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00:38 < katsmeow-afk> iron inside carbon nanotubes for data storage lasting millions of years : http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/529/1
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05:26  * fenn doesnt have the energy to reply to permafacture
05:26 < fenn> the guy seems intelligent but just about everything he said is wrong
05:27 < fenn> oh well
05:30 < kanzure> DrTread: it's actually an airflow ordeal, IIRC.
07:16 < kanzure> hm. so first they define A_f as a matrix consisting of values of either -1, 0, or 1, representing whether a chord through variable is "a part of and negative", not a part of at all, or "a part of and positive" (in the same direction) as the defining branch. But then later they show A_f as being a matrix where each value corresponds to one of the five fundamental domains (2 for rotational, 1 for hydraulic, 1 for DC, ..). so I'm confused.
07:18 < kanzure> later they define it as: "An array whose elements consist of the non-identity matrix portion of the fundamental cutset matrices associated with each domain (refer to Eq. (1))" which looks closer to what I observe in their example of A_f filled out
07:19 < kanzure> what is a "non-identity matrix portion" (emphasis on portion)? does that mean you insert a diagonal line of 1's into the matrix they give you? or what?
07:21 < kanzure> papers-backup-2009-06-02.tar is uploading at 9.3 KB/sec. I don't think this is working.
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07:33 < kanzure> er, where do I find makefs?
07:34 < kanzure> mkfs.ext3 aha
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11:21 < bkero> mkfs.btrfs
11:21 < bkero> alternatively, mke2fs -j = mkfs.ext3
11:44 < kanzure-> what is btrfs?
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12:29 < kanzure-> todo: make lab user group on adl.serveftp.org
12:29 < kanzure-> I guess I should do the same for sata.serveftp.org
12:29 < kanzure-> been wanting to make a gallery of the work that I've done on adl.serveftp.org for a while now anyway
12:29 < kanzure-> although I don't quite remember where my millions of generated PNGs have walked off too
12:29 < kanzure-> *to
12:29 < kanzure-> hrm
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14:06 < genehacker> kanzure
14:06 < genehacker> kanzure are you there?
14:08 < genehacker> kanzure?
14:11 < mage2> no ones here but us chickens
14:15 < genehacker> where is that from?
14:24 < genehacker> oh I see
14:41 < genehacker> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/06/03/1629246/Hydraulic-Analog-Computer-From-1949
14:41 < genehacker> fluidic computer woohoo
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15:24 < wrldpc> It astounds me how disconnected the DIYBio and Xhumanist groups are.
15:24 < kanzure-> yeah really
15:24 < kanzure-> I'm one of the most frequent posters for the transhumanist mailing lists
15:24 < kanzure-> and yet they just ignore me or something?
15:25 < kanzure-> I just had a long rant about this with fenn
15:25 < wrldpc> As far as I know I'm the only one who attends both DIYBio and Xhumanist events in my area.
15:26 < kanzure-> you should post that on diybio
15:26 < kanzure-> I think others might be interested in hearing that
15:29 < wrldpc> They seem a perfect fit ... DIY Bio is like the ignorant radical arm of the larger Xhumanist movement ...  I'd like to know what a biologist would think about AI ... probably mutate into a bioinformatics convo.  I spoke with Aubrey about what he thought DIY Bio could lend in terms of resources or insight to SENS and he said "not much."  But I'm wondering what kind of equipment would really be necessary to do something pi
15:29 < wrldpc> In fact ... DIY Bio might be the REAL Xhumanism.
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15:29 < wrldpc> There's so much philosophical drivel at the meetings.
15:29 < wrldpc> the xhumanist meetings.
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15:31 < wrldpc> the media lab is full of unmotivated myopic punks.
15:32  * wrldpc is going to leave now to vent and go crazy over the fact that the woman he met at the ML party on Friday still has not returned his emails >:[
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15:52 < bkero> Anybody here know C?
15:54 < drazak_> kanzure-: 1-10 how good is the wiki article on h
15:54 < drazak_> h+
15:55 < drazak_> wikipedia that is
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17:54 < DrTread> ahoy
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18:23 < genehacker> kanzure?
18:28 < DrTread> genehacker where is kanzure? doesn't he live on this board?
18:28 < kanzure> yes, yes I do
18:28 < genehacker> kanzure is a program
18:29 < genehacker> he server must be having some problems
18:29 < genehacker> just kidding
18:31 < genehacker> he is still human
19:00 < genehacker> unfortunately I am too
19:02 < genehacker> woohoo
19:02 < genehacker> rudimentry internet access anywhere for me
19:12 < DrTread> rudimentary? 300 baud cradle modem? back when i was a kid, 300 baud was a luxury!
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19:26 < genehacker> yeah that pretty much describes it
19:27 < genehacker> though now I guess I can't use it
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21:46 < genehacker> hey kanzure
21:47 < genehacker> bye kanzure
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