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00:11 < genehacker> hey do you know if they have simulated versions of real cities?
00:13 < digitaltao> ?
00:13 < digitaltao> like google earth in 3d mode?
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00:16 < digitaltao> its the catsmeow.
00:17 < genehacker> yeah but with things like rainfall data, soil data, geography, so you can calculate water flow
00:18  * katsmeow meows
00:18 < digitaltao> hmmm
00:18 < digitaltao> too what end gene?
00:19 < genehacker> so you could see the effects of building a subdevelopment on an aquifer 
00:20 < digitaltao> hmmm
00:20 < genehacker> or figure out the most optimal walmart and school placement
00:21 < genehacker> like playing sim city with a real city
00:23 < digitaltao> nothing comes to mind really
00:24 < DrTread> optimal walmart placement: University of Oklahoma's campus.
00:26 < digitaltao> heh
00:27 < DrTread> on a serious note: has anyone tried to build John Alexander's STM (scanning tunneling microscope) ?
00:27 < genehacker> http://modeling.water.ca.gov/hydro/model/index.html
00:27 < genehacker> guess something like this
00:28 < digitaltao> no, got a link to the build tread?
00:28 < genehacker> I was just watching this one documentary and was reminded of sid meiers alpha centauri
00:28 < digitaltao> that was a fun game.
00:28 < DrTread> http://www.geocities.com/spm_stm/Project_overview.html
00:30 < DrTread> i was playing with piezos today. no deflection observed with 9 VDC. But then, i'm not using this particular piezo.
00:31 < DrTread> my measurement sensitivity: 0.0001" = 2.5 um
00:34 < genehacker> dang
00:34 < genehacker> sim city is comprehensive
00:35 < genehacker> semiconductor plants don't make people move away just like in real life
00:36 < genehacker> it doesn't look like sim city takes into account golf courses and their effect on water quality though
00:38 < digitaltao> that is a nifty build btw Drtread.
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00:56 < DrTread> yeah, i wish i could build one myself.
00:56 < DrTread> i don't know if that piezo is special
00:58 < DrTread> oh, wait. i just figured it out. the "m" in "mm" isn't an "m". It's a "mu".
00:58 < digitaltao> ahhhhhh
00:58 < digitaltao> MOOOOOOO
00:58 < DrTread> i'll need to set up an interferometer to check for movement.
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01:00 < digitaltao> yea the unimorph is the only part that looks a little tricky.
01:01 < DrTread> using his number, 9 V will move the piezo 1.4 moooocrons
01:02 < DrTread> so i will need maybe 30 VDC to see it with my mechanical gauge.
01:03 < DrTread> maybe a problem best handled tomorrow. :)
01:03 < digitaltao> yea
01:03 < digitaltao> -is aboot to hit the hay
01:04 < digitaltao> good talking
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01:06 < DrTread> me, too. nite nite, world
01:06 < DrTread> we shall take you over--tomorrow
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01:25 < katsmeow> In an article published in the Journal of Molecular Cell Biology, the Chinese experts said a class of nanoparticles used in medicine, ployamidoamine dendrimers (PAMAMs), may cause lung damage by triggering a type of programed cell death known as autophagic cell death.
01:52 < genehacker> http://www.physorg.com/news164282535.html
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08:29 < kanzure> "
08:29 < kanzure> "
08:29 < kanzure> According to my UPS's monitoring software, by machine idles (screen off with torrents running) at 180W and hits 210W with folding@home (GPU edition on my 8800GTS) running, 30W extra. Assuming it does that 24 hours a day (it's always on anyway as it also runs as my FTP/web server and for remote access), that comes to 21.6KW-hr per month, which at local electrical rate (9.6 cents/KW-hr) comes to $2.07 per month.
08:29 < kanzure> "
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09:07 < kanzure> reliability prediction software: http://www.isograph.com/workbench.htm
09:07 < kanzure> "The failure rate prediction methods have the same general form, they provide you with a powerful visual interface through which you can select components, define the conditions in which they operate such as the temperature or environmental conditions. The prediction software then carries out the failure rate calculation as defined by the standard and gives you the result. The Telcordia (Bellcore) standard predicts the failure rates for mainly electronic components and is based on research on telecommunications applications. The MIL-HDBK-217 standard predicts failure rates for electronic equipment based on work carried out for the US DoD. The RDF 2000 standard predicts failure rates for electronic equipment based on the reliability data handbook published by UTE (Union Technique de l'Electricite). The NSWC handbook deals with mechanical components and is based on research carried out for the United States Navy."
09:09 < genehacker> wow
09:09 < kanzure> what? "The main contents of this course has: the application pulls the Laplace transformation proceeds electric circuit analysis, apply the topology and matrix the electric circuit analyzes and the analytic appearance in network changes the method of deal."
09:09 < genehacker> that's amazing
09:09 < kanzure> is that supposed to make any sense in this language
09:10 < genehacker> yeah it means the guy that teaches the course probably isn't a native speaker
09:11 < genehacker> I probably shouldn't read so many papers by russian scientists....
09:11 < kanzure> can you read russian?
09:11 < genehacker> no
09:12 < genehacker> just bad english
09:13 < genehacker> is that software only for testing the reliability of electrical systems?
09:15 < genehacker> hmmm... you can estimate wear rates
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09:23 < kanzure> todo: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.debian%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&num=100&q=Kirchhoff%27s+current+law+%22cut+sets%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
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17:09 < kanzure> MapleSim design gallery: http://www.maplesoft.com/products/maplesim/gallery/index.aspx#2
17:11 < kanzure> http://www.20sim.com/downloads/files/20sim.exe
17:12 < kanzure> 20sim gallery: http://www.20sim.com/product/gallery/gallery.html
17:12 < kanzure> including a hexapod
17:27 < kanzure> standard models for SPICE? what? http://www.geia.org/index.asp?bid=1333
17:27 < kanzure> ex: http://mextram.ewi.tudelft.nl/download.html
17:30 < kanzure> "KVL is used to find the currents by using the voltage drop between the node and other nodes to find the current required to go through these paths to create the voltage drop. In other words, nodal analysis uses KVL to find the voltages that would create currents that would satisfy KCL."
17:31 < kanzure> blasphemy!
17:31 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nodal_analysis
17:31 < kanzure> there's steps in a list format!
17:31 < kanzure> how dare they.
17:32 < kanzure> there's also the "branch current method of analysis" (with steps) at the bottom of this page: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_10/2.html
17:35 < kanzure> something I'll eventually go get: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=1084079
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18:24 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/papers/Herminiimonas%20glaciei%20sp.%20nov.,%20a%20novel%20ultramicrobacterium%20from%203042%20m%20deep%20Greenland%20glacial%20ice.pdf Herminiimonas glaciei sp. nov., a novel ultramicrobacterium from 3042 m deep Greenland glacial ice
18:36 < kanzure> fenn: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/grammar_rulesets
19:00 < kanzure> step 4 http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/nodal_analysis
19:00 < kanzure> in which case is there going to be multiple voltage sources that meet those conditions
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20:58 < digitaltao> hai guize
21:00 < fenn> oi
21:02 < digitaltao> whats up ;x
21:16  * ybit never saw a cat from http://www.springerlink.com/content/v457g6t5p8514514/ :: " CAM-Brain: A new model for atr's cellular automata based artificial brain project"
21:16 < ybit> news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/250343.stm :: "Best brain boosts artificial life"
21:25 < ybit> looks like genobyte went under since their site has animal porn on it now
23:29 < genehacker> cool, but can it go skynet?
23:43 < genehacker> where's the cat?