--- Day changed Sun Jul 12 2009 00:00 < kanzure> it's fine over here :) 00:02 < fenn> or rather, i can load thumbnails but not fullsize or scaled images 00:02 < fenn> weird it works in wget 00:18 < genehacker> http://tinyurl.com/nzpzhc 00:18 < genehacker> this one 00:19 < genehacker> making THC(solvent) from what amounts to scratch 00:19 < drazak> nonyl phenol ethoxy 00:19 < drazak> lovely shit 00:19 < drazak> cleans driveways 00:20 < fenn> re 'horribly ugly' http://www.riversimple.com/Services/Media.ashx?MediaId=52 00:21 < fenn> it doesnt look half bad with the front ripped off http://www.riversimple.com/Services/Media.ashx?MediaId=62 00:21 < fenn> maybe i'm just some kind of car sadist 00:22 < fenn> but the whole thing is way too overstyled, from the steering wheel to the seats 01:06 < genehacker> huh? 01:06 < genehacker> I don't know chemistry 01:06 < genehacker> which is why I want to make me a chemistry waldo for being ok if things go wrong 01:23 < kanzure> wtf why is roguesci.org down 01:23 < kanzure> does anyone have a backup of roguesci.org? 01:32 < fenn> archive.org has some 01:32 < kanzure> there are various torrents of it 01:33 < fenn> what is it exactly? 01:37 < ybit> fenn: "A vast collection of explosive synthesis procedures including resources to assist you in understanding some of the technical jargon, and how to synthesize ..." 01:37 < fenn> hopefull that's for synthesizing explosives, not the other interpretation 01:37 < ybit> googles's grab of the description on www.roguesci.org/megalomania/index.html 01:37 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@c-76-21-115-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 01:41 < fenn> i must say i'm somewhat disappointed in this "sysborg" thing 01:42 < fenn> it's just TWiki 01:42 < fenn> kanzure: how big is that torrent eh? 01:47 < kanzure> added another gallery 01:47 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/machines/ 01:48 < kanzure> fenn: the one I found was 180 MB. but it wasn't the forums. 01:48 < kanzure> am not doing it at the moment. 01:48 < kanzure> sysborg? do you mean the indian "open source" drug discovery program? 01:55 < kanzure> some papers I totally forgot about: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/nano/ 01:56 < kanzure> it seems that the ~bbishop/docs/wearables/ directory is missing some files though :( 01:56 < kanzure> there used to be at least 20 different images of wearables 01:56 < kanzure> but now only two 01:57 < kanzure> and then of course these that I still haven't got entirely: http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/open-rtms/ 02:24 < genehacker> yes google does 02:24 < genehacker> their DEA'd 02:24 < genehacker> if you know what I mean 02:25 < genehacker> but we shouldn't be concerned with energetic material synthesis so much 02:26 < genehacker> just some of the techniques there should help us with diybio 02:26 < genehacker> huh? 02:37 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/art/?Qwd=./screenshots&Qif=2008-06-14.png&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=M 02:37 < kanzure> screenshots 02:38 < genehacker> so whatever happened to this megalomania fellow 02:39 < genehacker> ybit how do I get google's grab of that 02:45 < fenn> just guessing, try site:roguesci.org and wget all the "cached" links 02:46 < kanzure> ew 02:47 < fenn> better idea? 02:48 < kanzure> use the torrents 02:48 < kanzure> there's no way google cache has a full archive that they expose to users 02:48 < kanzure> unless someone has broken their hashing scheme yet? 02:52 < genehacker> what is wget? 02:53 < genehacker> roguesci has deteriorated into something horrible 02:53 < fenn> i keep hoping you're going to get a clue 02:53 < genehacker> never mind 02:53 < genehacker> oh that 02:53 < genehacker> hold on second 02:54 < genehacker> hey bryan looks great 02:54 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@cpe-67-9-157-136.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.11/2009060215]"] 02:55 < kanzure> um, thanks but no thanks 03:21 < fenn> well it's a pretty diagram at least http://www.sensorpedia.com/blog/spylib-the-sensorpedia-python-library/ 03:24 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@cpe-67-9-157-136.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 03:24 < genehacker> ok how do I get ubuntu to work with my wireless card 03:24 < genehacker> or should it already work? 03:25 < fenn> depends how bleeding edge your wireless card is 03:25 < genehacker> also can I access my windows files from ubuntu 03:25 < genehacker> I have no idea 03:25 < fenn> yes 03:25 < genehacker> just how do I get my internet to work? 03:25 < genehacker> excellent 03:26 < fenn> if it doesnt work out of the box, start troubleshooting 03:27 < fenn> can you ping your gateway for example 03:27 < genehacker> I'll think I see if I can't dual boot or something for now 03:28 < fenn> what does that have to do with networking 03:29 < fenn> you probably just have to run 'sudo pump' or something 03:29 < fenn> or tell it what essid to use 03:29 < genehacker> I don't know what you are talking about 03:29 < fenn> then you need to learn 03:30 < genehacker> how do I tell it which SSID to use? 03:31 < fenn> there is some pointy clicky thing but i do: sudo iwconfig eth1 ESSID foobar 03:32 < genehacker> is there a visual interface, if not give me some instructions on what commands to use 03:32 < genehacker> IE PDF of some help 03:32 < genehacker> nevermind 03:32 < fenn> are you lagged or am i? 03:33 < genehacker> UNDEFINED COMMAND: lagged 03:34 < genehacker> I'll figure it out 03:35 < fenn> i think it's me 03:35 < genehacker> damn firefox is leaking memory all over the place 03:35 < genehacker> I think it's gonna die 03:36 < genehacker> the linux version of windows explorer never crashes right? 03:37 < fenn> i suppose one could say that :) 03:37 < ybit> http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/vote/ 03:37 < genehacker> shoot 03:38 < fenn> i have yet to see a rock-solid web browser anywhere 03:38 < fenn> maybe you could try google chrome and tell us how it goes 03:39 < genehacker> does chrome have extensions? 03:39 < genehacker> no 03:39 < genehacker> anyway 03:39 < genehacker> I mostly use opera now 03:40 < genehacker> nope 03:40 < genehacker> wireless card isn't listed 03:40 < genehacker> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFf 03:42 < fenn> listed where? 03:42 < genehacker> on the list of wireless cards ubuntu supports 03:43 < fenn> what about madwifi 03:43 < fenn> or whatever the binary compatibility layer is called 03:43 < fenn> what's the card's name? 03:43 < fenn> model number 03:44 < genehacker> dell wireless 1510 wireless-N WLAN Mini-Card Rev 4.02 03:45 < fenn> what's the pci identifier 03:45 < genehacker> I'm gonna have to ndiswrapper or whatever 03:45 < genehacker> ???? 03:45 < genehacker> chipset #? 03:46 < fenn> dell 1510 is the laptop model number 03:46 < fenn> lspci will tell you the name 03:47 < genehacker> BCM432b 03:47 < fenn> aha 03:47 < genehacker> "/BCm32056000" 03:47 < genehacker> think I found a solution 03:48 < genehacker> going to sleep 03:48 < genehacker> if you aren't on mars time you should too 03:48 < fenn> i am going to try to do a 24 hour switcheroo 03:54 < genehacker> after all you are going to LA 03:56 < fenn> uh, so? 03:57 < fenn> my sleep schedule's been totally fucked for the last week, i'm trying to fix it 04:03 < fenn> http://heybryan.org:8080/sleep/ 04:03 < genehacker> what is that? 04:03 < fenn> just look at http://heybryan.org:8080/sleep/2009_07.html 04:03 < fenn> blue is sleep 04:03 < genehacker> a program that keeps track of when you are awake> 04:03 < fenn> yes 04:03 < genehacker> ? 04:04 < genehacker> how? 04:04 < fenn> obsessive record keeping 04:04 < fenn> midnight is on the left 04:04 < genehacker> how? 04:04 < fenn> how what? 04:04 < genehacker> how does it work? 04:04 < fenn> i have a file with lines that look like: 04:04 < fenn> 0545 2020 sleep 04:05 < genehacker> how does it keep track of you? 04:05 < genehacker> I assume you input the data 04:05 < fenn> yes 04:05 < genehacker> not that you wear an accelerometer 04:06 < fenn> i think you'd have to teach it to interpret the accelerometer data anyway 04:06 < genehacker> program that does this? 04:06 < fenn> does what? 04:06 < genehacker> accelerometer can figure out if you are getting good sleep? 04:06 < fenn> hmm. neural network i suppose 04:06 < genehacker> how does the program that keep track of this work 04:07 < genehacker> well some guy invented an alarm clock that keeps track of your movements in sleep to figure out when the best time to wake you up is 04:07 < fenn> yeah, that's not what this is 04:07 < ybit> emacs org-mode i'm assuming 04:07 < fenn> ybit: sorta like that, yes, but my own made-up syntax 04:08 < fenn> when i started i was using the scheduling software from some long dead japanese PDA 04:08 < fenn> the zaurus igeti, if anyone cares 04:08 < ybit> i like the time clocking capabilities it offers 04:08 < ybit> (org-mode) 04:08 < fenn> it had really good japanese handwriting recognition, so it was useful for looking up kanji and translating to english 04:08 < genehacker> cool 04:09 < genehacker> can you understand japanese? 04:09 < genehacker> bah 04:09 < genehacker> my motor is going to take a bit more power 04:10 < fenn> genehacker: i can pretend to, and be right half the time :P 04:10 < genehacker> oh so just about as good as I know spanish 04:11 < fenn> i was at the head of my class, whatever that counts for 04:11 < genehacker> could you hack out the image recognition software from it put it in a camera phone and make a translator? 04:12 < genehacker> heh I guess my motor should put out enough torque 04:13 < fenn> wow all i could ever get it to do was display text: http://www.pat.hi-ho.ne.jp/~sata68/img/p10_nayu.jpg 04:13 < genehacker> is dat sum mango? 04:16 < fenn> the handwriting recognition was highly dependent on stroke order (and it was a touchscreen btw) 04:16 < fenn> there is some open source equivalent software which doesnt work nearly as well 04:17 < genehacker> do you know anything about digital circuit design? 04:17 < fenn> yes, why? 04:18 < genehacker> I'm trying to make a circuit that outputs 110, 011, 101 repeat 04:18 < genehacker> or the reverse of such 04:19 < ybit> according to my schedule, it will 2-3 months before i start contributing to skdb, need to see if i can't cut more corners 04:20 < fenn> get an AVR, while true { int * foo = [110, 011, 101]; PA0 = foo++; if foo > 2; foo = 0}} or so 04:20 < fenn> ybit: what does this schedule look like? 04:21 < fenn> i mean what are you doing that actually gets done on time? 04:21 < genehacker> AVR? fenn, do you have a machine that makes AVR's? 04:21 < fenn> no, so? do you have a machine that makes digital circuit elements? 04:22 < fenn> i know what you're trying to do.. stepper motor sequences 04:22 < genehacker> yes 04:22 < ybit> month one: 04:22 < ybit> fix computer, reinstall gentoo, emacs-org 04:22 < ybit> autoscholar, giant communication matrix 04:22 < ybit> sequence dna: thermocycler/mini thermocycler (paper), open gel box 04:22 < ybit> molecular biology and genomics 04:22 < ybit> month two: 04:22 < genehacker> well I don't 04:22 < ybit> one giant communication matrix 04:22 < ybit> computerized manufacturing process planning systems 04:22 < genehacker> but I can use one for free 04:22 < ybit> manufacturing processes reference guide 04:22 < ybit> skdb 04:22 < ybit> month three through five: 04:22 < ybit> skdb 04:22 < ybit> oscillope/ar in freerunner 04:22 < ybit> month 6-12 04:22 < ybit> eeg 04:22 < ybit> voice recognition 04:22 < ybit> diysci.org/toolbook, freefab/skdb/openmanufacturing.org, heath.im, co.de 04:22 < ybit> month 12-24 04:22 < ybit> mea 04:23 < ybit> that's being highly optimistic 04:23 < fenn> you hope to sequence dna in one month from scratch? 04:23 < ybit> no 04:23 < ybit> parts of it though, yeah 04:24 < fenn> fwiw i think 'giant communication matrix' is a poor way to think about things 04:24 < genehacker> ybit get me some fluorescently labeled bases then we're talking 04:24 < fenn> much better to simply keep a file on each person you know containing everything you know bout them, such as what they know about 04:25 < fenn> takes a lot of work no matter which way you do it 04:25 < fenn> so the focus should be on how to automatically keep track of this metadata 04:26 < fenn> ybit: it looks to me like your "schedule" is more of a priority list than anything 04:26 < ybit> indeed 04:26 < genehacker> aha 04:26 < genehacker> it's so simple 04:27 < fenn> ybit: you usually cant buy acrylic glue so you should order that on ebay as it'll take a while to get shipped 04:27 < genehacker> how this stepper driver works 04:27 < fenn> the stuff in a can made by tapp plastics is good, i think it's either number 4 or number 6, and you need a little bottle with a needle to apply it 04:27 < fenn> active ingredient is methylene chloride so be sure to have good ventilation 04:27 < fenn> (also why you cant buy it anywhere) 04:28 < fenn> oops not tapp, IPS weld-on 04:28 < fenn> http://cgi.ebay.com/IPS-Weld-on-4-Solvent-Plexiglass-Acrylic-Glue-1-pt_W0QQitemZ320366177173QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a974feb95&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A6%7C72%3A1205%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A24 04:31 < genehacker> you know what I want? 04:32 < genehacker> a cad program that lets you make parts dimensioned by dimensioned 04:32 < genehacker> *dimensions 04:32 < genehacker> or is that what parametric modeling is for? 04:32 < fenn> parametric? 04:32 < fenn> yeah 04:32 < fenn> it's more than that though, since you can change the dimensions later and have everything update nicely 04:33 < genehacker> well then why doesn't my cad program easily redimension other dimensions when I redimension the main one 04:33 < fenn> solidworks? 04:33 < genehacker> no alibre 04:33 < fenn> hm. i guess you arent using it correctly 04:33 < genehacker> guess I need to rtfm 04:33 < fenn> yup 04:33 < fenn> actually you should go to sleep 04:34 < genehacker> must... finish... part 04:34 < genehacker> must help machine overlords dominate humanity 04:36 < ybit> anyway, that's what i'm pushing for. realistically, i'll probably have to add a few extra months to a few tasks. guess i should sleep since i'm babbling now 04:38 < ybit> gn genehacker, fenn 04:38 < ybit> gm* 04:38 < genehacker> ok I will sleeeafffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 04:39 < ybit> sadly, i understand the sleep-deprived language genehacker is speaking right now 04:40 < genehacker> holy fuck alibtr can do kinematic simulation 04:42 < genehacker> manual explained 04:42 < genehacker> it 04:51 < fenn> btw genehacker the circuit you wanted for steppers is called a shift register 05:05 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@cpe-67-9-157-136.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:44 < kanzure> genehacker: a good first step in network troubleshooting is figuring out the brand and name of your wireless card, probably through /proc or dmesg or by physically looking at the damn thing 08:45 < kanzure> there's a pointy-clicky interface on ubuntu that should automatically run for wireless support. I suspect genehacker is trying out ubuntu. 08:46 -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: skdb open source hardware package management system. git repo: http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/ "apt-get for real stuff!" | "the ilnux version of windows explorer never crashes right?" 08:46 < Utopiah> "apt-get for real stuff!" :) 08:46 -!- kanzure changed the topic of #hplusroadmap to: skdb open source hardware package management system. git repo: http://adl.serveftp.org/skdb/ "apt-get for real stuff!" | "the linux version of windows explorer never crashes right?" 08:47 < kanzure> bcm432b is way mor than supported IIRC 08:50 < kanzure> the giant communication matrix idea included the file on each person, by the way. 08:52 < kanzure> might be a good time to learn about autoproject and make files. I haven't used makefiles for anything but programming in the past. 08:54 < kanzure> ybit: please yell at me so I'll learn org-mode too 08:56 < kanzure> feels like changing religions 09:01 < kanzure> fenn: did you put the wiki page up somewhere? 09:08 -!- samrose [n=samrose@24.11.214.181] has joined #hplusroadmap 09:10 < kanzure> GitCommandError: "['git', 'blame', '-p', 'master', '--', 'the_filename'] returned exit status 128" 09:11 < kanzure> but running it myself, it works. 09:21 < kanzure> index saying that the repo is: ==== 09:22 < kanzure> well that's totally wrong 09:22 < kanzure> how could it be so confused as to think that I'm using the working dir as the test repo 09:24 < kanzure> huh. apparently "" defaults to the local dir. so if you have a logical error in your conditionals, you might end up accidentally modifying your working repository 09:25 < fenn> django isnt normally run from wherever 09:26 < kanzure> no. I was doing something stupid like "if the repodir parameter is a string, then use that as the path", but repodir is a named parameter set to "" by default 09:26 < kanzure> so I meant to say if type(repodir) == type("") and not (repodir == "") 09:31 < kanzure> um. so this passes: self.assertTrue(response.context[0].dicts[0]["folders_for_index"][0].has_key("name")) 09:31 < kanzure> this does not: self.assertTrue(response.context[0].dicts[0]["folders_for_index"][0]["name"] == foldernamevar) 09:31 < kanzure> it gives a KeyError 09:31 < kanzure> now how could that be? 09:40 < kanzure> well that only took forever. test_index() now passes. 09:43 < fenn> what was the answer? 09:46 < kanzure> wtf 09:46 < kanzure> jkdlfjakdlfjadslkdfjkalfda 09:47 < kanzure> what was that anime that everyone in japan saw 09:49 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirited_Away 09:49 < kanzure> terrible 09:49 < kanzure> "Spirited Away overtook Titanic in the Japanese box office to become the highest-grossing film in Japanese history." 09:53 < fenn> kannon or guan-yin 09:53 < fenn> kannon sees all suffering with her 12354198724581984985179819845798129812982319847127893978132897528959891 eyes 09:54 < kanzure> doesn't sound like a fun job 09:56 < fenn> nemue akira 10:28 -!- alx1 [n=alx@198.161.30.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:28 -!- splicer [n=patrik@h189n3c1o261.bredband.skanova.com] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 10:29 < kanzure> does anyone know what "the hive" was? something about amateur drug chemists? 10:59 < kanzure> what could she possibly be saying 10:59 < kanzure> there's like a ratio of 1000 words to 1 word response 11:04 < fenn> see earlier discussion with genehacker, abstract the process, apply it to your current situation 11:04 < kanzure> didn't realize I didn't have the driver 11:46 -!- samrose [n=samrose@24.11.214.181] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 13:16 < kanzure> gee, chromatography makes for a good use of grammar rules 13:16 < kanzure> apparently there are all sorts of rules you have to follow about which process to use next in a chain for purification etc. 13:17 < kanzure> http://heybryan.org/books/papers/protein-purification/notes.txt 13:17 < kanzure> 'Logical combinations of chromatographic steps' 13:18 < kanzure> fenn will like "suitability of purification techniques for the Three Phase Purification Strategy:" 13:32 < ybit> kanzure: emacs has viper mode which makes it easier to switch religions ;) 13:34 * ybit will is having to relearn a few emacs commands as well 13:36 < ybit> http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/adrafinil.modafinil.html 13:36 < ybit> think that's the second time i posted the link in here 13:37 < ybit> how to synthesis adradfinil and modafinil 13:38 < ybit> wonder what the drug regulations are in spain 13:39 * ybit is having difficulty obtaining modafinil 13:39 < ybit> i keep getting prescribed adhd meds 13:39 < ybit> which is what i've been diagnosed with several times 13:42 < ybit> was misdiagnosed as bipolar by this ahole of a doctor who didn't have time to listen to me explain my situation (two close friends had died recently) and i was going through a bit of a crisis 13:45 < ybit> anyway, modafinil has been the best med i've taken in terms of productivity, energy levels, and subjectively feeling happy 13:47 < ybit> but all docs that i've seen (~4) want you to be narcoleptic which poses a problem 13:47 * ybit needs to either find a doctor who prescribes modafinil for adhd or synthesize it legally myself 13:48 < ybit> ..or synthesize adrafinil myself (i think it's unregulated, been awhile since i looked) 13:48 < kanzure> why is it that I haven't seen much documentation on methlabs on the net? 13:48 < kanzure> it seems like this would be something that would have lots of content out there 13:48 < kanzure> but it's actually hard to find 13:48 < ybit> heh 13:48 < kanzure> how do these guys in the ghettos end up making their methlabs? 13:48 < ybit> well, i know a guy.. 13:49 < ybit> they don't have a lab 13:49 < ybit> they usually have one person perform this task, another person perform another task, etc. until it's made 13:49 < kanzure> maybe they buy a "methlab kit" from mexico or something 13:49 < ybit> and they aren't ghetto 13:50 < ybit> just regular guys/gals, business owners and middle class workers 13:50 < kanzure> well, here in texas there are stories from time to time about a random trailerhouse having exploded because the methlabie inside was being an idiot 13:50 < kanzure> *methlabbie 13:50 < ybit> hah, yeah 13:50 < ybit> that's all over the south :P 13:50 < kanzure> but it makes me wonder: who are these people? 13:50 < kanzure> is there some secret methlab society of information sharing that I am not aware of? 13:50 < kanzure> are n't these people territorial? 13:51 < ybit> dunno about the dealers 13:51 < kanzure> home meth lab: http://pugetsoundblogs.com/kitsap-crime/files/2009/02/meth-lab-1.jpg 13:51 < ybit> i have exp. with marijuana dealers and they don't seem territorial around here 13:52 < ybit> maybe it's a different industry because there are so many diff. types of mary 13:52 < kanzure> " suspect in mobile meth lab" <- hah 13:53 < ybit> i'm probably going to have to do some type of outreach from my lab so that cops don't suspect i'm doing any illegal activities with it 13:54 < ybit> i don't plan on doing anything illegal aside from ignoring copyright 13:54 < ybit> and scanning books, downloading music, videos, etc. 13:55 < kanzure> "The Narcotics Digest Weekly tells of a federal grand jury in Kentucky who indicted two men for concealing ice methamphetamine in a motorized, 3-foot hobby rocket -- connected by wires to the vehicle's cigarette lighter. If stopped by police, the men planned to open the trunk of the vehicle, raise the methamphetamine-filled rocket into launching position using a string and pulley system, and launch the rocket into the air. These two men now host Methbusters on the Discovery channel." 13:56 < ybit> lol 14:00 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clandestine_chemistry 14:01 < kanzure> "The methamphetamine situation changed in the mid-1990s with the entrance of Mexican organized crime into production and distribution. According to the DEA, the seizure of 3.5 metric tons of pseudoephedrine (the primary precursor chemical used in the production of methamphetamine) in Texas revealed that Mexican trafficking groups were producing methamphetamine on an unprecedented scale." 14:02 < kanzure> "Biker gangs including the Hells Angels took control over the manufacture of amphetamines using standard laboratory equipment." 14:02 < kanzure> what the fuck 14:03 < kanzure> the "methamphetamine lab seizures in the US" is startling 14:03 < kanzure> well, not really, but interesting 14:03 < kanzure> http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/map_lab_seizures.html 14:04 < kanzure> wtf we have a "http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/map_lab_seizures.html"? 14:04 < kanzure> er, sorry 14:04 < kanzure> "National Clandestine Laboratory Database" ? 14:06 < kanzure> there's been a decline in seizures 14:06 < kanzure> 2005: 12.1k, 2006: 7.3k, 2007: 5.9k, 2008: 6.7k. 14:07 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_meth_lab 14:07 < kanzure> "Rolling meth labs are often readily moved to a secluded location to be unpacked to synthesize the drug, such as in a public park,[2] or sometimes set up to render the drug while the lab is traveling in a vehicle." 14:08 < kanzure> "Rolling meth labs can be concealed on or in vehicles as large as 18 wheelers, or transported on something as small as a motorcycle. " 14:08 < kanzure> these guys outclass me 14:13 < kanzure> missouri is high: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/seizures/missouri_pg1.html 14:15 -!- kardan| [n=kardan@p54BE67AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 14:16 < kanzure> well this is odd 14:16 < kanzure> according to http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/map_lab_seizures.html 14:17 < kanzure> there were 6,783 lab seizures in 2008 14:17 < kanzure> but according to the national clanedestine lab registry, there were only 2300 seizures in 2008 14:17 < kanzure> *clandestine 14:18 < ybit> re: i know a guy. he doesn't do it anymore for future ref 14:19 < ybit> 09:22 < ybit> molecular biology and genomics 14:19 < ybit> wtf, how did that come in here 14:21 < kanzure> it snuck in through the back door 15:01 -!- elias` [n=c@host86-145-40-174.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:01 -!- elias` [n=c@host86-145-40-174.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:12 -!- any68570967 [n=someone@75-120-15-148.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- any72594702 [n=someone@99-194-248-246.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:19 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-121-63-140.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:19 -!- any72594702 is now known as katsmeow-afk 15:21 -!- any44728496 [n=someone@75-120-5-247.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:26 -!- any07112619 [n=someone@75-120-12-69.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:26 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@99-194-248-246.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:26 -!- any07112619 is now known as katsmeow-afk 15:30 -!- any16944145 [n=someone@75-120-19-217.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:31 < kanzure> http://www.thevespiary.org/talk/ 15:35 -!- any55749010 [n=someone@75-120-13-28.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:35 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-12-69.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:35 -!- any55749010 is now known as katsmeow-afk 15:37 -!- any68570967 [n=someone@75-120-15-148.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:40 -!- any30330390 [n=someone@75-120-26-47.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:41 -!- any44728496 [n=someone@75-120-5-247.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:45 < kanzure> does anyone know what "synthetikal" was? or "the hive"? 15:47 -!- any74653085 [n=someone@75-120-16-27.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-13-28.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:47 -!- any74653085 is now known as katsmeow-afk 15:50 < kanzure> what the *fuck* 15:50 < kanzure> http://www.thevespiary.org/talk/index.php/topic,8.0.html 15:50 < kanzure> so I'm randomly appearing in "lists of useful links" on private forums 15:53 -!- any16944145 [n=someone@75-120-19-217.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03 -!- any30330390 [n=someone@75-120-26-47.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 -!- any65838088 [n=someone@75-120-19-51.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:07 -!- katsmeow-afk [n=someone@75-120-16-27.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:09 < kanzure> "she has this 125 ml sep funnel of freebase floating on top of distilled water... she holds the vibrator in one hand with its pad facing upward... holding the sep funnel by its neck, she gently lowers its tip down onto the vibrating pad, never letting go with her other hand but holding it loosely... she watches the interface between the two layers and modulates the frequency of vibration by altering the pressure on the neck... she soon detects the characteristic shape of a spherical standing wave in the liquid... reflected on the interface, she sees the standing waves as clearly as in any textbook... by her altering the pressure on the sep funnel's neck, she "tunes" it like a guitar --- its the same thing as altering the tension on the strings..." 16:10 -!- any81982252 [n=someone@75-120-5-89.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:12 -!- any94570461 [n=someone@99-195-185-204.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:20 < ybit> http://pastebin.com/f2e82b961 :: a note on a clean workspace while carrying out genetic eng. 16:21 -!- any38997886 [n=someone@75-120-3-190.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 16:27 -!- any65838088 [n=someone@75-120-19-51.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:29 -!- any81982252 [n=someone@75-120-5-89.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:37 -!- any94570461 [n=someone@99-195-185-204.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:48 -!- genehacker [n=chatzill@cpe-67-9-157-136.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:35 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@pool-173-48-253-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:51 -!- any31453372 [n=someone@75-120-17-135.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 17:56 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simple_distillation_apparatus.svg 18:02 -!- xp_prg [n=xp_prg3@c-76-21-115-162.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:07 < kanzure> hm, a good list here: "various types of separation processes" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_process 18:08 -!- any38997886 [n=someone@75-120-3-190.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:35 < kanzure> "be a doer not a metooer" 18:47 -!- any10551439 [n=someone@99-194-253-195.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 18:49 < kanzure> http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2004/01/20/viruses_that_kill_cancer/ 18:51 -!- any31453372 [n=someone@75-120-17-135.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:02 < genehacker> oncolytic virus stuff? 19:07 < kanzure> rabies 19:15 < genehacker> DON'T EVEN THINK OF MODIFYING RABIES 19:15 < genehacker> remember that scare report from the security community about rabies? 19:15 < genehacker> er modified rabies? 19:28 < kanzure> http://earlvagary.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/deathstar.jpg 19:28 < kanzure> hey look everyone I just designed an open source death star 19:28 < kanzure> give me monies 19:57 -!- any11680269 [n=someone@99-195-192-241.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 19:57 -!- any10551439 [n=someone@99-194-253-195.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:04 -!- any42998848 [n=someone@75-120-39-227.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #hplusroadmap 20:22 -!- any11680269 [n=someone@99-195-192-241.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:28 -!- wrldpc2 [n=benny@pool-173-48-253-182.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 21:32 < kanzure> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dynamic_process_simulators 21:32 < kanzure> huh 21:38 < genehacker> I for one would recommend something like isenhorn fortress 21:38 < kanzure> all protocols are just the application of different instruments with different parameters in succession 21:39 < genehacker> which has a liquid metal armor exterior and gun turrets that can be repositioned or put under the liquid metal armor 21:40 < genehacker> how does your opensource death star work? 21:40 < kanzure> hahah 21:40 < kanzure> um 21:40 < kanzure> it has an unlimited supply of bullshit powering it 21:40 < genehacker> you design a couple of cell like modules and repeat all over 21:41 < genehacker> ok so powered by nuclear fusion 21:42 < genehacker> and uses a nuclear pumped superlaser 21:46 < kanzure> column chromatography has two basic simple interfaces 21:46 < kanzure> I could be defining it right now if fenn would only work out the class structure with me 21:46 < kanzure> heh' 22:11 < kanzure> it's fun blaming other people for my own lack of progress 22:22 < genehacker> it also slow things down... 22:53 < kanzure> need to re-read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distillation 23:02 < kanzure> vigreux condenser 23:02 < kanzure> raschig rings 23:03 < kanzure> raoult's law 23:03 < kanzure> liebig condenser 23:05 < kanzure> " the vapor pressure of an ideal solution is dependent on the vapor pressure of each chemical component and the mole fraction of the component present in the solution." hm. 23:07 < kanzure> ybit: thanks 23:23 < ybit> kanzure: for? 23:42 < fenn> weird, i just had a dream about undergoing phage therapy for a systemic bacterial infection 23:58 < ybit> argh, i think gmail misformatted my email to diytranshumanism :\