--- Day changed Thu Nov 26 2009
00:04 < ybit> how are you two checking out each others' branches (sounds gay and dirty doesn't it)?
00:05 < ybit> each pushes to master and selectively pulls what he wants.. 
00:05 < katsmeow-afk> ybit, if a couple people show up at the airport to pickyou up......
00:05 < ybit> ..?
00:07 < ybit> at some point, i don't see how this model is sustainable when you have someone like myself committing stupid changes
00:07 < ybit> 691:om: skdb tutorials
00:07 < ybit> sound more like a wishlist than a bug
00:08 < ybit> s/wishlist/todo
00:10 < fenn> ooh can i be the shifty looking fellow with a caterpillar mustache and patent leather shoes?
00:10 < katsmeow-afk> who taps his feet with a wide stance?
00:11 < CIA-33> skdb: kanzure * r c9a172b /.be/bugs/099b9ca7-eca6-4bc1-a3a8-9cbf1417a7e9/values: more bug reports
00:11 < kanzure> ybit: just be sure to pull before you commit (not before you push)
00:11 < fenn> anyway the branch thing.. if you have a lot of people all committing to the same branch and you hate each other, that's a recipe for disaster; a management problem not a technical problem
00:12 < fenn> you can merge branches later if necessary. if you think your changes are dumb and awful and yet you feel the need to commit to someone else's repo, put it on a branch
00:12 < fenn> cherry picking is more for bug fixes and such
00:13 < kanzure> ybit: technically the bug id for that is just 691, the ":om:" is some attribute info i think
00:18 < fenn> why is the bug id 691?
00:19 < fenn> gah
00:19 < fenn> be is not backward compatible
00:21 < fenn> why didn't you use the version in debian?
00:21 < fenn> wtf
00:21 < fenn> *pout*
00:21 < kanzure> here we go..
00:22 < fenn> can i file a meta bug report?
00:23 < kanzure> only between the hours of 1 and 2 pm
00:23 < fenn> also i'm not sure what the advantages of a bug tracker are over the current todo list
00:24 < fenn> or writing unit tests
00:24 < fenn> oh well. /me resigns to the fate of seeing a bunch of .be/51b1ossadf09gf0klk24kl every fommit
00:24 < fenn> s/fommit/pull/
00:24 < kanzure> fommit :) heh
00:25 < kanzure> blah all these people are dudes: http://www.last.fm/user/kanzure/neighbours
00:26 < kanzure> and they're all from sweden, finland and germany
00:26 < genehacker> that's where the techno is at
00:26 < ybit> yup
00:27 < fenn> the only chicks who dig heavy metal live in seattle
00:27 < genehacker> ugh one of them is a furry
00:28 < fenn> hehe a hot pink mustache furry
00:28 < kanzure> this guy scares the shit out of me: http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/126/1079595.jpg
00:29 < genehacker> is that a song from k-on in your playlist?
00:29 < ybit> http://ybit.ath.cx/skdb/ is where my git repo lies for anyone who wants to watch me fuck it up in a somewhat live viewing
00:29 < genehacker> it is
00:29 < genehacker> I am disappoint
00:29 < fenn> kanzure: that's not very scary
00:30 < ybit> that guy reminds me of a person whom we couldn't figure out if it was a dude or girl.. then we saw boobs.. but we still weren't convinced
00:30 < kanzure> what is k-on?
00:30 < fenn> a time-like virtual particle?
00:31 < genehacker> dear god
00:31 < genehacker> it's an anime that you should avoid
00:31 < fenn> hm i seem to have slipped into a time line in which physicists havent yet discovered kaons..
00:32 < fenn> oh there it is, nevermind
00:32 < kanzure> ybit: please run git update-server-info
00:32 < genehacker> dang it how the heck do I play songs on last.fm
00:32 < genehacker> nvm
00:32 < ybit> kanzure: done
00:32 < genehacker> I get it
00:32 < ybit> katsmeow-afk: thanks for mentioning the minerva reefs
00:32 < genehacker> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuuu
00:33 < genehacker> you listened to the K-on theme
00:33 < katsmeow-afk> <curtsey>
00:33 < genehacker> oh dear
00:33 < kanzure> ybit: doesn't look like you've committed anything
00:33 < katsmeow-afk> there's similar reefs ~100 miles west ofSan Diego
00:33 < katsmeow-afk> well, similar in use, but diff geology
00:34 < kanzure> i don't think last.fm is actually doing any computations here
00:34 < kanzure> it seems to be basically what you've listened to the most
00:34 < kanzure> but if you've listened to a million songs from another category, they don't count for anything
00:34 < kanzure> unless they're from the same artist
00:34 < katsmeow-afk> Begg Rock , Islas San Benito , Cotes Bank, Tanner Bank, are all volcanic
00:34 < kanzure> and this determines who your "neighbors" are
00:35 < genehacker> oh that was when you listened to anime radio
00:35 < genehacker> you're safe
00:35 < katsmeow-afk> Alijos Rocks etc
00:35 < genehacker> heh that creepy dude looks like that guy from dethklok
00:35 < kanzure> squiggles?
00:35 < kanzure> er
00:36 < genehacker> yeah that one
00:36 < kanzure> skiwsgaar skwigelf
00:36 < katsmeow-afk> and if you want a site with more ocean wave energy than you can possibly handle, there's a seamount 60ft under about 20 miles outside the usa eez, south of Alaska
00:36 < kanzure> skwisgaar
00:36 < genehacker> wave energy=FUCKING AWESOME
00:36 < kanzure> hah: http://naturesgraffiti.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/metalocalpyse.jpg
00:36 < genehacker> it's so extractable
00:36 < katsmeow-afk> there's a few tothe west of Vancouver too, but they are "protected"
00:37 < fenn> high altitude kites blow wave power out of the water!!!11
00:37 < genehacker> actually they don't
00:37 < katsmeow-afk> genehacker, 220 miles south of Alaska, we are talking 30ft waves are the norm
00:37 < genehacker> it's just that wavepower isn't everywhere
00:37 < genehacker> seems dangerous
00:38 < katsmeow-afk> i said it was more than you cold handle
00:38 < katsmeow-afk> oh, and it's cold
00:38 < genehacker> the waves
00:38 < fenn> which is cooler: surfing, or wind surfing?
00:38 < genehacker> dang it, I think I experienced some
00:38 < katsmeow-afk> you cold have megawatts of power to keep warm with if you cold keep the wave-energy-collector from falling to bits
00:38 < genehacker> wave power's cheaper than high alt wind at this point
00:39 < fenn> wtf how could it possibly be cheaper
00:39 < genehacker> the rubber snake approach might work
00:39 < fenn> a kit is made of cloth and strings
00:39 < ybit> so what's the itinerary for dec. 3? options are: a.) show me the shop b.) show me something interesting at ut.austin c.) lounge around grubbing on whatever is available or a really sweet restaurant (yo fenn, raw vegan buddy o'pal.. anything you and kanzure care for)... or go over the last option go over the presentation.. or all of it..
00:39 < genehacker> it generates so much
00:39 < genehacker> or it's on par with high altitude wind
00:39 < katsmeow-afk> and, there's a methane leak from the ocean floor off LA, enough i figure for 4 megawatts electrical just by anchoring a hood over the seep and attaching a hose tothe surface
00:39 < ybit> s/the last option//
00:39 < genehacker> heh
00:40 < genehacker> you could also get some from the petroleum seeps
00:40 < genehacker> where petroleum naturally seeps to the surface
00:40 < katsmeow-afk> or sunken ships, some have been slowly leaking since ww2
00:40 < ybit> the only guy who teaches systema ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systema ) is in l.a. btw
00:40 < genehacker> and feeds whole underwater ecosystems
00:40 < fenn> i vote for fenn sleeping in then waking up at the last minute and packing madly
00:40 < ybit> the only who who i can find that teaches in the u.s.
00:41 < ybit> +guy
00:41 < genehacker> whole ecosystems powered by petroleum
00:41  * katsmeow-afk nods
00:42 < genehacker> dammit why do we have to be shooting carbon into the atmosphere
00:42 < genehacker> why can't we just make it into stuff
00:42 < katsmeow-afk> i wonder what a floating barge off LA could do with 4 megawatts
00:42 < genehacker> power a 4 megawatt pirate radio
00:42 < genehacker> power a 4 megawatt supercomputer
00:43 < katsmeow-afk> genehacker, same reason the humans here burn so much garbage the air here smells like a medical plastics incinerator
00:43 < fenn> drive itself somewhere better than LA
00:43 < genehacker> where?
00:43 < katsmeow-afk> yea, where?
00:43 < genehacker> then they are burning them inefficiently
00:44 < katsmeow-afk> of course they are, it's open piles on the ground, or burn barrels with no vents for air to make actual  "burning" occur
00:44 < genehacker> that's bad
00:44 < genehacker> that'
00:45 < fenn> i wonder why kite-based sailboats never got huge in the 1700's
00:45 < genehacker> why?
00:45 < katsmeow-afk> as long as the populace is of this caliber, there's o way to stop the powerco burning coal to pump it in as much as they want
00:45 < genehacker> control systems, lack of cheap strong lightweight fabric, inertia
00:45 < katsmeow-afk> fenn, commercia schedules and the cost of hiring a sailing crew that contribues best 30% of your propulsion
00:45 < genehacker> burning plastic is how you make nasty dioxins
00:45 < fenn> sailor = control system, already had cheap strong canvas, which is light enough
00:46 < katsmeow-afk> genehacker, I KNOW
00:46 < katsmeow-afk> DAMNED caps lok
00:46 < genehacker> it's ok
00:46 < katsmeow-afk> i gotta pop all those extra keys of all these new keybds 
00:46 < fenn> one huge kite has got to be easier to deal with than those ridiculous masts and fifty little sails everywhere
00:47 < genehacker> what do you do about the kite during a storm?
00:47 < katsmeow-afk> until you haveto fish it out of the water
00:47 < fenn> naw it has little boats as landing gear
00:47 < genehacker> anyway, I sure your average sailor of back then isn't going to trust a kite
00:48 < katsmeow-afk> "the sail's taken leave of th emast, cap'n!"
00:48 < genehacker> masts work pretty well
00:49 < genehacker> have you ever been sailing fenn?
00:49 < katsmeow-afk> nppe, never sailed a fenn
00:49 < katsmeow-afk> oops
00:49 < ybit> http://google.com/trends?q=open+hardware&ctab=1680238952&geo=all&date=all
00:50 < ybit> http://google.com/trends?q=open+source+hardware%2C+open+hardware&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
00:50  * katsmeow-afk sailed lil Scorpions and Sunfish in the mid 1970's
00:50 < katsmeow-afk> on the ocean
00:51 < katsmeow-afk> out of sight of land, even
00:51 < katsmeow-afk> "well, the sun is going down, and that's west, that's land, i think i'llfollow it,, fast"
00:51 < ybit> odd, linux has a downward slope as well: http://google.com/trends?q=linux&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0
00:52 < ybit> i don't know what to take from that when we know that the adoption of gnu linux is increasing
00:53 < genehacker> never sailed?
00:53 < fenn> fenns are bad places to sail.. lots of muck and tangly stuff
00:54 < genehacker> last.fm sucks
00:55 < genehacker> it doesn't have any of the obscure music I listen to
00:55 < fenn> why do you need last.fm if you listen to obscure music
00:55 < genehacker> I'm playing around with it
00:56 < fenn> just set your music player to shuffle
00:56 < genehacker> on last.fm?
00:57 < fenn> no, the one you have previously stocked with your obscure music
00:57  * katsmeow-afk has decided to go get pizza for tomorrow, and chocolate, eggnog, PB&J , since it's 1am and there's likely parking places
00:57 < genehacker> I CAN'T STAND THE RANDOMNESS
00:57 < genehacker> errr... I don't know how to torrent safely
00:57 < fenn> katsmeow-afk: i endorse your decision
00:58 < fenn> do me a favor and stand around in the aisle staring at nothing for 20 minutes
00:58 < genehacker> why?
00:58 < fenn> optionally, lay on the floor and make dust angels
00:58 < fenn> because it's 1 am and i can do whatever i want
00:59 < genehacker> pics or it didn't happen
00:59 < fenn> it didnt happen
00:59 < genehacker> ok
01:00  * fenn wonders if he feels like riding 3 miles in the dark to see if les is in the shop so i can get my components
01:01 < genehacker> why ride in the dark when you can make it not dark with some horrendously bright 1 watt LEDs
01:01 < fenn> because my horrendously bright 1 watt LEDs are in the shop
01:01 < genehacker> are they luxeon LEDs?
01:01 < fenn> i forget. maybe
01:02 < genehacker> are they white or are you going with green-blue because that's what humans see best
01:03 < fenn> white of course
01:03 < fenn> green-blue is just obnoxious.. washes out your night vision
01:03 < kanzure> i have a horrendously large flashlight somewhere around here
01:04 < genehacker> but it let's you see so much more
01:04 < genehacker> halogen or something?
01:04 < fenn> for beating people with mostly
01:04 < genehacker> or is it a nuclear fusion incandescent illuminator
01:05 < fenn> i have a pocket flashlight that is 5-10x brighter than that
01:06 < genehacker> components for what?
01:06 < fenn> wearable
01:06 < genehacker> the beagleboard case?
01:06 < fenn> and so i dont have to chop up my only keyboard
01:07 < genehacker> don't you have keyboard pants?
01:07 < genehacker> or is that what you are making?
01:07 < fenn> i need to get my batteries and charger and soldering iron and probably a zillion things which i am never going to remember
01:08 < fenn> havent figured out what to do for the beagleboard case yet
01:08 < genehacker> if you have access to the UT soldering lab...
01:08 < fenn> i'm not going to a 'soldering lab'
01:08 < fenn> you kids are so spoiled you dont even know what to do
01:09  * fenn grumbles
01:09 < genehacker> I tried tinning it but the solder just won't stick
01:09 < genehacker> you could cast it out of aluminum
01:10 < fenn> just stop while you're ahead ok?
01:10 < genehacker> ok
01:10  * genehacker sleeps
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01:52 < kanzure> some really peculiar comments here: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9yek3/im_27_have_a_rare_condition_that_is_100_treatable/
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02:16 < fenn> i wish you'd stop forwarding replab to OM
02:25 < fenn> that guy needs some DIYBIO
02:27 < fenn> or go to mexico, i guess
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02:46 < fenn> priceless http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/9yek3/im_27_have_a_rare_condition_that_is_100_treatable/c0f0vl8
02:48 < fenn> the HPLC is probably overkill
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10:16 < kanzure> hm how should the "history", archive, etc. views work? in terms of urls
10:16 < kanzure> back when i was doing websites years ago, making crappy urls was the norm :)
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15:42 < QuantumG> http://mi.eng.cam.ac.uk/~qp202/my_papers/BMVC09/
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15:46 < kanzure> for meshes?
15:47 < QuantumG> crappy meshes by the looks of it
15:47 < kanzure> meh
15:47 < kanzure> neat but 
15:47 < kanzure> yeah..
15:47 < QuantumG> automatic and online is pretty cool though
15:47 < QuantumG> they need to work on scene decomposition next
15:48 < kanzure> i think this is just one guy
15:48 < kanzure> http://mi.eng.cam.ac.uk/~qp202/
15:48 < kanzure> "In a few months time when code porting (to new library versions) is complete, a Linux-based demo of ProFORMA should be released."
15:48 < QuantumG> ya, no doubt it's all in matlab
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18:49 < fenn> this is really cool (not the documentary) 
18:49 < fenn> http://www.slowdancingfilms.com/media_en.php
18:50 < fenn> i would love to get a 3D version of that
18:51 < fenn> either just stereoscopic or full on bullet time
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19:11 < genehacker> what torrent client is best?
19:14 < fenn> that's awful subjective
19:14 < fenn> utorrent, ktorrent, azureus (piggy)
19:15 < genehacker> which one is "safest"
19:18 < genehacker> say I lived in dystopian britain where if they detect you using bittorrent you disappear
19:18 < genehacker> *dystopian future britain
19:19 < QuantumG> almost all of them support encrypted torrents now
19:19 < genehacker> ok
19:19 < QuantumG> for some reason most of them don't have it on by default though
19:19 < QuantumG> no idea why
19:30 < fenn> it's not that it's not on by default, but it also allows unencrypted connections
19:41 < genehacker> port forwarding is only important for speed right
19:47 < fenn> "Search  Man Marries Anime Game Character
19:47 < fenn> http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=2663
19:47  * fenn fails at paste-fu
19:49 < genehacker> the scary thing is that this isn't the first time this has happened either
19:50 < genehacker> http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/facts/helicopter.html
19:50 < genehacker> relevent for UAV delivery
19:51 < genehacker> can't find the picture that explains it
19:51 < genehacker> think I have it though
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19:52 < genehacker> let me find the pictures
19:53 < fenn> like a reverse lasso
19:54 < katsmeow-afk> while the cable winds up 1000 times, so the human cargo is spun to death as they are winched up to the plane
19:54 < genehacker> I don't want to deliver humans this way
19:55 < genehacker> the picture explains a lot
19:56 < genehacker> oh dear there's a gibson novel about what a virtual japanese singer that people want to marry?
19:57 < fenn> i never read it
19:57 < genehacker> and now we have a virtual japanese singer...
19:58 < katsmeow-afk> shades of Simone the movie about the virtual actor
19:58 < fenn> i hope you're not talking about the vocaloids
19:59 < katsmeow-afk> bs : Trivailo's cable system could help take the pressure off, since it would allow almost any large aircraft to collect water and spray it from the air or deliver it to remote sites without the need to land. 
19:59 < fenn> hatsune miku and friends
19:59 < katsmeow-afk> the "cable", the hose, wold change weight etc drastically as it filled with water, and the hose iteslf wold be so long you'd be unable to suckwater up thru it
19:59 < genehacker> call them by their proper name, fancy voice synthesis software
20:00 < genehacker> I think they want to use buckets
20:00 < katsmeow-afk> o
20:00 < katsmeow-afk> nevermnd
20:00 < genehacker> dammit why does newscientist have to suck
20:00 < fenn> it's kind of amazing how bad the vocaloids sound, compared to even basic TTS software
20:00 < genehacker> the cable system becomes unstable if you drop the thing the cabl is holding
20:01 < genehacker> TTS software?
20:01 < fenn> text to speech
20:01 < fenn> like festival
20:02 < QuantumG> virtual light.. one of gibson's more horrid books
20:02 < QuantumG> not that I've enjoyed any of them since neuromancer
20:02 < QuantumG> fluke
20:03 < genehacker> heh I'd like to find the TTS software they used for half-life so I can make my computer sound awesome
20:03 < fenn> "This competition will pit participants against each other, piloting custom designed 1/24th scale robots- armed with Airsoft weapon systems and higher end weapons such as micro rockets, flame throwers and CO2 projectile weapon systems."
20:03 < genehacker> the mecha thingy?
20:05 < kanzure> http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Crowd_Funding
20:05 < kanzure> why does it matter that it's "from ben lipkowitz"
20:05 < kanzure> shame on you
20:05  * fenn looks
20:06 < kanzure> we can read commit logs, thank you very much
20:06 < fenn> because marcin copied it from an email i sent
20:06 < kanzure> WikiSysop?
20:07 < fenn> i think that's the default admin username
20:07 < kanzure> not when i installed mediawiki :/
20:07 < fenn> The new currency will be issued in three convenient denominations, ranging from 10,000 positrons to 1,000,000 positrons. The anti-money will be backed by antimatter stored in the bank's own vaults. 
20:07 < kanzure> gustavo got back to me today about booleano
20:08 < kanzure> there's a depends_on() function apparently
20:08 < kanzure> so you have to say depends_on(A) && depends_on(B) or something
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20:13 < fenn> i dont get what this brain implant chip has to do with fMRI
20:15 < katsmeow-afk> the mri erases it, praps
20:20 < genehacker> what brain implant?
20:21 < genehacker> MRI ease installation
20:21 < katsmeow-afk> the 8087 i have always wanted
20:21 < genehacker> implants need to be MRI safe
20:22 < QuantumG> if you could fully utilize an 8087 wired into your brain I expect it would actually be impressive
20:24 < katsmeow-afk> that's why i aimed low, by now, the 8087 should run a lifetime on an AG-13 cell, yet be quite fast enough
20:25 < QuantumG> how about that fully utilize part?  
20:25 < katsmeow-afk> if i cannot use it, i don't want it
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20:25 < katsmeow-afk> granted, i do not expect to say the numbers flowing in and out of it in it's real time
20:25 < QuantumG> ya, I meant, how do you expect to
20:27 < katsmeow-afk> but i wold mostly expect it to have solved the problem by the time the person talking tome stopped and shut his mouth, theni could provide the answer
20:27 < QuantumG> I can imagine that there is known techniques for determining what number a subject is thinking of.. but is there any known techniques for presenting one to the subject?
20:27 < katsmeow-afk> yeas, speech, writing, braille
20:27 < QuantumG> :)
20:27 < QuantumG> was kinda expecting direct presentation
20:28 < katsmeow-afk> o
20:28 < katsmeow-afk> no, it wold haveto go thru the wearer's wetware
20:28 < katsmeow-afk> and each wold be different
20:28 < QuantumG> so you think of root 2 and can experience that number in its floating point goodness
20:28 < katsmeow-afk> one hopes
20:29 < katsmeow-afk> just how, i dunno
20:29 < katsmeow-afk> interfaces have been done to hearing and sight, but i dunno those are good enough,,maybe
20:29 < QuantumG> have some experience of the floating point stack depth would be interesting too
20:30 < katsmeow-afk> having each digit apear in my sight as a 9x16 dot matrix might not be enjoyable
20:30 < katsmeow-afk> "but doc, it's pi! it won't STOP!"
20:30 < genehacker> you might be able to adapt...
20:30 < QuantumG> I think neural implants that interface with senses are missing the point
20:31 < katsmeow-afk> Quantum , i sorta do too, butthat's pushing state of the art already
20:33 < QuantumG> is it?  I ask because I don't really follow it.  I see occasional articles about sensing "what you're thinking about" and rarely see anything about restimulating those states
20:33 < QuantumG> and yeah, numbers are a common one
20:34 < katsmeow-afk> fmri can call out topics, like hate, but not what part of the table you hate
20:34 < katsmeow-afk> afaik, it's not down to cellular level yet
20:35 < katsmeow-afk> idk why i am starting every sentence with a abbr or ackronym
20:36 < katsmeow-afk> bbl
20:37 < QuantumG> assume you've seen this article: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/mf_optigenetics/all/1
20:37 < genehacker> yup
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21:02 < fenn> thanks for linking to that article QuantumG 
21:04 < fenn> reminds me of 'reasons to be cheerful' by egan (which is a great pun btw)
21:10 < kanzure> fenn: haven't i been showing you optogenetics papers for months now?
21:10 < kanzure> optigenetics, whatever
21:10 < kanzure> hell i even met ed :(
21:11 < fenn> yes i know, but i had no idea they were already doing experiments with mice and monkeys
21:11 < fenn> thought it was just in vitro
21:11 < kanzure> nooo
21:11 < fenn> also didn't know it was location-specific (gene therapy not germline recombinant)
21:12 < kanzure> what the FUCK
21:12 < kanzure> Bryan Bishop wrote:
21:12 < kanzure> > I phoned up the bildr guy. He doesn't have any code, he's a "Design
21:12 < kanzure> > Student" (read: not engineering design). You're better off going with
21:12 < kanzure> > what we've done homebrew.
21:12 < kanzure> How alarmingly arrogant.
21:12 < kanzure> The stuff that's been done is nothing near being a design library. The
21:12 < kanzure> bildr guy is getting stuff done.
21:12 < kanzure> kj;kfa;kfa;kfajfa;;kjfa;kjfa;kjfa
21:12 < fenn> heh what has he gotten done
21:12 < kanzure> graphics
21:13 < kanzure> this is Smári
21:13 < kanzure> this makes me cry
21:13 < fenn> i guess smari does hate you after all
21:13 < kanzure> i don't even know what to say
21:14 < fenn> i dont understand why we arent working with the bildr guy (or smari for that matter)
21:14 < kanzure> smari hates us remember?
21:14 < kanzure> and the bildr guy never got back with us
21:14 < kanzure> even after ybit emailed him too (this was after i phoned him up- he was very enthusiastic)
21:15 < kanzure> i don't know what to say
21:15 < fenn> bildr is just one page with javascript swoopytext right?
21:16 < kanzure> and a video
21:17 < fenn> god i hate this fucking webpage already
21:17 < kanzure> what should i say
21:17 < fenn> nevermind about working with the bildr guy :P
21:17 < kanzure> i want to throw a pile of shit at smari
21:23 < kanzure> i'll hold off on a reply email until i get some suggestions
21:24 < fenn> flame wars are generally a bad idea
21:25 < kanzure> what do i do
21:25 < kanzure> people have already taken sides (with 
21:25 < fenn> your witty sarcastic reply will end up making you look like a fool, just say nothing
21:26 < kanzure> but he's *wrong*
21:26 < kanzure> someone is wrong on the internet!
21:26 < kanzure> http://xkcd.com/386/
21:26 < fenn> is this a private email?
21:26 < kanzure> no
21:26 < kanzure> it's on the replab list
21:27 < kanzure> he claims i am on a "high horse"
21:28 < kanzure> maybe i suck, but that's no reason not to ignore skdb
21:28 < kanzure> er
21:28 < kanzure> no reason to ignore
21:29 < CIA-33> skdb: kanzure * r 7c5d86b /web/web.py: change url scheme to allow /package/lego/data.yaml/:edit
21:30 < fenn> why :edit?
21:37 < kanzure> namespace issues
21:37 < kanzure> nobody starts a filename with ":" :)
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22:51 < QuantumG> I'm sure the GNUArch dipshits gave it a go
23:29 < kanzure> fenn: do registered users get to modify branch master? or is branch master super-locked down?
23:32 < fenn> i dunno
23:33 < fenn> it's too early for access control stuff
23:33 < kanzure> uh no it's not
23:33 < kanzure> i was writing the code
23:33 < kanzure> it's a good idea to nail it down /before/ writing the code
23:34 < fenn> you know what an access control list is right?
23:34 < kanzure> is it what it says it is?
23:34 < kanzure> or do you mean the linux chmod model
23:34 < fenn> no, unix permissions suck
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23:46 < kanzure> hey jasonwohlfahrt 
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23:58 < thehouse> kool