--- Day changed Sun Oct 26 2008 00:14 < kanzure_> I wonder why this is taking so long to compile. 00:16 < kanzure_> Hi world. 00:17 < wrldpc> hey bryan. 00:18 < wrldpc> bryan, do you game? 00:18 < kanzure_> Anything in particular? 00:19 < wrldpc> mmorpg 00:19 < kanzure_> Nah, I haven't played an MMORPG in years. 00:20 < wrldpc> play Go? any history with game design? 00:20 < kanzure_> Lots of history with game design. 00:20 < kanzure_> Love affair with game design. 00:20 < wrldpc> :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_board_game 00:33 < kanzure_> Ah, it's hanging on the perl compile. 01:30 < wrldpc> I am cultivating my programming ability. 01:43 < kanzure_> Are you? 01:51 < wrldpc> Very .. slowly. 01:52 < wrldpc> I am, by and large, uninitiated into such pursuits. 01:53 < kanzure_> You're initiating only now? 01:54 < wrldpc> LOL no. 01:54 < kanzure_> Then why did you just say that you aren't initiated? 01:54 < wrldpc> I took a Pascal class in high school LOL ... Basic in elementary .. hahaha ... 01:54 < kanzure_> You took classes? 01:54 < wrldpc> aye 01:55 < kanzure_> I don't think classes count. 01:55 < wrldpc> agree 01:55 < wrldpc> it's all personal pursuit? 01:59 < kanzure_> Yes, but no, there's some sort of reality distortion field caused by 'formal education'. 02:00 < bkero> http://learnyouahaskell.com/chapters 02:00 < bkero> Learn yourself a haskell for great good. 02:01 < wrldpc> copy 02:01 < wrldpc> i agree, bryan. 02:05 < wrldpc> "zencat: Women can go thru cubic stacks of money, especially with the princess complex" LOL! 02:13 < wrldpc> hey splicer 02:14 < wrldpc> How does haskell set me up for perl? they seem functionally equivalent. 02:14 < kanzure_> Haskell equivalent to perl? 02:15 < kanzure_> Advantages of perl include http://perlmonks.org/ and http://cpan.org/ and http://slashdot.org/ .. what does haskell have? Atoms? 02:16 < bkero> Er 02:16 < bkero> perl is kind of functional 02:16 < bkero> Haskell is a functional language. Perl is mostly procedural. 02:16 < kanzure_> I don't know if he was referring to it in formal terms. 02:16 < bkero> If you've ever written object-oriented perl you'd know what I'm talking about. 02:17 < bkero> I'm learning haskell so I can write better perl. :) 02:17 < wrldpc> cool. 02:17 < wrldpc> thank you. 02:17 < wrldpc> who programs the programmers? 02:18 < bkero> Metaprogrammeres 02:18 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/quotes.html 02:18 < bkero> http://bacongeek.com/ 02:18 < kanzure_> "I am programmer, program, and that which is programed." 02:18 < wrldpc> I hate myself. 02:18 < kanzure_> Re: metaprogrammers, see Metacoders.mp3 02:18 < kanzure_> wrldpc: ? 02:18 < wrldpc> heh 02:18 < bkero> bkero has not been recorded in quote. 02:19 < kanzure_> bkero: Pardon? 02:19 < wrldpc> I can't fit these blocks into the holes!!! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 02:19 < wrldpc> ;P 02:19 < wrldpc> epic 02:20 < kanzure_> Was there a bkero quote that I should have on therE? 02:20 < kanzure_> *there? 02:20 < bkero> Of course 02:21 < bkero> I'm great. 02:30 < Splicer> hi wrldpc.. sorry for the lag 02:30 < Splicer> hehe.. not here any more I see 02:42 < bkero> Of course we are. 02:47 < wrldpc> They're arguing about cars in #electronics. 02:47 < wrldpc> I'm like, "none of these cars can even hover." 02:48 < bkero> Do you know anything about electronics and programming? 02:48 < bkero> I'm looking to get the contents of a register from my chipset. 02:49 < bkero> I have a memory offset for the register, but I can't find out where the memory region of the chipset begins. 02:51 < fenn> is there a datasheet for the chip? 02:52 < fenn> should be several hundred pages of dry technical detail 02:52 < bkero> Looked it over 02:53 < fenn> celldesigner.org looks pretty cool, why dont we just use that 03:02 < Splicer> Interesting licence: http://celldesigner.org/license.txt 03:03 < Splicer> It looks like a very cool piece of software though 03:15 < bkero> Warning: Shitty license alert. 03:16 < wrldpc_> What's a name of clear fluid that is highly acidic? 03:18 < fenn> wrldpc_: "acid" 03:18 < wrldpc_> heh 03:18 < fenn> they're mostly clear 03:19 < wrldpc_> fenn you're so trite ;-) 03:19 < fenn> hydrochloric, acetic, sulfuric 03:20 < bkero> lysergic 03:22 < kanzure_> fenn: I wouldn't mind stealing the methods in their source. 03:24 < gene_> http://arxiv.org/abs/0810.3035 03:24 < gene_> hasn't been tried yet 03:24 < gene_> wonder if it works 03:24 < gene_> HOLY CRAP 03:25 < gene_> http://arxivblog.com/?p=684 03:25 < gene_> screw biobricks 03:25 < gene_> let's play with amoebas 03:25 < fenn> what does slime mould have to do with biobricks? 03:26 < gene_> it looks like they got some sort of circuit?? 03:26 * fenn waves hands frantically 03:26 < fenn> so does every other lifeform 03:27 < gene_> I guess neither you or I understands the paper 03:28 < Splicer> "A few years ago a Hungarian team showed that slime mold was able to find the shortest way through a maze." 03:28 < Splicer> I think I want to try with snot 03:30 < gene_> amoeba are fairly smart 03:30 < gene_> maybe more so than your snot 03:33 < kanzure_> What the hell is smart? 03:33 < Splicer> I wonder what use an amoeba in the wild would have of remebering intervals 03:33 < kanzure_> Argh. VH1classic ad for "help us cure autism" sponsored by KISS .. grumble grumble 03:33 < kanzure_> Anyway, 03:35 < kanzure_> I was going to complain about something else, but then I got distracted with circuit handwaving. 03:38 < Splicer> (I thought Jenny McCarthy had already cured autism) 03:38 < kanzure_> Who now? 03:38 < Splicer> She used to be in playboy I think 03:38 < Splicer> ..married to Jim Carrey 03:45 < kanzure_> Anybody know about Cloud Cult? 03:50 < Splicer> Cloud Cult-Chemicals Collide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMskKuG6Vsc 04:27 < fenn> i dont see what is so amazing about marcin's 4 page word doc 04:27 < kanzure_> "open source ecology" mention on openmanufacturing? 04:29 < fenn> ya 04:29 < kanzure_> me either. I just ignored it. 04:34 < kanzure_> it looked like a money request 04:37 < fenn> it's "gimme $20k and i'll give you a fork() button" 04:38 < fenn> in this case the process you're forking is "how to make the tools to make a brick press" 04:38 < kanzure_> if it forks down to the root, and he has evidence of this, then that's grounds for starting a discussion of course 04:38 < fenn> he doesnt have a working design yet(?) 04:38 < kanzure_> sounds like a pre-emptive hostage scenario 04:39 < fenn> rational street performer protocol, sloppily executed 04:58 < fenn> hey, how big is books/bio? 05:03 * kanzure_ checks 05:04 < kanzure_> 3.8 GB 05:07 < drazak> kanzure_: can you send me the rest of the chem books, when you get a chance? and probably the bio books? 05:07 < kanzure_> drazak: http://heybryan.org/books/chem/ 05:07 < kanzure_> drazak: http://heybryan.org/books/bio/ 05:10 < kanzure_> How do I symlink a dir? Regular ln never works for this. 05:10 < drazak> ln -s 05:10 < kanzure_> ah, ln -s 05:10 < kanzure_> crap 05:10 < drazak> although, iirc 05:10 < kanzure_> drazak's answer doesn't count because of alt-switching-lag. 05:11 < drazak> apache doesn't recognize symblinks all the time 05:11 < drazak> I had issues with it a coupla times 05:14 < drazak> ok, I'm going to rape your upload later tonight 05:15 < fenn> you need Options FollowSymLinks in the directory with the symlink 05:15 < fenn> everyone gang-bang kanzure's server! 05:17 < gene_> ewww 05:17 < gene_> gross 05:19 < drazak> fenn: yeah 05:19 < drazak> fenn: it decides to work without that sometimes 05:28 < kanzure_> fenn: yes, I have FollowSymLinks turned on 05:28 < kanzure_> fwiw. 05:29 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/books/ now has an index. small slice of the goods. 05:36 < kanzure_> ybit: http://heybryan.org/books/ 05:36 * kanzure_ is fixing the SPOF issue. 05:37 < ybit> hi kanzure 05:38 < ybit> that's a new link to me, thanks 05:41 < kanzure_> It's not quite everything. Feedback welcome .. I cna go dig around for Other Stuff. 05:53 < gene_> anyone know a cheap photoresist? 05:53 < gene_> and where to get a lot of copper coated polymide? 05:54 < kanzure_> Added some more to the directory index. Have fun. 05:56 < drazak> gene_: if you're making circuit boards, glossypaper+laserprinter is almost as good as photoresis, and cheaper 06:03 < wrldpc_> Awesome! You have fusionanomaly .. is this updated anymore? 06:04 < kanzure_> I suspect atomjack is dead. 06:04 < kanzure_> He never replies to emails, and his site doesn't appear to be updated. 06:04 < wrldpc_> Did Aubrey ever answer your question about Sci-Fi? 06:04 < kanzure_> Scuse me? 06:05 < wrldpc_> http://heybryan.org/books/Aubrey/kanzure_questions.html 06:05 < kanzure_> Oh, no. 06:05 < kanzure_> The Damien Broderick thing. 06:05 < wrldpc_> nd. My interactions with him .. aye yea 06:06 < wrldpc_> My interactions with him went from cool to clipt ... if that's even a word. 06:06 < wrldpc_> Which it's not. 06:06 < wrldpc_> clipped. 06:07 < kanzure_> ? 06:09 < kanzure_> I don't grep. 06:10 < drazak> kanzure_: the word is grok 06:10 < kanzure_> grep as in parse 06:10 < kanzure_> grok != parse 06:11 < drazak> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grok&usg=AFQjCNH0ShPvJHH4oOtXs3j47Hggpo_1Lg 06:12 < wrldpc_> He was very GTTFP I could be in the lab right now, in fact, I probably am. 06:13 < wrldpc_> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grok 06:20 < kanzure_> Even more added. 06:32 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/books/fakemon/ heh' 07:29 < UtopiahGHML> gene_ (damn he's offline) : "real" mini-tachikoma here : http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-15646-Put+a+Tachikoma+on+Your+Desk!.html 07:29 < UtopiahGHML> it would actually rock to have it like + as a widget + as a website assistant :D 07:32 < UtopiahGHML> (well this one doens't move though...) 08:56 < fenn> holy gigabooks batman! 13:21 < kanzure_> fenn: Sadly does not include gigabooks. 13:21 < kanzure_> Hi amaruk . 14:05 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/books/biobricks/types/ 14:05 < kanzure_> Hah. Well now. 14:05 < kanzure_> Turns out I already did the work. 19:43 < UtopiahGHML> The PeerVM project is an ongoing effort at the ACIS Laboratory at University of Florida,Gainesville which brings together the recent advances in the fields of Peer-to-Peerrouting technologies,Virtualization and Grid technologies in an attempt to build a Planetary Scale Distributed, Self-Configurable, and Decentralized Virtual Infrastructure. 19:43 < UtopiahGHML> http://boykin.acis.ufl.edu/wiki/index.php/PeerVM 21:27 < kanzure_> Me is back. 21:27 < kanzure_> UtopiahGHML: Interesting. 21:28 < kanzure_> Grumble grumble. Fight Freiza and Comic Book Guy or write email to grandmother about "Life, the universe and everything".