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01:46 -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: Intro: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXKbzbeipmI http://diybio.org/ http://openwetware.org/ | diy bio toolkit: http://biohack.sf.net/ | Automated societal knowledge (put it to work): http://heybryan.org/exp.html | Channel wiki: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/ | F/OSS perspectives on Kurzweil: http://heybryan.org/fernhout/
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01:46 [ Biopunk ] [ fenn ] [ joshcryer] [ Phreedom] [ wrldpc] 
01:46 [ faceface] [ freer] [ percent_ ] [ procto  ] [ ybit  ] 
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09:36 < kanzure> Has there been anything new?
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23:31 < ybit> so who is everyone in here?
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23:38 < ybit> what up kanzure
23:38 < ybit> are you aware of bricklet?
23:39 < kanzure> Bricklet?
23:39 < kanzure> Sounds like a java applet.
23:39 < kanzure> No.
23:39 < ybit> bricklet.org
23:39 < ybit> i've checked out the source through svn + sourceforge
23:39 < ybit> it's neat
23:40 < kanzure> Ah, so I noticed they mention freebase, so I think they might have the right idea, if it integrates with obofoundry, sbml and expo, that'd be great.
23:40 < kanzure> Yes, it mentions CellML.
23:41 < ybit> it's a couple guys from diybio
23:41 < ybit> Mackenzie Cowell and Jason Morrison
23:41 < kanzure> Yes, I'm on the brickit standards team.
23:41 < kanzure> Without knowing it. :)
23:42 < ybit> :P
23:42 < kanzure> No, but seriously. http://biobricks.org/pipermail/standards_biobricks.org/
23:42 < ybit> reading the README.txt file shows that PRBB (prbb.org) have contributed to the project
23:42 < kanzure> I'm not sure I like university. Why are they making a class about Microsoft Excel to be mandatory?
23:43 < ybit> you should skip it
23:43 < kanzure> it's required :(
23:43 < ybit> there are tests you can take to skip such courses
23:43 < kanzure> Yeah, but then I'd have to go learn some stuff about Excel.
23:43 < kanzure> Why not use Open Office?
23:43 < kanzure> Or why not just write some real programs to do your calculations?
23:44 < kanzure> Setting up a mysql database takes less than a minute, and even less with SQLite or something less monstrous.
23:45 < kanzure> Also, it has me running around all the time doing absolutely nothing.
23:45 < kanzure> I haven't been able to get anything done in the past week, and I have lost so many trains of thought that it isn't funny any more. Now it's just sick.
23:49 < ybit> this chat channel has been dead without you in here :P
23:49 < ybit> srsly, no one responded to my question earlier: [22:31] <ybit> so who is everyone in here?
23:50 < kanzure> That's strange.
23:51 < kanzure> So, let's see.
23:51 < kanzure> fenn is http://fennetic.net/
23:51 < kanzure> nsh is a bot
23:51 < kanzure> percent_ is our magical access point for equipment
23:51 < kanzure> Phreedom is doing what we want to do, except for credit
23:51 < ybit> aha
23:51 < kanzure> Splicer runs http://biopunk.org/
23:51 < percent_> Wait, I am?
23:51 < kanzure> ybit just showed up :)
23:51 < kanzure> percent_: Aren't you? :)
23:51 < ybit> heh
23:52 < kanzure> facefaceface is our bioinformatics guy
23:52 < kanzure> freer I'm not sure about
23:52 < percent_> Depends on what you need :-)
23:52 < kanzure> procto also just showed up :)
23:52 < kanzure> wrldpc met me through the MAKE magazine article on us
23:53 < percent_> wait
23:53 < percent_> who wrote an article on us
23:53 < percent_> So what's this CellML?
23:53 < kanzure> CellML is a markup language for bioinformatics information
23:53 < percent_> Link to information
23:54 < kanzure> The idea is to use it with http://expo.sf.net/ and get it integrated
23:54 < kanzure> meh, probably http://cellml.org/
23:54 < kanzure> if not, try http://sbml.org/
23:54 < kanzure> And if you search for 'open synthetic biology toolkit' you'll see MAKE.
23:54 < ybit> well that was helpful, thanks for naming everyone :)
23:54 < kanzure> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/02/an_open_source_synthetic.html
23:54 < percent_> I also sell drugs and booze, if you're interested
23:55 < percent_> Should we speak FASTA, GFF, or CellML?
23:55 < kanzure> GFF?
23:55 < kanzure> http://cellml.org/
23:55 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CellML
23:55 < kanzure> http://www.cellml.org/examples/repository/ ;-)
23:56 < percent_> So what are we speaking, standardized, in our little biohacker world?
23:56 < kanzure> http://
23:56 < kanzure> www.physiome.org/jsim/models/cellml/
23:56 < kanzure> Well, this isn't exactly the right standardization that we are interested in. It's close, and it's going to be useful, but it's nothing about the physical instrumentation that we're going to be needing.
23:56 < percent_> You and I need to get together and organize. After I do this homework.
23:57 < kanzure> It's nice to have information formalized from the many data sets that various researchers are collecting and constructing, yes, but at the same time we need to be able to interface this with our own worlds that we have -- otherwise it's just the AI grounding problem all over again.
23:58 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/CHE_210 <-- Most pointless class, ever.
23:58 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/UT <-- list of all chemical engineering classes.