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02:11 < Aulere> anyone in here familiar with computational linguistics?
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04:01 < Utopiah> Back to Nature for the Next Technology Revolution http://www.researchchannel.org/prog/displayevent.aspx?rid=28232 
04:01 < Utopiah> (by Babak Parviz, Ph.D, associate professor, Electrical Engineering, University of Washington)
04:06 < bkero> Anybody here good at algorithms?
04:12 < Utopiah> have the basics, why?
04:14 < bkero> Having some issues with a programming assignment of mine
04:16 < Utopiah> ?
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08:55 < fenn> do people really expect you to bother every previous employer/teacher/whatever every single time you apply for a job?
08:58 < nsh> generally you just give a couple of potential referees, and the hiring employer will ask them for references if they consider it necessary
08:58  * nsh doesn't generally ask previous employers up-front for references
08:58 < nsh> some have offered to pre-write them though
08:59 < nsh> but employment is stupid anyway...
09:00 < fenn> of cours
09:00 < fenn> recommend any alternatives?
09:00 < nsh> investment fraud seems to be paying well recently
09:05 < kanzure> apparently you're supposed to make them write the letters of recommendation before you quit/leave/flip-them-off
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09:06 < kanzure> and then just copy those forever.
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09:14 < fenn> damn
09:14 < fenn> nobody ever told me that!
09:26 < fenn> hmm i want this on my HUD http://www.ecademix.com/JohannesHofmann/gipfel.html
09:27 < fenn> but for buildings too
09:36 < fenn> hmm.. differential gps would even allow tagging of inventory items down to the mm
13:24 < kanzure> THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE
13:24 < kanzure> Saul is married to O'Reilly's daughter
13:24 < kanzure> instructables is incest
13:25 < bkero> what
13:25 < bkero> I've seen some incredibly badass stuff on instructables.
13:25 < kanzure> Yes, but there's just some problems with it.
13:26 < kanzure> Anyway, I was talking with the unptnt guy (Dave) and his angel over lunch with Charlie.
13:26 < kanzure> So he completely destroyed my worldview. Instructables is the way it is because it's just incest. Make Magazine links over to instructables, instructables links back to Make.. not because it's "the scene" but because it's artificial (which is fine, but still)
13:26 < kanzure> Saul Griffith.
13:27 < bkero> Make links back to Instructables because an outsourced community is much easier to generate news.
13:28 < bkero> s/news/articles/
13:28 < kanzure> Sure.
13:28 < kanzure> I don't think you understand though.
13:28 < bkero> Perhaps you need to broadsde me with it for me to understand.
13:29 < kanzure> Haven't you seen us complaining about instructables, Make, Make Magazine, O'Reilly, etc. in here before?
13:29 < bkero> Can't say so
13:29 < bkero> I have my own qualms about O'Reilly though.
13:29 < bkero> Make is the new, hip Popular Science though.
13:31 < fenn> Popular Mechanics
13:31 < fenn> without all that focus on practical stuff
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13:32 < bkero> I still enjoy learning about impractical things.
13:33 < bkero> Many of the crazy impractical thoughts I had for operations of a datacentre turned out to be right on the money of what Google actually does. :)
13:33 < fenn> apparently they werent impractical
13:34 < bkero> They are when I do them with a room full of computers.  They aren't when Google's doing them with hundreds of thousands.
13:34 < fenn> what i mean is popular mechanics had all sorts of articles like "how to build a lathe from stuff you have lying around" or "how to build a workbench" which is totally absent in Make
13:34 < fenn> you mean like semi trailers full of motherboards and hard drives in huge piles?
13:34 < bkero> fenn: I mean using lakes for cooling ;)
13:35 < bkero> and auto part stores
13:35 < fenn> gosh do they really?
13:35  * fenn mumbles about low power architectures
13:36 < fenn> auto parts for what?
13:38 < kanzure> apparently Dave's angel is also associated with the octopart group
13:40 < bkero> fenn: Ask me in a PM sometime and I'll see what I can tell you without breaking NDA
13:40 < bkero> :)
13:40 < fenn> octopart is pretty neat
13:41 < kanzure> doesn't have a "buy now" button
13:41 < kanzure> Dave looks a bit like Alec
13:41 < kanzure> lots of energy going on with Dave
13:41 < fenn> i think amazon patented the "buy now" button :)
13:41 < kanzure> anyway, kits, "buy now" buttons, surfraw + octopart 
13:41 < kanzure> Amazon Industrial API but only for 10+ orders of things
13:41 < kanzure> need to run off to class
13:41 < fenn> heh actually there is a buy now button
13:42 < kanzure> it links over to another site
13:44 < bkero> The 'buy now' links correlate to the site on the left
13:44 < bkero> Right now it seems only Farnell has a 'buy now' button, at least for opa2132's
13:45 < fenn> coincidentally i'm messing around with audio amps right now
13:46 < bkero> I've got an OPA2132 in my headphone amp. :)
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13:52 < bkero> Haha, did you guys see http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/03/232221 ?
16:00 < kanzure3_> yes, it's already screwing up though
16:00 < kanzure3_> it turns out that Ray regrets doing it because of the poor management of Space U
16:00 < kanzure3_> Diamandis? that's the guy, or something
16:01 < fenn> isunet.edu?
16:02 < kanzure3_> I think so.
16:02 < fenn> www.isunet.edu
16:02 < fenn> i wonder how to go about getting a .edu domain
16:04 < fenn> you'd think they would just get space.edu
16:08 < bkero> Sounds like a great way to take $25,000 from some kids with a twinkle in their eye.
16:12 < procto> fenn: you need to be accredited
16:12 < procto> in the US
16:13 < procto> apply somewhere here: http://www.chea.org/
16:14 < fenn> http://net.educause.edu/edudomain/show_faq.asp?code=EDUELIGIBILITY
16:14 < fenn> postsecondary.. that's kinda unfair isnt it?
16:22 < kanzure3_> I'm looking for a diagnosis
16:22 < kanzure3_> it's not hypochondriac
16:22 < kanzure3_> and it's not agoraphobia
16:22 < kanzure3_> it's where a person is too disgusted with the world to go outside
16:22 < kanzure3_> what's the word?
16:22 < fenn> postmodern
16:23 < fenn> hikikomori
16:23 < kanzure3_> yes, it's like that 
16:23 < kanzure3_> although there's a more popular english term fori t
16:23 < kanzure3_> *it
16:55 < kanzure> todo: write "Strategies to Prevent Total System Failure"
17:12 < kanzure3_> Joseph will talk about the end of scarcity on the Speculist's popular
17:12 < kanzure3_> podcast Wednesday, February 4 10:30 PM Eastern / 7:30 PM Pacific.
17:12 < kanzure3_> Joseph Jackson
17:12 < kanzure3_> http://www.blog.speculist.com/archives/001979.html
17:15 < kanzure> guess that's 9 my time.
17:16 < kanzure> hm.
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18:51 < kanzure3_> http://nerdbazaar.com/
18:52 < kanzure3_> http://delicious.com/earms
18:58 < kanzure3_> http://vimeo.com/1037507 Institute for the Future - video on ponoko, david ten have
19:25 < gene_> wow Make and Instructables are almost like some sort of news illuminati
19:31 < gene_> let's talk about seasteading
19:32 < gene_> apparently at the bottom of the ocean are huge caches of high grade metal ores just waiting to be exploited: http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/gold-underwater-mining/302
19:32 < gene_> the problem is getting to them
19:33 < gene_> and the legality of such actions
19:35 < gene_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodule
19:35 < gene_> apparently
19:36 < gene_> you have to share your profits with the UN or something
19:37 < gene_> or you have to buy a liscense from the UN to pick up rocks on the bottom of the ocean
19:42 < gene_> rocks rich in a little element named gold
19:56 < gene_> http://scienceblogs.com/deepseanews/2007/05/gold_rush_to_the_deep_seafloor.php
19:56 < gene_> Damn,  apparently the UN "owns" the ocean
20:19 < kanzure3_> http://partsregistry.org/Assembly:Robotic_assembly
20:19 < kanzure3_> http://ginkgobioworks.com/ <- the guys doing that
20:25 < gene_> damn
20:25 < gene_> Kanzure
20:25 < gene_> I've got a burning question
20:26 < gene_> how the heck do they repair nuclear reactors?
20:26 < gene_> do they use robots or people willing to become eunuchs
20:29 < gene_> holy cow
20:30 < gene_> automatic assembly of biobricks?
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20:32 < gene_> http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/ManufWorkcell.jpg
20:32 < gene_> take a look at this
20:33 < gene_> http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/photos.html
20:34 < kanzure3_> http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1404046&dl=ACM&coll=portal Free factories: unified infrastructure for data intensive web services
20:35 < gene_> http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/VisualCalibration.jpg
20:35 < gene_> hmmmm...
20:35 < gene_> If I could only find the paper that goes with this
20:37 < kanzure3_> http://www.robiotec.com/
20:37 < kanzure3_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHlxKhCSbpA
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20:40 < gene_> http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/telerobotics_page/Photos/RSIAlgorithm.jpg
20:40 < gene_> look at the grainyness on that photo
20:41 < gene_> they might have been doing this in the 80s
20:41 < kanzure3_> http://www.symyx.com/
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20:57 < gene_> http://brl.ee.washington.edu/publications/Rep127/images/FigBH1.jpg
21:08 < gene_> I could watch that video you sent me all day long
21:08 < kanzure> RND? yeah 
21:09 < kanzure3_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3IlIE4Yuk
21:09 < kanzure3_> skip the first 3 minutes or something
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22:00 < kanzure3_> http://www.blogtalkradio.com/fastforwardradio
22:00 < kanzure3_> Can anyone figure out how to actually access this stream?
22:17 < gene_> http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0805/0805.0230.pdf
22:17 < gene_> I wonder what it'd take to actually make one these
22:17 < gene_> a balloon filled with electrons
22:18 < gene_> 500million volts/ meter
22:18 < gene_> where can I get that
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23:08 < kanzure3_> http://www.haque.co.uk/papers/hardsp-softsp-open-so-arch.PDF
23:16 < gene_> hmmmm.... physicists are very theoretical
23:16 < gene_> how do I fill a balloon with electrons?
23:18 < kanzure> oooh
23:18 < kanzure> April 3rd, here in Austin, Jerry Seinfeld live :)
23:19 < kanzure3_> http://www.austin360.com/calendar/events2/etc/userEventDisplay.jspd?eventid=100695
23:24 < gene_> speaking of entertainment and such, did you ever finish haruhi?
23:24 < gene_> or at least watch the first couple episodes
23:24 < kanzure> yes
23:25 < gene_> you watched them in chronological order right?
23:25 < kanzure> No.
23:25 < kanzure> Episode numerical order.
23:25 < gene_> damn non-standardized systems
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23:30 < gene_> now it says if one could build a giant tube of electronic gas covered in insulator surrounded by positive charge, one could make a quasi-superconducting balloon and fly levitating future cars on it
23:30 < gene_> http://books.google.com/books?id=u-UqR8zIDEAC&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=kinetic+anti-gravitator&source=bl&ots=5FgHGaiC6E&sig=FMcXMRyQm8Natjo-m1Z4w7aG7UI&hl=en&ei=3neKSZrdBJ6DtweKzbmTBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
23:30 < gene_> check out this paper too
23:31 < gene_> make something stand on the end of a loop of cable
23:31 < gene_> I want to build one
23:52 < kanzure3_> well that was interesting, listening to Joseph Jackson go on about abundancy topics
23:52 < kanzure3_> he was actually kind of coherent