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01:05 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/shots/2008-07-12_uhh.png <-- Heh. Superkuh showing up in my search results on Google Scholar ...
02:57 < fenn> there's something screwy with the / mark in your url: "/shots/2008-07-12_uhh.png was not found"
03:20 < fenn> thought you'd be interested in this (if you havent read it already) http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/6268
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06:19 -!- Topic for #hplusroadmap: Semi-intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXKbzbeipmI http://diybio.org/ http://openwetware.org/ | diy bio toolkit: http://biohack.sf.net/ | Automated societal knowledge (put it to work): http://heybryan.org/exp.html | Channel wiki: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/ | F/OSS perspectives on Kurzweil: http://heybryan.org/fernhout/
06:19 -!- Topic set by kanzure [] [Sat Jul  5 23:09:51 2008]
06:19 [Users #hplusroadmap]
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06:19 [ fenn    ] [ kanzure] [ Overand] [ Splicer] 
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12:40 < kanzure> fenn: thanks for the reverse engineering link
12:40 < kanzure> very much so 'bruteforce' style
12:40 < kanzure> I've spoken with my dad before about reverse engineer microprocessors
12:40 < kanzure> but the calculations just looked way too nasty, for instance given 128-bit chips
12:41 < kanzure> that's at least 2^128 input states
12:41 < kanzure> but then you have however many bits of memory
12:41 < kanzure> so you have to have ((((bits of memory))^2)^128)
12:41 < kanzure> which is not good
12:41 < kanzure> unless you're able to actually slice up the microprocessor and visually analyze it
12:43 < kanzure> fenn: the wine guys aren't being helpful to me. who do I need to stalk to even begin to figure out how to debug my problem?
12:43 < kanzure> http://www.space-frontier.org/Events/NewSpace2008/
13:33 < kanzure> http://mars-sim.sourceforge.net/
13:33 < kanzure> fenn: if we were to provide a library from SKDB for mars-sim to use, as an example, what might that involve?
13:33 < kanzure> I figure we could do something like package YAML and a python interpreter or something
13:33 < kanzure> and then just do some documentation on loading the objects / packages into the simulation for whatever type of work they want to do
13:33 < kanzure> right?
13:33 < kanzure> it's really not much as far as I can tell
13:46 < kanzure> http://www.technologyreview.com/Energy/21066/ photovoltaic filter -
13:46 < kanzure> "What they've developed is technology to channel the light to the edge of the plates, where you would then have your photovoltaic device. The trick is that you could filter off select parts of the spectrum and then channel them into PV's designed specifically to handle them."
13:47 < kanzure> not bad
13:47 < kanzure> "This has been a long time coming.... the concept of using basic photonic technologies such as waveguides (as in this example) or photonic crystals seems to have been lost on a lot of solar researchers. Over the years we've gotten much better at manipulating light on the micro and nanoscale using photonics and plasmonics respectively, however little of these ideas seem to have seeped into solar cell research."
13:48 < kanzure> " the concept for what we called the Lateral Aperture design. As far as I know it was the first design for a wave guide that integrated one side as a collection surface with the internal capture of radiant energy which could then be directed parallel to the surface to multiple edges if desired. This technology doesn't use dyes, and therefore has potential for other various applications besides solar, such as fiber optics, satellit
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15:48 < Splicer> It's not possible to set a message footer/signature in google groups?
15:49 < kanzure> You can send email to Google Groups, so just set your signature in gmail or your mail client.
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16:22 < Splicer> thanks
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19:52 < fenn> the solar concentrator reminds me of a flat "lense" for credit-card cameras (really a fresnel mirror)
19:54 < fenn> lost to the mists of web-browser history i guess
19:58 < kanzure> Hey Depucelator, Democritus.
20:07 < fenn> o_O  alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking is ranked higher than alt.binaries.pictures.anime
20:24 < kanzure> wrong type of strippers
20:32 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/sketches/stripper.png
21:04 < kanzure> well, I got my 'system admin' perspective, didn't I? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_Dave heh'
21:04 < kanzure> fenn: hot?
21:13 < fenn> weird plot for a comedy
21:15 < fenn> they should use those solar concentrators for interior lighting (think himawari)
21:16 < fenn> http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page02.htm
21:18 < fenn> better description http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html
21:18 < kanzure> you mean the roof inlets for light?
21:18 < kanzure> ah, no
21:19 < fenn> i'm looking at some other 'lateral concentrator' designs which show fiber optic cables stuck on the side
21:19 < kanzure> http://www.himawari-net.co.jp/e_page-index01.html why is it outdoors?
21:19 < kanzure> hm
21:19 < fenn> because that's where the sunlight is
21:20 < fenn> it's a light pipe, which transmits light from the roof to wherever in the building
21:20 < kanzure> good
21:21 < fenn> i always wondered at how they make you wake up early to go to work in a dark building all day, so that you leave by the time the sun's going down
21:22 < kanzure> how does this solve that?
21:22 < kanzure> that's just scheduling, isn't it?
21:23 < fenn> i wonder why they use glass, a flexible plastic dye concentrator would be way better
21:23 < fenn> i know why (glass has higher transmission efficiency) but its stupid
21:23 < fenn> wah
21:24 < fenn> here's scheduling for ya http://www.dbeat.com/28/
21:25 < kanzure> sure, but what does that have to do with it
21:25 < kanzure> people will leave because their managers tell them to
22:09 < kanzure> uh
22:09 < kanzure> general announcement
22:09 < kanzure> server is going down toight
22:09 < kanzure> *tonight
22:09 < kanzure> don't know when it'll be back up
22:09 < Depucelator> change topic?
22:10 -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: heybryan server will be down as of 2008-07-12 | Semi-intro http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXKbzbeipmI http://diybio.org/ http://openwetware.org/ | diy bio tools: http://biohack.sf.net/ | Automated societal knowledge (put it to work): http://heybryan.org/exp.html | Channel wiki: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/ | F/OSS re: Kurzweil: http://heybryan.org/fernhout/
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22:30 < wrldpc> alpha prime standing by.
22:30 < wrldpc> hehhh
22:30 < wrldpc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXAUcpjKic
22:31 < wrldpc> ths is what i do if it can be said that this doing ANYTHING
22:31 < wrldpc> need an hplus theme song ehh ... bryan get on teh beats!
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22:44 < Splicer> ;) ...nice sounds
22:47 < wrldpc> thanks I
23:05 < kanzure> Hplus theme song?
23:05  * kanzure gets to work on that
23:10 < wrldpc> yah man!
23:10 < wrldpc> get some beats! lol
23:10 < wrldpc> H-
23:10 < wrldpc> H-PLUS
23:11 < wrldpc> SPACE OR BUST
23:11 < wrldpc> brain trust
23:11 < wrldpc> brace for the thrust of the most magnanimous
23:23 < Splicer> I think John Hodgman said 'If you want to be a writer the first thing you need is a personal troubadour'
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23:26 < kanzure> What about the Metallica version of Vader's theme? May I use that ?
23:28 < kanzure> oh, I have it
23:28 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/2008-05-05 How about that?
23:41 < fenn> the craigslist spam software article is pretty sad
23:42 < fenn> makes me want to form a rogue ninja cabal to hunt down spammers
23:43 < kanzure> context?
23:43 < kanzure> was that on 2008-05-05 ?
23:43 < fenn> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=564293&cid=23547495 http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Getting_the_"Free"_Business_Model_Wrong_Doesn't_Mean_the_Model_is_Flawed 2008-05-27
23:44 < fenn> the craigslist spams are a lot harder to distinguish at first glance from real postings
23:44 < kanzure> right 
23:44  * kanzure is ashamed to admit his lack of reading slashdot these days
23:46 < Democritus> yeah i gravitate towards reddit.  which is sad.  i can feel my intellect dwindling away
23:47 < fenn> i'd call slashdot more political than intellectual, bleh
23:49 < kanzure> it has occassional bouts of brains in the comments
23:54 < Democritus> yeah- reddit comments are just freaking funny