--- Day changed Sun Mar 22 2009 00:03 * kanzure_ sleeps 00:03 < meoblast001> i am so confused 00:05 < gene> it's ok to be confused 01:28 -!- gene [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-182-222.public.utexas.edu] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"] 02:41 -!- meoblast001 [n=meoblast@dynamic-acs-24-101-148-112.zoominternet.net] has quit ["meoquit"] 06:16 -!- elias` [n=me@194.81.255.254] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:21 < kanzure_> hm, evince 2.24.1 crashes while displaying the third page of the 'thermodynamic analysis of resources used in manufacturing processes' paper. 09:21 < kanzure_> The resolution, effective immediately after it was passed on Wednesday, 09:21 < kanzure_> erm, wrong paste 09:21 < kanzure_> makes MIT the first university to commit to making its faculty’s research 09:21 < kanzure_> papers publicly available. Though the School of Education at Stanford and 09:21 < kanzure_> several departments at Harvard have already adopted these policies, MIT is 09:21 < kanzure_> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Thermodynamic%20Analysis%20of%20Resources%20Used%20in%20Manufacturing%20Processes%20-%20Gutowski%20-%202009.pdf 09:22 * kanzure_ tries xpdf 09:23 < kanzure_> works. hrm. 09:25 < kanzure_> interesting, "prtscrn" on ubuntu intrepid ibex preserves the mouse buffer state. 10:21 < kanzure_> fenn: I don't mean to bogg us down with more Marc Fawzi, but he's reverted to posting on Michel's p2presearch mailing list 10:21 < kanzure_> so he's still holding various discussions about "The meaning of Open" and making comments about how OM isn't open, or somethin g 10:21 < kanzure_> and it's very obvious now that many of these people are talking about things purely from a "social commentary" perspective 10:21 < kanzure_> I don't think any of them actually know why the tools that GNU is built around are so useful. 10:22 < kanzure_> it's as if they just think it's all social argument.. 10:22 < kanzure_> I don't know how to show people how that isn't the case, but I'm also not interested in fighting that particular battle with them 10:58 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@pool-173-48-214-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 11:07 < kanzure_> hm, reading the cosmic-engineers mailing list, somebody is yelling at them for always wanting to retreat to simulations 11:07 < kanzure_> "There's no way around it, you need to be able to take care of yourself!" 11:20 < kanzure_> ("strategies to prevent total system failure" + "you need to be able to take care of yourself" (dependencies, dependency resolution)) is an interesting combination, might make for an effective way to present various arguments.. 11:21 < kanzure_> + careful thinking 12:44 -!- kanzure_ [n=bryan@user-0vvd95g.cable.mindspring.com] has quit ["leaving"] 15:31 -!- gene [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-175-60.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- gene [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-175-60.public.utexas.edu] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.7/2009021910]"] 16:03 < kanzure> hm, I think 'fynn' in #python is a poor disguise for 'fenn' 16:05 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:16 -!- drazak [n=drazak@drazak.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:17 < drazak> fenn: I dunno brain, I thought we talked about fruit loops every night! 16:19 < kanzure> narf 16:22 < fenn> gosh that was weird 16:22 < fenn> search for "shizuo" http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/2009-03-22.txt --- Log opened Sun Mar 22 17:14:07 2009 17:14 -!- kanzure [i=bryan@66.112.232.233] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:14 -!- Irssi: #hplusroadmap: Total of 16 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 17:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #hplusroadmap was synced in 1 secs 17:14 < kanzure> Hello. 17:15 < kanzure> I have lost two giant 21" CRTs. 17:15 < bkero> Show hitler is the cube root of hitlerhitler 17:15 < bkero> kanzure: gg, now you have less the cancer 17:15 < kanzure> but have gained 1920x1080 in screen resolution. 17:15 < kanzure> bkero: Not sure it works like that :( 17:15 < bkero> kanzure: http://staff.osuosl.org/~bkero/newmonitor.jpg 17:16 < drazak> kanzure: 17:16 < drazak> kanzure: what tests are you interested in seeing on LOAC 17:16 < kanzure> fuck you. 17:16 < drazak> bkero: something I've been wondering 17:16 < kanzure> drazak: Many, many things. 17:16 < drazak> bkero: is how the fuck inc got an osuosl 17:16 < bkero> ? 17:16 < kanzure> drazak: PCR, DNA synthesis, DNA sequencing, mass spec, filtration/separation, .. 17:17 < drazak> bkero: inc has a hostmask at osuosl.org 17:17 < bkero> Oh 17:17 < drazak> bkero: does he go there? 17:17 < kanzure> I'll have to wait until I get a few more flat screens I guess 17:17 < kanzure> man I'm cheap. 17:17 < kanzure> how was I possibly living with CRTs? 17:17 < bkero> drazak: He has an enlightenment handle 17:17 < kanzure> fenn: there's still one CRT left that may or may not work (possibly a pin issue- it was on for a month without use, and then after which it didn't work too well and I haven't fiddled with it) 17:17 < bkero> Er, an enlightenment hostmask 17:18 < bkero> 22:13 [freenode] -!- Inc [i=inc@enlightenment/developer/inc] 17:18 < drazak> not on other servers 17:18 < bkero> We host enlightenment. 17:18 < kanzure> bwahaha 17:18 < drazak> ah 17:18 < bkero> So he might be using an irssi client from his colo'd box. 17:18 < drazak> bkero: yeah, maybe 17:19 < drazak> bkero: are you morally or legally against fucking with him once in awhile? :D 17:19 < bkero> Dunno, why? 17:19 < drazak> he's an ass to some people 17:19 < kanzure> drazak: Did you read the sharpie microfluidics thread on diybio? 17:19 < drazak> kanzure: dna synthesis, hm 17:19 < drazak> not yet 17:19 < kanzure> drazak: yes, I have some papers on that 17:19 < kanzure> one moment 17:19 < drazak> I haven't read diybio in awhile 17:19 < kanzure> this is amazing, I have screen real estate now 17:20 < bkero> Hasn't been an ass to me, but yea. Enlightenment. Those people treat clueless users like assboats. 17:20 < kanzure> I can host a condominium on this thing 17:20 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/microfluidics/synthesis/ 17:20 < kanzure> those are some papers on DNA synthesizers on microfluidic chips 17:20 < drazak> bkero: we have the same wallet :P 17:20 < drazak> kanzure: haha, I might get to meet venter 17:21 < bkero> drazak: What does yours say on the other side? 17:21 < kanzure> drazak: I've met many people who have met Venter. Please feel free to rant about how awesome I am to him. 17:21 < drazak> kanzure: haha 17:21 < drazak> kanzure: you're only sort of awesome 17:21 < kanzure> I see how it is 17:21 < kanzure> fine 17:21 < drazak> kanzure: you'd be more awesome if you were 16 and thinking about it 17:21 < drazak> :P 17:21 < drazak> like me 17:21 < kanzure> drazak: I know, I'm so damn old :( 17:21 * bkero is 22. 17:21 * bkero olds. 17:24 * drazak is young 17:24 * bkero has become more badass with time. 17:25 * drazak is simply badass 17:26 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:26 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 17:27 < bkero> I was a stupendous badass when I was younger. Now I'm moreso. 17:27 < kanzure> what you're all forgetting is that I'm the best. 17:27 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:27 < gene_> kanzure I think it's time for you to start looking into DUAL SCREEN WALLPAPERS 17:28 < bkero> Nobody makes triple screen(with 2 rotated) wallpapers. Makes me :( 17:28 < gene_> wanna bet? 17:29 < bkero> Find some 4660x1600 wallpapers 17:29 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:29 < kanzure> how do I change irssi nick highlighting colors? 17:29 < gene_> don't ask me I don't really have any good walls 17:29 < drazak> kanzure: /hilight 17:30 < bkero> I really wish I had 2 4:3 ratio monitors to go with my main one. I have 80 extra pixels of vertical on the sides :( 17:30 < kanzure> it automatically highlights the nickname, is this a setting somewhere for the specific color? 17:30 < drazak> kanzure: uhmmmm 17:30 < drazak> /set something 17:31 < bkero> /hilight -color blue pooping 17:32 < bkero> There's a more complex way to match a standard regex too 17:32 < drazak> yeah 17:32 < drazak> that sounds right 17:32 < drazak> I dun remember anymore 17:32 < kanzure> kanzure: 17:32 < kanzure> hrm. 17:32 < kanzure> it probably doesn't highlight myself. 17:32 < drazak> kanzure: 17:32 < kanzure> still yellow. 17:34 < drazak> kanzure: do you have anything on PCA? 17:35 < kanzure> the plastic? 17:35 < kanzure> or do you mean PCR? 17:35 < drazak> polymerase construction and assemplificiation 17:36 < kanzure> hrm 17:36 < kanzure> no, should I know what this is about? 17:36 < kanzure> it doesn't seem very googleable 17:36 < drazak> that's how [ ]Synthesis - Parallel gene synthesis in a microfluidic device (1 kb, but parallelizable) - CBA.pdf works 17:37 < drazak> and I don't understand it at all 17:37 < kanzure> give me one moment, I'm handing a part off to gene_ downstairs 17:42 < kanzure> okay, back 17:43 < kanzure> will read over that, I don't entirely remember it 17:44 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:44 < bkero> <3 bitlbee http://bugs.bitlbee.org/bitlbee/chrome/site/BitlBee_gheghe.png 17:44 < kanzure> oh 17:45 < kanzure> drazak: that's probably polymerase-based DNA synthesis 17:45 < kanzure> template-less polymerase. 17:45 < kanzure> 'single step assembly of a gene and entire plasmid from large numbers of oligonucleotides' 17:46 < kanzure> I think I have that paper already (ref. 10) 17:47 < kanzure> nope, nevermind 17:50 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/top_posting.txt <-- haha 17:51 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:51 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- gene_ [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-175-60.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:56 -!- gene [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-175-60.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:59 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pysanka "A pysanka (Ukrainian: писанка, plural: pysanky) is a Ukrainian Easter egg, decorated using a wax-resist (batik) method. The word comes from the verb pysaty, "to write", as the designs are not painted on, but written with beeswax." 17:59 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:59 < kanzure> those are some rather intricate designs for wax.. 17:59 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batik 18:03 < kanzure> is paraffin wax common? I remember it being used somewhere about something somewhere, perhaps in high school? 18:07 < drazak> candles 18:07 < drazak> you can get a good chunk of it for cheap 18:07 < kanzure> looks like it's available in grocery stores since it's used for cooking 18:07 < drazak> small quantities and more expensive 18:11 < gene> kanzure check the coop art store 18:11 < gene> I think they might sell stuff like that 18:11 < drazak> prolly do 18:12 < gene> maybe that's how the soviets made microchips... 18:13 < gene> anyone here run boinc? 18:13 < gene> if you don't I strongly encourage you to 18:15 < kanzure> blah 18:15 < kanzure> have you seen transhumanism@home? 18:15 < kanzure> it's a list of transhumanist BOINC teams 18:15 < kanzure> I suggest you peruse it 18:15 < kanzure> but I have better things to be running my processors on 18:18 -!- wrldpc_ [n=worldpea@c-98-217-161-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-166-23.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:35 < gene> like? 18:35 < wrldpc_> It's my birthday and I'll fly if I want to. Fly if I want to. Fly if I want to. ... 18:36 < samrose> I am interested in BOINC 18:36 < gene> http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/team_display.php?teamid=371 19:13 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:31 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:46 < gene> http://www.physorg.com/news156953933.html 19:46 < gene> sequencing 19:47 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:48 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:53 -!- wrldpc_ [n=worldpea@c-98-217-161-149.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 20:03 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@adsl-75-36-167-24.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:09 -!- ybit [n=heath@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-193-207.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 21:00 < katsmeow-afk> http://www.statepolicyindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/freedom-in-the-50-states-an-index-of-personal-and-economic-freedom-by-ruger-and-sorens.pdf 21:18 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@adsl-75-36-167-24.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:29 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:33 < kanzure> gene: huh, it's not nanopore sequencing 21:33 < kanzure> could have fooled me. 21:37 < kanzure> argh, I hate this shit 21:37 < kanzure> http://www.physorg.com/news156953933.html 21:38 < kanzure> says "Nature Nanotechnology Letters" and "Stuart Lindsay" 21:38 < kanzure> but if you go search the Nature Nanotechnology Letters site with their custom search form, "Stuart Lindsay" brings up absolutely nothing 21:38 < kanzure> what the hell? 21:38 < kanzure> why don't they give proper citations? 21:40 < kanzure> huh, Stuart Lindsay has done some work on nanopore sequencing. go figure. 21:41 < kanzure> " 21:41 < kanzure> DNA base pairs are held together by hydrogen bonds. It has now been shown that a scanning tunnelling microscope can be used to measure the strength of hydrogen bonding in such base pairs. These results provide a basis for new types of electronic biosensors and chemosensors." 21:42 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Tunnelling%20readout%20of%20hydrogen-bonding-based%20recognition.pdf 21:46 < kanzure> yep, STM-based sequencing (or in this case, AFM, but whatever- it was a current with respect to a distance, same thing) 21:48 < gene> hasn't been published yet 22:52 < wrldpc> What's wrong with delicious as a means to corral links? 23:07 < bkero> delicious is dirty dirty 23:21 < kanzure> bookmarks are meant for your hard drive 23:21 < kanzure> (and *then* to be uploaded) 23:23 -!- tarbo2 [n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:33 -!- willPow3r [n=will@cpe-66-75-6-181.san.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:38 -!- tarbo2 [n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@c-98-217-193-207.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 23:50 -!- xoqa [n=heath@c-71-207-247-209.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 23:51 -!- xoqa [n=heath@c-71-207-247-209.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection]