--- Day changed Thu Dec 25 2008 00:13 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:13 -!- willPower__ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:33 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37 < ybit> speaking of molecular astronomy, moto restaurant in chicago looks sweet 00:37 < ybit> been wanting to visit there since discovering them in the summer 00:37 < ybit> but i would much prefer if someone else payed 00:38 < ybit> youtube vids on moto: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47qgz4ToBfE 00:38 < ybit> actually, this is the only vid link needed: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=moto%20restaurant&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv# 01:41 -!- wrldpc [n=ben@ool-43503bd5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:57 -!- wrldpc [n=ben@ool-43503bd5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 02:00 -!- wrldpc [n=ben@ool-43503bd5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:08 -!- jm [n=jm@p57B9CF3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:45 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:52 < wrldpc> Bryan, what's that quote "I am programmer, program, and that which is programmed?" 03:18 < wrldpc> Ishq Allah maboud 'lillah: I am program, programmer and that which is programmed 03:18 < wrldpc> zindell, war in heaven 04:29 < kanzure_> wrldpc: You've got it. 04:29 < wrldpc> merry xmas b 04:29 < kanzure_> What? what day is it 06:04 < wrldpc> thursday, 25th 06:04 < wrldpc> I think we should restructure time 06:04 < wrldpc> It's not accurate to call this the 2009th year. 06:04 < wrldpc> er 06:04 < wrldpc> 2008th 06:45 -!- wrldpc [n=ben@ool-43503bd5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [] 06:46 -!- gene_ [n=chatzill@pool-71-164-238-185.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:47 -!- gene [n=chatzill@pool-71-164-238-185.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:47 -!- gene_ is now known as gene 07:51 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 08:01 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:17 < kanzure_> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081225/ap_on_sc/do_it_yourself_dna 11:17 < kanzure_> Meredith made AP 11:17 < kanzure_> wtf :) 11:33 < gene> DAMN 11:33 < gene> I wish I had money 11:34 < gene> screw Jim Thomas 12:38 < kanzure_> blah, I don't want to drive to christmas dinner. 12:39 < gene> then teleport or fly there 12:48 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- willPower__ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:24 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- willPower__ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:04 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: boogles, willPow3r, Overand, clonedgene, gene, bkero, procto, willPow3r_, drazak, fenn 14:06 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bkero, gene, procto, boogles, clonedgene, willPow3r_, fenn, willPow3r, drazak, Overand 14:10 -!- Netsplit orwell.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: boogles, willPow3r, clonedgene, Overand, gene, bkero, procto, willPow3r_, drazak, fenn 14:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: bkero, gene, procto, boogles, clonedgene, willPow3r_, fenn, willPow3r, drazak, Overand 14:12 -!- willPower__ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:28 -!- willPow3r_ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:37 -!- nsh [n=kaapo@c48.adsl.tnnet.fi] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:07 -!- jk4930 [n=jk@p54BCCB24.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:21 -!- willPower__ [n=will@cpe-67-49-240-214.dc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:41 -!- nsh [n=kaapo@c48.adsl.tnnet.fi] has quit [" semmonen hirvee kiikkerä läjä"] 17:08 < bkero> kanzure_: You're a slashdot hero :P 18:45 -!- xp_prg2 [n=xp_prg3@c-24-130-128-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:45 < xp_prg2> Merry Christmas everyone! :> 18:45 * UtopiahGHML is not christian 18:49 < gene> I'm not human 18:49 < gene> happy festivus 18:50 < gene> and merr qzxyzy! May your kljlkj have many gjgjgjiggsdoes 18:51 < drazak> festivus! 18:51 < drazak> for the restivus! 19:07 -!- willPow3r [n=will@cpe-66-75-6-181.san.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:12 -!- jk4930 [n=jk@p54BCCB24.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #hplusroadmap ["Konversation terminated!"] 19:18 -!- willPow3r [n=will@cpe-66-75-6-181.san.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:02 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:11 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:47 < bkero> http://www.who-sucks.com/people/monstrous-myostatin-misfortunes-a-collection-of-myostatin-deficiency-pictures :) 21:21 < clonedgene> no bkero we don't talk about that here 21:22 < clonedgene> everyone knows performance enhancement belongs in diybio. 21:22 -!- clonedgene [n=chatzill@pool-71-164-238-185.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122]"] 21:51 -!- Maver|ck [i=Looppoo@modemcable020.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:51 < Maver|ck> Hi 21:52 < Maver|ck> I've found this channel while looking at the DIYBio google group forums 21:52 < Maver|ck> What is the channel about exactly ? 21:54 < Maver|ck> Anyone ? :/ 21:54 < willPow3r> its about mapping the way to transhumanity 21:54 < willPow3r> more or less 21:54 < Maver|ck> impressive 21:54 < willPow3r> but i have my doubts since ubuntu can't even run on a x3100 chipset 21:55 < willPow3r> ;) 21:55 < Maver|ck> Are some of you knowledgeable in genetic and neuroscience ? 21:55 < bkero> willPow3r: Linux does. :P 21:55 < willPow3r> bkero, not on my U110 21:55 < bkero> Maver|ck: Yes 21:55 < willPow3r> im studying neuroscience 21:55 < bkero> willPow3r: Linux does. Ubuntu doesn't. I ran it perfectly fine on my Macbook. 21:56 < willPow3r> hmm 21:56 < willPow3r> the reason i stopped using slackware is because i didn't have time to troubleshoot driver issues all the time 21:56 < bkero> What part doesn't work? 21:56 < Maver|ck> lol 21:56 < willPow3r> the graphics part. i get only a blank screen 21:56 < willPow3r> no terminal or anything 21:57 < Maver|ck> willPow3r ok, lucky you 21:57 < willPow3r> you can run ubuntu on a freakin macbook? 21:57 < Maver|ck> no support for GMA x3100 ? 21:57 < willPow3r> im sure i can fudge it with vesa, but whats the fun in that 21:58 < bkero> Um 21:58 < bkero> Intel drivers have supported the GMA X3100 for a long while 21:58 < bkero> I ran it last november 21:58 < bkero> When the macbookf irst came out 21:58 < willPow3r> im using 8.10 21:58 < bkero> I'm just using Gentoo 21:59 < willPow3r> is it as user friendly as ubuntu? 21:59 < bkero> No. 22:00 < willPow3r> i would go back to kateos but i learned to HATE hand-configuring X 22:01 < Maver|ck> Does anyone know if checking in someone's DNA for potential mental disorder genetic markers can be made cheap ? 22:02 < willPow3r> Maver|ck, i suppose you've already asked in #diybio 22:02 < Maver|ck> .. checking for some specific variants etc 22:02 < bkero> Urgh 22:02 < Maver|ck> willPow3r: Didn't even know there was a #diybio .... I just learned about DIYBio. 22:02 < bkero> You know a lot of science channels on here don't allow medical advice. 22:03 < willPow3r> bkero, i wouldn't classify that as med advice... 22:03 < Maver|ck> medical advice ? ... 22:03 < Maver|ck> I'm not asking you to diagnose someone as OCD and for the appropriate prescription ... 22:04 < Maver|ck> let's even forget about the medical theme of my question -> 22:04 < bkero> willPow3r: I wouldn't either 22:04 < bkero> Just a flag 22:04 < willPow3r> i saw it too when i first saw his question 22:05 < Maver|ck> Is it possible with a low budget to check for some gene variants in someone's DNA :) 22:05 < bkero> Sorry, I've hung out in #neuroscience too long, and there's a ton of people who join and ask for how to cure their fucked-up-ness 22:05 < Maver|ck> LOL! 22:05 < Maver|ck> I see 22:06 < Maver|ck> I know how it is. I help a lot of 'fucked' people myself and I know how desesperate some are when searching for a cure 22:06 < bkero> Me too, but I've been on IRC long enough to know that's a dead end. 22:07 < Maver|ck> If you're talking about doing some popular psychology through IRC channel, you're right. 22:08 < Maver|ck> But from time to time, you can help one on the psychopharmacological level... there's some pretty miserable psychiatrist outthere :/ 22:09 < willPow3r> but they're liable for their malpractice 22:09 < willPow3r> on irc, you could be getting advice from a 12 year old for all you know 22:10 < Maver|ck> yes, but their patient usually doesn't have much will power to fight and doesn't have much credibility and power over anything ... of course, if someone's die, the cadaver has some chance of winning the litige ........ /s 22:10 < Maver|ck> true 22:11 < willPow3r> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786210 22:11 < willPow3r> so ubuntu does work on x3100 but not on x3100 rev 0c 22:12 < Maver|ck> So I guess my question would be better asked in #DIYBio ... I'll try that 22:14 < bkero> willPow3r: PCI ID Problem. Use a newer intel x driver. 22:14 < bkero> Oh wait, Ubuntu, you can't. 22:15 < willPow3r> you mean i can't use one from a repository. 22:15 < bkero> Yea 22:15 < willPow3r> i could go the gentoo route and compile one myself 22:15 < bkero> Well, with gentoo you'd have to toolchain already installed 22:15 < bkero> With ubuntu you get to install a bunch of -dev libaries, and a complete buildchain 22:16 < willPow3r> its pretty hassle-free in the end 22:16 < bkero> Except when you have to go off the beaten trail. 22:16 < bkero> I have to do that often. 22:16 < bkero> Which is what makes compiling everything from source so appealing. 22:17 -!- wrldpc [n=ben@ool-43503bd5.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 22:17 < willPow3r> when you get good at it the process can be appealing 22:18 < bkero> But unlike ubuntu I can do emerge =x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.5.1 for the latest point release, or x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-9999 to compile from the live git tree. 22:18 < willPow3r> i used to use slackware in 2004 but i got tired of having to recompile my kernel every other day 22:18 < bkero> You should do a better job of compiling your kernel then. :P I haven't compiled a kernel in weeks, and I'm running the 2.6.28 rc's 22:18 < willPow3r> it auto compiles the newest version? 22:19 < willPow3r> i wasn't doing it because i messed it up every time 22:19 < willPow3r> the kernel was improving rapidly back then 22:21 < bkero> I've never usd genkernel 22:22 < bkero> But kernel's aren't updated that often. And when they are I check the changelist to see if anything affects me. 22:26 < willPow3r> i think im going to make a GIS for the moon 22:27 < willPow3r> nm, already been done a few times 22:36 < willPow3r> kanzure, you around? 22:36 < willPow3r> probably home for xmas or hannukah or something 22:58 -!- Maver|ck is now known as MaveAFK 23:29 -!- ferrouswheel [n=jp@121-73-144-159.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:48 < kanzure_> woah, the diybio list exploded :) 23:49 < kanzure_> MaveAFK: Hi there. 23:57 -!- MaveAFK [i=Looppoo@modemcable020.202-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has quit []