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00:45 < kanzure> http://www.wgint.com/projects/ip/
00:45 < kanzure> What are "facility management services" ?
00:49 < kanzure> 'Saturn Assembly Plant -- At three million square feet, the Saturn Assembly plant is one of the largest and most technologically advanced industrial complexes ever built. The five major structures encompass more than 4.5 million square feet of floor space. The plant is approximately one mile long by half a mile wide.' 
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02:19 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Engineering_Expo_2008
02:43 < kanzure> http://www.swri.org/cms/ViewPubs.asp?UnitCode=10&Year=2007
02:43 < kanzure> I wonder if that's the B Stroustrup that I'm thinking of
03:40 < kanzure> http://www.engr.utexas.edu/expo/students/showCompany.cfm?id=449
03:40 < kanzure> wtf is "cyber security mathematics"
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03:53 < nsh> twatspeak for cryptology?
03:59 < faceface> I never met a fat researcher
04:01 < faceface> show me the buffet
04:01 < faceface> "After 45 minutes at each activity, participants were invited to eat as much as they wanted from a buffet."
04:01 < faceface> that is my kind of study!
04:02 < faceface> "The researchers had already shown that each session of intellectual work requires only three calories more than the rest period." - now that's curious
04:04 < faceface> hmm... I really want to crack rsa 200... I recon its divide and conquer... 
04:05 < faceface> soo.... somehting that has been bugging me for a while... is there no electro chemical way to extract usefull energy from a radioactive source? heating up water seems such a lame way to go about it.
04:11 < kanzure> you mean, a source that is spitting out photons or something?
04:11 < kanzure> like, uh, photosynthesis can do maybe
04:11 < kanzure> dunno
04:12 < kanzure> the number of oil companies on this list is ridiculous
04:12 < kanzure> "a bajillion barrels of oil a day!"
04:12 < kanzure> except 100 different times over
04:19 < faceface> kanzure, something... or... I mean ... are particles of gamma radiation charged?
04:19 < faceface> I forgot all my physics...
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04:24 < kanzure> gamma photons are cosmic asskickers, but that's not "gamma radiation" typically
04:24 < kanzure> stupid contextualization
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04:40 < kanzure> http://www.engr.utexas.edu/expo/students/showCompany.cfm?id=188 <-- sort of a garage story .. not really. '22 veterans' probably get funding easily enough
04:41 < kanzure> bkero: if I go talk with Intel will you put in a word for me?
04:41  * kanzure kids
04:42 < bkero> kanzure: yea sure
04:42 < bkero> What would you do here though?
04:44 < faceface> Biodefense versus bioterrorism.
04:44 < faceface> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18771576
04:45 < bkero> heh
04:45 < faceface> A recently departed genome biologist discusses the impact factor of his life with St Peter at the Pearly Gates.?
04:45 < faceface> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18671833
04:46 < faceface> crud... I thought GB was open access
04:47 < kanzure> bkero: Rant at you for CISC?
04:49 < kanzure> (more seriously, microprocessor architecture would be my gig)
04:50  * kanzure wonders what Goldman Sachs is doing on the list
04:51 < bkero> kanzure: intel make shit
04:51 < bkero> I fucking hate cisc
04:51 < bkero> and intel can't innovate to save it's own life
04:52 < bkero> x86 should have been done in 1992.
04:52 < kanzure> huh, and Giganews .. didn't know they're still around
04:52 < kanzure> heh, "still" - I feel old
04:53 < kanzure> intel doing something non-cisc would turn more heads than they think
04:53 < kanzure> (in their direction)
04:54 < kanzure> not like anybody else is going to do cisc except AMD trying to pick up the remains :p
05:10 < bkero> lol
05:10 < bkero> Yea
05:10 < bkero> CISC is dead as dead
05:10 < bkero> Now if they used a proper architecture like ARM and ported over some of their shit
05:10 < bkero> Things would be much better
05:11 < bkero> ZOMG Atom uses 2 watts.  The lowest chipset rated for it uses 7 watts.  Most use 22 watts.
05:11 < bkero> My phone uses a 400MHz arm processor that's almost as fast.  It uses double digit millawatts
05:14 < bkero> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Image:Hookers_addicts_queers_homeless_trannies_hustlers.jpg
05:20 < fenn> faceface: re direct radiation to energy conversion: thermophotovoltaics, magnetohydrodynamic plasma, or my favorite the beta battery
05:32 < faceface> magnetohydrodynamic plasma, that sounds about what I was thinking
05:36 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Engineering_Expo_2008
05:36 < kanzure> rawr
05:36  * kanzure finished
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12:44 < kanzure> haha
12:45 < kanzure> this isn't so bad
12:45 < kanzure> get to watch some Star Trek in class
12:45 < kanzure> "since it is an example of an ai being denied rights"
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13:14 < kanzure> okay, I have a dillema
13:14 < kanzure> go build a bioreactor for the school
13:14 < kanzure> or
13:15 < kanzure> go see Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company and their chairman, Morris Chang?
13:30 < kanzure> biodiesel production technology pdf: http://www.osti.gov/bridge/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=15008801
13:31 < kanzure> Oh well. Since when have I been one for authority. 
13:35 < fenn> oh how i wish this had at least come to pass: http://www.stephenwolfram.com/publications/articles/computing/88-tablet/index.html
13:36 < fenn> i suggest the company chairmen, for crosscultural enlightenment, since you probably wont get around to building a bioreactor anyway
13:37 < fenn> biodiesel is stupid and inefficient
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15:01 < kanzure> fenn: apparently the girl has accumulated all of the parts and she's ready to go
15:24 < Nade|sleep> not bad predictions
15:25 < Nade|sleep> he wasn't too far off
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15:25 < Nade> not that it'd be particularly hard to make that prediction in the 1980s
15:26 < Nade> the more interesting question is, what predictions can we make now about what things will be like in 20 years time..
15:27 < kanzure> meh
15:27 < kanzure> predictions
15:27 < kanzure> the best way to predict the future is to invent it
15:27 < Nade> true
15:27 < Nade> but sometimes inventions cost money and aren't within your capabilities
15:28 < Nade> I'd quite like some oled wallpaper but since I don't have any oled production facilities handy, i'll stick with the prediction
15:28 < kanzure> mon-ey?
15:30 < Nade> nuclear powered homes would be nice to see too
15:30 < Nade> but thats more than 20 years off
15:31 < Nade> and perhaps unnecessary
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18:32 < kanzure> So
18:33 < kanzure> re: the lack of bootstrapping of skdb, 
18:33 < kanzure> it would be interesting if 'semantic search facilitator' and the storywizards would be used to naturally capture the user's 'parts' that he employs in his every day search, at minimal cost -- i.e., embedded in the searching process, not some aftermath metadata
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18:44 < kanzure> http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dg2jzdft_46cdb2b4gr&pli=1&browserok=true
18:59 < pk> we can't access your google docs
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