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00:03 < kanzure> "STN on the web" looks pretty close (accesses CASREACT) except it doesn't seem to work with ezproxy
00:05 < kanzure> hm: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/chem/sfs1.html
00:06 < kanzure> broken links?
00:06 < kanzure> ah here we go: https://scifinder-cas-org.ezproxy.lib.utexas.edu/scifinder/login.jsf?TYPE=33554433&REALMOID=06-b7b15cf0-642b-1005-963a-830c809fff21&GUID=&SMAUTHREASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=-SM-JY4LbS2p%2bgz765P800x5OOaEwqPCbTkVdKHqXjnYiBDMW75oNochBjvKgTBKfbcN&TARGET=-SM-http%3a%2f%2fscifinder.cas.org%2fscifinder%2f
00:07 < kanzure> "This milestone came quickly, since it was only 9 months ago that CAS registered its 40 millionth substance.  In contrast, it took 33 years for CAS to register the 10 millionth compound in 1990."
00:09 < kanzure> gah: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/chem/scifinder/register.html
00:10 < kanzure> https://scifinder-cas-org.ezproxy.lib.utexas.edu/registration/index.html?corpKey=A65E4AAB-86F3-50AB-5475-3D89FD84DD8C
00:10 < genehacker> cas react?
00:10 < genehacker> what's this?
00:11 < genehacker> ugh registration
00:11 < kanzure> "To complete your SciFinder registration, you must click the link provided below. By clicking the link, you agree to all of the following terms and conditions:
00:11 < kanzure> * I will not share my username and password with any other person. * I will search only for myself and not for others or other organizations. * I will not use any automated program or script for extracting or downloading CAS data, or any other systematic retrieval of data.
00:11 < kanzure>  * I may retain a maximum of 5,00 Records at any given time for personal use or to share within a Project team for the duration oof the Project. * My organization's SciFinder License and the CAS Information Use Policies (http://www.cas.org/legal/infopolicy.html) apply to my use of SciFinder. * I will contact my SciFinder Key Contact if I have questions.
00:11 < kanzure> wtf is this bullshit?
00:12 < genehacker> as if 
00:12 < genehacker> east coast code
00:13 < kanzure> "4)  I will use my search results in the ordinary course of academic research and acknowledge that I may store search results in electronic form for the duration of research projects, provided that at any one time, I store no more than 5,000 records. I may share search results in a limited, reasonable way with other University students or faculty working on the same project. I will delete stored records when I no longer need them for the relevant research project, or after the completion of my degree program, whichever occurs first. If I need to use search results beyond what is described here, I will contact my University Key Contact to discuss and to obtain CAS permission. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM NOT PERMITTED TO DISTRIBUTE ANY CAS DATA OR SCIFINDER, FOR COMMERCIAL GAIN OR OTHERWISE, OUTSIDE THE UNIVERSITY OR TO THIRD PARTIES."
00:13 < kanzure> these guys are brutal
00:14 < kanzure> why is 5k the magic number?
00:14 < kanzure> hm this is the american chemical society?
00:15 < kanzure> apparently there's a "chemical abstracts exchange" file format called CXF
00:19 < genehacker> at least it doesn't say "unauthorized reproduction is illegal" on every page
00:27 < genehacker> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/09/claims_of_pnuematic_processor_full.html
00:43  * katsmeow-afk is intrigued by http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110002809091/en
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05:17 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/Peter%20F.%20Hamilton%20-%20Misspent%20youth.pdf
06:06 < fenn> geez it was 6 months between the time that microfluidic processor was published and the popular media noticed
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08:02 < fenn> damn, now i want a pet armadillo
08:03  * dira thinks of green snake with red eyes as his favorite pet
08:03 < fenn> hah "In some parts of South America, they are kept as pets — pets which are occasionally eaten."
08:12 < kanzure> this is pretty fun to play with: http://www.daylight.com/download/contrib/pydaylight.html
08:13 < kanzure> found here: http://www.daylight.com/download/contrib/index.html
08:13 < kanzure> hm: http://www.daylight.com/download/contrib/transform.tar.gz
08:27 < kanzure> "SMILES was originally developed as a proprietary specification by Daylight Chemical Information Systems. Since the introduction of SMILES in the late 1980's, it has become widely accepted as a defacto standard for exchange of molecular structures"
08:28 < kanzure> http://www.opensmiles.org/spec/open-smiles-1-intro.html
08:28 < kanzure> aha: http://frowns.sourceforge.net/
08:29 < kanzure> example: http://frowns.sourceforge.net/examples/example3.py
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08:57 < genehacker> why an armadillo?
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09:57 < fenn> apparently hydrogen isn't an atom according to smiles/frowns?
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10:12 < fenn> huh. "Be aware that while GraphViz is opensourced it is not free for commercial applications and any such use must be cleared with AT&T."
10:13 < fenn> nevermind i think that's wrong
10:21 < fenn> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/pngs/frowns_graphviz.png
10:35 < fenn> meh: http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/fenn/pngs/frowns_graphviz2.png
10:35 < fenn> i guess graphviz doesn't do double or triple bonds :)
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10:43 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r cd50243 /import_tools/SMILES_graphviz.py: mucking around with frowns and graphviz
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10:51 < fenn> IUPAC to graphviz would be cooler
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10:58 < fenn> kalzium is pretty impressive
11:05 < fenn> hmm
11:05  * fenn conects 6 bonds to a hydrogen atom
11:15 < fenn> "scheme"->iconic is pretty funny
11:16 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/kalzium_iconic.png
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11:51 < fenn> somehow i find this interesting, it's recommendations on drawing 2D chemical structures http://old.iupac.org/reports/provisional/abstract07/brecher_prs2.pdf
11:52 < fenn> it seems like a lot of these rules would apply to instruction generation as well
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12:29 < kanzure> liposuction yields induced pluripotent stem cells better than skin
12:30 < kanzure> fenn: should the retrosynthesis code go into skdb or not?
12:30 < kanzure> dunno if it's package-worthy since it's not really hardware
12:31 < kanzure> ideally the thingy that reads the retrosynthesis output would generate hardware and thus belong as an skdb package
12:39 < fenn> bleh?
12:40 < fenn> openbabel supports a crapload of formats
12:41 < kanzure> there's also bluebolesik
12:42 < kanzure> http://www.blueobelisk.org/
12:42 < fenn> bodr: "Common repository of chemical and physical facts"
12:43 < fenn> seems to be what kalzium uses (they dont use the package though? wtf)
12:49 < fenn> openbabel is blueobelisk
12:50 < fenn> well, something like that
12:50 < fenn> openbable makes use of it somehow
12:53 < kanzure> fenn if you find a database of SMARTS I'd really like to see it
12:53 < kanzure> blueobelisk is probably just a social group to be honest
12:53 < fenn> well, i liked what i saw
12:53 < fenn> what is special about SMARTS?
12:54 < kanzure> nothing, only that people seem to use it
12:54 < fenn> and they don't seem to use SMILES?
12:54 < kanzure> it describes chemical reactions/transformations
12:54 < fenn> what are you saying?
12:54 < kanzure> SMILES and SMARTS are compatible
12:54 < fenn> oh it's a reaction language
12:55 < kanzure> SMARTS is an addition to SMILES 
12:55 < kanzure> at most I can find only 11 smarts
12:55 < fenn> it's a fingerprint system?
12:55 < fenn> do you even know wtf it is?
12:56 < kanzure> it's not for fingerprinting
12:57 < kanzure> this is chemistry
12:57 < kanzure> basically it's a string grammar rule
12:57 < fenn> right it looks sorta like a regex
12:57 < fenn> fingerprinting is something like searching for a particular functional group
12:58 < fenn> ... i guess
12:58 < fenn> anyway, i dont care, go away..
12:59 < kanzure> oops sorry, SMIRKS is the reaction string grammar
12:59 < kanzure> there's a button on this page that says "Reacting carbon" that goes to an online demo:
12:59 < kanzure> http://www.daylight.com/dayhtml_tutorials/languages/smirks/index.html
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13:05 < fenn> why do i get KeyError: 'all_bricks' on line 347 of paths.py?
13:07 < fenn> kanzure: *poke*
13:07 < kanzure> hm
13:07 < kanzure> I'm looking, I'm looking
13:07 < kanzure> did you get this before? this hasn't happened to me
13:07 < kanzure> not sure if I've used "clear" before though
13:08 < fenn> it's because of your function partial stuff, obviously
13:08 < kanzure> does add_key's "keyword" have "all_bricks" ?
13:08 < kanzure> s/keyword/keywords/
13:09 < kanzure> um did either of us ever test this?
13:09 < fenn> clear was broken since the beginning a4c0919bb2dc0f2a169b370ce2312c52809c902e
13:10 < kanzure> right, functools was my attempt at fixing the wacky issues involved with using globals and trying to pass things around
13:10  * kanzure tests functools
13:10 < fenn> keywords is {}
13:10 < kanzure> in add_key?
13:11 < fenn> in clear
13:12 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 58f85d4 /gui/gui.py: fix functools.partial (forgot a parameter)
13:13 < kanzure> try that while I go fetch the foods
13:14 < fenn> that didnt do squat
13:22  * fenn reads about **kew
13:23 < fenn> btw it works when i include all_bricks=123 in the argument list for clear
13:23 < fenn> clear(event=None, all_bricks=123):
13:23 < fenn> def ^
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13:30 < kanzure> fenn: functools.partial and add_key works when you have all_bricks in the argument list?
13:38 < fenn> why did we need to use functools again? something about gui.py?
13:41 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 189983b /paths.py: move from globals halfway to OO
13:42 < kanzure> functools was so that we could eventually migrate away from using globals
13:42 < kanzure> the problem was that add_key had to take a function object
13:42 < kanzure> and a function object doesn't have parameters
13:42 < kanzure> def blah: pass
13:42 < kanzure> my_func = blah
13:42 < kanzure> or: my_func = functools.partial(blah, some_parameter_here)
13:42 < fenn> but what function in particular needed an argument?
13:42 < kanzure> 'def blah' should have had an example of a named argument I guess
13:42 < kanzure> fenn: clear
13:43 < fenn> but clear gets overwritten in paths.py
13:43 < kanzure> no that's where clear was defined I thought
13:43 < fenn> it's also defined in gui.py
13:43 < kanzure> isn't it the same thing?
13:43 < kanzure> oh in gui it's just display.EraseAll
13:44 < fenn> yeah
13:44 < kanzure> yeah overwriting it in paths.py is fine
13:44 < kanzure> that's clear for a gui, not clear for the paths.py demo
13:44 < kanzure> paths.py obviously has a few more things worth clearing
13:46 < fenn> def bar(a=7, b=9, c=None): print c,b,a
13:47 < fenn> foo = {'a':4, 'b':5, 'c':6}
13:47 < fenn> bar(**foo)
13:47 < fenn> prints 6 5 4
13:47 < fenn> just FYI
13:48 < fenn> bar(*foo) prints b c a
13:54 < fenn> part of the confusion was due to the fact that i can't get the traceback when i press 'c'
13:54 < fenn> so i was doing demo->clear instead, which didn't use the partial
13:54 < kanzure> wxpython is totally lame
13:54 < kanzure> why would it hide the traceback?
13:54 < kanzure> it's not multithreaded..
13:55 < kanzure> so it has access to it somewhere
13:57 < fenn> it's something to do with the try: except ValueError:
14:00 < fenn> duh. it's not "except ValueError:" it's just "except:"
14:03 < fenn> s/except:/except KeyError:/
14:03 < fenn> i guess that would still swallow some errors
14:04 < fenn> just get rid of the whole try/except statement
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14:20 < kanzure> use except KeyError, k:
14:20 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r f6a4d93 / (gui/gui.py paths.py): move App from paths.py to gui.py, fix show_interfaces
14:22 < fenn> did you actually try that?
14:22 < fenn> KeyError, k:
14:23 < kanzure> it puts the exception into "k"
14:23 < kanzure> er, that's just how python wroks I thought
14:23 < kanzure> *works
14:23 < kanzure> so then just go print k or something
14:23 < kanzure> or is it k.message?
14:26 < fenn> i dont know and pydoc doesn't help
14:27 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 3d052f0 / (5 files in 3 dirs): move dependency code into core
14:27 < kanzure> you can now delete the "dep" folder btw
14:28 < fenn> looks like git removed it automatically
14:28 < kanzure> yay for git
14:29 < kanzure> wire exploring code: http://pastebin.com/f5aeaf875
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14:34 < fenn> what are you going to do with that?
14:34 < kanzure> already implemented it in BoundingBox in geom/geom.py
14:34 < kanzure> (just cleaning up some uncommitted files)
14:35 < fenn> hey could you try to keep import statements at the top of the file?
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14:36 < kanzure> fenn: ok.
14:36 < kanzure> my bad :)
14:36 < kanzure> there were four near BoundingBox IIRC
14:36 < fenn> if [x, y, z] is not [None, None, None] and x is not [] and y is not [] and z is not [] and shape is None:
14:36 < fenn> wtf is that
14:37 < kanzure> brainfart
14:37 < kanzure> how do I make that better?
14:37 < kanzure> I don't want x, y, or z to be [] or None, and I need shape to be None
14:38 < fenn> first of all, i thought you were doing two points
14:38 < kanzure> i am
14:38 < fenn> no, you have x = [min, max] etc
14:38 < kanzure> right..
14:39 < kanzure> point1 = x min, y min, z min
14:39 < kanzure> point2 = x max, y max, z max
14:39 < kanzure> I count only two
14:40 < fenn> do you often get this error with add_valid_lego? ValueError: invalid null reference in method 'TopoDS_Shape___eq__', argument 2 of type 'TopoDS_Shape const &'
14:40 < kanzure> no never
14:40 < kanzure> but I got that somewhere else the other day
14:41 < kanzure> and even pasted it in here
14:41 < kanzure> so if you want to search the logs to see my fix ..
14:41 < fenn> kanzure: why not just __init__(point1, point2)
14:41 < kanzure> what about shape?
14:41 < fenn> what about shape?
14:42 < kanzure> look at the __init__
14:42 < fenn> hey why don't you just use OCC bounding box instead of compute_from_edges
14:43 < kanzure> because I don't know about it
14:43 < kanzure> also is it slow?
14:44 < fenn> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/opencascade/doc/ReferenceDocumentation/FoundationClasses/html/classBnd__Box.html
14:44 < kanzure> well. great.
14:44 < kanzure> blah
14:44 < fenn> er, that's not what you want
14:47  * fenn looks at http://www.opencascade.org/org/forum/thread_13902/
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14:54 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 7742635 /gui/gui.py: forgot import
14:56 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 474e599 /import_tools/readme: now you know what this crap is
14:59 < fenn> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/opencascade/doc/ReferenceDocumentation/ModelingAlgorithms/html/classBRepBndLib.html
14:59 < ybit2> got my welder in today: http://www.millerwelds.com/products/stick/thunderbolt_xl_ac_dc/
15:01 < fenn> kanzure: so should i fix this?
15:02 < kanzure> don't start now
15:02 < kanzure> it's almost 1530
15:02 < fenn> harumph
15:02 < kanzure> that's a new one
15:03 < katsmeow-afk> ybit , first thing you should do is open it up and remove the main diodes which are wired up with 14awg, and put in some serious hardware on real heatsinks, then wire the fan to a thermostat
15:04 < katsmeow-afk> my Miller had 4 small diodes on 2 5x3 inch aluminum plates, they relied on the surge rating of the diodes
15:05 < fenn> kanzure: did you not happen to notice that test_part_mating locks up consistently?
15:05 < fenn> kanzure: anyway, it's hardly a unit test
15:05 < kanzure> test_part_mating is in which file?
15:06 < fenn> in test_geom.py
15:06 < kanzure> test_geom?
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15:06 < kanzure> works for me
15:06 < kanzure> ran 1 test in 3.775s
15:06 < kanzure> (most of that was the crappy STEPImporter textpuking)
15:06 < fenn> connecting 2x2 round brick's stud  to 2x2 round brick's anti stud brick1[6] to brick2[1])
15:07 < fenn> this makes me think it's doing the same thing that paths.py does when it starts off with a round brick
15:07 < kanzure> have you noticed it sucks when it starts with a round brick?
15:07 < kanzure> paths.py, I mean
15:07 < fenn> yes
15:07 < kanzure> any clues?
15:08 < fenn> i thought i might have two interfaces in the same spot or something
15:08 < fenn> but i think i checked and that wsn't the case
15:08 < kanzure> ok so still an open problem
15:08 < kanzure> hey why the hell don't we have a bug tracker?
15:08 < fenn> because they're more trouble than worth half the time
15:09 < kanzure> is it lame to just keep a file with a list of bugs?
15:09 < fenn> no
15:09 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 7882750 /doc/todo: update the todo to represent recent progress
15:11 < ybit2> thank you katsmeow-afk, you always provide helpful info
15:11 < ybit2> ..most times ;)
15:11 < katsmeow-afk> i won't force you to do it
15:12 < kanzure> fenn: it crashes for me too
15:12 < kanzure> when it does the roundbrick
15:18 < fenn> this is annoying.. bpython is crashing on me a lot now
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15:20 < kanzure> did you update it?
15:20 < kanzure> is it crashing only on this round brick problem or when doing normal stuff?
15:21 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 2dc6439 /readme: update readme to reflect dependency resolution engine changes
15:25 < fenn> no i mean bpython actually crashes
15:25 < fenn> the round brick thing just sits there twiddling its thumbs
15:25 < fenn> what does this mean? "doesn't support rectangular prisms at the moment"
15:25 < kanzure> I was wrong
15:25 < kanzure> you explained to me why I was wrong
15:25 < kanzure> it was a silly thing for me to think anyway
15:28 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 61e35be /doc/todo: fix mismatched apostrophe
15:28 < fenn> ok i implemented the OCC bounding box finder and it seems to do the same thing (not having a functional unit test kinda sucks)
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15:50 < kanzure> fenn: ok
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15:56 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 717abce /geom/geom.py: fix bounding box clusterfuck. now uses OCC Bnd_Box methods which don't rely on edges defining the extents (for example like you'd get in a nurbs patch
15:56 < CIA-32> skdb: fenn * r 43e63f4 / (doc/todo import_tools/readme readme): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb
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16:01 < fenn> should BoundingBox use the OCC Bnd_Box methods like IsOut?
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17:00 < ybit> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/HackerSoundScapes
17:16 < xp_prg> what is the best tool/program for molecular visualization and animation?
17:17 < xp_prg> is it pymol?
17:22 < fenn> flash, definitely
17:22 < ybit> screw flash, silverlight ftw :)
17:22 < fenn> um, yeah, that's what i meant
17:23 < fenn> still getting used to flash not being the ultimate evil
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17:32 < xp_prg> fenn I mean an already made program/tool
17:32 < xp_prg> like if I have a pdb etc...
17:55  * katsmeow-afk shudders
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18:45 < genehacker> python doesn't happen to have any handy uncertainty libraries now does it?
19:08 < kanzure> what do you mean? like statistics?
19:12 < Phreedom> uncertainity isn't usually handy :P
19:33 < kanzure> it is when you're planning for reliability or failure analysis
19:34 < kanzure> er just something I've recently become more obsessed with
19:34 < kanzure> there's this paper that I just forwarded to a few lists about failure propagation analysis in hardware designs
19:38 < kanzure> fenn: do you know how to conveniently convert from SLiP to YAML?
19:38 < kanzure> on adl:~/lab/roomba-to-yaml/slippy_0.2/ I have a copy of SLiP
19:38 < kanzure> and in the parent directory there's roomba.slip
19:41 < genehacker> failure propagation analysis?
19:41 < genehacker> you should ask my statistics teacher about nuclear plant failure analysis then
19:42 < kanzure> I wouldn't imagine that to be very discrete, would it?
19:43 < kanzure> What's in a nuclear power plant anyway besides the reactor?
19:43 < kanzure> control systems I guess
19:43 < kanzure> steam turbines? are we doing that?
19:54 < kanzure> reaxys is awesome, they provide XML output for its search results
19:54 < kanzure> now if onyl I can grab their actual database
19:54 < kanzure> heh reactions with ID=96669 
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20:15 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 8e925af /doc/todo: parametric modeling added to todo
20:15 < kanzure> blah
20:15 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 20d68e2 /import_tools/ (yaml2outline.pl ysh.pl): perl tools to play with yaml, like yaml2outline.pl
20:15 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 4d26a7c /geom/geom.py: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://bryan@adl.serveftp.org/var/www/skdb
20:43 < katsmeow-afk> i need a file to dl that's bigger than a gigabyte
20:43 < katsmeow-afk> contents don't matter
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21:07 < ybit> katsmeow-afk: http://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html or http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3505908/2001_A_Space_Odyssey_DVDRip_XviD
21:08 < ybit> http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Downloads33#h81-2
21:10 < katsmeow-afk> thatnks, gmta, i am doing http://download.wikipedia.org/enwiki/latest/enwiki-latest-pages-articles.xml.bz2 atm
21:12 < katsmeow-afk> it's small enough, yet big enough, i wanna proove a certain lib crashes on files over ~500megbytes, and proove a mod will let it dl any size files
21:13 < katsmeow-afk> in case you were wondering
21:14 < katsmeow-afk> plus it doing ~70 page faults/sec
21:14 < ybit> what library/
21:14 < katsmeow-afk> i don't wanna say, they'll blame it on me
21:14 < ybit> alright
21:15  * katsmeow-afk goes to get clearance to let it out in the wild
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21:34 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 0b1fa52 /import_tools/del_repo/repo_to_yaml.py: code to convert from dot repo to dot yaml (xml2yaml)
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21:55 < CIA-32> skdb: kanzure * r 0ca6adf /import_tools/readme: update readme to reflect new import tool
22:03 < ybit> my phone had been turned off for a few days because it wasn't able to charge
22:04 < ybit> turned it on this afternoon and there's a ddos attacked from twitter.com/kanzure skdb messages. google voice wasn't able to reach me for minutes :P
22:04 < ybit> s/attacked/attack
22:05 < katsmeow-afk> heh
22:05 < ybit> kanzure: iirc, the occ build for debian fails miserably?
22:06 < kanzure> no otherwise how would we have the dot deb?
22:08 < dira> you phone uses Google voice? how is that?
22:11 < kanzure> http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/opencascade/debs/
22:11 < ybit> dira: i'm using an older phone temporarily, it's a pita to use the keys and it's quicker to just copy and paste a number from the web to the google voice interface. so anyway, from the google voice interface i was attempting to call a business, and the process is that g.v. calls me first, but it was unable to reach me because the phone was unable to process so many requests at once :)
22:12 < ybit> did you build the debs kanzure or are these the ones that are in Lenny?
22:12 < kanzure> they are from squeeze
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22:15 < ybit> oh, katsmeow-afk, do you buy your welding rods online or are they just as cheap in the store?
22:15  * ybit was planning on visiting http://www.valleyairsupply.com/ tomorrow (a local company)
22:16 < ybit> fenn: you do some welding as well iirc
22:17 < ybit> we can cast metal at work and that makes me happy
22:17 < katsmeow-afk> in the store, i make 3 compete for my busines
22:17 < katsmeow-afk> i buy 50lbs at a time too, drives the price down some
22:17 < ybit> 50lbs == ~$?
22:18 < katsmeow-afk> it changes a lot,, and i don't remember last time
22:20 < ybit> anyone worked with capacitance detectors?
22:20 < katsmeow-afk> $125? ,,,, $130?
22:20 < katsmeow-afk> i get some discount
22:21 < ybit> i might go with 25lbs. then, that's a little more than i'm willing to spend atm
22:21 < kanzure> fenn: I'm not convinced OCC is doing it right. test_geom's test_boundingbox fails (it didn't fail before you changed it to OCC)
22:21 < kanzure>     self.assertTrue([box.x_max, box.y_max, box.z_max] == [len_x, len_y, len_z])
22:21 < kanzure> frankly that should be a very easy test to pass
22:22 < kanzure> run as: python test_geom.py TestGeom.test_boundingbox
22:22 < kanzure> also in case any one is interested, here's the results of my xml2yaml stuff: http://adl.serveftp.org/lab/roomba-to-yaml/roomba.yaml
22:34 < genehacker> coolant pumps kanzure
22:34 < genehacker> if a coolant pump fails
22:34 < genehacker> what's being cooled tends to overheat
22:43 < genehacker> also there is a federally mandated nuclear power plant failure rate
22:43 < genehacker> right now it's something like one meltdown per 1 million years
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22:53 < parolang> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1361651&threshold=-1&commentsort=3&mode=thread&cid=29360097
22:53 < parolang> You know, once I learned about hydrocarbons on Titan, I wondered about the same thing :)
23:02 < genehacker> short chain hydrocarbons mind you
23:03 < genehacker> in a thick atmosphere that saps away heat faster than the vacuum of space
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23:29 < kanzure> meeting notes from ADL today: http://adl.serveftp.org/dokuwiki/2009-09-08
23:29 < kanzure> (they are not particularly verbose)
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