--- Day changed Sun Aug 09 2009
00:12 < fenn> i think it's odd that he suggests banning terminator seeds: http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/miller20090803/
00:12 < fenn> i mean most of the time you don't want GE seeds to spread uncontrolled
00:13 < genehacker> huh?
00:14 < genehacker> heh
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01:24 < fenn> mmm lego starcraft http://www.pcworld.com/article/163742/9_lego_games_youll_never_see.html
01:41 < genehacker> how is the lego project going?
01:42 < fenn> interesting: http://www.brickarms.com/Toys/Weapons.aspx
01:42 < genehacker> have you considered doing fischertechnik?
01:42 < fenn> wtf is that
01:42 < genehacker> yup
01:42 < fenn> i have my hands full enough with regular technic
01:44 < genehacker> fischertechnic is a build system toy that is also sold as an industrial prototyping solution
01:44 < fenn> modeling flexible elements is difficult
01:44 < fenn> there are a zillion and one construction toy systems
01:45 < genehacker> part interfacing is via dovetail slots
01:45 < fenn> i personally don't care to do them all
01:45 < genehacker> ok
01:45 < genehacker> lego might be best
01:45 < genehacker> fischertechnik is a bit complex
01:45 < fenn> why do you think it's complex?
01:45 < fenn> besides the unwieldy name
01:45 < genehacker> because I am not skilled in it's arts
01:47 < genehacker> http://www.robotmatrix.org/images/Fischertechnik-Super-Cranes-Model-03.gif
01:47 < genehacker> basic part interface
01:47 < genehacker> http://www.robotmatrix.org/images/Fischertechnik-Super-Cranes-Model-03.gif
01:47 < genehacker> error
01:48 < genehacker> http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-57190479284260/Fischertechnik1.jpg
01:50 < fenn> i would do 80/20 framing way before i ever considered modeling fischertechnik
01:50 < genehacker> yeah
01:51 < fenn> apparently zombie lego apocalypse is all the rage on the net these days
01:53 < fenn> i found this amusing at least http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintermute2600/2801481805/
02:16 < genehacker> wintermute...
02:17 < genehacker> we can make the zombie apocalypse happen to the security community
02:19 < genehacker> though I don't
02:33 < CIA-38> skdb: fenn * r 676a13ec1502 / (doc/readme readme): swap symlink and actual file; apparently github will display a file named "readme" automatically but not if it is a symlink
02:35 < fenn> kanzure plz update github
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02:48 < CIA-38> skdb: fenn * r 903958720a2c /packages/lego/interfaces.py: fix minor repr bug
02:48 < CIA-38> skdb: fenn * r b0002657a378 /core/part.py: options now takes a list of parts to evaluate for suitability (but, suitable for what process?)
02:48 < CIA-38> skdb: fenn * r a8195e7e13c1 / (doc/readme pymates/pymates.py pymates/rapid-test.py readme): oops. merge
04:50 < kanzure> http://automenta.com/netention
06:47  * ybit doesn't sleep on this stuff
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07:50 < ybit> hi kardan| 
07:50 < kardan|> hey ybit!
07:52 < ybit> :) kardan|: what's on the agenda today?
07:53 < kardan|> next step: get some sleep
07:54 < kardan|> but depends .. why you asking? got some work to do?
08:01  * ybit was visiting with the sickly grandfather
08:01 < ybit> work to do? always
08:04 < ybit> ======================================================================
08:04 < ybit> http://heybryan.org/books/labmusic  not found
08:04 < ybit> odd place for music to be located :)
08:06 < ybit> there she blows, labmusic2
09:12 < kanzure> it was renamed because fenn was running a wget -m of the hdd but didn't want labmusic
09:13  * ybit isn't sure of the best way to mirror your content
09:14 < ybit> rsync or wget --mirror, and should i send you a hard drive so you can do it yourself, or should i grab at certain times of the day
09:16 < ybit> maybe i can ping the server, and if it's a low ping (whatever that is determined to be), that's how the computer will know to start retrieving data
09:16 < kanzure> sending me a hard drive would be ideal at this point
09:16 < ybit> s/i/my computer
09:16 < ybit> 2tb?
09:16 < kanzure> 1tb would be sufficient
09:17 < ybit> figure that could hold heybryan and adl
09:17 < kanzure> adl doesn't have anything unique that isn't on heybryan
09:18 < ybit> does heybryan use a static ip?
09:19 < kanzure> no
09:19 < kanzure> not any more
09:28 < ybit> http://ybit.ath.cx/
09:28 < ybit> well that's convenient
09:31 < ybit> and http://heath.im get you here in about 8 hours
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10:04 < kanzure> ybit: speaking of domain names, spacehab.org is taken, however spacefab.org remains open.
10:15 < ybit> speaking of, i've added a docs directory which has books and and papers
10:15 < ybit> ybit.ath.ca/docs
10:15 < ybit> ybit.ath.cx/docs
10:15 < ybit> **
10:16 < ybit> haven't quite got around to moving everything there yet
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10:19 < ybit> oh wtf
10:20 < ybit> dammit
10:20 < ybit> i just deleted all my books -_-
10:23 < ybit> here was the list
10:23 < ybit> /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/
10:23 < ybit> er
10:23 < ybit> /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/
10:23 < ybit> argh
10:24 < ybit> /home/heath/documents/McGraw-Hill\ -\ PIC\ Microcontroller\ Project\ Book\ by\ John\ Lovi* books/
10:24 < ybit> http://dpaste.com/77302/
10:24 < ybit> there
10:24 < ybit> - /Biology\ -\* books/
10:31 < ybit> phew, i didn't delete them
10:36 < ybit> did anyone ever see this? http://ybit.ath.cx/videos/helio%20robot%20commercial.flv
11:06 < kanzure> you deleted all of them?
11:06 < kanzure> why is ybit.ath.cx redirecting to localhost?
11:07 < kanzure> ok fixed
11:44 < kanzure> Does anyone have a good explanation for how adderall works? Since it's proprietary tech, the only explanation I have ever found is "it is a stimulant", which is saying absolutely nothing.
11:57 < kanzure> does anyone have a clip of magneto lifting the golden gate bridge?
12:18 < drazak> man
12:18 < drazak> you guys can make anything boring
12:22 < drazak> kanzure: adderall downregulates inhibitors of MAO's
12:33 < kanzure> according to who?
12:34 < kanzure> wikipedia says "Amphetamines are believed to exert their effects by binding to the monoamine transporters and increasing extracellular levels of the biogenic amines dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin." but there's no citation
12:34 < kanzure> "It is hypothesized that D-amphetamine acts primarily on the dopaminergic (DA) systems, while L-amphetamine is comparatively norepinephrinergic (NE)." but it's not cited as to who hypothesizes this
12:38 < drazak> well then you should put a citation needed sign into the article
12:40 < kanzure> if adderall really works like that, then iproniazid and phenelzine would be used instead of adderall
12:40 < kanzure> phenelzine is Nardil
12:40 < kanzure> or tranylcypromine (Parnate)
13:08 < drazak> thosea are both MAOI's?
13:09 < drazak> it also upregulates the release of monoamines
13:51 < fenn> "the new helio Ocean: don't call it a phone" well wtf is it then?
13:51 < fenn> don't we have a name for a jeejah yet?
13:58 < fenn> "YAML is more of a socket wrench sort of tool, it makes a very bad hammer, and it really isn't a screw driver. I say socket wrench since you can get 'adapters' (aka tags) to fit the sort of data you need."
15:08 < ybit> fenn: heh, it was the robots i liked most. i wanted to build something like them since i was wee little man
15:08 < ybit> was +a 
15:14  * ybit starts learning to weld tomorrow 
15:14  * ybit needs a project to work on
15:14 < fenn> what sort of welding?
15:14 < ybit> maybe a bicycle...
15:14 < ybit> dunno
15:14 < fenn> don't weld on galvanized
15:15  * ybit knows nothing about it aside from the fact that it's welder and that welders melt metal together
15:15 < ybit> plan on doing some research before i go though
15:16 < ybit> noted, no galvenized metal
15:17 < ybit> my friend wants me to work for him at some chip manufacturing facility
15:17 < ybit> that sounds a lot more fun than k-mart electronics guy
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15:19 < fenn> possibly
15:19 < kanzure> does TRN overstimulation lead to inhibition of thalmocortical projection neurons? and if so, does this result look the same as a lesion of the TRN?
15:19 < kanzure> TRN = thalamic reticular nucleus
15:19 < ybit> Many different energy sources can be used for welding, including a gas flame, an electric arc, a laser, an electron beam, friction, and ultrasound. 
15:19 < kanzure> ultrasound? how does that work?
15:19 < fenn> and thermite!
15:19 < fenn> i larnt me that on the telly
15:19 < ybit> didn't realize welding was such an ambiguous term 
15:20 < fenn> ultrasonic welding is usually for plastics
15:20 < ybit> ah
15:20 < kanzure> does it cause plastic deformation, or melting, or what?
15:20 < ybit> i was wondering, because i hadn't seen a gas flame used on plastics 
15:20 < fenn> say you have a snap fit blobject. the contact area between the two pieces rubs together if you flex the pieces
15:20 < fenn> ultrasound just does this a zillion times a second and that melts the contact area
15:21 < fenn> ybit: usually plastic welding is done with this thing sorta like a cross between a glue gun and a hot air gun
15:21 < ybit> Heat guns can be used to dry and strip paint, apply heat shrink tubing, apply shrink film, dry out damp wood, bend and weld plastic, soften adhesives, heat shrink wrap on packaging, and thaw frozen pipes. 
15:21  * ybit has a heat gun, huh
15:22 < fenn> most plastics dont weld very well
15:22  * ybit should really pay attention to wiki articles on items he has access to
15:23 < kanzure> there's this study that says that TRN synapses projecting on to the anterior and mediodorsal thalamic nuclei cause disinhibition (or, excitation) of thalamic relay neurons (which are projecting to the the prefrontal cortices); but in another study, TRN has inhibitory activity, not disinhibitory activity
15:23  * kanzure wonders which one to believe
15:23 < fenn> both!
15:24 < kanzure> but then it doesn't make sense. it's either GABAergic or not.
15:24 < fenn> you should take a class on neuranatomy (or just show up or something)
15:24 < kanzure> thanks for the help
15:24 < fenn> seriously, then you could ask someone and they'll scratch their head and say nobody knows
15:25 < fenn> i mean a professor or something
15:25 < fenn> that's the supposed reason to pay megacents right?
15:26 < kanzure> no, the reason to pay megacents has something to do with getting a job or something
15:26  * kanzure doesn't pretend to understand it any more
15:28 < ybit> probably not a good idea to make a bike from car parts
15:28 < ybit> ideally it should be light
15:29 < ybit> 15:23  * kanzure doesn't pretend to understand it any more
15:29 < ybit> and your college education is complete
15:35 < ybit> maybe timschmidt__'s machine requires welding, and i'll have a project to work on
16:21 < ybit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_welding
16:21 < ybit> that's what i'll be doing
16:21 < ybit> there's about 3 at the junkyard
16:33 < ybit> more specific: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shielded_metal_arc_welding is definitely there, not sure what else 
16:41 < fenn> who do you know at the junkyard?
16:46 < ybit> the owner, my grandfater, the one that is sick in the room next to me
16:46 < ybit> and the junkyard beside is my great uncle
16:47 < fenn> well that's convenient
16:47 < fenn> my grandparents owned condo's and a cattle ranch
16:47 < fenn> on opposite sides of the country
16:52 < ybit>  http://maps.google.com/maps?cbp=12,352.72,,0,11.06&cbll=34.831786,-87.619148&ll=34.831786,-87.619148&layer=c
16:52 < ybit> that's a pic of my grandfather's, the uncle's is on the right down the street
16:52 < ybit> it's currently closed since he's sick
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17:31 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/protocol-cache.zip <- all protocols on protocol-online.org
17:32 < kanzure> elinks doesn't seem to like 8 MB HTML files
17:35 < fenn> that's smaller than i expected
17:35 < fenn> 8MB for all of them?
17:37 < fenn> gee no wonder i had such a hard time figuring this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_name#Terminology_of_CNAME_vs_.22canonical_name.22
17:37 < fenn> CNAME should have been called ALIAS
17:38 < kanzure> yes 8 MB for all of them cat'd together
17:38 < fenn> but it's 30MB unzipped
17:38 < kanzure> hm
17:46 < kanzure> huh there's a transformation by heat shock protocol
17:47 < fenn> yeah heat shock activates dna repair mechanisms that aren't normally used
17:50 < kanzure> it doesn't count if the protocol requires calcium chloride
17:50 < kanzure> (because then it's a calcium chloride protocol)
17:50 < kanzure> protocols should be named after the most ridiculously expensive component that they require
17:50 < fenn> what if heat shock improves cacl2 protocol?
17:50 < kanzure> then call it heat-shock-calc2
17:50 < kanzure> cacl2
17:50 < fenn> driveway ice melter is expensive?
17:51 < kanzure> in texas
17:57 < fenn> openkollab: "Our goal is to catalyze strategic confluence among related projects, allowing more of them to survive to maturity."
17:57 < fenn> Help related projects find each other
17:57 < fenn> Give distributed teams an easy way to plan and host a series of virtual and physical meetings to sustain their project
17:57 < fenn> Provide access to a broader community of collaboraters and facilitators that can help your team improve its process
18:00 < kanzure> ok updated: http://adl.serveftp.org/protocol-cache.tar.gz
18:00 < kanzure> (58 MB)
18:00 < kanzure> includes PDFs and HTML files of any sites that resolved correctly, plus all cached pages
18:00 < kanzure> the previous one included only cached pages (thus just HTML)
18:00 < fenn> huh. "parameterized lego bricks" http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:591
18:01 < kanzure> "required tools" list seems new
18:01 < kanzure> also looks like it sucks
18:01 < kanzure> http://www.thingiverse.com/tool:36
18:01 < kanzure> er why is a tool different from a thing
18:02 < kanzure> how can an stl file be parametric?
18:02 < genehacker_light> it can?
18:02 < kanzure> not to my knowledge
18:03 < genehacker_light> they aren't
18:03 < genehacker_light> people write scripts
18:03 < genehacker_light> for making parametric objects
18:04 < genehacker_light> http://blog.thingiverse.com/2009/07/01/more-on-parametrics/
18:05 < fenn> that's not what the lego bricks are doing
18:05 < fenn> lego bricks are doing CSG and then meshing/skeining
18:06 < fenn> oh joy, .aoi is binary data
18:06 < genehacker_light> dang it can't find their parametric object collection
18:08 < genehacker_light> oh joy someone's posted a new printable bearing
18:08 < QuantumG> I did CSG with trimeshes once.. it was challenging
18:09 < fenn> know anything about converting .stl back to primitives like cylinder, sphere
18:10 < QuantumG> nope
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18:35 < kanzure> fenn: campbell should have a labbie do stl->CSG. that's totally "automated design"-related
18:38 < fenn> it's a hard problem, i really doubt anyone he could get would be able to do it
18:38 < fenn> there's probably stuff out there already though, just needs to be found
18:44 < fenn> some theory about mesh collision detectionhttp://qxx.planetquake.gamespy.com/bsp/
18:44 < kanzure> I thought the hard part was small open spaces
18:45 < fenn> seems to be more about 2d level editing actually, now that i read the whole thing
18:46  * fenn fails miserably at searching for a mesh->csg algorithm
18:48 < kanzure> http://cadcam.me.ccu.edu.tw/english/paper/journal/2003_01.pdf surface reconstruction 
18:49 < kanzure> http://cvcweb.ices.utexas.edu/ccv/papers/1996/conference/sharp.pdf
18:49 < kanzure> there you go
18:50 < QuantumG> I think he's talking about the reverse csg problem
18:51 < QuantumG> given a bounding volume, find the minimum sequence of boolean operations from platonic primitives that can construct it.  
18:51 < kanzure> that's right
18:51 < QuantumG> good luck with that.
18:52 < QuantumG> might as well GA it
18:52 < kanzure> it's easy to do if you're allowed to use as many guesses
18:52 < kanzure> right
18:52 < kanzure> "Automatic reconstruction of 3D CAD models from digital scans"
19:26 < CIA-38> brain: kanzure master * r7b887a2 / human_brain.yaml : i forget - http://bit.ly/K4GIX
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20:12 < fenn> hum i always just thought finns were all crazy http://lifeboat.com/images/world_of_r_and_d_2005.jpg
20:17 < kanzure> wonder how that happened
20:22 < genehacker> what just happened?
20:23 < kanzure> finland's ridiculously high number of engineers per GDP
20:25 < fenn> it's not even that high really, 0.7%
20:26 < fenn> they're obviously doing something right though
20:28 < genehacker> ok
20:28 < kanzure> maybe it's their ridiculously awesomely unprunouncable names
20:28 < genehacker> why do you say that
20:28 < kanzure> unpronouncable
20:28 < kanzure> unspellable too :/
20:29 < kanzure> because I have a hard time reading the names of finnish authors in papers
20:29 < kanzure> damn you university of edinburgh!
20:30 < genehacker> you just need to install a finnish language pack to your language associated regions
20:43 < fenn> http://www.changethethought.com/evolution-gif/
20:49 < genehacker> nicely done
20:49 < genehacker> still makes people think evolution is like pokemon
20:50 < genehacker> transition from bacteria to fish was rather fast if you ask me
20:50 < genehacker> the fact that it loops makes the whole thing rather depressing
20:52 < genehacker> huh every thingiverse thing has a QR code
20:52 < genehacker> hehehehehe
20:53 < genehacker> can american phones read QR codes yet?
20:53 < genehacker> oh I got an idea
20:53 < genehacker> put the QR code on the object
21:00 < fenn> nothing special about this aerial drone except that it's so easy to do this sort of thing now http://www.youtube.com/v/RELqx_fsjao&
21:06 < fenn> that chopper is actually way bigger than it needs to be
21:19 < genehacker> fenn the big fuss in aerial drones these days is using them to make 3d models of cityscapes
21:20 < genehacker> that are updated EVERYDAY
21:21 < genehacker> bigger than it needs to be, but then again it's a quadcopter probably designed for carrying different payloads
21:23 < genehacker> cities are a 3d environment
21:24 < ybit> http://softwear.cc/ :: it's worth keeping an eye on this
21:24 < ybit> right now, it's just an intro to electronics, it's missing 'examples' sadly
21:26 < fenn> wtf "All TWIW articles are written in the first person, but not directly authored by the subjects, and we’re not allowed to see them before they’re published."
21:27 < fenn> extreme misattribution
21:28 < genehacker> is heekscad anygood?
21:30 < fenn> "One of my favorite programs that we didn't make is Rescue Time. It runs in the corner of my computer and tracks how much time I spend on different things."
21:30 < fenn> genehacker: it's the best open source cad program, but that isn't saying much
21:30 < genehacker> runs on linux?
21:30 < fenn> of course
21:30 < kanzure> fenn: any suggestions on how to make two vectors point at each other? given OCC
21:31 < fenn> kanzure: vectors don't have a location in space
21:31 < genehacker> vector connecting two points?
21:31 < kanzure> they do if the vector is pointing from an origin
21:31 < kanzure> vectors point
21:31 < fenn> perhaps you mean 'ray'
21:31 < genehacker> vectors pointing at each other from 2 points in space
21:31 < kanzure> no
21:31 < genehacker> that's easy
21:31 < kanzure> is it?
21:31 < fenn> kanzure: anyway, use my point_at code
21:32 < genehacker> yeah
21:32 < fenn> or whatever it was called
21:32 < kanzure> point_shape
21:32 < genehacker> make vector from point to point
21:32 < ybit> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nInbHSFFG5k
21:32 < fenn> or was it called orient_shape? balh
21:32 < genehacker> make it a unit vector
21:32 < ybit> linked from http://geekmyride.org/wiki/index.php/Trent's_Magna
21:32 < ybit> the controller in the vid is based on arduino
21:32 < kanzure> btw, while I'm thinking about it
21:32 < kanzure> spacehabs.org and spacefab.org is available for grabbing :p
21:33 < ybit> more links from geekmyride.org
21:33  * ybit is too tired to grab them right now
21:33 < kanzure> I was figuring 'spacefab' is a suitable play on 'spacehab'
21:33  * ybit thinks he may have picked up something from the stinky and sickly customers
21:33 < kanzure> but nobody except fenn and eric are going to get it
21:34  * fenn wonders if he should release the 'arduino nano' and make "millions"
21:35 < fenn> wow you can show your engine RPM on your iphone ~~
21:35 < fenn> why does that video make me want to get a machine gun
21:35 < ybit> http://jon.oxer.com.au/ . first vid is a presentation of things to do witha car
21:36 < ybit> fenn, you're my best friend, don't shoot me
21:36 < kanzure> sometimes friends have to be that way
21:37 < kanzure> take a bullet for the team :)
21:37 < fenn> "look at me i'm writing a book"
21:37 < ybit> away from fenn? sure
21:37 < ybit> hehe
21:37 < ybit> hehe was for writing a book comment
21:38 < ybit> i'm guess guessing you were talking about softwear?
21:38 < ybit> don't need to answer that
21:38 < fenn> is softwear by jon oxer?
21:39 < ybit> dunno
21:39 < fenn> anyway, arduino was cool about a year ago
21:39 < ybit> just found it from the latest twitter friend
21:39 < ybit> ..who tweets constantly about arduino
21:39 < ybit> http://twitter.com/littlebirdceo
21:40 < fenn> it's like ubuntu and debian
21:40 < fenn> people think ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread, but have no idea what debian is
21:40 < fenn> so when you tell them to grow up and use a real microcontroller they just stare blankly
21:41 < kanzure> for the past few years on the internet, everything has been turning into that
21:41 < kanzure> and I'm not sure anybody is actively trying to stop that or anything
21:41 < ybit> fenn, that is a good analogy
21:41 < ybit> good in that it's something i've experienced
21:42 < kanzure> I used to be more harsh on newbies .. but then I figured out I was just an ass.
21:42 < ybit> and so i'm going to make the assumption and say every arduino user is like that
21:42 < ybit> fuck the newbs
21:42 < ybit> i eat newbs for a living
21:42 < ybit> the world would be better without them, hail hitler
21:43 < fenn> heil machiavelli
21:43 < kanzure> sometimes they need a good bonking on the head
21:43 < kanzure> but that would be "abuse" or something
21:43 < ybit> er, hale :P
21:43 < fenn> kale kittler
21:43 < ybit> :)
21:43 < kanzure> any conversation is sufficiently stupid once hitler is compared to lolcats and/or kittens
21:44 < fenn> http://onastick.net/sitz/images/
21:44 < ybit> maybe that should be one of the rules on the channel, no comparisons of lolcats nor philosophy is allowed
21:44 < kanzure> that's spoofing something, but I'm too lame to figure it out
21:44 < ybit> lolcats *and hitler*
21:45 < fenn> what about hitler's philosophy about lolcats?
21:46 < fenn> it's from warhamer 40k, which (used to be) the best minifig RPG ever
21:46 < fenn> don't tell steve jackson
21:47 < ybit> new topic: hai can has stdio? visible "hitlr wishez he wuz lulz kat" kthnxbye
21:53 < kanzure> you know, I'm not sure I understand why point_shape is necessary at all
21:53 < kanzure> what's all this el-math.pi/2 crap
21:53  * kanzure deletes randomly
21:58 < fenn> *drool* http://youtube.com/watch?v=vlD_6p1aV5E
21:59 < fenn> el-math.pi/2 is so the rotations end up in the right place .. why are you deleting stuff?
21:59 < fenn> az = azimuth, el = elevation
22:10 < genehacker> wow that's amazing
22:11 < genehacker> they really do chip away the metal
22:14 < CIA-38> skdb: kanzure * r 78974a1a1a1c / (core/yamlcrap.py pymates/pymates.py pymates/rapid-test.py): trying to get two simple interface vectors to display correctly, see rapid-test.py presently
22:14 < kanzure> fenn: how come that's not right? what am I doing wrong? the vectors do not point to the same spot
22:14 < kanzure> the rays, I mean
22:14 < kanzure> arrows
22:15 < genehacker> interface vectors?
22:15 < genehacker> you seem to be making progress
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22:47 < genehacker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Krv3gE-c4&feature=channel_page
22:48 < genehacker> what skdb might be like once we get up to the fabrication stage
23:18 < fenn> god that guy's annoying
23:18 < fenn> what does that have to do with skdb?\
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23:28 < genehacker> kanzure has talked about having tech dependency trees
23:28 < genehacker> this guy worked up a dependency tree
23:29 < fenn> he needs a video editor
23:30 < fenn> wtf is the point of videos anyway
23:32 < genehacker> documentation
23:32 < genehacker> I guess
23:32 < genehacker> the point is
23:32 < genehacker> this is what working up a tech dependency tree might be like
23:32 < fenn> i'm sorry i didn't watch the video
23:33 < fenn> easily aggravated today it seems
23:34 < genehacker> code not working?
23:34 < genehacker> well he is quite annoying
23:38 < genehacker> hey isn't there some website that allows one to view videos removed from youtube?
23:39 < fenn> how would they know which ones were going to be removed?
23:39 < fenn> or just download all of them? is that possible?
23:39 < genehacker> I don't know
23:39 < genehacker> www.crunchgear.com/2009/04/16/japanese-geek-builds-awesome-giant-beetle-robot-for-some-reason-video/
23:39 < genehacker> damn copyright claims
23:40 < fenn> meh
23:41 < genehacker> I wanted to see if it didn't use wheels for moving around