  it has a dedicated circuit.  the only time it would annoy me is if the redundant circuit was down, and i had to route the rest of the network through sleekfreak.
23:07 < kanzure> ah, okay
23:07 < fenn> kanzure: basically a peristaltic pump, you get two 'ink brayers' and squeeze out the air, always keeping one brayer held on the tube
23:08 < kanzure> why haven't I seen any homemade vacuum tube computers up on the web ?
23:08 < fenn> because you need a lot of tubes
23:08 < kanzure> it was only within the last year that the diy vacuum tube stuff showed up on Slashdot
23:08 < kanzure> sure
23:08 < kanzure> but a small circuit, for example
23:08 < shogunx> lots and lots of tubes.
23:08 < kanzure> a flip flop :)
23:08 < fenn> and a lot of power to run them
23:08 < kanzure> shogunx: heh
23:08 < shogunx> you can make a pretty good sounding amplifier with them though.
23:09  * kanzure was looking into making his own stompbox a few years ago
23:09 < kanzure> I had this ridiculously flimsy circuitboard wired up to an amp and a guitar
23:09 < kanzure> a few resistors wired up too, didn't do much
23:10 < kanzure> how many vacuum tubes would it have taken to do anything?
23:10 < shogunx> the same number of transistors it would take:)
23:10 < fenn> only like 4
23:11 < fenn> http://www.tinkerhack.com/vac6.htm  <- silicone hose vacuum pump
23:12 < kanzure> thank you
23:12  * kanzure needs to go do a bookmarking session soon
23:12 < kanzure> it's been a while since I've done a bookmark dump into Opera's ADR file.
23:13 < kanzure> maybe I'll hack pidgin to autopopup upon new link, force me to bookmark it immediately
23:13 < kanzure> dunno about autosynching with the open proc of Opera though
23:26 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/scans/2008-05-23_2.png <-- got xsane and the epson scanner working again, so I'm uploading some of my more recent pencilings/pennings when not near a terminal.
23:27 < fenn> heh gonna need more resolution than that
23:30 < fenn> i've been doing some scanning too, not sure it's worth sharing though
23:30 < kanzure> mine's not really worth sharing either, since handwritten stuff sucks anyway
23:30 < kanzure> I do stuff like that all day on paper
23:30 < kanzure> so I have these unseemly, large stacks that I know are completely useless
23:31 < kanzure> can't just randomly pop out the laptop though, that'd get suspicous since I'm only using it for school work blah blah blah :)