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01:12 < wrldpc2> yo
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01:44 < fenn> watching 'a mormon perspective on transhumanism'
01:45 < fenn> "you have got to learn to become Gods yourselves, th same as all Gods before you have done." -joseph smith
01:50 < genehacker2> huh?
01:55 < genehacker2> the mormons are strang
01:55 < genehacker2> e
02:03 < fenn> for any mormon lovers out there http://jmichaeloday.blogspot.com/2009/05/these-people-are-some-batsht-crazy.html
02:07 < katsmeow> things that catch one's eye : Its Penola project has a measured resource of 11,000 petajoules
02:08 < katsmeow> roughly 30,000megawatt-years
02:09 < fenn> some kind of geothermal power plant in australia? is this a mormon thing?
02:09 < katsmeow> possibly
02:09 < fenn> possibly?
02:09 < katsmeow> it is geothermal, i do not know if any are mormons
02:10 < fenn> uh.. ok
02:10 < fenn> what does "Its" refer to?
02:11 < katsmeow> unsure, possible "joint venture partner "
02:11 < katsmeow> ~ 1/2 down on http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26034789-30538,00.html
02:12 < fenn> am i missing some link in the train of thought? was that just a random comment?
02:12 < katsmeow> random comment, very sorry i brought it up
02:12 < fenn> ok sorry for the misunderstanding
02:13 < genehacker2> geothermal power works everywhere on earth, as long as you can dig deep enough
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06:13 < wrldpc2> Mormons .. Morlocks ... hmm
06:13 < wrldpc2> Both start with MOR!!
06:13 < wrldpc2> MOR MOR MOR!
06:14 < wrldpc2> the morlocks lived underground, yes?
06:14 < wrldpc2> omgz correlation 
06:45 < fenn> mormons eat elohim
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14:12 < fenn> kanzure_: http://www.autistics.org/library/bingo.html
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14:38 < kanzure_> so what exactly does this mean?
14:38 < kanzure_> http://www.zwixy.com/image-id-1612686471253290694452.jpg.html
14:40 < fenn> it means you're too old to understand
14:40 < fenn> this is how i feel when family guy is on
14:40 < kanzure_> but his hand fell down the hole
14:41 < kanzure_> hwo does vader have it?
14:45 < kanzure_> cool telomeres made the 2009 nobel prizes
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15:03 < kanzure_> met the guy behind dresden codak and another guy behind phpbb
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16:16 < kanzure_> hey wrldpc2 
16:16 < kanzure_> thanks again for everything
16:17 < wrldpc2> the eagle has landed
16:17 < wrldpc2> oh not a problem at all
16:20 < kanzure_> ok i'm going to go get a burrito
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17:30 < kanzure_> hey noah
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17:58 < kanzure_> wrldpc2: you asked for music recommendations. http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/music/
17:58 < wrldpc2> thanks, kanzure.
18:37 < kanzure_> i think i'll use gnuplot for the business plan, or something
18:38 < kanzure_> it would be fun to have real-time self-adjusting prices that match demand/supply to target goals in a business plan
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19:15 < katsmeow-afk> segmented markets
20:31 < kanzure_> http://dresdencodak.com/2006/12/03/dungeons-and-discourse/ 
20:31 < Noahj> Heh 
20:31 < Noahj> Bryan, did you go to Singularity Summit? Apparently Aaron Diaz was there.
20:32 < Noahj> Today at Fab Academy we did nothing except get various CAD tools working, and even though Adrian claims to hate .stl, you're right about reprap using it
20:32 < Noahj> I've no idea what's up with that
20:32 < kanzure_> aaron diaz, i mean
20:33 < kanzure_> Noahj: yes i went. i also met david.
20:33 < Noahj> Cool.
20:33 < kanzure_> here are the people i met:
20:33 < kanzure_> http://adl.serveftp.org/~bryan/meetlog.txt
20:33 < kanzure_> hm that's not updated
20:34 < kanzure_> okay updated
20:35 < Noahj> Ooh, you met Stephen Wolfram 
20:35 < Noahj> STAR POWER
20:35 < Noahj> ...sorry
20:36 < kanzure_> but gregory benford isn't star power? come on now
20:37 < Noahj> Is "Kevin from 2600" /the/ Kevin from 2600?
20:37 < Noahj> Or a non-Kevin-Mitnick Kevin from 2600?
20:37 < kanzure_> non-kevin-mitnick kevin
20:38 < Noahj> Ah.
20:38 < Noahj> I don't know Gregory Benford, I'm not up on the science fiction scene 
20:39 < kanzure_> he's an oldie in the scifi scene by now
20:40 < Noahj> I'm still slowly trudging through Asimov 
20:41 < Noahj> I tried a bit of Bradbury but it gets annoying when he's all luddite and incoherent 
20:41 < Noahj> It's intriguing but not really about the technology 
20:45 < drazak> I think I almost bought a benford today
20:46 < kanzure_> meh
20:46 < kanzure_> you can do better
20:46 < kanzure_> but he's not terrible
21:22 < drazak> I'm reading a stephenson
21:22 < drazak> anathem
21:23 < drazak> I read cryptonomicon
22:06  * ybit just noticed the 'administering anesthetics to mice' thread again, didn't realize there were so many responses
22:07 < ybit> it's kind of odd that it all boils down to one private org. which sets the rules on working with animals (aaalac)
22:18 < ybit>  	 topright
22:19 < ybit> Guide for the Care and Use of Laboratory Animals is available in pdf from nap.edu
22:19 < ybit> someone must have it floating around on the interwebs
22:22 < ybit> http://depts.washington.edu/auts/courses_online.html
22:23  * ybit should distract himself someday with thoughts on how to encourage science in children, in particular nephews/nieces (/me is about to be an uncle)
22:23 < ybit> science/rational thought
22:24 < ybit> kanzure_: you have a younger sister, i'm sure you've given thought on the matter. katsmeow-afk, what do you think? and anyone else who wants to chime in
22:24 < Noahj> Spend a lot of time reading the encyclopedia together, maybe?
22:25 < Noahj> I think Kanzure has at least one page on this :-p
22:25 < ybit> i laughed when i read that, but that actually may be fun :)
22:25 < ybit> or at least you could find something they may find interesting and do some acitivity with that in mind
22:26 < Noahj> Kids love water-powered stuff and crystal sets 
22:26 < Noahj> And all those little experiments like making spectrometers in cereal boxes 
22:26 < ybit> and things that go 'boom'
22:27 < Noahj> And graphite resistors 
22:35 < katsmeow-afk> arc lamps
22:43 < Noahj> Morse code
22:44 < Noahj> And substitution ciphers
22:44 < Noahj> I don't know if that's science-y enough 
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23:37 < ybit> Noahj: that could be used for his/her clubhouse :)
23:38 < ybit> or (/me hopes) their underground lab
23:38 < Noahj> He/she could have a pretty sweet clubhouse
23:38 < Noahj> Like, a hexayurt, or something 
23:38 < Noahj> Cut one out of aluminum on a waterjet :-p
23:39 < ybit> please let me have a 'dexter' for a nephew or niece :)
23:39 < Noahj> (not a hexayurt)
23:39 < ybit> hexayurts are neat, but they aren't in a tree, though they could be placed underground
23:40 < Noahj> Yeah, a steel box underground might be cool 
23:41 < Noahj> You could dig it out with a firehose, maybe? 
23:41 < Noahj> I've no experience creating underground labs 
23:49 < ybit> i really don't think they could be placed underground safely, ftr :P
23:50 < ybit> ...without modifications
23:50 < Noahj> Yeah, you'd have to put in ventilation and stuff 
23:50 < Noahj> When I was a bit younger there was a little house under a hill in our backyard that had one of those round ventilation fan things on it 
23:51 < Noahj> I'm not sure why, but, er, you could always put it aboveground and then put dirt on top 
23:52 < Noahj> I think that's how this one was constructed, although I'm not sure, there were some trees growing on it, but it was pretty old as well 
23:56 < ybit> or just construct an earthbag building for them to play in :)
23:56 < ybit> http://www.motherearthnews.com/Do-It-Yourself/Earthbag-Building-Garden-Shed.aspx
23:57 < ybit> thanks again bkero for mentioning this alt form of construction
23:58 < Noahj> That's a good idea