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01:02 < ybit> kanzure: are you gay?
01:03 < katsmeow-afk> or just moderately pleased?
01:03 < ybit> :P
01:03  * katsmeow-afk backs up a lil
01:04 < fenn> markram: "If you want to go into AI, I think you have to realize you are making the assumption that your formula will have to capture 11 billion years of evolutionary intelligence."
01:04 < fenn> maybe he knows something I don't, but i thought Earth was only 4.5 billion years old
01:04 < katsmeow-afk> markram: altho atm i do not use the instinct to walk on all fours
01:05 < katsmeow-afk> and i seldom use my ear position to signal my submission
01:05 < ybit> kanzure: just curious, because you have a ~3 minute video of ~30 photos where joseph jackson is in next to nothing flexing
01:05 < katsmeow-afk> it's a kinesthetic study
01:06 < fenn> i was sort of confused about that too
01:06 < katsmeow-afk> actually, i am haveing a deja vu over it
01:08 < katsmeow-afk> and speaking of grabbing data: [01:03] <katsmeow-afk> so later, if i asked who's ancestors settled at Tocina, on the Guadalquivir, you can tell me Abu Amru ibn Habed?
01:09 < ybit> according to m0 theory, there's nothing wrong with me, yay, i'm human :P
01:09 < ybit> Re-evaluate ADHD & Other Non Existent Diseases
01:09 < ybit> As the true nature of Attention Deficit Disorder is separated into fully conscious natural immunes that have been subject to dopamine denial resentment and alienation, and children who have specific real physiological or psychological problems, better treatment for all can be achieved. ME/CFIDS can be re-evaluated in the light of this picture. But there are many other (primarily psychiatric) "diseases" that we will have to accept are not real at all, g
01:10 < katsmeow-afk> tell my legs that
01:11 < ybit> bah, you want to follow the rituals of keeping legs still? :P 
01:11 < katsmeow-afk> there's rituals?
01:12 < ybit> oh boy, m0 is acting on a stage 3 level with you
01:13 < ybit> oh right... ;)
01:14 < ybit> lojban needs metadata
01:16 < ybit> or maybe i need sleep
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02:25 < fenn> i must say i'm more impressed with google wave than i expected
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02:56 < kanzure> why?
02:57 < fenn> because you can edit one document, have it pushed somewher else, they edit their local copy, all history is preserved
02:57 < fenn> meanwhile all the banter is filtered out so you're just left with the final product
03:00 < fenn> see 33:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ 
03:01 < fenn> ok so it's just him talking.. i'd rather see a demo but their target users are not developers
03:04 < fenn> haha see 1:08;45
03:05 < kanzure> history preservation doesn't sound new
03:06 < fenn> i think it's an emacs wave client
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09:48 < drazak_> a
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10:39 < kanzure> ybit: straight as an arrow.
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11:09 < kanzure> is fenn alive?
11:10 < fenn> no
11:10 < kanzure> hmm
11:13 < kanzure> "Every Thursday, starting today, August 27th, the Student Engineering Council will be selling lunch at a reduced price on the ECJ Plaza (if rain, the main entrance of ECJ – 2nd floor) from 11:00am till we run out of pizza."
11:13 < kanzure> "The Pizza Package is ONLY $2 and includes:
11:13 < kanzure> · 2 slices of Pizza
11:13 < kanzure> · 1 bag of chips
11:13 < kanzure> · 1 drink"
11:13 < kanzure> huh
11:14 < fenn> hm
11:15  * fenn investigates
11:24 < fenn> it's true, and what a sad little pizza slice
11:26 < genehacker> try the cafeteria they have some pretty good pizza
11:26 < genehacker> oh shoot
11:26 < fenn> what cafeteria?
11:26 < genehacker> that's closer
11:26 < genehacker> kinsolving?
11:26 < genehacker> got an id?
11:26 < fenn> is that a building?
11:26 < genehacker> yeah
11:26 < genehacker> head up the hill you can't miss it
11:27 < genehacker> well I am going to check out this pizza thing
11:28 < fenn> $7 for cafeteria lunch... hm
11:28 < fenn> usually they charge you more to use your meal points than if you just pay cash
11:34 < genehacker> usually it's less
11:34 < genehacker> dang
11:34 < genehacker> pizza is thin crust type
11:38 < fenn> guh
11:38 < fenn> ok so my transform builder passes all the tests i can throw at it
11:56 < ybit> yay
11:57 < fenn> "so why doesn't it work?" is the obvious corrolary
11:58 < genehacker> keep debuging
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12:09 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r d4dc29e / (8 files in 2 dirs): tests for build_trsf
12:09 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r cefc154 /geom/geom.py: use gp_Trsf.SetValues
12:09 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r fb4a65b / (4 files in 3 dirs): merge and revert a4688621 since it was wrong
12:11 < fenn> blah i really screwed up that merge
12:12 < fenn> oh no i didn't, nevermind
12:27 < ybit> note to paralong: time firefox  6.05s time uzbl 0.15s
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12:35 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r ca15ad2 / (4 files in 4 dirs): clean up testing junk
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13:54 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 5ca4742 /paths.py: make show_interface work. unfortunately this breaks coordinate_arrows
14:27 < kanzure> "Consider surfboards. How many people reading this now know what the
14:27 < kanzure> connection between surfboards and space colonization is? Indeed, this
14:27 < kanzure> connection is so important that everyone in LUF should fully
14:27 < kanzure> understand how they are made. Puzzled? Well the connection is
14:27 < kanzure> perfectly simple; they are composite structures. You make rocket
14:27 < kanzure> hulls, fuel tanks, aircraft wings and fuselages in very much the same
14:27 < kanzure> way you make surfboards. So learning how to make surfboards is, more
14:27 < kanzure> or less, a prerequisite to learning how to build spacecraft."
14:45 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r b49a5ff /packages/lego/data.yaml: flip pin interface around to correctly represent insertion vector
14:45 < kanzure> changing the data seems unlike oyu
14:45 < kanzure> *you
14:47 < fenn> i had been meaning to do that for a while
15:22 < kanzure> hm my math professor posts on sci.math
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15:28 < genehacker> >:(
15:28 < genehacker> my textbook doesn't have linux support
15:28 < genehacker> and it has DRM
15:28 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r c491350 / (geom/geom.py paths.py): works for interface 0 at least, probably because it's at (0,0,0)
15:30 < genehacker> it's in PDF, BUT it's some weird encrypted shit that works only with SPECIAL SOFTWARE TM.
15:32 < genehacker> "Also unlike some other digital book types, you can print and copy-and-paste. In fact, when you paste from a VitalBook, you get the relevant bibliographic data with it! "
15:32 < genehacker> teehee
15:32 < kanzure> genehacker: if it's on the web then it's possible to download it
15:32 < kanzure> my chemistry textbook is an "ebook" but I don't buy that bullshit
15:32  * kanzure rips it
15:33 < kanzure> woah it's in HTML
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15:44 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r b3718c5 /paths.py: illustrate the bug. for some reason one of part2's coordinates are negative
15:47 < drazak_> have any of you used a nanodrop to determine RNA or DNA concentrations?
15:52 < kanzure> yes
15:57 < kanzure> "Cheerfully resisting change since 1959."
16:23 < drazak_> kanzure: what do you know about the absorbtion at 230nm?
16:27 < drazak_> or in the most relevant case, when 260/230nm absorbtion is lower than 2?
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17:29 < genehacker> http://gizmodo.com/5346964/ibm-takes-first-3d-image-of-molecule-atomic-bonds-using-crazy+powerful-microscope#comments
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18:46 < xp_prg> there is a meeting tonight at the tech shop for the diybio group starting at 8 pm
18:46 < xp_prg> keep it real or watch at www.justin.tv/xp_prg
18:49 < xp_prg> anyone going to keep it real?
18:54 < kanzure> no, go away
18:57 < QuantumG> xp_prg: dunno if anyone here is in the bay area
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19:00 < xp_prg> so watch online
19:07 < genehacker> bay area?
19:07 < genehacker> is that where you are?
19:08 < xp_prg> ya
19:10 < kanzure> xp_prg: nobody wants to watch you
19:11 < QuantumG> kanzure: did I miss when you became a cranky old man?
19:12 < genehacker> dang I didn't know you were so close
19:12 < genehacker> to where I go sometime
19:13 < genehacker> there's a public wetlab in san jose
19:13 < genehacker> find it
19:14 < genehacker> I hear they have FREE GFP PLASMIDS
19:14 < genehacker> and E.COLI
19:14 < genehacker> I've been there
19:14 < genehacker> almost free
19:14 < kanzure> QuantumG: xp sucks
19:15 < genehacker> kanzure speaking of xp
19:15 < genehacker> did you hear that xp is now the supported operating system for tech support here?
19:15 < genehacker> they recommend downgrading
19:18 < genehacker> PICK UP SOME E.COLI from PUBLIC WETLAB and GROW it 
19:22 < xp_prg> genehacker please, please, please tell me more
19:22 < xp_prg> what is the address of this San Jose wetlab please?
19:22 < genehacker> the tech
19:22 < genehacker> have fun
19:22 < xp_prg> give me a web page for them
19:23 < xp_prg> genehacker my speaker dropped out, can you speak tonight?
19:24 < genehacker> no
19:24 < xp_prg> what is the website for this public wetlab place?
19:24 < genehacker> I'm at L2 currently and it's rather hard to get down
19:24 < xp_prg> genehacker you can do it remote via justin.tv
19:24 < xp_prg> what is the website for this public wetlab place?
19:24 < xp_prg> what is the website for this public wetlab place?
19:25 < genehacker> I will not show my face
19:25 < genehacker> I will not reveal my voice
19:26 < genehacker> I talk in text only and only for a bit
19:26 < genehacker> I have homework
19:26 < xp_prg> dude were you joking about this public wetlab place?
19:26 < xp_prg> tell me where it is, do they have a web site?
19:26 < genehacker> no
19:27 < genehacker> it's a wetlab
19:27 < genehacker> you have to pay admission to get in
19:27 < genehacker> it's called the San Jose Tech museum
19:27 < genehacker> and they have GFP and E.coli
19:27 < xp_prg> and you can do your experiments there?
19:28 < genehacker> one
19:28 < genehacker> but they have GFP
19:28 < genehacker>  a useful gene
19:28 < xp_prg> dude its a museum man
19:28 < genehacker> yeah I know
19:29 < xp_prg> they are not going to give me gfp and cells
19:29 < genehacker> they let you modify bacteria to glow
19:29 < xp_prg> you do the experiment yourself?
19:29 < genehacker> yeah
19:29 < genehacker> life will find a way
19:30 < xp_prg> get me some when you go there then!
19:30 < xp_prg> :>
19:31 < genehacker> system failure
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21:44 < ybit> http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/ wtf, i saw a commercial on history channel for this
21:53 < ybit> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_doomsday_prediction -_-
21:57 < any63988024> did you just write that?
21:59 < ybit> write what? the message or the wikipedia article?
21:59 < any63988024> 2012 will prolly be a financial disaster
21:59 < any63988024> if not before then
21:59 < any63988024> the article
22:01 < ybit> no, i did not. i think it's lame
22:03 < any63988024> well,, if the finances collapse, the govs will too, retail sales will collapse, people will die (become "spirit"(ual)), and a new opinion/awareness will spread over the planet
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22:26 < genehacker> xp_prg can't log into talk
22:27 < genehacker> HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
22:27 < genehacker> IHC LOL
22:29 < ybit> where is http://heybryan.org/books/papers/Effect%20of%20Pulsed%205.62%20GHz%20Microwaves%20on%20Squirrel%20Monkeys%20(Saimiri%20sciureus)%20Performing%20a%20Repeated%20Acquisition%20Task.pdf
22:29 < ybit> kanzure?
22:31 < genehacker> hello xp_prg
22:31 < drazak_> tomorrow; cell culture; plasmid prep; pcr
22:32 < genehacker> ybit that IHC thing is viral marketing
22:32 < genehacker> for the 2012 movie
22:33 < ybit> maybe, i saw that it was a movie being produced and that crossed my mind, but didn't bother to look into it
23:02 < kanzure> ybit: it's not there at the moment? hrm
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23:13 < genehacker> since it's viral marketing we should make a vaccine to stop the infection
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