--- Day changed Thu Jul 10 2008
00:04 < kanzure> you know what, I bet 23andme would be willing to fund that
00:05 < kanzure> aha
00:05 < kanzure> it's in /home/bryan/cache/genomes/deCODEme_scan.scsv
00:05 < kanzure> erm
00:05 < kanzure> .csv
00:09 < kanzure> 31 MB. hm.
00:11 < kanzure> 'Where "Name" is the official symbol of the SNP taken from dbSNP (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov, and the Cambridge reference sequence, Public SNP source, dbSNP 128)'
00:11 < kanzure> http://www.snpedia.com/index.php?title=DeCODEme
00:13 < kanzure> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/projects/SNP/
00:14 < kanzure> http://demo.decodeme.com/genome_browser
00:16 < kanzure> yep
00:16 < kanzure> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=snp&cmd=search&term=rs4477212
00:16 < kanzure> that's from Jong Bahk
00:17 < kanzure> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi?mode=Info&id=9606
00:18 < kanzure> ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/snp/database/organism_data/human_9606
00:18 < kanzure> uh
02:42 < ybit> hmm, anyone want the neverness pdf?
02:42 < ybit> i just converted it after changing it to a readable font
02:42 < ybit> perhaps i should now
02:43 < ybit> guess anyone can do this themselves 
02:43 < ybit> i forget i'm not dealing with the people i typically have to work with
02:44 < ybit> but if you are lazy, then msg me :)
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03:20 < kanzure> ybit: uhm, on another note
03:20 < kanzure> the font that it displays in
03:20 < kanzure> is your default font
03:20 < kanzure> you can change this
03:21 < kanzure> depending on your browser it's probably very simply in the preferences
03:21 < kanzure> I like to read in Tmes New Roman
03:24 < ybit> Century Schoolbook L is what it was changed to
03:24  * ybit goes to bed
03:24 < ybit> 'night
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06:32 < kanzure> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1828931383490669655&q=blender+conference+2006 'At the Blender conference, Alberto Cardona discussed his methods for using Blender to reconstruct serial sections of Drosophila brains and annelid ganglia/connectives. I don't begin to understand the algorithms, but it seemed promising (I am also a neuroscientist). Google for videos of "Blender Conference 2006" to view his presentation.' 
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06:56 < kanzure> a brain in a blender doesn't sound good
06:56 < kanzure> but I should go email Alberto
06:58  * nsh smiles
06:59 < kanzure> hm, he mentions git
07:06 < kanzure> sadly he's carving out the microtubules by hand
07:06 < kanzure> so he goes through each layer and selects it by hand
07:06 < kanzure> and then builds this up into vertices/vectors, and then generates a 3D wireframe/mesh from that
07:06 < kanzure> sucks, but it sounds like he's been looking for something slightly more uh
07:06 < kanzure> practical.
07:08 < nsh> hmm
07:10 < kanzure> maybe some extra genetic markers
07:10 < kanzure> remember the genetic recombination in the mouse brain paper?
07:10 < kanzure> it was lit up like a christmas tree in there
07:11  * nsh fails to recall, would appreciate reference
07:11 < kanzure> uhm
07:11 < kanzure> brainbow
07:11 < kanzure> http://www.livescience.com/animals/071031-brainbow.html
07:11 < nsh> got it
07:12 < kanzure> http://www.hms.harvard.edu/research/brain/methods.html
07:12 < kanzure> possibly more trustworthy source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15886895
07:14 < kanzure> http://code.google.com/apis/earth/
07:14 < kanzure> yarr, only available on windows
07:14 < kanzure> I'll consider sleeping now.
07:22  * nsh watches the blender video
07:22 < nsh> hmm
07:22 < nsh> he used hamming distance for vectors
07:23 < nsh> or something similar
07:24  * nsh looks for paper
07:38 < kanzure> if you find anything please share
07:40 < nsh> links from http://www.mcdb.ucla.edu/Research/Hartenstein/acardona/science.html
07:41 < nsh> http://download.blender.org/documentation/bc2006/cardona_blender_conf.pdf
07:41 < nsh> ^ the blender paper
07:42 < kanzure> 600 GB dataset
07:42 < kanzure> well, shit
07:42 < kanzure> that's for a flybrain
07:43 < kanzure> http://www.mcdb.ucla.edu/Research/Hartenstein/acardona/reading_notes.html <-- hahah
07:43 < kanzure> this is much like my own notes on, well, everything
07:43 < kanzure> he cites Markram
07:44 < kanzure> and Kurzweil
07:44 < nsh> mmm
07:44 < kanzure> and Peter Norvig. Very interesting. Peter is the guy behind http://goertzel.org/ - Goertzel's funding
07:45 < kanzure> or he's the guy doing some SIAI stuff. I forget.
07:45 < nsh> rings a bell
07:45 < nsh> oh, he's director of research at google
07:46 < kanzure> he's moving to Zurich
07:46 < kanzure> oh, sorry
07:46 < kanzure> yes
07:46 < kanzure> most awesome job in the galaxy
07:46 < nsh> very likely
07:46  * nsh has to go vortex some flies
07:46 < kanzure> but really
07:46 < kanzure> nsh, are you near Zurich?
09:28 < nsh> not particularly
09:29 < nsh> 2,340km by road
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11:34 < kanzure> stupid geography
12:01 < kanzure> http://www.semantic-systems-biology.com/biogateway/querying
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14:17 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-07-10_wine_brainbow_fail.png
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14:25 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-07-10_wine_brainbow_fail.png
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14:31 < ybit> still looks the same as the last ;)
14:31 < kanzure> eh
14:32 < kanzure> pidgin died and fell out of the air
14:32 < ybit> kopete shoot it down?
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14:34 < kanzure> http://www.educationanddemocracy.org/FSCfiles/C_CC2a_TripleRevolution.htm
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16:20 < kanzure> http://www.horsepigcow.com/2007/05/28/losercamp/
16:20 < kanzure> hah
16:20 < kanzure> a 'fail camp'
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17:40 < kanzure> Beep.
17:42 < Splicer> beep
17:42 < kanzure> k
17:42 < kanzure> What's going on?
17:43 < Splicer> just bought a name cause i liked the sound of it
17:45 < kanzure> ?
17:45 < Splicer> a .com name... it's not rippled through yet
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19:01 < kanzure> http://www.youtube.com/VernGraner
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19:24 < fenn> nasa tv is kinda interesting right now
19:25 < willPow3r>  words of a true nerd.
19:28 < willPow3r> joke. juust a joke.
19:42 < fenn> lol there is an SCA member/video game developer from austin on this flight
19:44 < fenn> as they are hacking away at the spacecraft with a knife
19:46 < Splicer> how come the american is in charge of sewing up the russian module?
19:48 < fenn> they're both russians, the american is a translator on the ground
19:48 < fenn> it's kinda confusing because she's speaking for both of them
19:49 < Splicer> aaah..hehehe
19:49 < Splicer> I was thinking she was very cool
19:50 < Splicer> she really sounds like she takes part
19:56 < willPow3r> are you watching on tv or streaming?
19:57 < Splicer> I'm listening to audio only on nasa tv
20:01 < fenn> you're probably missing avisynth.dll right?
20:01 < fenn> go to mplayerhq.hu and get the codec pack
20:03 < willPow3r> oh man, i really don't want to install realplayer on linux
20:03 < fenn> you dont have to, mplayer works fine
20:05 < Splicer> I'm actually running an xp... if there is a video I think the reason I'm not getting it is because my p2p downloads use the bandwidth.
20:06 < Splicer> I really like this pic, it's taken after the landing of a russian capsule:
20:06 < Splicer> http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/photogallery/gallery_152/pages/IMG_8849.htm
20:06 < willPow3r> hah  yep
20:06 < willPow3r> sweet
20:08 < Splicer> Russians can often have a cool pragmatic outlook on things
20:09 < willPow3r> is there a non-translated version?
20:11 < fenn> i like this one http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Soyuz_TMA-9_launch.jpg/398px-Soyuz_TMA-9_launch.jpg
20:13 < Splicer> good pic 
20:14 < Splicer> I really like that thrusterdesign for some reason
20:22 < willPow3r> russian tv news is amazing
20:24 < willPow3r> they actually show somewhat unbiased reporting on iran
20:26 < willPow3r> and they have way-hot female news anchors
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21:56 < wrldpc> Greetings from DIYBio.
21:59 < wrldpc> we're running the electrophoresis experiment ... i cant locate the doc ... 
21:59 < wrldpc> it's an o'reilly piece ... if anyone has that link i'd appreciate it ... I'm going to cross-post this request to diybio
22:01 < wrldpc> bishop you're an AI.
22:01 < wrldpc> :)
22:01 < wrldpc> bryan r u there?
22:04 < wrldpc> health.
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23:26 < ybit> the font in my tty screens is WAY too large, how can i adjust it? also, when booting up, it doesn't show anything, just a blank screen and it takes forever to load as opposed to when i select recovery mode in the grub menu
23:26 < ybit> in the grub.lst file, i removed quiet
23:27 < ybit> so, i don't know what's going on when it boots showing nothing
23:31 < ybit> holy crap
23:31 < ybit> wrong channel :P
23:31 < ybit> sorry everyone
23:31 < ybit> but hey, if anyone knows an answer that'd be nice