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00:00 < fenn> that's a lot of methods
00:00 < fenn> i'm surprised it works
00:01 < fenn> it really ought to be using named parameters... tsk tsk
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00:07 < kanzure> interesting, self._mgr.AllPanes is a list of size 5 (zeroed out, so it's 6 in total), and there's no "Geometry" (checked via blah=self._mgr.AllPanes[x] print blah.name)
00:08 < kanzure> AllPanes[0] is the drawing canvas, [1] is the pyshell, so this is quite odd..
00:08 < kanzure> maybe it's a staticly sized array?
00:08 < kanzure> s/staticly/statically/
00:28 < fenn> find a minimal code snippet that will reproduce the problem
00:28 < fenn> by that time you probably will have figured out what went wrong
00:35 < kanzure> oh. it was off the screen apparently.
00:36 < kanzure> lkdalkflk;jlkalfa
00:37 < fenn> alt-drag will let you move a large window
00:38 < kanzure> but then why wasn't it in the AllPanes[] list?
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00:46 < fenn> maybe ._mgr doesnt contain things that aren't displayed 
00:46 < fenn> <- clueless about wx
00:47 < kanzure> when did wx show up on the scene anyway?
00:47 < kanzure> hasn't it always been "gtk, or go screw yourself" ?
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00:49 < willPow3r> wx has been around for some time
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01:17 < kanzure> http://www.gavinbaker.com/2009/03/16/why-not-publish-data/
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01:40 < kanzure> fenn: so what if I call it "HeeksCAD" ?
01:40 < kanzure> maybe I'll submit it over to dan?
01:41 < bkero> We made IRC talk to our living room with ii and festival
01:47 < fenn> ii?
01:48 < fenn> kanzure does your physics class have a study group? if so when do they meet?
01:48 < fenn> <- has some introductory physics questions
01:50 < bkero> ii is a named-pipe based irc bot
02:22 < kanzure> fenn: what questions do you have?
02:23 < kanzure> there's a discussion section, free tutoring at a certain building at certain hours, office hours for the professor and office hours of the ta, office hours for the lab guy, blah blah blah
02:24 < fenn> i wanted to ask about units for torque, and why it's commonly N*m instead of N*m/rev or N*m/rad
02:25 < fenn> and while i was there i figured i'd beat up the professor for putting you in a home :D
02:26 < kanzure> while I appreciate that, I think you should beat up my mom
02:26 < kanzure> the physics prof is like a billion years old, that would be rape or something
02:26 < kanzure> http://www.ph.utexas.edu/classes/coker/
02:27 < kanzure> he talks as if he knew Wheeler sometimes :p
02:27 < kanzure> is funny.
02:51 < kanzure> heh, seeing Paul in slashdot comments
02:51 < kanzure> "blah blah blah .. whywork.org .." 
02:51 < kanzure> "hey, this sounds like .. oh. Hi Paul."
02:51 < kanzure> http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1161583&cid=27202941
03:00 < bkero> kanzure: Why are you not at SXSW?!?
03:00 < bkero> I've got a few friends hanging out there.  One is holding a baconlounge, with DJ Baconshoe.  He's rapping and cooking bacon at the same time!
03:01 < bkero> http://twitpic.com/2593e
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03:05 < kanzure> bkero: I wasn't aware that SXSW was at a single location.
03:05 < bkero> It's going on in austin right now, isn't it?
03:08 < kanzure> aren't I in Austin?
03:08 < bkero> Pretty sure
03:08 < bkero> Are you attending any of the events?
03:10 < kanzure> oh
03:10 < kanzure> no :)
03:10 < kanzure> but maybe I should?
03:10 < bkero> Definitely
03:11 < bkero> I've got a lot of friends down there right now, awesome tim.e
03:11 < bkero> I hope to go one year.
03:11 < bkero> I hear Austin is a lot like Portland.
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05:15 < willPow3r> bkero, i heard that about austin too
05:16 < willPow3r> except that i think you can pump your own gas there
05:33 < bkero> Yea
05:33 < bkero> Solution: Don't own a car.
05:33 < bkero> In Portland, you don't really need to.  Train service within city limits is free
05:33 < bkero> and is a fuck of a lot better for getting around than BART
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05:47 < willPow3r> i think portland is slightly more condensed than the bay area
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09:38 < kanzure> "Imagine a world where narcotics remains illegal, and then we have staunch libertarians found a colony  in orbit. We could then order grade-A synthetic heroin analogs, and have it *parachuted* in for pennies a pound."
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10:09 < kanzure> "hoekenif you google map 'brooklyn, ny' and zoom in to street level, i live 3 blocks from where it puts the pointer. =)" <-- good to know I guess
10:42 < kanzure> fenn, do you think I should go to plutopia?
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13:30 < kanzure> hm, dir() is quite helpful
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13:53 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/Manufacturing/pythonocc/find_global_variables_by_type.py
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17:46 < kanzure> hm, jeswin-john suggested using paper cloth as an absorbent material to promote water to move up a capillary channel in microfluidics
17:46 < kanzure> how about a q-tip?
17:57 < kanzure> heh, from one of the authors who did the virtual capillary paper (sharpies), is "Electrochemical Actuation of Growing Copper Dendrimers in Water"
17:57 < kanzure> "We report the observation of electrochemical actuation in growing dendritic fibers made of self-assembled copper nanostructures (of 100 nm or less in diameter), on the metallic cathode of an ordinary aqueous electrochemical cell."
17:57 < kanzure> 1.5 to 12 volts. "Either dilute HCl or CuSO4, or CuCl2, or H2O"
17:58 < kanzure> electrolytes such as: Ag(NO3), Pb(NO3)2, CoCl2, NiCl2, CdCl2, ZnCl2, HauCl4
17:58 < kanzure> erm, sorry, that last one was Hydrogen, so HAuCl4
18:01 < gene> cool
18:12 < kanzure> bwahaha
18:12 < kanzure> using CDs as molds for sharpie microfluidics
18:12 < kanzure> Chattopadhyay is a god
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18:12 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/microfluidics/Patterning%20Design%20in%20Color%20at%20the%20Submicron%20Scale%20-%20Arun%20Chattopadhyay.pdf
18:30 < gene> I wonder if this is how mac guvyer would make a microfluidic circuit to test for lead in a water supply
18:33 < kanzure> nah, macguyver would be able to determine the lead content by taste.
18:40 < kanzure> heh, single-cell MRI
18:43 < kanzure> Surface micropatterning to regulate cell functions   <-- huh. what if you pattern a surface with proteins, and force the cell to go down the path? you can then "program the cell" down the gradient
18:46 < gene> http://www.physorg.com/news156423566.html
18:46 < gene> I don't believe it
18:46 < gene> we can shoot mosquitoes down with a laser
18:50 < kanzure> what is dielectrophoresis?
18:50 < kanzure> gene: yeah, I thought we knew that already?
19:00 < gene> \ O_o /
19:09 < kanzure> http://aiche.confex.com/aiche/2008/techprogram/P133082.HTM Non-Contact Single-Cell Traps Created by Gentle Fluid Forces
19:23 < kanzure> A novel electroporation method using a capillary and wire-type electrode
19:28 < katsmeow-afk> gene, can we do it with a less destructive approach, so my books aren't set on fire?
19:29 < gene> huh?  I would never ever dream of setting a book on fire(even if it was my god awful british literature book)
19:29 < katsmeow-afk> wit the skitoe zapping laser
19:33 < gene> oh
19:34 < gene> well a book doesn't create a buzz noise so it won't get targeted with a laser.(hopefully)
19:36 < katsmeow-afk> but the part of th ebeam that does not hit th emosquito will fly by and hit the stuff in the background
19:37 < gene> yeah
19:37 < gene> I guess it might be impractical
20:04 < kanzure> hm, a captured cell array made from a CD stamp
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22:04 < kanzure> hm, an interesting way to retrieve a bibliography of papers that I already have archived:
22:04 < kanzure> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=site%3Aheybryan.org&btnG=Search&num=100&hl=en&lr=
22:10 < kanzure> hm.
22:11 < kanzure> ah, nevermind
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23:42 < kanzure> fenn: a friend called from australia, he suggested I pack my bags and fly to the bay area
23:42 < kanzure> to get as far away from mom as possible
23:42 < kanzure> :)
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