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00:03 < genehacker> what's uploading
00:04 < genehacker> also there appears to be molasses in the tubes
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00:09 < kanzure> do we know a Zack Rusin?
00:19 < kanzure> fenn: http://192.168.1.108/projects/vecron/.git/
00:20 < kanzure> git update-server-info
00:20 < kanzure> blah
00:21 < kanzure> how did you know `git update-server-info` had to be executed?
00:21 < kanzure> er, what error did you get?
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00:26 < fenn> warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
00:26 < fenn> update-server-info rebuilds refs
00:30 < kanzure> http://192.168.1.108/supertest.py
00:30 < kanzure> behold the power of bpython
00:30 < kanzure> not sure how useful this really is
00:31 < kanzure> for everyone else: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/bpython-test.py
00:31 < fenn> wow wee that's like 20 seconds worth of typing
00:32 < kanzure> er, just demonstrating bpython's output
00:32 < fenn> oh. well it's valid python
00:32 < kanzure> python tells me syntax error
00:32 < fenn> i think it adds stuff to the class definition, not overwriting it
00:33 < kanzure> it thinks that the "from" is a reserved word
00:33 < kanzure> (and it is)
00:33 < fenn> oh. and you need some statement in the class body
00:33 < fenn> oh well
00:33 < kanzure> what?
00:33 < fenn> what's the point of bpython?
00:33 < kanzure> save the buffer
00:33 < fenn> class foo:
00:33 < fenn>   pass
00:33 < kanzure> also interactive IDE bullshit, but I don't know how useful that is.
00:37 < genehacker_> kanzure make a program that extracts mechanisms from patents
00:49 < kanzure> images?
00:49 < kanzure> I have a page segmentation algorithm if that counts.
00:49 < kanzure> vertical *and* horizontal
00:49  * kanzure makes spooky noises
00:50 < kanzure> fenn: for my demo, what input graph format should I be using? 
00:50 < kanzure> surely not gxml?
00:50 < kanzure> and I need something that I can somehow associate to small files containing example equations or something
00:50 < kanzure> for the component library
00:52 < ybit> kanzure: are you saying that when mirroring, use ports 8086 and 8087?
00:53 < ybit> off to bed
00:59 < kanzure> no.
01:06 < fenn> 192.168.1.86/irc/two-arcs.svg
01:07 < kanzure> 404
01:14 < genehacker_> kanzure the compsci people are making algorithms that figure out how to classify animals by pictures or figure out their musculature or something like that
01:15 < kanzure> fenn: git pull http://192.168.1.108/skdb/.git/
01:16 < kanzure> not that there's anything useful, just a bunch of comments
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10:46 < ybit> found a few more diy stm projects
10:46 < ybit> forwarded the link to the mailing lists
10:47 < ybit> http://forums.makezine.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=5340
10:47 < ybit> i'll get to building one of these soon
10:47 < ybit> need to make a list of equipment to acquire in order of importance today while standing around @ work
10:48 < ybit> speaking of, tty all afterwards
10:51 < kanzure> order of importance? 
10:53 < ybit> what i want to do first
10:53 < ybit> == importance
10:55 < ybit> top post?
10:56 < ybit> ah
10:56 < ybit> okay, i'm out
10:59 < kanzure> I don't know what tty0 through tty9 has to do with afterwards
11:00 < ybit> talk to you all 
11:00 < ybit> bye now
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11:47 < kanzure> wah. my patch was wrong.
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12:48 < nsh> what are the any* users?
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13:01 < kanzure> nsh: katsmeow.
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13:33 < kanzure>   File "find-all-cycles.py", line 61, in <module>
13:33 < kanzure>     g.add_edge(random.randomint(1,graphsize),random.randomint(1,graphsize))
13:33 < kanzure> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'randomint'
13:33 < kanzure> devil magic.
13:34 < kanzure> oh. randint.
13:40 < kanzure> http://192.168.1.108/find-all-cycles-ugh.txt
13:40 < kanzure> many of the paths are the same "but different", however.
13:57 < kanzure> .__contains__ is useful for that I guess
13:57 < kanzure> er, list.__contains__
14:44 < kanzure> fenn: git pull http://192.168.1.108/skdb/.git/
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15:30 < kanzure> gasp
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16:56 < kanzure> I need a simple way to see whether or not a graph is secretly two graphs (islands)
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17:39 < splicer> Kanz: If it's a tree you can always traverse upwards and see where you end up.
17:40 < splicer> if it's not i guess there is no other way than traversing every node and add them to a set. The set defines the graph, if you find a node not in the set you have your island.
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19:06 < kanzure> hello
19:27 < kanzure> I feel silly using pygame
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19:43 < splicer> kanzure: Speaking of python: Have you seen this? http://brainworkshop.sourceforge.net/
19:43 < kanzure> no
19:44 < splicer> The idea is cute.. apparently it has some research behind it
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20:28 < kanzure> http://192.168.1.104/shots/2009-06-14-particle_simulator.png
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21:05 < DrTread> the bids for the lasers & other parts are ending soon. are we going to do this?
21:09 < kanzure> fenn will put it together for you
21:25 < ybit> http://sxm4.uni-muenster.de/stm%2Den/ :: the sxm project/stm pics
21:25 < ybit> a bit more expensive than john alexander's ( http://www.geocities.com/spm_stm/ )
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21:48 < genehacker> did we have a guest?
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21:52 < DrTread> ah. fenn, do you concur? you will build it all?
21:55 < genehacker_> ???
21:55 < genehacker_> build what?
21:56 < DrTread> laser cutter.
21:56 < DrTread> everybody chip in $1k, kthxbai
21:59 < genehacker_> oh
21:59 < genehacker_> I might chip in a reprap
21:59 < DrTread> eBay auction ending soon for a 100 W, 808 nm laser brick. add power supply, optics, box, control hardware & software, and POOF we've got a laser cutter
21:59 < genehacker_> do we have a compressed air supply?
21:59 < genehacker_> the lense
21:59 < DrTread> that's the least of the problems :)
22:00 < genehacker_> the zinc selenide thing
22:00 < DrTread> ZnSe isn't necessary @ 808 nm; SiO2 will work fine :)
22:00 < DrTread> much more robust 
22:00 < genehacker_> ok
22:01 < genehacker_> oops
22:02 < DrTread> collimator lens & aiming mirrors & focusing lens all needed; will be quite a challenge, and maybe more expensive than buying an epilog
22:02 < genehacker_> edmunds
22:02 < genehacker_> optics
22:03 < genehacker_> maybe we could buy a cheap fiber based laser
22:03 < genehacker_> and not use optics
22:04 < kanzure> what force equation uses the dean ratio or something in it for fluid flows
22:06 < DrTread> fibers are preferable for novices, IMHO. Lower power, too.
22:08 < genehacker_> ok
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22:14 < genehacker_> DrTread I assume you have experience with this?
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23:24 < katsmeow-afk> melting moon rocks into building blocks?
23:33 < genehacker__> melting moon dust with microwaves is a better idea
23:36 < katsmeow-afk> well, i didn't spec *how*