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00:26 < kanzure3> http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0110060 Zero fundamental dimensional quantities?
00:29 < kanzure3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Units_conversion_by_factor-label
00:33 < kanzure3> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Similitude_(model)
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04:36 < faceface> UtopiahGHML: where did you put that 'DNA storage' proposal?
04:37 < faceface> I found some interesting stats in this brief article about 'molecular computation'; http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/296/5567/478.pdf
04:37 < faceface> I'd like to add them to the project proposal.
04:37 < UtopiahGHML> faceface: http://wiki.seedea.org/Oimp/MetaDNA
04:38 < faceface> cheers
04:39 < UtopiahGHML> I didn't change a lot of things since then I think, you can check the history pages 
04:39 < faceface> yup
04:42 < faceface> In principle, more than 10^{21} bits of information are packed into each gram of dehydrated DNA.
04:44 < UtopiahGHML> but how energy costly is it to organize it to hold the information you want to encode there?
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05:02 < faceface> ;-)
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11:34 < kanzure2-> fenn UtopiahGHML samrose 
11:34 < kanzure2-> I need the super quick recap on Jaron Lanier
11:34 < kanzure2-> phone call in 2 minutes
11:35 < kanzure2-> hm, apparently Jaron knows Stewart Brand. 
11:35 < kanzure2-> http://www.gbn.com/about/started.php
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12:43 < kanzure> well that was interesting
12:44 < kanzure> "Mr. Bishop, we're consulting for a U.S. intelligence/security agency, and we'd like to bring you up to San Francisco in March to go into a room with security-concerned individuals."
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18:34 < kanzure> gah, Eric Hunting did another amazing email
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19:45 < kanzure> Robot Research Group offered me a job
20:25 < kanzure3> http://aurelio.net/soft/txt2regex/ Txt2regex is a Regular Expression wizard that converts human sentences to regexes.
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21:06 < kanzure> so that was interesting.. just spending 20 minutes == super win with impresssing the bio people
21:06 < kanzure> "OMG super awesome computer wizardry!"
21:06 < kanzure> behold the regex!
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23:15 < fenn> lanier's "half a manifesto" is quite entertaining
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23:20 < kanzure> isn't it some sort of classic that I should have already read by now?
23:20 < fenn> dunno, i'd never heard of lanier before today, but he appears to have an impressive bio
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23:51 < genehacker> so guess what?
23:54 < genehacker> Corporations are basically distributed intelligences
23:55 < fenn> yawn
23:55 < genehacker> I have proof
23:55 < genehacker> I stared down the Toyota Memome today
23:55 < fenn> they aren't intelligences, they're profit-maximizing algorithms with a legal fictional personality to back it up
23:55 < genehacker> heck toyota is almost an algorithm
23:56 < genehacker> yeah
23:57 < genehacker> so toyota has this practice called kotosan -kotosen, something sounding like that
23:57 < genehacker> which means practice A worked, let's do it everywhere else
23:58 < genehacker> they've discovered horizontal meme transfer
23:58 < genehacker> or basically, the reason we have open source
23:59 < genehacker> fenn, they are very much algorithms
23:59 < genehacker> I wonder what happens if one automates one