--- Day changed Sat Dec 27 2008
00:13 < gene> great little modeling programming
00:19 < kanzure_> http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Jonathan_Cline/Notebook/Melaminometer   
00:19 < kanzure_> blah, I didn't know they were working on a wiki page
00:19 < kanzure_> why do people inadvertedly go all secretive from a public discussion
00:28 < gene> ugh... drazak I totally agree with you PCB software sucks
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01:57 < bkero> http://www.rdrop.com/~cary/mirror/tools_htmlized.html ?
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06:50 < kanzure_> One of the new guys showing up on diybio (i.e., with Meredith):
06:50 < kanzure_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Len_Sassaman
06:50 < kanzure_> "Sassaman is the co-founder of CodeCon along with Bram Cohen, co-author of the Zimmermann-Sassaman key-signing protocol, and was an organizer of the protests following the arrest of Dmitry Sklyarov."
06:51 < kanzure_> "Meredith's current startup, Osogato, aims to commercialize Meredith's Support Vector Machine-based "query by example" research."
06:51 < kanzure_> gene, that's basically like the multidimensional vector thingy
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08:51 < Phreedom> kanzure_: nice /. stuff ;)
09:00 < kanzure_> :) I've got it covered.
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10:06 < Phreedom> "In the world without walls, who needs windows?"
10:06 < Phreedom> :))
10:31  * kanzure_ thinks Larry Wall is kinda needed.
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10:42 < kanzure_> wrldpc: ?
10:42 < wrldpc> ?
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10:43 < wrldpc> yo
10:43 < wrldpc> can you read this?
10:44 < wrldpc> I want to ring his neck.
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12:57 < wrldpc> ??
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13:03 < wrldpc> what is going on?
13:03 < wrldpc> this is annoying me.
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20:08 < kanzure_> http://www.c-to-verilog.com/   <- An online form to convert C to Verilog. heh
20:08 < kanzure_> "C-to-Verilog is a free service for circuit designers. We invite our visitors to create hardware circuits using the service provided here on our website. Users may submit their C programs and download a verilog module which can then be embedded on FPGAs. Our website will automatically synthesize the C program into a verilog module. For additional information on how to use our website, watch the screencast below."
21:04 < kanzure_> hrm, I need a sugar bioreactor to hook up to the sugar rockets.
21:08 < kanzure_> http://sugarshot.org/downloads/casing_cleaned.jpg
21:14 < xp_prg> kanzure my flash based live chat thing is almost finished :>
21:14 < xp_prg> I am going to use it in biobench for collaboration on the same thing
21:14 < xp_prg> is that not cool?
21:50 < kanzure_> No, it's a shitty idea.
21:50 < kanzure_> IM clients already exist, what improvement are you adding to them?
21:53 < gene> what's a sugar bioreactor
21:54 < gene> you also need an oxidizer I recommend potassium perchlorate
21:54 < gene> which unfortunately can require exotic electrodes(
21:55 < gene> ie platinum or dimensionally stable anodes
21:56 < gene> btw is that pic of your rocket?
22:09 < kanzure_> Not of mine, no.
22:09 < kanzure_> fenn: are you alive yet?
22:10 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/risk.html <- the core argument of my reply to Paul's complaining about diybio risks
22:16 < gene> no Kanzure I believe fenn's a corpsicle
22:17 < kanzure_> Should I give him a ring?
22:17 < gene> Yeah I'd be more worried about Pakistan vs. India using smallpox as a bioweapon
22:19 < gene> oh and kanzure, if you ever want to make a PCB via toner transfer make sure your copper clad is CLEAN
22:19 < gene> very very very clean
22:27 < kanzure_> 'risk' assumes scarcity.
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22:45 < kanzure_> gah, it's like saying Microsoft doesn't have to patch Windows because viruses are morally wrong
22:45 < kanzure_> wtf
22:46 < kanzure_> hi Aulere.
22:47 < Aulere> Hi Kanzure
22:48 < Aulere> Curious, what is the current analogy in reference to?
22:59 < gene> does scarcity cause risk
23:11 < kanzure_> Aulere: Somebody is saying that people shouldn't try genetic engineering at home because it might kill him (or others).
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23:13 < Aulere> Ok
23:15 < gene> you know I am tempted to coat my soldering iron in arctic silver, it's not transfering heat very well right now
23:18 < bkero> wtf
23:18 < bkero> gene: Use copper braid, or sand it
23:19 < gene> what about lead solder?
23:19 < gene> Im using lead free
23:21 < bkero> Shouldn't matter that much
23:22 < gene> it's normal for a new soldering iron to smoke out those holes on the barrel right?
23:29  * kanzure_ ponders that for a bit, wondering why his new soldering irons haven't ever smoked
23:34 < bkero> They can, if they burn off some chemicals that got on them during packaging
23:38 < xp_prg> someone want to test my live chat ability on my website for a minute?
23:38 < bkero> Kill yourself
23:38 < xp_prg> :(
23:38 < bkero> :)
23:39 < gene> THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE
23:41  * bkero ones
23:43 < gene> there can be ONLY ONE
23:45 < gene> btw how do I type in italics like that?