--- Day changed Fri May 08 2009 00:04 -!- kardan__i [n=kardan@240.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:11 -!- dizt [n=duzt@dsl093-216-054.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:20 -!- genehacker_ [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-98-131.public.utexas.edu] has joined #hplusroadmap 00:27 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-98-131.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:31 < kanzure-> hm. I need a way to make a super-high velocity water drop. say, 300 m/sec. 00:36 < kanzure-> converted air rifle? 00:37 < kanzure-> 12 drops of water per minute? wtf is this nonsense. 00:38 < kanzure-> heh. it's just a rifle in a tetrahedral space frame. 00:48 < genehacker_> why? 00:48 < kanzure-> "Micromachining single crystal materials using a tetrahedral space frame machining centre 00:48 < kanzure-> " 00:48 < genehacker_> sauce? 00:50 < genehacker_> perhaps you could build a water gun os some sorf 00:50 < genehacker_> link? 00:51 < kanzure-> don't have access. 01:05 < genehacker_> yeah me neither 01:05 < genehacker_> and I'm on the campus 01:08 < genehacker_> mind explaining the droplets moving very fast part? 01:12 < kanzure-> "I know, still a little slow, but wait until I put on the big blade" 01:13 < kanzure-> is there any context in which that sentence makes sense? 01:13 < kanzure-> because I'm fairly certain something would be slower with a larger blade 01:13 < kanzure-> (the blades are circular) 01:13 < kanzure-> genehacker_: it's just a pulsed water jet cutter 01:13 < genehacker_> some anime? 01:14 < kanzure-> by ridiculously high speed water drop impact 01:14 < genehacker_> cool 01:14 < kanzure-> nope, not anime :( 01:14 < genehacker_> ??? 01:15 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@dsl092-008-180.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:03 -!- kardan [n=kardan@240.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- kardan is now known as Guest72577 02:04 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@pool-173-48-214-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 02:14 < genehacker_> http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/08/0344248 02:15 < genehacker_> look what made slashdot? 02:23 -!- Guest72577 [n=kardan@240.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:45 -!- dizt [n=duzt@dsl093-216-054.aus1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:55 -!- kardan [n=kardan@240.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 06:56 -!- kardan is now known as Guest52406 07:08 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@240.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 07:23 -!- Guest52406 [n=kardan@240.106.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:37 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@240.121.113.82.net.de.o2.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:25 -!- genehacker_ [n=chatzill@wireless-128-62-98-131.public.utexas.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 08:56 -!- Netsplit card.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: I}ruid, cis-action, UtopiahGHML 08:58 -!- UtopiahGHML [n=libre@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- cis-action [n=cis-acti@146-115-127-170.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- samrose [n=samrose@99.147.180.206] has joined #hplusroadmap 10:54 < kanzure-> cis-action: are you serious 10:55 < cis-action> ... 10:55 < kanzure-> mindlessly chanting oaths is not what we need 10:55 < kanzure-> we need real, effective safety protocols, not bullshit 10:55 < kanzure-> "do not ingest hydrogen peroxide" > "do no harm" 10:55 < cis-action> you think we have unsafe protocols right now? 10:55 < kanzure-> we have no protocols :( 10:56 < kanzure-> there's pcr.xml, but whatever 11:00 < cis-action> Reality vs. perception of reality. We need to be safe and seem safe. pcr.xml is going to go way over most people's heads. Besides, it has like 3 research topics rolled up into it as well. We need dependable, demonstrable safety, as well as cutting-edge, early-adopter research-project safety. 11:01 < kanzure-> what does that have to do with anything 11:01 < kanzure-> have you already forgotten about the protocol-xml-to-english-readable-text translators? 11:01 < cis-action> ha ha ha. 11:01 < cis-action> you're talking to me. 11:02 < cis-action> I'm not the audience, you idiot. 11:02 < cis-action> "no man is an island" etc. etc. 11:02 < kanzure-> I just feel like nobody is listening or understanding 11:02 < kanzure-> what? 11:02 < kanzure-> you *are* the audience. you claim that Zach's essay was useful, or something 11:02 < kanzure-> but it wasn't.. except for maybe the citations, but who cares? that could have been given as a bibliography without a crap waste of time essay attached 11:03 < cis-action> We are going to get legislated out of existence by the rest of society if stuff like pcr.xml is our only response to the safety question. 11:03 < kanzure-> would you say the same thing if pcr.xml is used to automatically generate instruction manuals 11:04 < cis-action> "Oh yeah, we're safe. We invented a whole new safety paradigm. It's years ahead of the obsolete safety protocols used in traditional labs. No need for you to worry, Mr. Citizen." 11:04 < kanzure-> and an oath will make people feel better? now who's laughing 11:04 < cis-action> I'm not saying it's not a good idea. I think it's a great idea. But we need more. 11:04 < cis-action> yes! you think it's stupid but it's true. 11:04 < kanzure-> because it is stupid. 11:05 < kanzure-> it has absolutely nothing to do with progress 11:05 < kanzure-> and it has so far wasted a large portion of your time 11:06 < kanzure-> ok, let's put it this way 11:06 < kanzure-> you spend 2000 hours crafting an oath or something 11:06 < kanzure-> versus spending 20 hours crafting safety protocols and ways to make sure people aren't going to do stupid things without knowing it 11:07 < kanzure-> those 2000 hours might feel like they are being productive 11:07 < kanzure-> but meanwhile people are dying because they are idiots 11:07 < kanzure-> and because their software sucks or something 11:07 < kanzure-> how "ethical" or "moral" is *that* 11:08 < cis-action> 1. Stop being so dramatic. That's not a realistic description of the situation. No one is dying, and the risk of serious injury seems really low right now. 11:09 < cis-action> 2. you lead the crusade to get your machine-readable safety ontology used in 10 labs and then I think you have the beginnings of a point 11:09 < kanzure-> people aren't dying because they aren't doing stupid things 11:09 < kanzure-> but once you have a million different protocols online 11:10 < cis-action> 3. I'm not planning on writing a creed. Hopefully someone else will. I just am trying to defend the general idea because I believe it's important to our relationship with the rest of society. 11:10 < kanzure-> *you* try implementing effective safety measures into them "after the fact" 11:10 < cis-action> yes, well, as you said already, we have 0 protocols. Let's work hand-in-hand doing the safety markup on the first one. 11:11 < cis-action> I'm actually excited about that. 11:11 < kanzure-> yeah, instead of wasting time on writing lengthy essays 11:11 < cis-action> bah, it was shorter than most of your emails. 11:11 < kanzure-> most of my emails are not about ethics/morals ;-) 11:12 < cis-action> You are acting like the stereotypical autistic engineer, hackles raised by talk of humanities students. 11:13 < kanzure-> that was a freaking *engineer* who wrote the essay :( 11:15 < kanzure-> I don't know what it would take to convince you people that humanities is not the way to do engineering 11:26 < kanzure-> ok. I'm done ranting. 11:35 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@dslb-094-223-193-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:45 -!- fenn_ [n=fenn@cpe-72-177-52-180.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:48 -!- jm|space [n=jm@p57B9CEEA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:55 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@dslb-094-223-193-248.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:57 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@dslb-094-223-219-030.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 11:59 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:03 -!- fenn [n=fenn@cpe-72-177-52-180.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:05 -!- fenn_ is now known as fenn 12:06 -!- jm|afk [n=jm@p57B9E5DD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:25 < kanzure-> has anyone seen a MEMS rocket yet? either an array of micropropulsion thruster thingies. just wondering why these aren't more popular for rocket enthusiasts. 12:25 < kanzure-> there are some for nanosatellites, but I was hoping for something in the atmosphere 12:25 < kanzure-> there are micro aerial vehicles, but they have flapping wings (wtf) 12:30 < xp_prg> what is a MEMS rocket? 12:33 < kanzure-> cis-action: have you joined the papers mailing list yet? 12:34 < cis-action> Hmm, I don't think I have. 12:34 < kanzure-> cis-action: it's like getarticles except for discussing papers that you happen to be reading 12:34 < cis-action> oh neat 12:35 < cis-action> I'm interested. 12:35 < kanzure-> I posted a link to diybio and getarticles btw. 12:35 < kanzure-> cis-action: http://postbiota.org/mailman/listinfo/papers 12:36 < fenn> i was always skeptical of tiny arrays of rockets 12:37 < fenn> it just doesnt seem like it could possibly be as efficient as one big rocket 12:37 < fenn> er, arrays of tiny rockets 12:38 < cis-action> hey wait a second, this mailing list is just messages from you, bryan. 12:39 < kanzure-> eugen leitl posts sometimes. 12:39 < kanzure-> there are also a few other subscribers 12:40 < kanzure-> fenn: I should just go do the math, but really I think the ratios should still work 12:40 < cis-action> ok 12:40 < kanzure-> for a liquid propellant, it should still be able to have a giant tank on board 12:40 < kanzure-> (relatively giant) 12:41 < kanzure-> cis-action: still need the pyrosequencing paper? 12:41 < cis-action> why another mailing list and not a group on citeulike or mendeley? 12:41 < cis-action> yeah 12:41 < kanzure-> mendeley crashes when you import more than 10,000 papers 12:42 < cis-action> oh 12:42 < cis-action> Yeah I haven't been that impressed 12:42 < kanzure-> as for citeulike, I actually recently registered 12:42 < kanzure-> and have put some references on there. 12:42 < kanzure-> not too impressed with the groups already there though 12:42 < kanzure-> seems underused or something? 12:42 < cis-action> ha ha so does the Papers mailing list 12:42 < kanzure-> well, that's certainly true 12:43 < kanzure-> metagenomics pyrosequencing: http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Metagenomic%20pyrosequencing%20and%20microbial%20identification.pdf 12:43 < cis-action> ok, I will try posting the next couple of papers I read to both Papers and to a citeulike group 12:43 < cis-action> thanks 12:43 < kanzure-> feel free to invite me on citeulike to a group or whatever 12:43 < kanzure-> or send me a link. 12:43 < cis-action> will do. 12:43 < cis-action> btw the Urine DNA sequencing paper is fascinating 12:44 < cis-action> I want a sequencer in my toilet. 12:44 < kanzure-> heh 12:44 < kanzure-> did you read it? 12:44 < kanzure-> they injected DNA into blood and some mice pissed it out 12:44 < cis-action> just the first page, including abstract 12:44 < kanzure-> there was another paper from a while back 12:44 < cis-action> 0.06% 12:44 < kanzure-> where they used a bladder as a bioreactor 12:46 < cis-action> So, about the sequencing paper... I am interested in just bootstrapping Jason's BioWeatherMap project and trying to do direct sequencing off of some sample I grab 12:46 < kanzure-> have you considered direct electronic identification of nucleotides? 12:46 < kanzure-> i.e., building the AFM machine and sequencing DNA by detecting the force of different nucleotides 12:47 < cis-action> I'm trying to figure out how I need to prepare a sample and what I should be sequencing. Everyone says 16s ribosomal dna and I have no idea there are better options. 12:47 < kanzure-> no idea there are 12:47 < kanzure-> what? 12:47 < kanzure-> 45 MB file of DNA sequencing papers & bibtex: http://heybryan.org/books/papers/bibliographies/DNA%20sequencing.tar.gz 12:47 < cis-action> ...no idea *if* there are better options (genomically). 12:47 < cis-action> we should collaborate. I'll get and prepare the samples, and you build an AFM and do the single-molecule sequencing 12:48 < kanzure-> haha 12:48 < kanzure-> would you pay for it? 12:48 < cis-action> thanks 12:48 < cis-action> hmmm 12:48 < kanzure-> STM DNA sequencing bibliography: http://heybryan.org/books/papers/bibliographies/STM-DNA-sequencing.bib 12:48 < cis-action> it depends on the budget, really, and if you would document the construction instructions at the same time 12:48 < kanzure-> STM DNA IETS sequencing bibliography: http://heybryan.org/books/papers/bibliographies/STM-DNA-sequencing-IETS.bib 12:48 < kanzure-> I don't have a full estimate of how much it would cost, but if you think there's a chance that we could drum up some funding to build a diy afm, that would be great 12:49 < kanzure-> the big price factor is going to be the plastic parts 12:49 < kanzure-> which can be uploaded to ponoko and we can check how much they would cost to be built 12:49 < kanzure-> or I might be able to print them for free at school here 12:49 < cis-action> for sure 12:49 < cis-action> I bet as a community we could raise $1k 12:50 < cis-action> yeah I have access to a fablab here and I could laser cut stuff there 12:50 < kanzure-> the trick is figuring out if AFM can do DNA sequencing. STM can, but AFM hasn't been used extensively for these purposes in the literature. 12:51 < kanzure-> Progress in sequencing DNA with AFM http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Progress%20in%20sequencing%20DNA%20with%20an%20AFM.pdf 12:51 < kanzure-> that was from 1990 though 12:51 < kanzure-> almost as old as I am .. 12:54 < wrldpc> what's up with broderick on GRG? 12:54 < wrldpc> sheesh 12:55 < kanzure-> damien? 12:55 < wrldpc> aye 12:55 < kanzure-> I haven't been reading his emails, what's up? 12:57 < fenn> 'big price factor is going to be the plastic parts' you gotta be kidding 12:57 < cis-action> kanzure: http://diybio.chipin.com/diy-afm-dna-sequencer 12:57 < kanzure-> the rest was like nuts and bolts 12:57 < wrldpc> He brought up this point that I thought had died ages ago regarding Aubrey and Cambridge. Just creating more bullshit chatter and distracting people away from discussing the science. 12:58 < cis-action> of course... we could just put the money towards a commercial sequencing budget. 12:58 < wrldpc> It's like when no one has something substantive to contribute they resort to some kind of trite philosophical or political point. 12:58 < kanzure-> cis-action: yes. that's why I suggested the community nominations for sequencing or something. or even just SNP stuff via 23andme. 12:58 < wrldpc> Really annoying. Then when I call him on it the moderator of the group sides with him exhibiting the same "institutional bias" that got Aubrey fired in the fucking first place. 12:58 < kanzure-> wrldpc: damien doesn't seem to be too important. ignore him. 12:59 < wrldpc> k 12:59 < kanzure-> GRG is very academic-oriented. they all secretly hate Aubrey or something. 12:59 < wrldpc> aye 13:10 < kanzure-> cis-action: but really, what about the 23andme community nominations idea? 13:10 < cis-action> how would it work? I mean, what does it have to do with 23andMe? 13:11 < kanzure-> it was suggested in the thread where somebody mentioned a company was going to do free sequencing of a whole genome 13:11 < kanzure-> and instead, we were thinking of doing SNP analysis for some member of the diybio community 13:12 < kanzure-> by pooling together 'lottery money' 13:12 < kanzure-> even though it's not very DIY :( 13:19 -!- cis-action is now known as has100ideas 13:20 -!- has100ideas is now known as I00ideas 13:20 < kanzure-> eh? 13:20 -!- I00ideas is now known as l00ideas 13:21 -!- l00ideas is now known as cis-action 13:25 -!- wrldpc [n=worldpea@pool-173-48-214-204.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 13:25 -!- samrose [n=samrose@99.147.180.206] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:48 < kanzure-> not that anybody cares, but 13:48 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/AFM-DNA-sequencing/ 13:51 < kanzure-> sequencing by hybridization. hrm. 14:09 < kanzure-> wasn't there some paper about using an AFM tip to pop off a nucleotide from the DNA stack or something? mechanical separation, or some such 14:17 < fenn> that sounds highly unlikely to work even if someone wrote a paper about it 14:18 < kanzure-> ah, it was just denaturation via mechanical force :( 14:18 < kanzure-> er, separating of complementary strands 14:36 -!- cis-action is now known as macowell 14:36 -!- macowell is now known as cis-action 15:13 < kanzure-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microfluidic_Sanger_Sequencing 15:14 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:16 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Microfabricated%20bioprocessor%20for%20integrated%20nanoliter-scale%20Sanger%20DNA%20sequencing.pdf 15:17 < kanzure-> microfluidic system for Sanger-method DNA sequencing 15:17 < kanzure-> includes some nice diagrams of their design 15:23 -!- hivemind-sb [n=supybot@rps7452.ovh.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- hivemind-sb [n=supybot@rps7452.ovh.net] has left #hplusroadmap ["UtopiahGHML"] 15:50 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:17 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:28 -!- PeerInfinity [n=someone@216.36.180.162] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:34 < kanzure-> Eco International E-Recycling Drive tomorrow at 2 pm - 6 pm here in Austin. might want to go by to pick up some junk. 17:41 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@dslb-094-223-219-030.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:46 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@dslb-094-223-202-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:47 < fenn> you sure that wasn't last saturday? 17:49 < kanzure-> was announced on television, so maybe there will be people hanging around the spot with stuff to drop off 17:50 < fenn> where? 17:53 < fenn> this monitor can't decide if it's broken or not 17:56 < kanzure-> can't find it. 18:14 < fenn> sweet campbell hired me 18:14 < fenn> june 1 to august 17 18:15 < fenn> great time to be in texas eh :P 18:16 < kanzure-> your whole migration thing is kind of fucked up 18:16 < kanzure-> you're like a bird with brain damage 18:16 < kanzure-> anyway, congratulations 18:17 < fenn> heh 18:17 < kanzure-> will he pay you 18:17 < fenn> $13/hr 18:18 < kanzure-> so if you want to cover a portion of rent or something, that would be neat 18:18 < fenn> yeah 18:55 < kanzure-> hm. bacteriophages have an internal pressure of 50 atm. 18:59 < fenn> wow 19:11 < kanzure-> the addition of a sequence of nine arginine residues to a protein makes it bind to silicon surfaces. O.o 19:11 < kanzure-> or just use the bacteria ribosomal protein L2. hm. 19:12 < kanzure-> I wonder if that works for sand too. 19:15 -!- samrose [n=samrose@c-24-11-214-181.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:25 < kanzure-> fenn: hm. the hours he's offering me during the summer is somewhat lower than what I was anticipating. my funds are going to be a little tight. (sata gave me some weird hours too, so not everything is quite matching up) 19:27 < kanzure-> posted some abstracts: http://heybryan.org/mediawiki/index.php/Virus 19:33 -!- PeerInfinity [n=someone@216.36.180.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:40 -!- PeerInfinity [n=someone@216.36.180.162] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:43 < kanzure-> er, this is kind of hard to search for 19:44 < kanzure-> what does the 'position' function in lisp do? 20:02 < fenn> If the sequence contains an element satisfying the test, then the index within the sequence of the leftmost such element is returned as a non-negative integer; otherwise nil is returned. 20:06 < kanzure-> any thoughts on making clisp tell me the line number of an error? -v doesn't do the trick. 20:56 < drazak> no offense 20:56 < drazak> but do any of you have girlfriends? 20:57 < kanzure-> not anymore. 20:58 < drazak> mhm 21:03 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@99.2.31.217] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:06 < jm|space> i have robots, if that counts 21:07 < jm|space> why do you ask? do you need one? 21:07 < kanzure-> mom wants to buy me this: http://austin.craigslist.org/fuo/1140266244.html 21:08 < drazak> jm|space: no, I have one 21:08 < kanzure-> so certain are you. 21:11 < kanzure-> these clisp restarts are useless. they don't tell you context. 21:11 < kanzure-> "oops, the value you entered for that variable was of the wrong type but I didn't tell you what type of the variable was to begin with, so ha ha!" 21:11 < kanzure-> "(and you can't go back because that's not an option)" 21:19 < fenn> um isnt the point of the restart that you can go back? 21:21 < kanzure-> there's an ABORT. 21:22 < kanzure-> hm. sbcl has much more detailed output about what's going wrong with the script. lots of undefined variables floating around. 21:37 < kanzure-> fenn: did albert ever send you the source yet 21:38 < kanzure-> why can't we do this with our fablab? http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/doing-davinci/doing-davinci.html 21:38 < kanzure-> getting funding for making all of davinci's inventions? please please please 21:42 < kanzure-> "I AM SICKENED BY YOUR WEAKNESS" is one of the t-shirts the guys wear. heh. 21:54 < drazak> kanzure-: have you thought much about H1N1? 21:59 < kanzure-> no. but I have been feasting off of Superkuh's previous work being anxious about H1N1. 22:00 < drazak> well 22:01 < drazak> I'm thinking of working out how well tamiflu will work on it 22:01 < drazak> as my project for tonight 22:02 < kanzure-> did you see my post to diybio about the synthesis of oseltamivir? 22:02 < drazak> missed it 22:02 < drazak> I've been busy 22:02 < kanzure-> you might want to look at it :) 22:02 < drazak> I need to get my moleskin notebook in a sec 22:02 < drazak> to quote 'stuff white people like' "it's where we write all of our really great ideas" 22:04 < drazak> we need more neuraminidase inhibitor class drugs 22:06 < drazak> having only two makes the ability for the virus to mutate to immunity very likely, espescially if we have pandemonic panic and start injecting people with drugs 22:08 < drazak> I also need to find out how the flu virus is fought off by the immune system 22:08 < drazak> kanzure-: do you have books on immunology? 22:08 < kanzure-> antibodies 22:08 < kanzure-> on the server 22:08 < drazak> well no shit sherlock 22:09 < kanzure-> heybryan.org/books/Medical/ 22:09 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/ 22:09 < drazak> yah already there 22:10 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/Medicine%20-%20Fundamental%20Immunology%205th%20Edition%20-%20William%20E.%20Paul%20-%202003.pdf 22:10 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/Medicine%20-%20Microbiology%20Immunology%202005.pdf 22:10 < drazak> already downloading the first one 22:10 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/Medicine%20-%20%5bIsilo%20Book%20-%20Medicine%5d%20Adelman%20-%20Manual%20of%20Allergy%20and%20Immunology%20Diagnosis%20and%20Therapy%204th%20ed.rar 22:10 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/USMLE%20-%20Biochemistry,%20Immunology,%20Microbiology%20-%20USMLE%20Lecture%20Notes%20%5bKaplan%5d.pdf 22:11 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/Medical/Medicine%20-%20Pathology%20-%20Robbins%20Pathologic%20Basis%20Of%20Disease%207ed%20(eBook).pdf 22:11 < kanzure-> ack, firefox crashed. why am I using firefox. 22:11 < drazak> is all good 22:11 < drazak> I have the pathology one on my other laptop 22:12 < drazak> there's chemical synthesis of oseltamivir on wikipedia now 22:16 < kanzure-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseltamivir_total_synthesis 22:16 < kanzure-> nice. 22:17 < drazak> yup 22:59 < katsmeow-afk> omd, it's 56megabytes 22:59 < drazak> mhm 23:01 < katsmeow-afk> kanzure, are you on dialup?! 23:01 < drazak> katsmeow-afk: he's not 23:02 < katsmeow-afk> hmm, i am getting only 22ks from him 23:06 -!- katsmeow-afk is now known as katsmeow 23:18 < kanzure-> katsmeow: what do you want? 23:18 < kanzure-> er, or if you know of a good proxy for me to install on a faster server, .. 23:19 < drazak> kanzure-: I have a faster server if you need it 23:19 < kanzure-> I do too.. 23:19 < kanzure-> my outgoing connection sucks, but not if I am out going to the university 23:19 < kanzure-> so I just need to install a good proxy server on one of my machines 23:19 < kanzure-> unfortunately there are no proxypass tutorials left on the web anymore (wtf) 23:19 < katsmeow> a proxy on a faster server wouldn't help you unless it cached for a long while 23:20 < kanzure-> yes it would 23:20 < kanzure-> I have 10 MB/sec back and forth to that server 23:20 < kanzure-> (to multiple servers actually) 23:20 < katsmeow> then why do you need the proxy? 23:21 < kanzure-> because you're getting dialup speeds 23:21 < kanzure-> and I'm a nice guy? 23:21 < katsmeow> oh 23:22 < katsmeow> well, i won't be pushy, i can throttle back my fetch rate if it helps 23:22 < kanzure-> it doesn't 23:22 < katsmeow> k 23:23 < katsmeow> i was interested in just the one book 23:26 < kanzure-> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html 23:28 < kanzure-> ok 23:28 < kanzure-> http://adl.serveftp.org/heybryan/papers/ 23:28 -!- kanzure- changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: taking over world, etc. etc. fast download of paper dump: http://adl.serveftp.org/heybryan/papers/ 23:29 < kanzure-> can someone tell me how that is? please? 23:31 < katsmeow> gimme to min to finsh the dl still going 23:35 < katsmeow> woo, bloody well faster 23:35 < katsmeow> 9x faster 23:36 < kanzure-> have fun. 23:36 < katsmeow> /books/ is there? 23:37 < kanzure-> yes. /heybryan/ is /books/ basically. 23:37 < katsmeow> ah 23:45 < kanzure-> heh that's right I have all of these aptamer protocols I took from ellington 23:45 < kanzure-> I should probably make some sort of use of this .. 23:47 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/ellingtonlab/A_E-Lab_Stuff/Lab%20Talks/Tech%20Talks/ 23:52 < kanzure-> http://heybryan.org/books/ellingtonlab/Lord_Vader_stuff/grades.txt 23:52 < kanzure-> Levy, Matthew \t 103 23:52 < kanzure-> bah 23:52 < kanzure-> (Levy was his favorite phd postdoc guy) 23:55 < kanzure-> artificial self-replicating system? http://heybryan.org/books/ellingtonlab/Lord_Vader_stuff/puppy3.jpg 23:56 < kanzure-> self-replication by condensation http://heybryan.org/books/ellingtonlab/Lord_Vader_stuff/puppy4.jpg